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Maybe this is a really dumb question,
but i have this problem with longer movies, say 50 movies. If i watch them on my phone they hang and lag terribly! i dont know what the problem is... short movies arent the problem! plz help
which player do u use?
try tcpmp.
i watch much longer movies using that and no lag.
tried tmcp but same result! could it be that my memory card is too slow?
cpt.bert said:
tried tmcp but same result! could it be that my memory card is too slow?
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maybe the video you are watching is too big to handle for the vox's cpu ? if thats the case.. then use PocketDivXEncoder to scale down the file and qulity, which you can't see on the phone.. This allways works and you won't have any lag at all .. ! Try it, its free.. Not only that but your video files will get much smaller in size!
It usually is a memory problem. You should reencode them to lower bitrates and/or resolution and use a codec that doesn't need much processing power!
EDIT: Ups you were faster!
frauhottelmann said:
It usually is a memory problem. You should reencode them to lower bitrates and/or resolution and use a codec that doesn't need much processing power!
EDIT: Ups you were faster!
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Hehe well then it just got confirmed..
But my suggestion would be that you use TCMP and then encode your videoes with PocketDivXEncoder.. It encodes the movies in divx format which TCPMP supports fully..
Good TIPS Friends... I convert all movies to MP4 format and plau using my default 710 (Windows Media Player). No issue for me. I will also have a try of TCPMP player and compare it Hope this will be much light for phone memory
Q: What format is best for pocket pc (MP4 or Divx converted by PocketDivXEncoder) ?
Download Source:
TCPMP Player: http://tcpmp.en.softonic.com/pocket
PocketDivXEncoder: http://www.pocketdivxencoder.net/
Video Recoding Tutorial - Video Settings
I worked on this pretty long and finally I do it this way:
Convert my videos with "Any Video Converter" (Freeware, google for it).
Use the following setting and the video will flow easily and the quality remains good:
Profile (defines the format): Mobile Phone MPEG-4 Movie
Codec: mpeg4
Size: 320x240 or 220x176, in this case size doesn´t really matter and does not effect the filesize that much.
Videobitrate: 96 kb/s is enough and gives u a good videoquality, the audioquality is more important, especially when u listen on the build in speakers.
video framerate: 15 fps (frames per second) are enough for fluid playback.
Audio Bitrate at least 128kbs, lower bitrate will sound like a tin.
Samplerate: 48000, sothat the audio is synch to the video.
So finally u will get a 90min. movie with about 130-150MB. That sounds little, but believe me, the quality is as good as a 300MB movie. If the quality is bad, the original movie itself has alot of pixelfractures in it.
U can watch the movie in win-mediaplayer without any codec-problems.
I got about 30 full length movies on my 4GB storagecard on VOX.
Here are my tips:
U can batch-encode them, just load the movies in the prog an check all boxes, do the settings once and let the prog recode all movies.
U can merge 2 files into 1. if u got the movie in 2 parts for example. just check the 2 files and rightclick merge down.
Check the aspectratio of your movies. in most cases it´s no problem with 320x240 size, but if u haven´t got a 16:9 movie, for example a 4:3 or widescreen without letterboxes, the movie will not be shown correctly, concerning the ratio. in this case set the size to "original", and probably change the settings in win mediaplayer not to fit the video automatically on screen.
What increases or decreases filesize the most are the video and audio bitrates.
Tried it a million times, the settings here are the best. otherwise u will get a huge filesize with almost no better video quality. But don´t get lower than the settings I mentioned above.
so thats my way, works best!!
PS: It´s actually not a matter of what player u use, it´s just that videoplayback in general uses the cpu heavily. But even if u got a better phone with better cpu u can use this settings, as I mentioned, u cannot see alot of diffrence to an 300MB movie, but u will be able to store the doubled amount of movies on your sd-card.
I use handbrake at home to convert videos, but at the moment it seems to be a bit hit and miss when it comes to working it on the Nexus.
I've installed Meridian and Video Player from the market, both read videos the same way.
So I converted 5 videos with no problem, they were relatively short. But when I did a longer conversion (dvd which was 1hr 30) it just didn't like it. Plays on my PC fine.
I cant remember which settings I used, so can anyone recommend what settings to use in handbrake? Or is there better software to convert movies with? Or is there a better media player on the market?
mp4 with h264. If I remember right there is still an iPod profile. The newer version did away with a lot of the profiles but that one should be around. With this screen you do not need to scale down the image but it would help for space.
When I get home I can post more detailed settings if need be.
I'm using Allok Mpeg4 converter at 720x480
i found using handbrake that h.264 doesn't work on the nexus, but the regular mp4 codec does
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i found using handbrake that h.264 doesn't work on the nexus, but the regular mp4 codec does
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Not to be anal but mp4 is a container format (like ogg), not a codec (like vorbis). MPEG-4 part 2 is the "default" visual codec component. In reality it is not anymore. H.264 is also part of the MPEG-4 specification, MPEG-4 part 10 to be precise. In handbrake H.264 is the default for the mp4 container.
I am certain that h.264 can work on the N1. I have a few time wasters I keep on my phone. The more operative question is whether the current handbrake ripping to m4v works for the N1. I am reripping a film right now using the iPhone profile....
And using the iPhone & iPod Touch preset in Handbrake 0.9.4 the rip worked fine. Which preset did you use? Keep in mind some of the higher h.264 profiles might not work on the phone.
Personally I would probably up the picture settings to match the N1's resolution and maybe bump the quality down if worried about space. I was able to play a h.264 set to high settings but I am not sure what the exact settings were. It appears the N1 can handle most, if not all, h.264 profiles.
ive done this, works perfectly with 720p mkv's
HANDBRAKE:
set vid profile to normal,
container: MP4 800 x 480 ,, check the keep aspect ratio, anamorphic off, bitrate 1500
audio AAC, 44.1khz, bitrate 96 stereo
save profile, load file
your jaw is gonna drop if you use these settings and encode a 720p mkv
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ive done this, works perfectly with 720p mkv's
HANDBRAKE:
set vid profile to normal,
container: MP4 800 x 480 ,, check the keep aspect ratio, anamorphic off, bitrate 1500
audio AAC, 44.1khz, bitrate 96 stereo
save profile, load file
your jaw is gonna drop if you use these settings and encode a 720p mkv
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Thanks for the info, gonna try it right now
Just so you have optoins I use Handbrake, just converted American Pie The naked Mile from DVD and it looks good. Here's my settings:
Container: MP4 File
Picture Tab: Set Anamorphic to None
Select Keep Aspect Ratio. It should auto scale the hight to proper hight
Video Tab: Video Codec to MPEG-4
Average Bit Rate to 700. You can use previously recommended 1500 but this will make a large file and I'm not sure you will see the difference in
quality on out small screens.
Audio Tab: Leave everything default accept the Samplerate set to 44.1
Click Start!!!!
kscasper13 said:
ive done this, works perfectly with 720p mkv's
HANDBRAKE:
set vid profile to normal,
container: MP4 800 x 480 ,, check the keep aspect ratio, anamorphic off, bitrate 1500
audio AAC, 44.1khz, bitrate 96 stereo
save profile, load file
your jaw is gonna drop if you use these settings and encode a 720p mkv
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800x480 with aspect ratio might aswel be 720x480
and the bitrate, as setzer said wont make to big of a difference on a small screen. 768-1024 are fine. 1500 appears to be a random number you chose as typical bitrates go from 768, 1024, 2048 etc
yea you can prolly set the vid bitrate lower, that's just what it was default and the movies come out perfect, i'm still testing other settings.
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800x480 with aspect ratio might aswel be 720x480
and the bitrate, as setzer said wont make to big of a difference on a small screen. 768-1024 are fine. 1500 appears to be a random number you chose as typical bitrates go from 768, 1024, 2048 etc
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yes it DOES make a difference, since our screen's are 80 pixels wider than 720
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kscasper13 said:
yes it DOES make a difference, since our screen's are 80 pixels wider than 720
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u dnt seem to quite understand. a typical video is made to have certain resolutions. obviously by converting a video u wil want to maintain the original aspect ratio, unless of course u dnt mind watching a stretched un porportioned video. that is why most converters have preset res already set to keep those aspect ratios and quality.from what u already said, u are watching a video stretched 80pixels too wide.
16/9 is the closest we have to a ratio standard, and 720x480 doesn't match that.
If your source is more than 800 pixels wide, the best setting is to scale the width down to 800 and let the height scale down proportionately. On a 16/9 video, this will leave very thin black bars on the bottom and top of your phone's screen. If these bother you, you will need to fiddle with Handbrake's crop settings.
If your source is smaller than 800 pixels wide, then you should just leave the resolution the same as the source. Upconverting will not make the picture any better and will just increase the filesize/bitrate.
As for bitrate, I've found that 1000-1500 looks amazing if you are converting HD video, but if you're converting SD then around 750 is sufficient.
A non-widescreen source will leave black bars to the left and right on your phone - you can get around this in two ways - firstly by stretching the picture which looks ugly IMO, or by doing your own cropping of the top and bottom of the picture during conversion.
JanetPanic said:
Not to be anal but mp4 is a container format (like ogg), not a codec (like vorbis). MPEG-4 part 2 is the "default" visual codec component. In reality it is not anymore. H.264 is also part of the MPEG-4 specification, MPEG-4 part 10 to be precise. In handbrake H.264 is the default for the mp4 container.
I am certain that h.264 can work on the N1. I have a few time wasters I keep on my phone. The more operative question is whether the current handbrake ripping to m4v works for the N1. I am reripping a film right now using the iPhone profile....
And using the iPhone & iPod Touch preset in Handbrake 0.9.4 the rip worked fine. Which preset did you use? Keep in mind some of the higher h.264 profiles might not work on the phone.
Personally I would probably up the picture settings to match the N1's resolution and maybe bump the quality down if worried about space. I was able to play a h.264 set to high settings but I am not sure what the exact settings were. It appears the N1 can handle most, if not all, h.264 profiles.
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you're right, didn't mean to say codec..thanks for correcting me
but it didn't seem to matter what i picked..normal, high profile, ipod touch, etc. anything i encoded to h.264 WON'T play. now maybe i'm overlooking something (likely), but who knows
edit: you handbrake users. do you change the audio settings at all? and do you do 2 pass, and would that help with anything?
i've noticed my encodes get a little blocky here and there, would 2 pass fix that?
kscasper13 said:
ive done this, works perfectly with 720p mkv's
HANDBRAKE:
set vid profile to normal,
container: MP4 800 x 480 ,, check the keep aspect ratio, anamorphic off, bitrate 1500
audio AAC, 44.1khz, bitrate 96 stereo
save profile, load file
your jaw is gonna drop if you use these settings and encode a 720p mkv
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Brilliant advice, worked a treat! Thanks a lot
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u dnt seem to quite understand. a typical video is made to have certain resolutions. obviously by converting a video u wil want to maintain the original aspect ratio, unless of course u dnt mind watching a stretched un porportioned video. that is why most converters have preset res already set to keep those aspect ratios and quality.from what u already said, u are watching a video stretched 80pixels too wide.
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ggggodddddi i was kidding u doof
and yes i understand bitrate an d resolutions, i went to school for 3d rendering, but thanks for the gradeschool lesson on resolution gates.
tvrf21 said:
Brilliant advice, worked a treat! Thanks a lot
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no worries buddy, soon ima figure out the cropping settings sop it fills the screen, even though it doesn't bother me one bit
I currently use the following (for 16x9 content)
Code:
ffmpeg -i Input.avi -acodec libfaac -ac 2 -ar 44100 -ab 128k -s 800x450 -vcodec libx264 -b 700k -flags +loop -cmp +chroma -partitions +parti4x4+partp8x8+partb8x8 -subq 5 -trellis 1 -refs 1 -coder 0 -me_range 16 -g 300 -keyint_min 25 -sc_threshold 40 -i_qfactor 0.71 -bt 400k -maxrate 700k -bufsize 400k -rc_eq 'blurCplx^(1-qComp)' -qcomp 0.6 -qmin 15 -qmax 51 -qdiff 4 -level 30 output.mp4
I miss out "-s 800x450" if the source material is under that already, no point scaling it up when the N1 will do it for you. For 4:3 I'd use "-s 640x480"
I use the program Flash to Video PRO, to me has very much helps.
The reason why above poster chose 1500 bitrare when converting from a 720p video is because from what I have found to be the highest bitrate the N1 will support (or all the video players on the market atleast) btw use mVideoPlayer by far the best video player...
I might also add that the latest version of AnyDVD converter has a converting option built in for the nexus ... wich is basically the same as aboves post handbreak settings..
hey guys
tell me which is the best software for X10i full screen video convertor..
i want software which convert video to full screen ...for my x10i
thank you
i use this
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i use this
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Is that converter fast? Cause all of the video converters seem to take very long.. How long on avg will it take to convert 1hr of video?
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i use this
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thanks
i will try it
Imtoo HD is best for me, can setup 854x480 full screen.
Sed from my X10i @BKK
With Rockplayer from the Android Market you woun't ever have to convert a video again. It plays all formats including mkv out of the box!
Sent from my X10i using Tapatalk
I use SUPER ©
Yes use Rockplayer
After second "Rockplayer" - it really does away with having to spend hours converting "most" movies
somebody really still converting?
Yes, I still do it, because movies take less space on my SD card once they are in MP4 (with the right format) instead of original format.
I cannot change movies every nigth, I have to store 6 or 7 for the week... (and music, and pictures, and...)
thank you
thank you guys
i will try it all..
and yaa instead of direct copy i prefer to convert it becoz it take less memory on my SD card thats why
but you can save much time with bigger sd-card an the rockplayer...
XperiaX10iUser said:
I use SUPER ©
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+1 for super and it rocks...
So which media player is good to play HD video in MP4 format? Rockplayer or Super?
Guys,
I have tried handbrake to encode and Rockplayer, realplayer beta to playback the below video clip :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJPbozRomX4
With no success and the video become stuck when it reached : 2:44
Let me know if anyone can overcome this problem, thanks.
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So which media player is good to play HD video in MP4 format? Rockplayer or Super?
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SUPER is NOT a media player, its a video converter to use in your PC.
on my X10i (unbranded) the SE Mediascape video player plays better than Rock player, the sound is in sync more than Rock player for example.
I have also used "IM TOO" but found it very slow. (1.5 hours to encode a 30 minute episode of Alan Partridge.
I now use WinX DVD Ripper winxdvd d0t c0m (no I dont work for them).
If this is spyware or whatever please let me know, but in encodes a DVD film in 45 mins (even a Disney one with all that special encoding)
My question is....
"what is the ultimate setting for encoding a DVD to MP4 for the X10i?
Please do not reply if you are just guessing, the X10i does not like frame rate 30 for example..
thanks
x2 on using Super as the video convertor. It's free and it offers more features than most other video convertors.
but with RockPlayer (and yxplayer for some files) I no longer need to convert. my 16gb only stores documents, some pictures, and videos but no mp3 since i'd rather listen to streaming internet radio than download mp3s.
the "best" video setting will depend on how you rate video quality. imo, for smoothness and when you are watching movies, i'd go with 23 fps or less, and have high bitrate but reduced resolution (above half the resolution of the lcd display).
video conversion speeds depends mainly on your video converting settings (format, bitrate, resolution, etc.) and your CPU power, not the software.. just fyi.
I am currently using xmedia recode.
I use the settings for the Motorola Milestone when converting, as for some reason the X10 settings mess the audio up.
Pretty quick, and audio/visual sync is spot on
It doesn't matter what to use.
for example, I convert films from my 720p/1080p hd collection, using parameters, such as 854x480 resolution, 160 kbit audio bitrate and 1000-1200 kbit video bitrate.
And it looks like I watch a real hd video! The picture is perfect! Enjoy
Oh, and I noticed, that it's better to use h264 codecs with *.mkv container than mpeg4 with .mp4 and .avi
RockPlayer is the best for my monster-like videos Avatar with 1200 video bitrate and near 2gb file size works without any lags. This is the power of nice program code (thx for RockPlayer devs) with the connection of Snapdragon processor
What is the best for playing movies? I plan to rip some from Dvds, and wondered what would play best. I am using Vegan 3. I dont know much about divx vs other codecs.
I use mp4 I have 22 video and they only take 20gb of space. I have heard of guys using .mov but I think it is a full 1080 few so it will probably use a lot more space. I think mp4 is only 720 capable
JoeMofknDot said:
I use mp4 I have 22 video and they only take 20gb of space. I have heard of guys using .mov but I think it is a full 1080 few so it will probably use a lot more space. I think mp4 is only 720 capable
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I want to convert some mkvs and some DVDs to mp4 for an up coming trip, has anyone used handbrake? If so what profile or preset are you using?
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I want to convert some mkvs and some DVDs to mp4 for an up coming trip, has anyone used handbrake? If so what profile or preset are you using?
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Handbrakes stock settings work fine for me I tried anyvideoconverter but converted files gave corrupt error
Depends on the source. DVD = standard video, so I would actually recommend Xvid in an AVI container. They play very nicely, plus it's a pretty standard format. And for problematic AC3 audio, you can use an app like Rockplayer. MKV also works nicely in Rockplayer. Or you can even encode to MP4 if you want iPod / iPad compatibility.
For High-Def, I would personally recommend MP4 (h263), only because h264 is so problematic. I use Handbrake and then alter the iPad Profile from h264 to MP4 (h263) and it works very nicely on our device. Yes, it's not "standard" so my files are really only for this device or my PC.
I'm not an expert on video formats or ripping/converting. However, I've spent the last couple of days (off and on) trying to find the best way to get vids on the gTab. As of this morning, the best option I've found is using Pazera. I used the "Video to iPod" converter with the following settings:
Output file format
MP4 (MPEG-4/AAC)
Bitrate: 1000 kbit/s
FPS: 30
Audio - Left it in "Auto"
Advanced Settings
Resolution: 1280 x 720 - HD720
The quality looks really good. No issues with the audio either. My only problem is the file size is 1.2GB. The vid I converted was 2 1/2 hours but I still think I want the file size around 500 to 700MB. I'm going to adjust the settings some more and see if I can find the balance between video quality and file size. It just takes an hour or so to convert it so this may take a few days.
I hope this is helpful to everyone. If anyone else has any experience with Pazera and can recommend good settings, I'm all ears!
Sly Soft's AnyDVD to rip and them AnyDVDMobile to convert (I use ipad's default settings on the mobile conversion and they work great - I use those settings b/c I my kids use the same rips for the ipod touch and it comes out as something they all can use (rather than keeping multiple copies for each device).
I have been using this to convert HD video into something the hardware decoder can play without issue:
Code:
INPUT="My_movie.mkv"
OUTPUT="My_movie-gtab.mp4"
ABITRATE=64k
VBITRATE=1500k
RESIZETO="-s 1024x576"
ffmpeg -strict experimental -y -i $INPUT -f mp4 $RESIZETO -vcodec libx264 \
-vpre default -vpre ipod640 -acodec aac -ab $ABITRATE \
-ac 2 -b $VBITRATE -threads 0 $OUTPUT
1000k for the video bitrate would net you about 480M/hour, with 1500k at about 700M/hour (which is fine by me).
The RESIZETO will work for 720p and 1080p content as it's resizing for the longer width. If you have SD content (DVDs) just comment out the RESIZETO. If you have something that is anamorphic (check ffmpeg -i $FILENAME) you will need to do your own math, or just leave it and up the bitrate. A good rule of thumb for high quality is:
0.14 * Height * Width * frames/sec
So 0.14 * 576 * 1024 * 29.97 = 2477260bps, or ~ 2500k, about 1.1G/hour
adjusting the number downward will reduce quality, but it's a choice between video quality and size at this point.
I have tested this with a few videos (Big Buck Bunny, originally 1080p content) and with some 720p videos. 1500k worked out really well.
Great info ckelly33 and ckelly. I'm starting to think the question is more on "what are the acceptable formats". Everyone is different and the output they are looking for is just as different. I'm still trying for 500 to 700MB.
I tried again and I think I've got it like I want it. Need to test it some more. On the last conversion I noticed a button for max file size. That got me right where I want to be!
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Great info ckelly33 and ckelly. I'm starting to think the question is more on "what are the acceptable formats". Everyone is different and the output they are looking for is just as different. I'm still trying for 500 to 700MB.
I tried again and I think I've got it like I want it. Need to test it some more. On the last conversion I noticed a button for max file size. That got me right where I want to be!
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So far, It has accepted mp4 and avi containers (I prefer mp4), as well as mp3/aac for audio and h.264(main profile). Reports from roebeet says h.263 works as well. I have not tested xvid yet. I had issues with ac3 audio, so I don't think it supports that.
Of all of those, h.264 is a very very high quality codec, so I would recommend trying to use h.264/aac for encoding if at all possible.
Hello everybody
I would like to know what are the best setting to encode video without lag and the best quality (Resolution, bitrate, frame...)
Thanks in advance and sorry for my bad english
Check this thread out for Handbrake presets. Works good for me.
ok i will try , thanks
I went with the settings in the handbrake thread also, except instead of setting the thing to constant quality 20, i varied the average bitrate instead. Its a little extra work but i look at the bitrate of the source material and go anywhere from 2500 up to 10000kbps since i use a 32 gig card in my tablet as well as my dock.
For interrested person, I have encode a mkv to .avi hd 720p and i have a very good result, but there is only the app "dice player" which play it correctly with a very good quality and without lag.