This thread is for all of us Verizon guys who are looking to buy the SGS3. So far the info that is out is that the Pre-order is starting on the 6th of June at 7am EDT, source can be found HERE. It will be $199 for the 16gb and $249 for the 32gb version. There should be the white verzion and the pebble blue version of it as well. So far these are the specs look to be the same as the international version of the SGS3 except that it has the S4 processor and 2gb of ram instead of 1gb. Here is a LINK to some leaked pic's of the Verizon SGS3.
This thread is for just us Verizon guys to chat about who's buying one, comparing them to other Verizon or competitors phones, new's updates on the phone and much more. Also, this thread should help cut down on the random Verizon wireless threads in hopes that all info can be in this thread and not into many posts in the SGS3 section. That will help out other users when they are trying to find out info about this phone. They will not have to go to many different threads to find info about the phone. Hopefully soon we will have a dedicated section just for our version of this phone! Please keep this thread on topic
OK, so if you have a unlimited data plan you MUST pre-order prior to the 28th of June to keep it. Any pre-order or phone purchased after the 28th will be put on a shared family plan if you have multiple lines. There is about 500+ posts within this thread about it. So please read this and let's move on from this topic please. It's been beaten to death already. Also, enough with the "I talked to a rep here" or "I chatted with a rep" about the same issue. Customer reps in general are clueless to many things
- It will ship between the 9th-11th probably depending on when you preordered.
- If you preorder it prior to the 28th you will keep your unlimited data plan. Anything after that, you will have to pay full price for your phone if you want to retain your unlimited plan.
- If you are an existing customer, you can choose to keep your current plan or upgrade to the family shared plans. Depending on your needs.
- July 10th, the SGS3 will be available in store. 16gb only: Droid-life.com
- New customers and anyone adding a line only plan option will be the Shared plan if you have a family account.
- Here is a copy of VZW Shared plans that were leaked: Box.com
- If it ship's early, that would be great.
- Here is an great article explaining the benefits of why having the S4 and 2gb of ram is better in some ways than a quad-core and 1gb of ram: Tmonews.com
- Pre-Order your SGS3 from VZW's website now!!!: VZW Pre-Order Page
- Best Buy is already taking Pre-orders. Just walk in and preorder it and you should be set. They have a 14 day return, 30 day exchange policy on the phone: Phandroid.com
- Rumor has it that it will ship on the 6th or the 9th of July. Here is an article about it: Smartkeitai.com
- Supposed to come out with a software update to allow global roaming support: PhoneArena.com
- If you are wondering about the camera quality, check out this thread: Camera Pics from the International S3 taken by users
- For those who are worried about losing your unlimited data plan when upgrading to the SGS3 check this article out: Starkinsider.com
- Apple is trying to block the SGS3 just like they did the HTC One Series: Wirelessandmobilenews.com
- Samsung claims that Apple's request to stop the phone will not hinder the launch of it in North America: Huffingtonpost.com
- Apparently VZW SGS3 will not have the 50gb Dropbox account like everyone else will: Droid-life.com and Dropbox.com
- Court has ruled that the SGS3 will not be blocked by Apple and will resume it sales: Droid-Life.com
- Costco Is Pre-Ordering it as well. See this post for links: XDA Post
- Here is a video review of the SGS3 LTE Version:
All signs are pointing to a June 21 release. Has anyone pre-ordered a phone from verizon? this is the first phone that Ive pre-ordered. How does it work? Do they ship the phone the day of release or can you pick it up in store? thanks
I'm hoping Best Buy gets this right out of the gate. I've got a 50 dollar credit with them. The guy at the store told me today that they hadn't heard anything yet. So stoked for this. Now lets just hope I can keep unlimited data!
So glad its coming out soon, and not in October.
Gonna pre order as soon as I can. Praying I can keep my unlimited data because 4G coverage is faster than my wifi. My Inc2 has been a good phone but it's time for a change!
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All signs are pointing to a June 21 release. Has anyone pre-ordered a phone from verizon? this is the first phone that Ive pre-ordered. How does it work? Do they ship the phone the day of release or can you pick it up in store? thanks
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i called today because I just came eligible for an upgrade, he said you simply call and request one but they don't actually process and bill your account until they ship them out. I didn't ask about picking up in store, he said they ship them out as if that's the only way it works.
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Gonna pre order as soon as I can. Praying I can keep my unlimited data because 4G coverage is faster than my wifi. My Inc2 has been a good phone but it's time for a change!
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and yes, anyone with 3G or 4G unlimited grandfathered data can keep it still
however with one caveat...he said if you preorder it 6-6-12 and by some rare chance they update their upgrade/data policy as has been rumored to be happening this summer, and it happens before the phones ship on 6-21 (my words not his, he didn't confirm ship date), then you are subject to the new terms.....at the time they bill and ship it.....not at the time you pre-ordered it
talk about the most diabolical thing they could do, get all the left over unlimited 4G data users in the queue and then flip the switch on the shared data a few days before the 21st......oh boy would that not go well....
Called target today to ask if they get phones same day as retail stores . Guy said it depends, so I asked about gs3, waiting for him to skate around it but he said let me check the sheet and said they will have it ...took my name and # and said he'd have the manager call me Wednesday to pre order.
This is T-Mobile BTW....Anyone seen anything about T-Mobile price? I hope its 199...I have a $100 gift card there at target.
Different target stores do different providers..but looks like they'll have stock and usually have better prices.
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i called today because I just came eligible for an upgrade, he said you simply call and request one but they don't actually process and bill your account until they ship them out. I didn't ask about picking up in store, he said they ship them out as if that's the only way it works.
and yes, anyone with 3G or 4G unlimited grandfathered data can keep it still
however with one caveat...he said if you preorder it 6-6-12 and by some rare chance they update their upgrade/data policy as has been rumored to be happening this summer, and it happens before the phones ship on 6-21 (my words not his, he didn't confirm ship date), then you are subject to the new terms.....at the time they bill and ship it.....not at the time you pre-ordered it
talk about the most diabolical thing they could do, get all the left over unlimited 4G data users in the queue and then flip the switch on the shared data a few days before the 21st......oh boy would that not go well....
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Everyone cross your fingers they don't pull a fast one and change their data plan before it comes out and screw those who pre order!
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Droid-Life.com has an article up saying they confirmed with Vzw PR that if you preorder the device you will get to keep your unlimited plan regardless of release date.
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Droid-Life.com has an article up saying they confirmed with Vzw PR that if you preorder the device you will get to keep your unlimited plan regardless of release date.
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please link because that is exactly the opposite of what I was told. and from my experience, you agree to the terms on the day you make the transaction, which is essentially your acceptance of the new contract terms.....you aren't bound by any terms on a simple request for a pre-order. I'm not claiming to know, but I can tell you from experience, they are very very adamant about that. The moment you sign a receipt or accept a device, etc...is the very mechanism they use to document your new contract terms. I know from experience. It doesn't matter what they said, all that matters is what it was the moment you hit the button to accept.
http://www.droid-life.com/2012/06/0...erizon-and-you-keep-your-unlimited-data-plan/
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http://www.droid-life.com/2012/06/0...erizon-and-you-keep-your-unlimited-data-plan/
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yeah I found it and I don't believe it. I think the rep spoke out of turn. I think the truth of it is whatever it is on the day you agree to the terms is what they will hold you to. (which would happen on the day they bill and ship it, not the day you verbally ask to get in line)
Damn this whole ordeal is stressing me out. Maybe I can sign on early if I go preorder in store... Seemingly not though because Verizon seems to tell their reps to pretend to know nothing of what is going on. Whether that is true or not, I am not sure..
So, if there is actually a risk of losing unlimited data going the preorder route, here is a thought: Get an iPhone 4S on contract ASAP; keep your $30 unlimited plan; promptly sell the unused iPhone; bank the $350 profit from the sale of the iPhone; use the $350 to offset the cost of a GS3 off contract - maybe even get the RAZR HD later on if that's your preference. It's basically a wash - maybe a little extra work, but worth it if it means another 2 or 3 years of unlimited data. That's all we really need - hopefully by then, the other carriers will have respectable LTE networks.
Being on Sprint, I can say that the hope for lte is rather small...they're looking at probably mid-2013 at the earliest for the majority of the country. Granted that's mostly speculation, but pretty dismal none the less. My contract is up in August but I'm hoping to jump ship to VZW in July...just really bummed the unlimited data isn't offered anymore.
EDIT: just noticed the 2-3 year time frame you stated. If Sprint can keep the unlimited data after the upgrade, they stand to be the top provider with lte speeds and unlimited data. I guess time will only tell huh?
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Just preorder it and if they change the plans and say that you can't stay where you are at, cancel your preorder.
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Just preorder it and if they change the plans and say that you can't stay where you are at, cancel your preorder.
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True - but it sure would suck to loose the subsidy because I waited too long. I've been sitting on an upgrade since November. Hopefully, VZW will provide some warning. As I recall, they gave a pretty reasonable warning period last summer when they started the tiered plans.
No use speculating. Whatever happens, happens. Truthfully, I have grown so dependent on my phone over the last few years, I'm at a point where shelling out $550 for a new device just doesn't seem nearly as crazy as it used to.
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Being on Sprint, I can say that the hope for lte is rather small...they're looking at probably mid-2013 at the earliest for the majority of the country. Granted that's mostly speculation, but pretty dismal none the less. My contract is up in August but I'm hoping to jump ship to VZW in July...just really bummed the unlimited data isn't offered anymore.
EDIT: just noticed the 2-3 year time frame you stated. If Sprint can keep the unlimited data after the upgrade, they stand to be the top provider with lte speeds and unlimited data. I guess time will only tell huh?
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My wife and I ditched Sprint when the GNex came out. I looked back at what I paid to "upgrade" after to years to the Instinct and then to the EVO 4G after another 2 years, and it was cheaper to get two new phones from Verizon and pay ETF to Sprint than to "upgrade" with them. All that and our town of 150,000 didn't get 3G with them until 2010, and it would slow down to unusable at all times other than the middle of the night. Verizon just rolled out LTE here over the weekend. I miss unlimited data, and Sprint is cheaper than the other contract carriers, but since data never really worked here, it was worth it for us to jump ship.
Here's what I have decided. I am going to preorder one on each of my lines. Verizon said they would give plenty of warning for when they will change the tiers. Make the preorder and I have it. If they do it I am out. I don't think they will if they are really shooting for the same June release as everyone else. It just is not that much time. If everything goes well and I get the devices, I will sell one on ebay the day I get it, give my wife one of my backup phones to get her on 4g and wait for the next iPhone to give her later this year.
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My wife and I ditched Sprint when the GNex came out. I looked back at what I paid to "upgrade" after to years to the Instinct and then to the EVO 4G after another 2 years, and it was cheaper to get two new phones from Verizon and pay ETF to Sprint than to "upgrade" with them. All that and our town of 150,000 didn't get 3G with them until 2010, and it would slow down to unusable at all times other than the middle of the night. Verizon just rolled out LTE here over the weekend. I miss unlimited data, and Sprint is cheaper than the other contract carriers, but since data never really worked here, it was worth it for us to jump ship.
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Yeah, I figure Sprint can do unlimited data cause their speeds are so slow and Wimax is so spotty that they're not really providing that much data to users...a VZW rep told me about their buy back program and I plan on switching lines with my wife and using her evo design to cover what's left of my etf so I can actually have good data speed, even if I'm limited to 4GB usage. I figure that's better than having a 4G device that can't be fully used y'know?
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With the Arrive coming out on Sprint soon, and the Trophy coming to Verizon, allegedly on the 24th, I'm wondering if it will be possible to get an Arrive to work on Verizon? Verizon's coverage in my area is far better than Sprint's, but I don't want the bottom of the barrel WP7 device, as I've heard the Trophy called. I have used the Mogul, the Touch Pro, and now the Touch Pro 2, and really like having that slide-out keyboard.
Any idea if getting Arrive to work on Verizon, or am I doomed to deal with Trophy?
Thanks,
Rich
No idea. The only WP7 device I've heard of for Verizon is the Trophy, like you stated.
You can get the Arrive on Sprint and roam on Verizon!
I am hoping that a few more WP7 devices are announced for both carriers at CTIA (March 22-24).
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No idea. The only WP7 device I've heard of for Verizon is the Trophy, like you stated.
You can get the Arrive on Sprint and roam on Verizon!
I am hoping that a few more WP7 devices are announced for both carriers at CTIA (March 22-24).
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Sprint has agreements with Verizon, when you roam on Sprint it is through Verizon's network and there is no extra charge.
You could get on the Sprint Everything Plus Data plan for $59.99, and pay another $10 for the premium data plan, and pay $69.99 for a new HTC Arrive.
Really.... :/
I had a Sprint Mogul when I moved to GA two years ago. The reception was PATHETIC. You used to see the commercials where someone would say something then drop the call, and it was totally awkward? Well, that happened to me. I was talking to a dear friend, and said, "I love you, Patty", and the call dropped, and I WOULD have continued, "you're one of the dearest friends I have." Of course she didn't hear the last part. I drove up and down the road desperately seeking a bar. JUST ONE BAR! I switched to Verizon and that problem went away.
So, I guess the question I have now is whether the switch to CDMA on Sprint is that recent? I wasn't aware that I could use a Sprint phone on a Verizon network, and due to my past experience I didn't check. If the answer is yes, then I believe I will be cancelling my Verizon contract when the Arrive arrives!
Hmmm... Only issue is that my VZW plan is unlimited data - TRULY unlimited - because I had it on an employee plan when I got it (and I'm not an employee of that company anymore). Is Sprint's plan TRULY unlimited?
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Really.... :/
I had a Sprint Mogul when I moved to GA two years ago. The reception was PATHETIC. You used to see the commercials where someone would say something then drop the call, and it was totally awkward? Well, that happened to me. I was talking to a dear friend, and said, "I love you, Patty", and the call dropped, and I WOULD have continued, "you're one of the dearest friends I have." Of course she didn't hear the last part. I drove up and down the road desperately seeking a bar. JUST ONE BAR! I switched to Verizon and that problem went away.
So, I guess the question I have now is whether the switch to CDMA on Sprint is that recent? I wasn't aware that I could use a Sprint phone on a Verizon network, and due to my past experience I didn't check. If the answer is yes, then I believe I will be cancelling my Verizon contract when the Arrive arrives!
Hmmm... Only issue is that my VZW plan is unlimited data - TRULY unlimited - because I had it on an employee plan when I got it (and I'm not an employee of that company anymore). Is Sprint's plan TRULY unlimited?
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Sprint unlimited really is unlimited, but if you read the fine print they reserve the right to terminate you if you get retarded on it, just like any other carrier. Check with a local Sprint store about the coverage/roaming issue. Most plans on Sprint now include free roaming nationwide, and I can't think of what other major carrier in the US has CDMA other than Verizon.
Don't! sign up for a plan through the store, you need to do it online through the Everythign Plus referral, and get the plan for $10 less than doing it in store. So you can bet a HTC Arrive and pay $59.99+$10 premium data = $69.99 for 500 anytime minutes to landlines, and unlimited any mobile any time, unlimited data, pictures, text, nights starting at 7pm, etc. etc. etc.
http://www.sprint.com/everythingplus
You will need a Sprint employee email address/pin. This is where Russ McGuire comes into play, he is Vice President of Strategy for Sprint. On his blog he invites everyone for the sprint offer.
http://mcguireslaw.com/
(under about on the right hand side he has his email address and pin for everyone to use freely/Legitimately)
Addendum: their fine print says they can terminate/stop service if you use too much data outside their network etc, so the roaming thing would apply here. Wouldn't hurt to check out if their coverage has improved in your area.
Very interesting - thanks so much for the info! I guess now I'm tossing up the pros and cons of going with that or going through wirefly and getting the phone for $50 - especially since my wife will get an arrive if it is $50, but she wont' get it if we have to pay $200 (after rebate). I'm looking at it like this:
From Wirefly:
2 phones $100
monthly rate $149
From Sprint:
1 phone $200 (plus whatever phone my wife ends up getting)
monthly rate $129
So, for $20 a month over 2 years, I would save a total of $480. At a $150 savings for each Arrive buying through wirefly, that takes the comparable savings down to 180. Given that my wife won't get an Arrive if we have to pay full price now (since we'll also have to pay early term fee for our current Verizon contract), She would probably go with a free phone, and I'd save more money, but she wouldn't have WP7 (which I want her to have).
You've given me much food for thought. Right now I'd say we're probably going to end up going with Wirefly, but I'm going to sit on the decision for a couple days to decide. Thank you.
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Very interesting - thanks so much for the info! I guess now I'm tossing up the pros and cons of going with that or going through wirefly and getting the phone for $50 - especially since my wife will get an arrive if it is $50, but she wont' get it if we have to pay $200 (after rebate). I'm looking at it like this:
From Wirefly:
2 phones $100
monthly rate $149
From Sprint:
1 phone $200 (plus whatever phone my wife ends up getting)
monthly rate $129
So, for $20 a month over 2 years, I would save a total of $480. At a $150 savings for each Arrive buying through wirefly, that takes the comparable savings down to 180. Given that my wife won't get an Arrive if we have to pay full price now (since we'll also have to pay early term fee for our current Verizon contract), She would probably go with a free phone, and I'd save more money, but she wouldn't have WP7 (which I want her to have).
You've given me much food for thought. Right now I'd say we're probably going to end up going with Wirefly, but I'm going to sit on the decision for a couple days to decide. Thank you.
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Let me further add to your thoughts, wirefly still may not be the best option.
If you sign up with Sprint and port your current number over to them from another carrier they will give you $125 credit for each smartphone.
http://www.sprint.com/landings/portcredit/
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Move your number to Sprint. Get $125.For a limited time only, activate a new Sprint smartphone and save.Just bring your number from another carrier to Sprint and activate a smartphone, like the Samsung Epic™ 4G, on a new line and we'll give you a $125 service credit. Not ready for a smartphone? We'll give you a $50 service credit when you port your number from another carrier and activate one of our other fabulous phones. Either way, you win.
$125 service credit per line for each smartphone
$50 service credit per line for other phones
How to get your service credit:
Find the perfect phone. Shop online now.
Transfer your eligible number to Sprint by 4/16/2011. Doing this online is easy – we'll ask you for your number when you checkout.
Within 72 hours of activating your phone and transferring your number from another carrier, register for the credit.
That's it! You can expect to see your service credit as a lump sum within the adjustment section of your invoice. The service credit will show up on the first or second invoice after you have been a Sprint customer for 60 days. It will be labeled as "Valued Customer Service Credit."
Visit this page if you have any questions about the status of your service credit and select “Where’s my credit?” Remember, the credit will not appear on your invoice until at least 60 days after activation.
Requires two-year Agreement.
This offer is available online, via Telesales and in participating Sprint Stores. Purchases from other retailers are not eligible for this credit.
Offer ends 4/16/2011. Available for consumer and individual-liable lines only. Requires port in from an active wireless line and mobile number that comes through the port process. Request for service credit must be made at www.sprint.com/switchoffer within 72 hours from the port in activation date or credit will be declined. New line must remain active with Sprint for 61 days to receive service credit. Smartphones are Blackberry, Android, Windows Mobile, Palm and Instinct Family of devices. All other phones are considered feature phones. Smartphones require activation on an Everything Plan with data with Premium Data add-on charge. Upgrades, replacements, and ports made between Sprint entities or providers associated with Sprint are excluded (i.e. Virgin Mobile USA, Boost Mobile, Common Cents Mobile and Assurance). Offers not available in all markets/retail locations. Other restrictions apply.
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Sooooo $400 for 2 Arrive's, minus $250 - $150 for 2.
Hope this further helps you.
Wow.... That's awesome.... Now I'm going to have to look and see if I can combine the everything plus with the port credit, and double check to make sure we can receive two $100 rebates if we buy two phones. Thanks!
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Wow.... That's awesome.... Now I'm going to have to look and see if I can combine the everything plus with the port credit, and double check to make sure we can receive two $100 rebates if we buy two phones. Thanks!
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The port credit information was posted on the Everything Plus referral page after you logged in with the email and pin number. And the $100 refund credit is definately per phone regardless of how many you purchase.
The only thing you need to make sure of is that Sprint services your area well.
Hope I was able to help you save some money no matter what you decide, let me know what you finally end up doing. I am picking up 2 Arrives on Sunday (for wife and I).
Credit Union Discounts
For those who go/have gone through wirefly for the 50 dollar deal (which I did), since we can't sign up for the Referral Program, the next best option to still get 10% knocked off your bill is to get a discount through any affiliated credit union (of which, there are TONS). Long-term, for 1 phone, Getting the port credit and Referral discount probably works out better, but I couldn't justify spending 300 up front for the phone, waiting x number of weeks for the rebate etc..
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you can always....swap esns if your willing to get your hands dirty *cough* It works great *cough*
Halabeaster, I've never put a non-standard rom on a phone, but if it's safe, I'm willing to try. For the moment, I'm on Sprint, but not sure I'm happy with the coverage... Got 3 1/2 weeks left or so to decide. I am a developer, but not very experienced. How difficult is it?
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Sprint unlimited really is unlimited, but if you read the fine print they reserve the right to terminate you if you get retarded on it, just like any other carrier. Check with a local Sprint store about the coverage/roaming issue. Most plans on Sprint now include free roaming nationwide, and I can't think of what other major carrier in the US has CDMA other than Verizon.
Don't! sign up for a plan through the store, you need to do it online through the Everythign Plus referral, and get the plan for $10 less than doing it in store. So you can bet a HTC Arrive and pay $59.99+$10 premium data = $69.99 for 500 anytime minutes to landlines, and unlimited any mobile any time, unlimited data, pictures, text, nights starting at 7pm, etc. etc. etc.
You will need a Sprint employee email address/pin. This is where Russ McGuire comes into play, he is Vice President of Strategy for Sprint. On his blog he invites everyone for the sprint offer.
(under about on the right hand side he has his email address and pin for everyone to use freely/Legitimately)
Addendum: their fine print says they can terminate/stop service if you use too much data outside their network etc, so the roaming thing would apply here. Wouldn't hurt to check out if their coverage has improved in your area.
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Question, can you jump on this if you're an existing customer?
I just got my HTC Arrive on the Verizon Wireless network via Page Plus Cellular thanks to this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13205205&postcount=9
I replaced my well used Touch Pro 2 with an Arrive because I was waiting for Windows Phone 7 and Netflix capabilty. I'm not a heavy phone data user because I have Wi-Fi everywhere I go.
So far I was able to get the talk and text working for my unlimited plan but haven't hammered out the rest of the data settings. Might have to wait for a Verizon Trophy to come out so that I can try to mirror the settings. This method is technically on Verizon so 95% of the service is the same at a much better price. I need mainly lots and lots of Talk/Text with NO data plan fees.
I actually bought my 2 phones from Amazon Wireless. Both were upgrades for non-primary lines on a family plan (Everything Data 3000) and AW had the best deal on the devices I could find anywhere, $150. The deal got even better now though, $99 for upgraders and free for new users.
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I just got my HTC Arrive on the Verizon Wireless network via Page Plus Cellular thanks to this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13205205&postcount=9
I replaced my well used Touch Pro 2 with an Arrive because I was waiting for Windows Phone 7 and Netflix capabilty. I'm not a heavy phone data user because I have Wi-Fi everywhere I go.
So far I was able to get the talk and text working for my unlimited plan but haven't hammered out the rest of the data settings. Might have to wait for a Verizon Trophy to come out so that I can try to mirror the settings. This method is technically on Verizon so 95% of the service is the same at a much better price. I need mainly lots and lots of Talk/Text with NO data plan fees.
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What does or does not work? Do apps go to your bill?
No one else has made progress with the Arrive on Verizon. I was looking for a replacement for my TP2, and I really do not want to change carriers.
I just learned tonight that as of Thursday, 3 days from now, 4G data plans will be capped.
The new cap will be 5GB. Pricing overage is not specified just yet, I would assume the standard $10/GB overage.
This is for any NEW customers and any upgrades done AFTER this day. Anyone who already has a TBolt is grandfathered in (myself included). Spread the word, and let your friends/family know should they need a truly unlimited plan.
I would expect an announcement tomorrow sometime. Just wanted to let you guys know.
And the gospel has spoke. I am grandfathered young skywalker.
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And the gospel has spoke. I am grandfathered young skywalker.
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The unlimited data is strong with this one...
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This is the reason I upgraded immediately, even if it required paying full retail
My business rep has also told me that people getting 4G data plans better do it now, before it changes. He did not tell me this Thursday, but his feeling was no more than 30 days after the TB was released. He also told me there's no guarantee anyone on the unlim plans will be grandfathered.
This is what I was afraid of.. glad I JUST got mine lol
I knew the unlimited 4G data wouldn't last until the Droid Bionic. Glad I have my Thunderbolt.
i am in the door but i still am going to sell TB when bionic comes out
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My business rep has also told me that people getting 4G data plans better do it now, before it changes. He did not tell me this Thursday, but his feeling was no more than 30 days after the TB was released. He also told me there's no guarantee anyone on the unlim plans will be grandfathered.
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There would be lots of trouble for not grandfathering people already up and running on unlimited 4G data plans. If it isn't in the contract they can't suddenly put it into the contract. Additionally as the TB currently offers no built in mechanism to turn off 4G for those who got it under the concept of it having unlimited data would have to be offered the option to return their phones, etc... Seriously it'd be a PR nightmare/huge trouble for VZW to not grandfather people in, its the same reason AT&T did it for people who already had unlimited plans when they moved to a tiered system.
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There would be lots of trouble for not grandfathering people already up and running on unlimited 4G data plans. If it isn't in the contract they can't suddenly put it into the contract.
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That was my thought to it also. Cant change my contract just bc they want to. Thats why we have contracts, to lock things in place
So what happens when we want to move onto another 4g device? Are they going to allow us to transfer our 4g plan to the new device and retain our unlimited? I'd imagine since the LTE sim is swappable.. we can probably just pop it into another device and keep unlimited..
Any thoughts?
Wow I just signed up for Verizon today and got the Thunderbolt I signed up for the Unlimited plan looks like its a good thing I did seeing this tonight
So glad I bought my Tbird on release day.
So pissed that Verizon would do this. After the gov't sat on their hands and made them go either unlimited or 5GB (not "5GB unlimited") in years past, their CDMA based data plans have been unlimited ever since. REALLY unlimited. Unless you're in the 95th percentile. Maybe.
But now they're going the way of the greedy [email protected]#[email protected]#%(^#$^$$%#$$ at AT&T? What happened to the carrier that was both reliable-thanks-CDMA and consumer-friendly-thanks-Sprint, in the same package?
Major regression. Very unhappy. I'm glad I have grandfathered, but I wonder if I will be forced over to a 5GB plan in two years when my contract expires.
Can we get some sort of confirmation to this rumor?
I'm glad I became a Verizon customer this past Sunday. I was with T-Mobile till the news broke out. I refuse to give AT&T any of my money!
Anyway, I'm glad I made this move. The Thunderbolt is crazy fast, and I'm very happy with it. Oh, only 1 thing I did hate.... My battery died after 3 hours of being fully charged.
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So what happens when we want to move onto another 4g device? Are they going to allow us to transfer our 4g plan to the new device and retain our unlimited? I'd imagine since the LTE sim is swappable.. we can probably just pop it into another device and keep unlimited..
Any thoughts?
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I'd think that switching devices isn't an issue. Take AT&T they only forced people to tiered if they change out of the unlimited data plan. As their entry level tiered was priced at like $15/mo vs $30 so some people who didn't use much data chose to do that but never could get unlimited again. Also for developers and the like switching between devices for testing on Verizon it seems to require switching a phone ID and activating that device, but I assume with 4G the sim card would only need to be moved? I'm unsure as to how that works, but I'll likely need to move between my TB, which arrives tomorrow, and my Incredible for development purposes. So I'm sure I'll figure out the details soon.
Can we get some sort of confirmation to this rumor?
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I assume until Verizon makes an official statement it'll remain a rumor. Regardless, sooner than I've been hearing. I'd heard tiered by the summer. But suppose a test run for a week might be enough to see what kind of saturation to expect network wise. But think before the bionics release would be a reasonable guess. But well wish it wasn't headed that way. Think the approach of I think sprint just charging an additional $10/mo if you want 4G isn't a bad business model. Plus the users who get these phones and barely use any data would likely offset from those who do...
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I'd think that switching devices isn't an issue. Take AT&T they only forced people to tiered if they change out of the unlimited data plan. As their entry level tiered was priced at like $15/mo vs $30 so some people who didn't use much data chose to do that but never could get unlimited again. Also for developers and the like switching between devices for testing on Verizon it seems to require switching a phone ID and activating that device, but I assume with 4G the sim card would only need to be moved? I'm unsure as to how that works, but I'll likely need to move between my TB, which arrives tomorrow, and my Incredible for development purposes. So I'm sure I'll figure out the details soon.
I assume until Verizon makes an official statement it'll remain a rumor. Regardless, sooner than I've been hearing. I'd heard tiered by the summer. But suppose a test run for a week might be enough to see what kind of saturation to expect network wise. But think before the bionics release would be a reasonable guess. But well wish it wasn't headed that way. Think the approach of I think sprint just charging an additional $10/mo if you want 4G isn't a bad business model. Plus the users who get these phones and barely use any data would likely offset from those who do...
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after testing lte i would pay $10 a month more for it.
My Verizon Rep is allowing me to upgrade early, but pay Verizon price for the phone. But my upgrade is the 29th of March. So if I can, I would wait and grab from Amazon. So until some sort of verification somewhere I'll wait. They won't do a surprise change would they?
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My Verizon Rep is allowing me to upgrade early, but pay Verizon price for the phone. But my upgrade is the 29th of March. So if I can, I would wait and grab from Amazon. So until some sort of verification somewhere I'll wait. They won't do a surprise change would they?
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Don't think for a minute that they won't do a surprise change! The legalese you click / sign through when you're becoming a customer says they can change any part of any of your terms at any time with or without notice, basically they can decide that it's $1,000 per byte and that's just tough luck for you. Of course they would probably get sued for being unreasonable, but you see my point. The act of changing the deal on a dime is not illegal because you agreed to let them.
And if you aren't even a Verizon Unlimited Smartphone Data Plan customer at all right now, they have even less obligation to you, because you aren't a customer, and you have no chance of being grandfathered.
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Don't think for a minute that they won't do a surprise change! The legalese you click / sign through when you're becoming a customer says they can change any part of any of your terms at any time with or without notice, basically they can decide that it's $1,000 per byte and that's just tough luck for you. Of course they would probably get sued for being unreasonable, but you see my point. The act of changing the deal on a dime is not illegal because you agreed to let them.
And if you aren't even a Verizon Unlimited Smartphone Data Plan customer at all right now, they have even less obligation to you, because you aren't a customer, and you have no chance of being grandfathered.
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this was my understanding. Even if they have a contract with you, they can still change it, but it then gives you an option, you bend over and take the changes, or you can leave with no ETF.
Also if they are not going to grandfather people in, then I will be returning my phone within the 30 days and going with another carrier. I like their coverage and LTE is crazy, but a 5GB cap on internet speeds this fast? you'll be hitting cap in a week.
I am hoping that the whole deal between AT&T and T-Mobile becoming one company makes them change their mind, or at least rethink the data plans.
I'm considering the TB but I need some sound advice. I have an AMOLED Dinc purchased on release day last year. It is rooted and I have enjoyed the various roms. I live in an area where LTE is live. I am not due for an upgrade until Nov at the soonest so I would have to buy the TB unsubsidized and sell my Dinc to offset some of the cost. Do you think this is worth it? Thanks.
Word is after tomorrow you will not be able to get in on the unlimited 4g...not sure if it's true or not........just a thought
I was not aware they would be ending the unlimited 4g so soon. Did someone hear this through a vzw rep or is this online somewhere? Thanks
They are not ending the unlimited now. Someone just started an unconfirmed statement. Officially verizon hast stated they are looking to get tierd pricing around early to mid summer..
Just ordered a gray H1X on Amazon as an upgrade on existing family plan for $129. In stock, should ship in 24hrs.
Does it affect data at all? I can't lose my "unlimited" (even if it has limitations).
From what i understand previous data plans can be restored. I'd call at&t to have that confirmed. When i bought the phone the website signed me up for the $30/3GB plan which was ok with me as i'm currently on $25/2GB. But prior to that I had called AT&T to ask about being reverted to prior plan and they said no problem. Call Amazon too because there's also the possibility that even though you can revert to your previous plan via AT&T you may still be subject to $250 ETF from Amazon.
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From what i understand previous data plans can be restored. I'd call at&t to have that confirmed. When i bought the phone the website signed me up for the $30/3GB plan which was ok with me as i'm currently on $25/2GB. But prior to that I had called AT&T to ask about being reverted to prior plan and they said no problem. Call Amazon too because there's also the possibility that even though you can revert to your previous plan via AT&T you may still be subject to $250 ETF from Amazon.
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So you think. I had the unlimited data and it went to 3GB. I called AT&T to have the Unlimited back, and they said no problem. Then the computer wouldn't let them. 2 hours Late the rep gave up and opened a case which takes 2 weeks.
I might have a Rep who didn't have a clue as to what to do.
A hassle none the less.
If I had bought from AT&T directly, my Unlimited would have automatically transferred over.
Just a thought for some looking to upgrade.
Buying from ATT = grandfathered plan is hassle free
3rd Party = Gotta go through hurdles to get back the old plan.
Yeah its $130 for a new contract too...
tempted to switch from Verizon just because at&t has some phones I really wish I could have like the note, lumia, and obviously ONE X.... but I lose LTE (there isn't at&t lte here right now).
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Yeah its $130 for a new contract too...
tempted to switch from Verizon just because at&t has some phones I really wish I could have like the note, lumia, and obviously ONE X.... but I lose LTE (there isn't at&t lte here right now).
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just a suggestion, but depending where you are, HSPA+ might suffice until you get LTE. With this phone in a non-LTE market, I've been getting upwards of 10 Mbps down. Average is around 5-6 Mbps which is fine for me.
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Yeah its $130 for a new contract too...
tempted to switch from Verizon just because at&t has some phones I really wish I could have like the note, lumia, and obviously ONE X.... but I lose LTE (there isn't at&t lte here right now).
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In Salt Lake i ran speed test on an in-store phone and saw just over 7mbps on HSPA+. att announced LTE for SLC this year
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So you think. I had the unlimited data and it went to 3GB. I called AT&T to have the Unlimited back, and they said no problem. Then the computer wouldn't let them. 2 hours Late the rep gave up and opened a case which takes 2 weeks.
I might have a Rep who didn't have a clue as to what to do.
A hassle none the less.
If I had bought from AT&T directly, my Unlimited would have automatically transferred over.
Just a thought for some looking to upgrade.
Buying from ATT = grandfathered plan is hassle free
3rd Party = Gotta go through hurdles to get back the old plan.
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It worked for me. I was expecting a fight. I called to have them notate my accound and told the rep I was recording the call (which I was). I called back a few days after activating the phone (about 2 weeks from the previous call) and, while they claimed they had to open a case and make a request for the change, they did get it changed back within a few days and sent me a text message to confirm.
Tell them you recorded the call and don't let up. They'll do it.
Good luck,
Billy
im going to call them tomorrow to see if i can get the difference ($20) back.
price guarantee
http://wireless.amazon.com/help/200...rd_p=1355900242&pf_rd_t=801&pf_rd_i=200308040
okay so this worked no problem. just to let people know they will only do thie price guarantee once (so hopefully it doesnt drop more)
edit: strange but this is also only on the grey model
not a bad price!
I just placed an order with Verizon online and was able to keep my unlimited data plan while upgrading to the note 3. I verified with 611 that as long as the system allows it. I will be able to keep it. The Order confirmation shows it and also I saved the chat with another rep saying they are running a promo that is allowing people to keep their unlimited data.
can you please elaborate on that ?
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I just placed an order with Verizon online and was able to keep my unlimited data plan while upgrading to the note 3. I verified with 611 that as long as the system allows it. I will be able to keep it. The Order confirmation shows it and also I saved the chat with another rep saying they are running a promo that is allowing people to keep their unlimited data.
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I would do this right now !
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I would do this right now !
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Check out Droid-Life, they actually just posted a story on it.
It seems legit.
Too bad I'd never put another Verizon ball and chain on my ankle ever again.
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I would do this right now !
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I just went online and went through the upgrade process. I know it use to strip it and force you to a new plan but right now its allowing you to keep it. I actually find it interesting that they would allow this considering VZW just made comments about unlimited data being dead.
I just canceled my preorder for the phone alone at full price. I went online and upgraded for the note 3 and gear bundle for less than the phone retail and was able to keep my unlimited.:laugh::laugh::laugh: I kept printouts of it all.
OMG Thank you!
Just cancelled my pre-order and upgraded my line
does this mean your 2yr contract has to be up first or
I can just buy the phone outright @ contract price right if I have an existing contract and keep unlimited data ?
FYI,
I did this successfully last night, and when I talked to a CSR this morning trying to cancel my first pre-order, they told me that I would lose my unlimited data anyway, because it was just a glitch in the system that they were trying to figure out.
They did confirm to me that I could return it and revert back to unlimited data and just buy the N3 outright, as I had planned to do all along, so it's not a big deal.
I'm just saying don't cry if it doesn't work in the end.
Remember, this is Verizon we're talking about. They have no qualms about screwing us over, "contract" or no "contract".
I'm thinking about canceling my preorder to reorder on my account. At the moment i have the Note preordered on my mother-in-laws business account (to be activated on one of her lines, but then I’ll take it). That was the safest way I couldnt think to keep my unlimited. Not sure if i want to risk it
Confident Verizon will keep their end just like they haven't throttled unlimited data like AT&T has. This makes it easier than paying full price which I did for my current Note 2.
It's already been stated a few times that it might change once you activate your device. So be careful... it may lock you in to two years without your unlimited data...
This is coming from Verizon btw.
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Confident Verizon will keep their end just like they haven't throttled unlimited data like AT&T has.
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They haven't throttled because it is illegal for them to do so. The LTE spectrum they bought came with that caveat, and if they throttle LTE, they are in violation of federal law. They throttle 3G all the time because they can.
Rest assured, Verizon will not honor this. They don't care about me or you, and they could care less if we ditch them and run to T-Mobile or wherever else. All they care about is expanding their network and releasing their crappy droids.
I'm canceling my glitch order and going with the original pre-order that I thankfully never canceled.
I know Verizon too well to think this will work out.
Verizon sucks, they have atrocious business practices, and that's not going to change. Don't be fooled.
I would like to think Verizon would honor this. But since they are all about squeezing the last penny out of customers this will be my last straw with VZW.
Even United who gave away free tickets from a glitch honored it.
VZW isn't losing any money on doing this.
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I would like to think Verizon would honor this. But since they are all about squeezing the last penny out of customers this will be my last straw with VZW.
Even United who gave away free tickets from a glitch honored it.
VZW isn't losing any money on doing this.
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I too am almost done with Verizon. Have ordered a Note 3 from TMo to see what my coverage may be in and around Houston as compared to Verizon. I don't expect it to be as good but I'm not looking for that anyway. I'll compare it with the unlimited upgrade I did for the Note 3 this weekend from Verizon or my G4 if the Note falls through. If all goes well, I'll sell my three lines of unlimited, return or sells phones as appropriate and move over to TMo. Verizon just has too much arrogance IMHO.
I upgraded to a gn3 and was able to keep my unlimited data on AT&T. I read somewhere Verizon had a glitch in their oline system that allowed some people to upgrade and retain their unlimited data but they have since corrected it and that the people that were able to retain their unlimited will probably loose it anyways.
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I too am almost done with Verizon. Have ordered a Note 3 from TMo to see what my coverage may be in and around Houston as compared to Verizon. I don't expect it to be as good but I'm not looking for that anyway. I'll compare it with the unlimited upgrade I did for the Note 3 this weekend from Verizon or my G4 if the Note falls through. If all goes well, I'll sell my three lines of unlimited, return or sells phones as appropriate and move over to TMo. Verizon just has too much arrogance IMHO.
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If you decide to sell your unlimited data line on Verizon, please shoot me a PM and I will take it off your hands.
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VZWSupport on twitter just said they will automatically put you in a current plan and won't honor the "glitch". Which apparently is happening again.
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VZWSupport on twitter just said they will automatically put you in a current plan and won't honor the "glitch". Which apparently is happening again.
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I don't see this on VZWSupport, direct link?
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I don't see this on VZWSupport, direct link?
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https://twitter.com/VZWSupport/status/384681847533232129
ikithme said:
I don't see this on VZWSupport, direct link?
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At work so I can't get to post images, but search for "Light Aeterna" on Twitter, that's who VZW replied to with the news.