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[Q] Cloning phone? Everything on one inspire to another...

So my friend dropped her phone and cracked the screen... she got a replacement but doesn't want to start from scratch. Is there a way to back up all settings, sms messages, apps, etc., etc. on her phone and restore it to the new one? I was thinking Titanium Backup or Nandroid might work but was wanting to get some input from this community before I went at it on my own.
Dell has a backup and restore app that does it for my phone but I have yet to find anything quite like it for a HTC.
Any help would be appreciated, thanks in advance!

Yes I would back up all apps using titanium back up and for sms....you can try nandroid,but not many have tried to load nandroid on another phone coming from another.
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Not really thought about but why couldn't you do a back up through cwm then root the new phone... Install cwm, transfer sdcard from old to new phone then restore backup.
Theoretically it seems like it would work.
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Give it a shot and let me know how it turns out
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i can assure you nandroids (CWM backups) will work fine going from phone to phone. i have done this on multiple captivates, when i switched from my G2 to my desire z, on various mytouch4gs, etc

Nandoid is the way to go. If its rooted boot into recovery and choose backup/restore option and backup. It will take a while and makesure you have ample battery. Don't be scared when you hear Nandroid. Its a term comprised of NAND and android. NAND is just the type of flash memory that most portible electronics use. You have to reroot and reinstall rom manager and reflash recovery. And then boot into recovery on your new phone and choose the same option and restore. Make sure you have ample space on your SD card.
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Just flashed my first Rom :)

Hey guys, I just flashed my first rom and I wanted to let everyone know especially the dev but since I can't post yet in the dev section I made a thread so hopefully he will be able to read it
I flashed miui pimpmaneaton's custom rom and so far i love the looks of it!!, thanks for the rom pimp!

Congrats, soon enough you'll be flashing like two or three a day.

sshede said:
Congrats, soon enough you'll be flashing like two or three a day.
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lol I have read that a few times already, looks like you guys are all right!!!

I just flashed mine for the first time a couple days ago as well. And i know just enough to be dangerous. I'm still not sure about the backup process and what each one does.
What does Nandroid Backup do? When should it be done? And when can it be skipped?
What does Titanium Backup do? When should it be done? And when can it be skipped?
For instance, there's a minor update to the ARHD 3.6.9 -> 3.6.10. When i flash this, i assume i should make a Nandroid backup. What about Titanium? What will happen to all my installed apps? Will they be wiped out?
If i install a different ROM all together and don't like it, can i just pull out the Nandroid backup and go back to where i was with the old ROM and all apps still installed?
Also what does Super Wipe do? Does it delete my apps/app data?

wicketr said:
I just flashed mine for the first time a couple days ago as well. And i know just enough to be dangerous. I'm still not sure about the backup process and what each one does.
What does Nandroid Backup do? When should it be done? And when can it be skipped?
What does Titanium Backup do? When should it be done? And when can it be skipped?
For instance, there's a minor update to the ARHD 3.6.9 -> 3.6.10. When i flash this, i assume i should make a Nandroid backup. What about Titanium? What will happen to all my installed apps? Will they be wiped out?
If i install a different ROM all together and don't like it, can i just pull out the Nandroid backup and go back to where i was with the old ROM and all apps still installed?
Also what does Super Wipe do? Does it delete my apps/app data?
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Well I wish I could help you but I am not sure if I have all the right answers to your questions, like I said I just flashed my first rom last night and i have not restored anything yet.
Now I understand that a nandroid backup should be done before you flash a new rom if you want to restore that same rom at a later time, for example I did a nadroid backup of my stock rom but if I flash another rom I wont do a nandroid of this miui rom.
I did a titanium back of a few saved games but I have not restored anything yet.
Regarding ARHD rom I can't really tell you anything, maybe someone will help you faster if you post in their rom thread.
SuperWipe from what I have read wipes all your data, cache, dalvik with just one click instead of going one by one but in the end it will make the same effect if you wipe data, cache, dalvik one by one.
Lets wait if someone chimes in and correct me so we both can learn more

A nandroid backup is a bit for bit copy of your current Android set up. It'll back up your rom, applications, application data like text messages, playlists, bookmarks. Everything. If you ever want to go back to it, just restore the backup and you'll be up and running in 3 to 5 minutes.
Titanium backup lets you back up individual applications to be restored at a later time. For example, if I download Opera Mobile and set up all my speed dial bookmarks, I'll perform a titanium back up of the application so that if I change roms at a later time, I can restore the back up of Opera Mobile and not have to re-set anything up.
Hope this clears the air. Neither of which have to be done, mind you, but they are incredibly convenient.

A nandroid backup should be done always before flashing a new rom. even if your updating a rom you should still do a nandroid backup just in case something goes wrong. Sometimes devs forget something in updates and it could mess up your set up so always backup for safe keeping.

Thank you both for clarifying it for us

I have recently rooted and s off but may I ask what is a kernel ? I want to install a stock ics Rom (I think its pixel or something like that ) and they talk about kernels a lot . Can I just flash it like normal ?
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ihearthapple96 said:
I have recently rooted and s off but may I ask what is a kernel ? I want to install a stock ics Rom (I think its pixel or something like that ) and they talk about kernels a lot . Can I just flash it like normal ?
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You can read here what a kernel is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20768687
In the rom's thread should be the install notes on how to flash that to your phone, basically it is wipe data/factory reset, wipe cache, wipe dalvik and then flash rom.

Congratulations all who flashed their first Rom soon u all people will flashing new Rom every day. That's all possible due to great talented devs of XDA.
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Well I guess you guys are all right, I just flashed my second rom today lol and I think that I will stay with this one for a while , for those wondering I flashed senseay rom

Congratz on your first rom flash

An actual functioning Rom without Errors.
Flashed Android 4.0.1 ICS w/ Android Revolution HD 5.02 yesterday..... It
's still not a brick!

n0ferz said:
Well I guess you guys are all right, I just flashed my second rom today lol and I think that I will stay with this one for a while , for those wondering I flashed senseay rom
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You may notice diminishing battery life with rom flashes. If this is the case, download Battery Calibration from the market. Charge your phone up to 100% and fire this application up. It'll likely ask for root access upon being started (but it might not). Once you're at 100%, click the giant Battery Calibration button. It may ask for root access a second time, just grant it access and it'll wipe the battery stats file. Then, fully discharge the phone (or atleast within 2 to 5%) and charge it back up to 100%. You should notice an immediate improvement in battery life.

Concrats! Now your grown up! I did my first rom yesterday... Now i feel like a big girl... I was scared ass hell that i would ****ed this up... but it works! So i`m proud!

sshede said:
You may notice diminishing battery life with rom flashes. If this is the case, download Battery Calibration from the market. Charge your phone up to 100% and fire this application up. It'll likely ask for root access upon being started (but it might not). Once you're at 100%, click the giant Battery Calibration button. It may ask for root access a second time, just grant it access and it'll wipe the battery stats file. Then, fully discharge the phone (or atleast within 2 to 5%) and charge it back up to 100%. You should notice an immediate improvement in battery life.
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Hey thanks for the tip, I will try this today and I hope to get an improvement in my battery life!!
swesjes said:
Concrats! Now your grown up! I did my first rom yesterday... Now i feel like a big girl... I was scared ass hell that i would ****ed this up... but it works! So i`m proud!
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gratz to you as well

Lol. Nice to see so much excitement.Your Sennys are not virgins anymore. Soon enough they'll become whores, just like many others

sshede said:
Congrats, soon enough you'll be flashing like two or three a day.
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And there will be alot of bricking in procces.lol.just joking.
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Once you flashed, you will keep on flashing

What exactly does a nandroid "backup" and "restore?

If I boot into my recovery(teamwin), and do a nandroid backup, what exactly is backed up, what is not? I am on MIUI-1120901 and would like to try a new ICS rom, maybe something with beats audio since I'm a huge music guy. If I nandroid back up with MIUI rom, then wipe, and flash a different rom, can I restore that MIUI backup, or not? I don't want to lose my messages, contacts, Gmail sync, apps, settings...what is the best way to switch roms and retain all data/apps?
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When you back up it keeps your apps, settings, data, contacts, messages. everything that you have at the time you backup. But only up to that point. What I mean by that is it does not keep apps and messages you may accumulate in your next Rom
Once you get into flashing different things you should backup every week or so especially if you want to be up to date if you ever need to restore. Just my thinking
You do not keep your radio and hboot version however keep that in mind.
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What do you mean by it doesn't keep my radio and hboot? And, my main question is, can I restore a backup made on MIUI to a different ROM, like CM7 or Revolution or something?
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Also, there are 3 options unchecked:
Recovery, Cache, and .android_secure sd-ext. Should I check those also?
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restoring isnt a form of flashing. so yes you can restore over anything, no need for a superwipe or anything like that if thats what you were thinking.
hboot and radio have nothing to do with the rom software, so for instance if you flashed a rom that recommended a different radio and you went ahead and flashed it to do what the rom suggest.
then you went ahead and restored your backup, you wouldnt have the radio you had when you backed up. does that make sense?
the radio is what is used to grab your signal from your carrier and some builds of roms suggest or even semi require different radios in order to function in a stable manner.
for instance arhd 4.1.9 (2.3.5 gingerbread) reccomend radio 10.15 while 5.0.2 (4.0.1 ice cream sandwhich) now reccomends radio 11.16, if i wanted to restore my 4.1.9 it would be recommended to flash 10.15 radio with it.
but if your just doing some a back up of you miui so you dont lose it if something goes wrong on your new rom. you shouldnt have an issue just backing it up flashing new rom and restoring if need be.
think of a backup as a check point for yourself so if anything goes wrong in the futrue you can start at that check point rather starting from the beginning and finding all your settings and apps ect...

_DavidWebb said:
What do you mean by it doesn't keep my radio and hboot? And, my main question is, can I restore a backup made on MIUI to a different ROM, like CM7 or Revolution or something?
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He means it only backs up the ROM itself and the radio and hboot are always outside the backup or rom. The radio and hboot are static until you fastboot and flash a new one.
Also keep in mind to check the ril and test out different ril/radio combos that fit your area.

what you mean they are checked? what is it asking you to do with those?

They are UNchecked(recovery, cache, android secure) but I just read I don't need to check those. I understand the radio/hboot now. What I don't understand - if I nandroid b/u right now, while on MIUI, then wipe, and flash a new ROM, lets say Revolution, and then restore that backup, does it put me back on MIUI, OR leave me on Rev, with all my data(texts, contacts, settings, etc.) and apps I had on MIUI?
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_DavidWebb said:
They are UNchecked(recovery, cache, android secure) but I just read I don't need to check those. I understand the radio/hboot now. What I don't understand - if I nandroid b/u right now, while on MIUI, then wipe, and flash a new ROM, lets say Revolution, and then restore that backup, does it put me back on MIUI, OR leave me on Rev, with all my data(texts, contacts, settings, etc.) and apps I had on MIUI?
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Ok here
You back up on miui it creates a folder with you miui Rom and set up. Then you flash revolution. If restore it puts the miui back on and won't effect anything.but if you do not backup rev before restoring you will not have your rev Rom saved and will.need to superwipe and reflash rev
Restoreing will erase anything you have and replace what you had when you backed up
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Edit: you can use sms back up and titanium back up (free from the market) as well to keep your apps and messages as you flash over
Google account will sync your contacts and email so no need to worry about that. Sorry I didn't comment on that question at first.
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Specific Restore question
Hi everyone,
I have been using Nandroid and TiBackup for a while, but this thread was the closest I could find to my question, so here goes. I figure the answer will be yes (as it's a NAND backup), but I want to confirm since I have a build/configuration that I like and want to come back to exactly as is.
Does Nandroid restore everything, such as my icon placement on the homescreen, application data, everything?
Thanks!

SkydiverChris said:
Hi everyone,
I have been using Nandroid and TiBackup for a while, but this thread was the closest I could find to my question, so here goes. I figure the answer will be yes (as it's a NAND backup), but I want to confirm since I have a build/configuration that I like and want to come back to exactly as is.
Does Nandroid restore everything, such as my icon placement on the homescreen, application data, everything?
Thanks!
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Yes all of the above. It will restore to the last backup. But it does not replace/restore the Hboot and radio.

Thanks for the quick reply. That's what I suspected.

[Q] Just wanna clear up a few things about upgrading ROMs.

Hey.
At the moment i'm running ARHD 6.6.3 on my Sensation. I'd love to upgrade to the new version of ARHD(6.6.5), but i am kinda scared about the whole backup/loosing all my apps/settings/contacts/texts and so on. Is there anyway i can backup EVERYTHING? Like All user inputted data? Like SMS, Contacts, Apps, Settings, Everything?
Thanks in advance!
- Joler

Titanium Backup for apps and application data. There are applications on the market for backing up SMS and I thought Sense 3.6 could back them up to the SD card (I know for a fact 4.0 can).
For settings, haven't seen any. However, you should be able to flash 6.6.5 or 6.6.7 on top of 6.6.3, because they're very minor changes.

I use 4 ext recovery for my back up, no it won't save my messages but it saves most else. I got into a pinch the other day and had to use my backup, it was wonderful! Everything was there, well most everything. I really like 4ext because its got a lot of features and its soo easy to use. Easy to back up, easy to access backup. Everything is labeled perfectly! I use 4 ext touch. You can take a look at it in the playstore. It's just another option I thought you might like.
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realsis said:
I use 4 ext recovery for my back up, no it won't save my messages but it saves most else. I got into a pinch the other day and had to use my backup, it was wonderful! Everything was there, well most everything. I really like 4ext because its got a lot of features and its soo easy to use. Easy to back up, easy to access backup. Everything is labeled perfectly! I use 4 ext touch. You can take a look at it in the playstore. It's just another option I thought you might like.
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Actually 4EXT's backup and restore options are a bit for bit backup of the rom, it should be bakcing up messages and everything else.

Anytime I'm flashing a different ROM I use a 4ext backup. It essentially restores your system as it was exactly at the moment of the backup. So if you have had newer messages since then it will not save those but anything that was on the phone when you backed it up should be there.
I am always a little nervous to flash a new ROM (especially when I have my phone running great) but a 4ext backup really makes it pretty risk free. If you don't like the new ROM just restore the old one and its back to normal.

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Anytime I'm flashing a different ROM I use a 4ext backup. It essentially restores your system as it was exactly at the moment of the backup. So if you have had newer messages since then it will not save those but anything that was on the phone when you backed it up should be there.
I am always a little nervous to flash a new ROM (especially when I have my phone running great) but a 4ext backup really makes it pretty risk free. If you don't like the new ROM just restore the old one and its back to normal.
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I agree!
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joler said:
Hey.
At the moment i'm running ARHD 6.6.3 on my Sensation. I'd love to upgrade to the new version of ARHD(6.6.5), but i am kinda scared about the whole backup/loosing all my apps/settings/contacts/texts and so on. Is there anyway i can backup EVERYTHING? Like All user inputted data? Like SMS, Contacts, Apps, Settings, Everything?
Thanks in advance!
- Joler
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You are doing the upgrade of same rom... So you don't need to wipe at all.. Just flash the rom in recovery... You can won't lose a spec of data
Remember full wipe is required only when changing to different rom.
Not when upgrading the same rom (unless it's mentioned)
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[Q] Backups: Which is best Titanium or Recovery ROM

I have a rooted One S running Klin's Unofficial AOKP JellyBean Build 2 [9/19/12].
I have downloaded but have yet to use Titanium Backup. But I regularly back up all my system, data and settings with TWRP2.2
My question is what benefits would running a Titanium back up give me over the recovery?
Ta

You can backup or restore apps or their data one at a time with TiB

OK. Not sure why I would want to do that at the moment. I dare say there might be an occaision when I will, but it doesn't seem like a huge advantage. TRWP is just so easy to use.
Thanks

ATSPerson said:
OK. Not sure why I would want to do that at the moment. I dare say there might be an occaision when I will, but it doesn't seem like a huge advantage. TRWP is just so easy to use.
Thanks
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They dont really do the same thing as your recovery takes a backup of your whole ROM and your apps and settings. TiB is more granular and also cannot backup your ROM. You could compare them to PC stuff, then TWRP or CWM backups are like a whole disk image like what you can get with Symantec Ghost. You could restore this after your OS is completely broken and quickly be up and running again like you never downloaded that addon to see who has blocked you on MSN Messenger. A TiB style backup wouldnt help you then but it would be good to have a TiB style backup of WoW with all your addons, settings and goldfarming bots ready to go after you reinstalled Windows.

OK that makes much more sense. I'll give it a go. I have flashed four or five ROMs over the last few days and have noticed a twrp restore doesn't get things back exactly as I'd like them.
Thanks again
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ATSPerson said:
OK that makes much more sense. I'll give it a go. I have flashed four or five ROMs over the last few days and have noticed a twrp restore doesn't get things back exactly as I'd like them.
Thanks again
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The only thing I use TiB for personally is to backup, uninstall and restore Swiftkey3 so it doesn't have to be setup again at every reboot, this is a jellybean bug with paid apps. Maybe not present in AOKP? Also works for other paid apps and widgets acting out apparently.