Hey guys, I'm getting a bell Sensation (The one with the AT&T bands) real soon and I want to know if I can just s-off it and flash roms like I would to a normal T-Mobile Sensation... Thanks...
that would depend on the H-boot it will come with. if it came with ICS, then most probably it will be H-boot 1.27, and there will be some trouble with that. although there is a method to S-Off that here in the development section.
of course you will need to de-brand it too. but don't worry, once you get the phone, search here and you will find all the answers on how to de-brand and everything that follows.
anything you wanna ask and couldn't find by search, post it here and we will help
Alaq said:
Hey guys, I'm getting a bell Sensation (The one with the AT&T bands) real soon and I want to know if I can just s-off it and flash roms like I would to a normal T-Mobile Sensation... Thanks...
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I have a bell/virgin sensation that I was able to root and flash custom roms. I rooted my phone back in October of last year.
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I have a bell/virgin sensation that I was able to root and flash custom roms. I rooted my phone back in October of last year.
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I also have a Bell/Virgin Sensation and I rooted no problem. I am running a custom ROM.
I have the bell sensation running on the Telus network. As mentioned. it will depend on your h-boot.
Hold the volume-down button and the power button in the same from cold boot (take your battery off) and you should see the h-boot version on it. Anything above 1.27 will be more difficult if not... piece of cake.
Take out the battery again and boot up after that.
Alright so I finally got it and it might already be modded? It says unlocked, s-off, and hboot 1.29. Does that mean it's done, so I can flash any ROM now from the dev section? (With wipes and instruction following, Im not a noob lol)
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Alright so I finally got it and it might already be modded? It says unlocked, s-off, and hboot 1.29. Does that mean it's done, so I can flash any ROM now from the dev section? (With wipes and instruction following, Im not a noob lol)
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Easiest way to check. See if you find an app called super user installed in your app tray. Or download an app called root checker to make sure.
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Ok so I unlocked with the Official HTC Bootloader unlock tool. I have been trying to find the answer to my question of what else needs to be done before I can Rom the thing. I have been reading and everyone just seems to be arguing whether or not you need S-OFF in order to put a rom on the phone.
So please... Someone give me a straight answer. What else Do i need to do before I can load a custom rom on the phone. I went through tall of the official unlock stuff and its unlocked. Now what?!?!
First you need CWM. Then just flash the zip of your ROM
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Thanks man for the response. Thats what i thought needed to happen but wasnt sure. Off to rom I go!
Still having trouble
Well i went to the dev section and tried to follow the steps to installing CWM and I'm getting an error. Im thinking I might need to do the HBOOT steps too. Im going to try that next. I just dont want to break my 3 day old phone.... ya know.
You can't install CWM or any other ROM if you enabled s-off with the HTC dev tool. You can only do it if you use revolutionary.
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Well i went to the dev section and tried to follow the steps to installing CWM and I'm getting an error. Im thinking I might need to do the HBOOT steps too. Im going to try that next. I just dont want to break my 3 day old phone.... ya know.
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You can't install CWM or any other ROM if you enabled s-off with the HTC dev tool. You can only do it if you use revolutionary.
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With the Sensation this is no reason not to use revolutionary and get true S-OFF.
But if you want to continue down the HTC Unlocked path, you may want to visit the Evo 3G forum. There are some excellent threads and discussion on how to get into ClockworkMod using the HBOOT method. For some of the folks over in Evo 3G land, the latest HBOOT that was released for their HTC Unlock OTA has rendered Revolutionary useless because it disabled the root exploit, so they have no choice.
But if I were you, go with Revolutionary for permanent S-OFF/Nand unlock.
I've checked every possible tag in my mind about this and couldn't find one for Sensation.
Is it possible to revet back to the original state before the Revolutionary. Is it possible to completely uninstall the Revolutionary from my phone?
I'm not talking about the s-off -> s-on
I'm talking about returning the phones software to its original state.
Like it is never installed in the first place.
Thank you.
It's funny because last weekend I wanted to do exactly the same thing.
What I learnt was to go from S-OFF back to S-ON can be quite fiddly and tricky, abd if you mess it up rub the risk of bricking your phone.
In order to get the stock Rom, here is the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074559
Now it's just a case of finding which one you are, and your ril and radio.
Good luck
Thank you for your answer. But this is not what I want I can do this already but when I check the bootloader I see the pink "Locked" and it tells me that Revolutionary is still there.
I can go to S-On without any trouble that is not what I am asking.
What I am asking is to be able to get rid of every little bit of coding about the Revolutionary and return my phone to its original bootloader software.
If is says locked then ur good since that's what it said when you bought the phone.
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moshe22 said:
If is says locked then ur good since that's what it said when you bought the phone.
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When I get my phone there wasn't such writing. It is the product of Revolutionary.
So it is still there. I want to be able to get rid of it.
I'm not asking this about the warranty purposes. I'm asking this because I've realized that after using Revolutionary I can't install any app from market via wireless no matter what I did. Strangely it is fine to surf and download via mobile.
I know this because this is the Second Sensation I've faced having this problem and I remember some user Leviathan(maybe wrong?) talking about wifi dieing after Revolutionary.
So what I need is to get rid of it and be able to install original bootloader(maybe bootloader is not the right term here I don't know).
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When I get my phone there wasn't such writing. It is the product of Revolutionary.
So it is still there. I want to be able to get rid of it.
I'm not asking this about the warranty purposes. I'm asking this because I've realized that after using Revolutionary I can't install any app from market via wireless no matter what I did. Strangely it is fine to surf and download via mobile.
I know this because this is the Second Sensation I've faced having this problem and I remember some user Leviathan(maybe wrong?) talking about wifi dieing after Revolutionary.
So what I need is to get rid of it and be able to install original bootloader(maybe bootloader is not the right term here I don't know).
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flash stock hboot, should come with a ruu file, but you can always check if you extract rom.zip from the ruu.exe.
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I've tried installing stock roms over it no luck untill now.
webmanya said:
I've tried installing stock roms over it no luck untill now.
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i am saying that you probably have a modified hboot, because of the revolutionary sOFF, just like alpharev. you need to flash stock hboot to get everything back, hboot flashing is dangerous, if it goes wrong youll have a brick.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire
and stock hboots are found in ruus.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire
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and stock hboots are found in ruus.
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Thank you for your answer. I understand what do you mean. But I'm not sure if it will help because while flashing stock rom it also updates hboot.
Hi there, I've got CM7 with S-OFF on my Sensation right now and I'm going to give my phone to my aunt since I upgraded to a GN
Just wondering, what's the easiest way to get it back to stock and wiping it too? I need it so that it'll start getting OTA updates again.. doesn't really matter if it stays rooted (I'd prefer that but whatever is easier..)
Tried looking at some guides but they all don't have what I'm looking for..
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Hi there, I've got CM7 with S-OFF on my Sensation right now and I'm going to give my phone to my aunt since I upgraded to a GN
Just wondering, what's the easiest way to get it back to stock and wiping it too? I need it so that it'll start getting OTA updates again.. doesn't really matter if it stays rooted (I'd prefer that but whatever is easier..)
Tried looking at some guides but they all don't have what I'm looking for..
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Just run the stock ruu for your carrier...and there is a few guides for this actually. You should prolly look at that sticky(the one about guides) again...
Sent by my feau gee
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Hi there, I've got CM7 with S-OFF on my Sensation right now and I'm going to give my phone to my aunt since I upgraded to a GN
Just wondering, what's the easiest way to get it back to stock and wiping it too? I need it so that it'll start getting OTA updates again.. doesn't really matter if it stays rooted (I'd prefer that but whatever is easier..)
Tried looking at some guides but they all don't have what I'm looking for..
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Hi,
I'm not sure which guides you have looked at.
Have you seen THIS ONE,
or THIS ONE
I don't get the updates either. How can I check if my phone is S-Off or not?
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I don't get the updates either. How can I check if my phone is S-Off or not?
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S off is not the reason you're not getting OTA, custom recovery would be the most likely culprit. To see if you are s off, poweroff the phone, remove battery, replace battery, hold volume down and power, release the power button but keep holding the volume down, H Boot should appear, it will say s off or s on.
Did you buy the phone new or used? Have you flashed any custom ROM?
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using xda premium
Also, if did the superCID, make sure to return it to stock so your Aunt can get OTA updates.
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Did you buy the phone new or used? Have you flashed any custom ROM?
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So you can keep S-OFF and root and still get OTAs?
Nope, my phone was branded at first, but I flashed 2.3.4 (
RUU_Pyramid_HTC_Europe_1.45.401.2_Radio_10.56.9035 .00U_10.14.9035.01_M_release_208857_signed) from this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1074559
to unbrand it.
so what CID should I set it to for T-Mobile USA??
Can't seem to find that anywhere.. and where/how do I wipe my SD card?
Here's a list of CID codes this should be of use to you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1195475
To format your sd card connect your phone to your pc and right click format on your sd card when connected via storage mode
thanks Nik.. argghh the only thing I'm missing now is the RUU stock ROM. That link that's stickied in the dev forum for the latest T-Mobile USA ROM is dead.. trying to find a mirror now
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S off is not the reason you're not getting OTA, custom recovery would be the most likely culprit. To see if you are s off, poweroff the phone, remove battery, replace battery, hold volume down and power, release the power button but keep holding the volume down, H Boot should appear, it will say s off or s on.
Did you buy the phone new or used? Have you flashed any custom ROM?
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So can you tell me?
Nope, my phone was branded at first, but I flashed 2.3.4 (
RUU_Pyramid_HTC_Europe_1.45.401.2_Radio_10.56.9035 .00U_10.14.9035.01_M_release_208857_signed) from this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1074559
to unbrand it.
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If you were a bit silly like me, perhaps you flashed the JB OTA on your Telus HOX before you rooted, unlocked, got SuperCID and S-Off. I didn't have much luck searching the forum for exact steps on how to get that stuff after taking the OTA. All the info is here, but I was confused what applied to my Telus phone and what would work even after the JB OTA. So I figured I'd detail my steps here in case someone else wants a detailed guide. Obviously the credit for everything below goes to the original authors of the techniques. I'm just linking stuff.
Unlock
1.Register at HTCDev and follow the directions to unlock your bootloader. Its pretty straightforward. You don't need to download the whole huge 300+ Android SDK. You can just get the adb-fastboot package from this thread.
Flash Recovery
I flashed TWRP with one-click via this AIO toolkit. There is probably tons of other ways to do it.
Root
Not sure its possible to root the stock JB unless you install a different ROM. So I did a system reset in TWRP and the flashed the Viper XL ROM. Its pre-rooted.
SuperCID
Its quite easy - just follow this guide exactly.
S-Off
Follow this guide and you shouldn't have a problem.
Once you have all that, you can downgrade your touch firmware. The reason to do this is if you want to install AOSP-based ROMs like CyanogenMod or AOKP. I haven't done that yet because I'm pretty happy with ViperXL. If you want to stick with Sense-based ROMs it isn't necessary to downgrade.
As a final note, once you've got ViperXL and S-Off I'd highly recommend trying the ElementalX Kernel.
Root
Not sure its possible to root the stock JB unless you install a different ROM. So I did a system reset in TWRP and the flashed the Viper XL ROM. Its pre-rooted.
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You can. I was able to root my stock JB (had to install SuperSU manually) after installing the custom recovery through fastboot.
JeremyNSL said:
If you were a bit silly like me, perhaps you flashed the JB OTA on your Telus HOX before you rooted, unlocked, got SuperCID and S-Off. I didn't have much luck searching the forum for exact steps on how to get that stuff after taking the OTA. All the info is here, but I was confused what applied to my Telus phone and what would work even after the JB OTA. So I figured I'd detail my steps here in case someone else wants a detailed guide. Obviously the credit for everything below goes to the original authors of the techniques. I'm just linking stuff.
Unlock
1.Register at HTCDev and follow the directions to unlock your bootloader. Its pretty straightforward. You don't need to download the whole huge 300+ Android SDK. You can just get the adb-fastboot package from this thread.
Flash Recovery
I flashed TWRP with one-click via this AIO toolkit. There is probably tons of other ways to do it.
Root
Not sure its possible to root the stock JB unless you install a different ROM. So I did a system reset in TWRP and the flashed the Viper XL ROM. Its pre-rooted.
SuperCID
Its quite easy - just follow this guide exactly.
S-Off
Follow this guide and you shouldn't have a problem.
Once you have all that, you can downgrade your touch firmware. The reason to do this is if you want to install AOSP-based ROMs like CyanogenMod or AOKP. I haven't done that yet because I'm pretty happy with ViperXL. If you want to stick with Sense-based ROMs it isn't necessary to downgrade.
As a final note, once you've got ViperXL and S-Off I'd highly recommend trying the ElementalX Kernel.
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does this work on ONE XL international version.i have 3.17.708.5 software version on my one xl.
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does this work on ONE XL international version.i have 3.17.708.5 software version on my one xl.
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It should work on any S4 dual-core One XL except on AT&T.
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It should work on any S4 dual-core One XL.
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But not the ATT version because they're locked from HTCdev.
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But not the ATT version because they're locked from HTCdev.
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Whoops--corrected.
if i have the unlock token i can root 3.18 AT T ota?
Yup, if you managed to unlock the bootloader then you're clear to go all the way to s-off (and you should).
I have a htc one S , but this SuperCID doesn't work on my device.
Does it work after the JB OTA with the One X ?
I'm unable to use my Phone without using custom ROMs, 'cause I can't flash any RUU (CID is T-MOB101).
(I had battery problems after JB OTA-Update)
This isn't the One S forum. I'd advise asking in the appropriate forum.
Ok i can bearly find any info i'm sorry if im in the wrong place but the one x plus from [email protected] just got an ota is it still posible to root after this update? I tryed hysoon200's tool kit but the htc dev website claims my unlock key is too short i coppied it perfectly several times infact the last time i almost bricked it the screen was black for a half hour and after 2-5 mins holding the power button it booted back up can someone please point my retarted a$$ to the rite direction?
Hey, the One X+ is a totally different phone so I can' t really say what's the best direction. You are best off posting in the One X+ forum.
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Ok i can bearly find any info i'm sorry if im in the wrong place but the one x plus from [email protected] just got an ota is it still posible to root after this update? I tryed hysoon200's tool kit but the htc dev website claims my unlock key is too short i coppied it perfectly several times infact the last time i almost bricked it the screen was black for a half hour and after 2-5 mins holding the power button it booted back up can someone please point my retarted a$$ to the rite direction?
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Yea I found this one by accident with Google but yes I am looking for a one x forum that's actually active I'm wanting to smash my head in
Have you looked here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1814
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Yea I found this one by accident with Google but yes I am looking for a one x forum that's actually active I'm wanting to smash my head in
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yea i'm sorry i got it lol
i wound up following the htc steps and manually made a folder and it gave me the correct token so needless to say it's unlocked flashed the su.zip made a nandroid and now i got full root thanks for your help thoe but now i'm looking at roms i keep hearing viper is the thing to have but i'm impartial to cyanogen so i'm looking for unofficial portss i wish they would crack s-off so i could do a normal flash without the dang adb lol
If I do this, will I lose my SIM unlock? I am using an unlocked Telus One X with Fido. Thanks.
You can s-off. You just need to change yiur cid to 11111111 first. Aosp roms are all in the original android development section of this forum.
I believe carrier unlock is done at the bootloader layer so it should not affect your sim unlock
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I just unlocked the bootloader. Now I want to flash TWRP, but do I need to run the X Factor exploit in the AIO toolkit? Thanks.
Just a quick question, I did all the steps including downgrading the touch firmware (thanks for the help!), but I just have one more question. I was looking at CM 10.1 ROM and it said and update to RUU 3.18 is required. How can I check my RUU? Do I need to update? Thanks for any help.
Just checked my RUU, it's 3.17.
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Just a quick question, I did all the steps including downgrading the touch firmware (thanks for the help!), but I just have one more question. I was looking at CM 10.1 ROM and it said and update to RUU 3.18 is required. How can I check my RUU? Do I need to update? Thanks for any help.
Just checked my RUU, it's 3.17.
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3.17 is fine. If that cm10.1 doesn't boot, ruu again, flash recovery, downgrade touchscreen and flash it again.
I would like to ask I downloaded the ruu for htc inspire off their web site, from what I had read it is the latest software for the inspire. question would it lock my inspire if i flashed it? thanks
gage0727 said:
I would like to ask I downloaded the ruu for htc inspire off their web site, from what I had read it is the latest software for the inspire. question would it lock my inspire if i flashed it? thanks
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If you are S-Off, you will lose recovery and root but keep S-Off. If your bootloader is unlocked, you will need to relock it before the RUU will run.
can you tell me how to check to make sure bootloader is locked? I am asuming my bootloader is unlocked because I dont know anything about locking it.
gage0727 said:
can you tell me how to check to make sure bootloader is locked? I am asuming my bootloader is unlocked because I dont know anything about locking it.
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Reboot into hboot. It will say what you have at the top.
k says eng s-off RL so I take the rl to mean recovery is locked.
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k says eng s-off RL so I take the rl to mean recovery is locked.
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Recovery is not lockable. The bootloader is. Your bootloader isn't unlocked but you are S-Off. If you run a RUU it will wipe your recovery and ROM, but you will keep S-Off.
yea i figured it would wipe my rom i have on my phone now, but as long as it dont lock my phone so i can flash another rom or radio to it later is ok. Kinda wanting to go back to stock since it seams the rom developement is going away for inspire. I still have two months before I can upgrade, but i do plan on keeping my inpsire for playing around with. Looking at getting a gal3 or maybe gal4 not sure yet.
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yea i figured it would wipe my rom i have on my phone now, but as long as it dont lock my phone so i can flash another rom or radio to it later is ok. Kinda wanting to go back to stock since it seams the rom developement is going away for inspire. I still have two months before I can upgrade, but i do plan on keeping my inpsire for playing around with. Looking at getting a gal3 or maybe gal4 not sure yet.
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Inspire 4G can use Desire HD ROMs. Look in those forums for more development.
I have been dont really like many of them. wish I could learn how to cook my own rom, but do not have the time it takes to learn it. well I do i guess just would have to start at the very begining and do not have the linux system. I will some day take the time to learn it, right now i am making sure I am up on the basics, every day and every question is a learning experiance which is why i like doing this. lol thanks again for the info bud.
i just noticed something you said htc desire HD not just htc desire. Is their a differance between the two? i have been looking in desire.
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I have been dont really like many of them. wish I could learn how to cook my own rom, but do not have the time it takes to learn it. well I do i guess just would have to start at the very begining and do not have the linux system. I will some day take the time to learn it, right now i am making sure I am up on the basics, every day and every question is a learning experiance which is why i like doing this. lol thanks again for the info bud.
i just noticed something you said htc desire HD not just htc desire. Is their a differance between the two? i have been looking in desire.
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The Desire HD and the Inspire 4G are essentially the same phone. The Desire is the precursor to the DHD. So yes, there is a big difference between the Desire and the Desire HD. Do not flash Desire ROMs on a DHD or an I4G; they are incompatible.