I max out around 2Mbps down
I am on a grandfathered BB data plan, but I have a brand new 4g sim. I've always been able to get HSPA, even with my old 3g sim.
I called in to AT&T and said whats up? They pulled up my imei (matches), but says it's a 2g device. WTH? I'm connected to HSDPA:9 all day errday.
This phone is rare enough here that I haven't found a current, useful thread about this issue.
When I had an iPhone on T-Mobile it wasn't able to get ANYTHING over 2G, meaning 3G. I had a 3GS though so I don't know about the HSPD... All I know is ATT's 3G band is diff from T-Mobiles and so you CANNOT get 3G using one carrier's phone on another network when it comes to these two. I'm not too sure about HSPD but.. It might be the same? You said you've been getting HSPD though so... Not sure.
Well sensation are not 4g devices they are 3g but they can reach 4g like speeds depending on the location
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Ooooooooooooh. That makes sense.
Although, it's hard to know when 3g ends and 4g begins:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7893188&postcount=10
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Well sensation are not 4g devices they are 3g but they can reach 4g like speeds depending on the location
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That's kind of not true.
LTE, HSPA+, and WiMax define 4G. The Sensation has HSPA+, meaning it's a 4G device. Here's a google I did:
http://www.tmonews.com/2010/12/hspa-now-officially-4g-according-to-itu/
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The Sensation has HSPA+
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Does it? Or doesn't it? Cause I'm saying mine doesn't when I assumed that it does.
Internet searches aren't going to help me, I'm afraid. There's too much conflicting opinion. There's already conflicting opinion in here lol.
But if there's somebody else out there, who has a z710a on ATT we can put this to bed right quick.
It's a beefed up 3g network and they will not spend the money to get true 4g
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That's is true but if you want the truth then take a look at at&t and the one x in order for it to run on at&t network they had to dail it back because of the tegra3 doesn't run on AT&T network so they say
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T-Mobile sensation doesn't have the neccessary bands for hspa+ on att, only a Canadian sensation has the correct bands that work on att
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vgrntbeauxner said:
I'm connected to HSDPA:9 all day errday.
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How do you tell your hsdpa category?
yahhboy said:
T-Mobile sensation doesn't have the neccessary bands for hspa+ on att, only a Canadian sensation has the correct bands that work on att
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z710a is canadian sensation, thx.
ziddey said:
How do you tell your hsdpa category?
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For ICS: System settings>About phone>Status then look at 'mobile network type.'
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z710a is canadian sensation, thx.
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My bad...
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For ICS: System settings>About phone>Status then look at 'mobile network type.'
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hmm mine just says hsdpa
thats the same as me. how fast is your downlink?
I GOT 4.6MBPS LASTNIGHT!
I am using the Bell Sensation on AT&T in Northern California. I average between 3 and 4 mb/s down, depending on what part of town I am in and the time of day it is. Phone signal shows me connected to H+
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I am using the Bell Sensation on AT&T in Northern California. I average between 3 and 4 mb/s down, depending on what part of town I am in and the time of day it is. Phone signal shows me connected to H+
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Are you on a GB ROM? I don't know if there is an H+ icon on CM9, but there was one (supposedly) on CM7...
I'm running an ICS ROM that has been discontinued. HyperNonSense by Kristof, very minimalist but one of the smoothest ROMs I have ever used on any device. Patiently waiting for CM9 stable.
I'm not 100% positive, but I want to say that I was seeing an H+ icon on Gingerbread ROMs as well.
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I'm running an ICS ROM that has been discontinued. HyperNonSense by Kristof, very minimalist but one of the smoothest ROMs I have ever used on any device. Patiently waiting for CM9 stable.
I'm not 100% positive, but I want to say that I was seeing an H+ icon on Gingerbread ROMs as well.
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All right, that's good info thanks.
btw, I've run CM9 nightlies and opensensation and they're both really stable, fwiw.
Which roms show the hsdpa category? Is it only gb roms? With ARHD, it only shows HSDPA, no :cat
The symbol is really irrelelvant. If you want to know if you are connected to H+, go to settings > about phone > status and see what it says under Mobile Network Type.
If you are connected to H+ it should read HSDPA.
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I am pretty sure it will only be 2G but just wanted to check...
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I am pretty sure it will only be 2G but just wanted to check...
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they will NEVER release a T-Mobile branded phone that will work on both 3G networks before the merger is complete. There is a HTC Sensation that will be released in Canada that will have the same bands as AT&T so you might want to check that one.
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they will NEVER release a T-Mobile branded phone that will work on both 3G networks before the merger is complete. There is a HTC Sensation that will be released in Canada that will have the same bands as AT&T so you might want to check that one.
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Well the Samsung Vibrant works on AT&T 3G...
aNYthing24 said:
Well the Samsung Vibrant works on AT&T 3G...
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vibrant works on at&t EDGE not 3g/4g
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vibrant works on at&t EDGE not 3g/4g
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Well i have 3g speeds on Att with my vibrant ... Guess the speed test are lying to me
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If you are in an area that supports AT&T's 1900MHz frequency for 3G, you may me able to get 3G speeds on AT&T with an unlocked Sensation 4G. At least according to the box the phone supports the 1900MHz frequency. No one has reported using an unlocked Sensation 4G on AT&T's network yet, as far as I know.
Yes it
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vibrant works on at&t EDGE not 3g/4g
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The vibrant definitely gets 3g on at&t. I have an unlocked vibrant in loui
sville and it almost never goes to edge. Google it and see the bands for the vibrant. Its a well known fact.
The top icon says "4g" yet in my internet settings it says wcdma not hspa or anything like that. Does this mean it isn't 4g??
I'm assuming you are looking under Mobile Network Setting > Network Mode. If that is in fact what your are referring to, then you have nothing to worry about. What you are seeing in the type of connection the phone is using to connect to the network. GSM is the network T-Mobile and AT&T uses (SIM card), and CDMA is what Verizon and Sprint uses (old technology). If you are getting the 4G icon on your status bar, then you are connected at 4G speeds.
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Thank you, question tho i'm always either on 4g or edge, why? I love the 4g speeds but why no 3g? I never see the icon read 3g?
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same here always 4g or edge. No 3g
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From time to time you may see G (3G), or the slowest speed 2G (Edge), and this just means the signal is fluctuating from the available connection speeds in your area, this is normal. You will never just get 4G all the time, it will go in and out. Your phones are doing what they are supposed to do. And be aware some areas have no 4G at all.
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the reason why you are not seeing 3g is cause the 3g icon has been replaced by 4g. cause technically there is no 4g yet. its a marketing ploy to get more people to buy new phones. dont get me wrong cause its not really 3g you are connected to its more like 3.5g.
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From time to time you may see G (3G), or the slowest speed 2G (Edge),
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Have to correct you on this, G = GPRS, E = Edge (2G).
Divine flaw said:
the reason why you are not seeing 3g is cause the 3g icon has been replaced by 4g. cause technically there is no 4g yet. its a marketing ploy to get more people to buy new phones. dont get me wrong cause its not really 3g you are connected to its more like 3.5g.
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this guy is correct. if you really want to know what connection you have you can swap out the icons for your data connectivity or install Elixir & look at what it says there. If you're connected to 3G it'll say UTMS & it'll say HSPA for 4G/HSPA
Divine flaw said:
the reason why you are not seeing 3g is cause the 3g icon has been replaced by 4g. cause technically there is no 4g yet. its a marketing ploy to get more people to buy new phones. dont get me wrong cause its not really 3g you are connected to its more like 3.5g.
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Damn I knew some **** like this was up. any idea when real 4g will be out
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nbochoa said:
Damn I knew some **** like this was up. any idea when real 4g will be out
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No one has finished deploying faux G networks and no real 4G phones are being sold. I imagine it will take 5-10 years for true 4G to be available in more than a few small markets. It just doesn't make financial sense for service providers to replace/upgrade equipment over and over again in a short timeframe.
So me having a sensation would mean what I have is the fastest I can get or would changing my ROM help me get the "42 mbps" t mobile claims to have.
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No one has finished deploying faux G networks and no real 4G phones are being sold. I imagine it will take 5-10 years for true 4G to be available in more than a few small markets. It just doesn't make financial sense for service providers to replace/upgrade equipment over and over again in a short timeframe.
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I dunno, one could say LTE is 4G.
lianw said:
I dunno, one could say LTE is 4G.
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So the Verizon lte is faster than hspa+
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nbochoa said:
So the Verizon lte is faster than hspa+
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Higher theoretical higher throughput performance. Real-world results are of course, different.
It all depends on the area (population density, etc) as well as the quality of the network infrastructure.
Here are some results:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/4G-s...e-holds-the-fort-in-smartphone-speeds_id17405
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So me having a sensation would mean what I have is the fastest I can get or would changing my ROM help me get the "42 mbps" t mobile claims to have.
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The Sensation is not capable of achieving that speed. It's a hardware limitation, not software.
It's quasi-impossible to obtain the full theoretical maximum speed a network provider advertises.
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So me having a sensation would mean what I have is the fastest I can get or would changing my ROM help me get the "42 mbps" t mobile claims to have.
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Max "theoretical" speed is 14.4mb. Speeds vary by location.
I can't get above 2 or 3, MAYBE 4 mbps on a good day, not sure why. I got 3 or 4mbps regularly on my old mytouch 3g slide using the HSPA network, I figured HSPA+ would be faster, not slower, but I have yet to pinpoint my problem. I was expecting a good 5-8 at least, but oh well.
As for Verizon's LTE, it's still not technically 4G. 4G is TECHNICALLY required to have a theoretical maximum output of 1 GBPS, of course, nothing would be able to achieve that initially, but that is the required theoretical maximum for 4G specifications. But there's nothing they can do about companies claiming 4G. Although what can they really do, they've already sucked the 3G term dry, and it's kind of a stupid marketing campaign to say 3.75G or HSPA+, it's easier for the vast majority of technologically incompetent Americans to understand if they just say 4G. But just wait for when the mass confusion ensues when real 4G does really get invented, then everyone's going to say "I thought that was 4G before! What's this 4G? We'll call it 5G!"
It'll be an endless cycle of marketing ploys.
Divine flaw said:
the reason why you are not seeing 3g is cause the 3g icon has been replaced by 4g. cause technically there is no 4g yet. its a marketing ploy to get more people to buy new phones. dont get me wrong cause its not really 3g you are connected to its more like 3.5g.
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Not entirely true, I do get a "G" symbol from time to time out her in San Diego when I am on the stock ROM, which "G" is 3G. There is a difference between the 3 bands, and 4G is much faster when you do get it.
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Not entirely true, I do get a "G" symbol from time to time out her in San Diego when I am on the stock ROM, which "G" is 3G. There is a difference between the 3 bands, and 4G is much faster when you do get it.
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Uh no, if you get just a G then you're on GPRS & that is slower than EDGE.
If you're on a stock Tmobile US ROM you will never see 3G since they disabled it from showing.
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Not entirely true, I do get a "G" symbol from time to time out her in San Diego when I am on the stock ROM, which "G" is 3G. There is a difference between the 3 bands, and 4G is much faster when you do get it.
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thats funny..... g =gprs not 3g. think of it as 1g. and yes i do get a g signal every time i head down to the dungeon at work and i cant for the life of me connect to the internet. even on my old phone which was an hd2 i would get a g signal if im down in the dungeon. but guess what that phone had a 3g icon and when im not in the dungeon i was connected to a 3g network cause my phone had that icon. if you are telling me this g signal is 3g than im sorry your wrong.
OK, I am running stock Cm7
and its good.. not great.. but good.
screen timeouts seem to be ignored in the settings.. or I cant figureout how to get them to work.
With the data indicator at the top.. is H good? or is that 2g? I used to get a 3g indicator .. now with cm7 all I am getting is an H. I never see the 3g anymore.
SO.. am I having an issue with data connection? or is H just different then stock firmware where i used to get a 3G indicator.
James
H = high speed 3G. T-Mobile calls it 4g
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H = high speed 3G. T-Mobile calls it 4g
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No, H is HSDPA, which is 3G. What T-Mobile, and a few other companies, 4G is HSDPA+ which will show a 4G indicator on your phone. I don't get why T-mobile gets flak for their 4G, no one else in America has real 4G, and I still get over 8 MBPS on my G2x, higher on my SGS2.
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No, H is HSDPA, which is 3G. What T-Mobile, and a few other companies, 4G is HSDPA+ which will show a 4G indicator on your phone. I don't get why T-mobile gets flak for their 4G, no one else in America has real 4G, and I still get over 8 MBPS on my G2x, higher on my SGS2.
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Alright so anytime I use cm7 i get H and not 4G i live in the DC area, within the 4g range. what can I change to get actual 4g?
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Alright so anytime I use cm7 i get H and not 4G i live in the DC area, within the 4g range. what can I change to get actual 4g?
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You can try flashing the new baseband if you havent done so already.
Time to come up to cm9 ics
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Id wait for official cm9, the betas are nice but meanwhile...
Theres this gb rom called hellfire phoenix 1.9 that will blow you away and make you forget any other rom ever installed
^true story!
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I was just wondering if there was a way to get T-Mobile's 4G Data speeds working on any custom ROM. If there is, how would I do so?
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I was just wondering if there was a way to get T-Mobile's 4G Data speeds working on any custom ROM. If there is, how would I do so?
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Tmobile's 4G Data already works on custom roms, out of the box.
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Tmobile's 4G Data already works on custom roms, out of the box.
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excuse me, this mean that htc one s support lte? O_O the european version too?
Nope
T-MobileUS HTC One S
RockLee91 said:
excuse me, this mean that htc one s support lte? O_O the european version too?
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I think "4G" on TMobUS is just what everyone else calls H+, or "3G" in the UK.
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excuse me, this mean that htc one s support lte? O_O the european version too?
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tmobile 4g (usa) is the same as (eu) 3g/H.
naming it 4G is just marketing bull****. (lte based and gsm based phones dont mix)
as far as i know there is only stil lte-advanced thats real 4G
those are all radio related not rom
i don't know if any do now, but in the near future there will be phones working on 4g and lte networks, meaning the radio will support those bands
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those are all radio related not rom
i don't know if any do now, but in the near future there will be phones working on 4g and lte networks, meaning the radio will support those bands
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I was under the impression LTE is 4G. It's only TMobile US who seem to classify HSDPA+ as 4G. Over here (In the UK) HSDPA+ is classed the same as 3G. Once we get LTE, they brand that 4G.
As far as I was aware, the One S is not 4G (LTE) capable.
S/he asked about Tmobile's 4G data speeds. Not if it was faux 4G or not.
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I was under the impression LTE is 4G. It's only TMobile US who seem to classify HSDPA+ as 4G. Over here (In the UK) HSDPA+ is classed the same as 3G. Once we get LTE, they brand that 4G.
As far as I was aware, the One S is not 4G (LTE) capable.
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TMobile advertises 4g now but has no lte. They say they are going to upgrade their back end to support lte. I assume that means they are different and are on different frequency bands.
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I was under the impression LTE is 4G. It's only TMobile US who seem to classify HSDPA+ as 4G. Over here (In the UK) HSDPA+ is classed the same as 3G. Once we get LTE, they brand that 4G.
As far as I was aware, the One S is not 4G (LTE) capable.
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Att is also doing this now.
But honestly, I don't care if I get 4G speeds on a 3g network I'm happy. I'll continue to pay my $30 a month.
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I know this is a repost, but can someone direct me to the thread on how to fix this?
Sure
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1850917
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Sure
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1850917
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I felt dumb. I still have the same speeds as 4g, but it says 3g
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I felt dumb. I still have the same speeds as 4g, but it says 3g
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That's a known issue with sense 4.1 Roms. I'm.using viper one s 1.1.1 and it has a g icon for 4g.
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htc one s 4g
I have the HTC one s 4g running the newest viperone Rom and I don't see it having 4g.
I looked up the specs for the phone and it says it doesn't support 4g on tmobile but I keep seeing forums with people saying they have 4g.
What do I have to do to have 4g? I have a new micro sim that should support it.
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I have the HTC one s 4g running the newest viperone Rom and I don't see it having 4g.
I looked up the specs for the phone and it says it doesn't support 4g on tmobile but I keep seeing forums with people saying they have 4g.
What do I have to do to have 4g? I have a new micro sim that should support it.
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the rom is not the one that controls the data speeds or 3g or 4g, the radio is, our phone is quad-band and suport T mobile and att networks.
lte is not suported, beside thath all the other networks like. 4g,3g,2g,edge,g, are supoerted.
what the rom does not suport is the data icons, since the venom 2.0.0 base is not from T Mobile Us and is from some kind of rare network in Europe,, 4g icon is not suported, phone will be most of the time in 3g and h icon.
but your data speeds will be the same as 4g, since only the icon is not present in the rom.