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Hi,
I always have long and complicated questions to ask, so I usually don't get much help, probably cause I'm Canadian
I have Bell Sensation 4G. It operates on HSPA+ from what I understand. It's a "sort of" 4G.
Anyways, when I run ICS ARHD, I get H symbol. Yes, I've talked about this topic a lot, but in other aspects. Now I'm just curious about the other phones in US, and if I am actually connected to "4G" networks.
What I want to get to the bottom of is I see mentions a lot of the T-Mobile 4G sensation. Is this specifically because all other Sensations on other US carriers are not 4G capable? Or are every one of them exactly the same, and operate on the same network type (HSPA+)? Essentially making them all the exact same networks and speeds as my Bell unit?
The reason I ask is I'm pissing around with the H, H+, 4G, etc. png icon files in the "systemUI.apk". Just trying to learn what's going on behind the scenes.
I note in there that the files are named as such
"H" icons are named as files like "stat_sys_data_connected_h.png".
"H+" icons are named as files like "stat_sys_data_connected_hplus.png".
Being that on ARHD, "H+" is never used. I am now wondering if I am even connected to HSPA+. I mean, if US carriers other than TMO don't use HSPA+ then that would be reasonable that the standard US based ROM isn't setup to properly connect to the Canadian network? The icon files are there, but they are not being used, so is it because I am not on 4G, because other US phones dont get 4G? Flashing the TMO option gives me the same thing, so maybe because our networks are different?
I understand that there is a mod to switch the TMO version to "4G" icon. But is that simply switching the icon names? Yeah cool I can do that and give myself "H+" icons to make myself happy, but I'd really just like to know if I am even connected to the proper network speeds, and it all has something to do with the radio version and ROM. (afterall, I did fix my 350ms PING to Speedtest.net by flashing stock Bell RUU, so it further makes me think I am not on correct network speeds, rather than just an icon issue)
If you're asking if you're still getting 4g, yes you are.... That is if your phone is capable of 4g... I have tmo sensation 4g and have the H icon... The speed is the same.... No changes at all... I can flash the 4g icon but decided not to... H don't bother me at all since there are no changes in the speed... Sorry if I misunderstand your question in any way, it was just too long to read and I'm getting cross eyed
Some phones in the US don't have 4g capabilities... Usually the older once...
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I know it's too long to read but I don't know how else to explain it, and make it shorter. I just am wondering if T-Mobile 4G HSPA+ is exactly the same as Bell 4G HSPA+?
Put it this way...with ARHD 6.5.x ICS, am I getting the same 4G as I would be with the stock Bell Canada RUU? Everything seems centered around T-Mo 4G, nobody ever talks about Bell 4G!
In my opinion, it depends how strong hspa in your area... I don't think Rom or the phone matters, as long as it can accept hspa signals.... It might matter with the radio thoughh... Don't worry about the long explanation, it was just me thats the problem ...
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I have seen so many posts and threads here saying H icon is for 4g connection. I am from UK we don't have 4g yet its all 3g still my sensation shows me H icon. On my old Nokia n97 it was showing 3.5g ? It's really confusing.
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The connection that we call 4g ( atleast with tmo) is actually 3.5g. I'm not sure with the LTE technology though....
There's three different 4g types, fastest is LTE then hspa and last WiMAX.... So when you see H its considered 4g as for hspa
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T-Mo doesn't even have much of any hspa+ in the first place... if you look in network settings on the phone, it almost always says hsdpa and never hspa+... along with hspa+ not even being close to 4G.
I came across this when trying to make sure I am doing it right. When installing ARHD it asks if I have a tmobile sensation 4g - I have an unlocked Bell/Virgin Mobile one and have been hitting yes. It seems to work okay, but should I be saying yes to that, or no, because it is a Bell/Virgin one with different bands? Is it just to get the graphical band display? Does it have any impact on performance or the radio?
I currently have a epic touch 4g from sprint and dont get me wrong its a "good" phone but coming from a htc evo 4g it seems that my evo was way faster then my gs2. It could just be sprint slacking on my service but its a noticable lag. Now the evo lte seems appealing to me but was thinking is it worth it?
I max out around 2Mbps down
I am on a grandfathered BB data plan, but I have a brand new 4g sim. I've always been able to get HSPA, even with my old 3g sim.
I called in to AT&T and said whats up? They pulled up my imei (matches), but says it's a 2g device. WTH? I'm connected to HSDPA:9 all day errday.
This phone is rare enough here that I haven't found a current, useful thread about this issue.
When I had an iPhone on T-Mobile it wasn't able to get ANYTHING over 2G, meaning 3G. I had a 3GS though so I don't know about the HSPD... All I know is ATT's 3G band is diff from T-Mobiles and so you CANNOT get 3G using one carrier's phone on another network when it comes to these two. I'm not too sure about HSPD but.. It might be the same? You said you've been getting HSPD though so... Not sure.
Well sensation are not 4g devices they are 3g but they can reach 4g like speeds depending on the location
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Ooooooooooooh. That makes sense.
Although, it's hard to know when 3g ends and 4g begins:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7893188&postcount=10
jslim38 said:
Well sensation are not 4g devices they are 3g but they can reach 4g like speeds depending on the location
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That's kind of not true.
LTE, HSPA+, and WiMax define 4G. The Sensation has HSPA+, meaning it's a 4G device. Here's a google I did:
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/12/hspa-now-officially-4g-according-to-itu/
sshede said:
The Sensation has HSPA+
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Does it? Or doesn't it? Cause I'm saying mine doesn't when I assumed that it does.
Internet searches aren't going to help me, I'm afraid. There's too much conflicting opinion. There's already conflicting opinion in here lol.
But if there's somebody else out there, who has a z710a on ATT we can put this to bed right quick.
It's a beefed up 3g network and they will not spend the money to get true 4g
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That's is true but if you want the truth then take a look at at&t and the one x in order for it to run on at&t network they had to dail it back because of the tegra3 doesn't run on AT&T network so they say
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T-Mobile sensation doesn't have the neccessary bands for hspa+ on att, only a Canadian sensation has the correct bands that work on att
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vgrntbeauxner said:
I'm connected to HSDPA:9 all day errday.
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How do you tell your hsdpa category?
yahhboy said:
T-Mobile sensation doesn't have the neccessary bands for hspa+ on att, only a Canadian sensation has the correct bands that work on att
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z710a is canadian sensation, thx.
ziddey said:
How do you tell your hsdpa category?
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For ICS: System settings>About phone>Status then look at 'mobile network type.'
vgrntbeauxner said:
z710a is canadian sensation, thx.
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My bad...
Sent from my sensational sensation 4g
vgrntbeauxner said:
For ICS: System settings>About phone>Status then look at 'mobile network type.'
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hmm mine just says hsdpa
thats the same as me. how fast is your downlink?
I GOT 4.6MBPS LASTNIGHT!
I am using the Bell Sensation on AT&T in Northern California. I average between 3 and 4 mb/s down, depending on what part of town I am in and the time of day it is. Phone signal shows me connected to H+
gbarayah said:
I am using the Bell Sensation on AT&T in Northern California. I average between 3 and 4 mb/s down, depending on what part of town I am in and the time of day it is. Phone signal shows me connected to H+
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Are you on a GB ROM? I don't know if there is an H+ icon on CM9, but there was one (supposedly) on CM7...
I'm running an ICS ROM that has been discontinued. HyperNonSense by Kristof, very minimalist but one of the smoothest ROMs I have ever used on any device. Patiently waiting for CM9 stable.
I'm not 100% positive, but I want to say that I was seeing an H+ icon on Gingerbread ROMs as well.
gbarayah said:
I'm running an ICS ROM that has been discontinued. HyperNonSense by Kristof, very minimalist but one of the smoothest ROMs I have ever used on any device. Patiently waiting for CM9 stable.
I'm not 100% positive, but I want to say that I was seeing an H+ icon on Gingerbread ROMs as well.
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All right, that's good info thanks.
btw, I've run CM9 nightlies and opensensation and they're both really stable, fwiw.
Which roms show the hsdpa category? Is it only gb roms? With ARHD, it only shows HSDPA, no :cat
The symbol is really irrelelvant. If you want to know if you are connected to H+, go to settings > about phone > status and see what it says under Mobile Network Type.
If you are connected to H+ it should read HSDPA.
I know this is a repost, but can someone direct me to the thread on how to fix this?
Sure
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1850917
el_smurfo said:
Sure
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1850917
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I felt dumb. I still have the same speeds as 4g, but it says 3g
mikennite said:
I felt dumb. I still have the same speeds as 4g, but it says 3g
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That's a known issue with sense 4.1 Roms. I'm.using viper one s 1.1.1 and it has a g icon for 4g.
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htc one s 4g
I have the HTC one s 4g running the newest viperone Rom and I don't see it having 4g.
I looked up the specs for the phone and it says it doesn't support 4g on tmobile but I keep seeing forums with people saying they have 4g.
What do I have to do to have 4g? I have a new micro sim that should support it.
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I have the HTC one s 4g running the newest viperone Rom and I don't see it having 4g.
I looked up the specs for the phone and it says it doesn't support 4g on tmobile but I keep seeing forums with people saying they have 4g.
What do I have to do to have 4g? I have a new micro sim that should support it.
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the rom is not the one that controls the data speeds or 3g or 4g, the radio is, our phone is quad-band and suport T mobile and att networks.
lte is not suported, beside thath all the other networks like. 4g,3g,2g,edge,g, are supoerted.
what the rom does not suport is the data icons, since the venom 2.0.0 base is not from T Mobile Us and is from some kind of rare network in Europe,, 4g icon is not suported, phone will be most of the time in 3g and h icon.
but your data speeds will be the same as 4g, since only the icon is not present in the rom.
Hello everyone! So I was wondering if there was a way my HTC one s (s4 version) can get 4g or not? I live in the UK and I'm on giffgaff, but I checked on willmyphonework.com and it doesn't say it works there on any carrier, but on YouTube a few people have 4g on their HTC one s!
Any ideas? Thanks
It doesn't support 4G LTE, which is probably what you'd be after. It does do HSPA+, which is (or was) sometimes considered 4G (it's not a rigid term; "4G" just means "4th generation"), but it's nowhere near as speedy as LTE. Basically, HSPA+ is a souped up HSPA, so it is a bit faster than top-speed 3G, but LTE is a different standard that's based on different technology.