[Q] [XOOM 2] New owner questions - Xoom Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi guys,
Just purchased a XOOM 2 (due to its slicker and lighter design although XOOM 1 is better spec and cheaper but i like sexy things ! ) from Ebay and have a few questions:
1) I know official ICS is not available but is there a decent alternative ICS ROM for everyday use or is it better to wait for extremely slow Motorola?
2) My speakers seem quite tinny and in fact i can feel one of the speakers through back of the case...is this normal or have i got a faulty unit?
3) Warranty - i don't have the original receipt but after checking on Moto website my device is still under warranty...will they repair it without the receipt, anybody got any experience?
4) I'm after some accessories such case, stylus, screen protector, dock or anything else that's out there worth having..I'd be grateful for any recommendations please as i normally end up buying three or four different sets to find out the best?
Thanks in advance....ash
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To my knowledge, Xoom 2 doesn't yet have any development. It is different hardware than the OG Xoom, so roms developed for the OG Xoom won't work for Xoom2.
I can't answer other questions. Good luck and enjoy your (admittedly sexy) new Xoom2.

I agree, I think stock rooted is about as far as one can get on the XOOM 2.
As for warranty, I was able to send my Xoom Wifi (not xoom2) for warranty repair without my receipt if my memory serves me correct, because my sdcard slot was physically defective (took lots of effort to take sdcard out). The key for me was to go on the Motorola website and seek warranty help from there.

Thanks for your replies much appreciated...one question still remains of the speaker sound...mine sounds quite tinny and i can feel one of the speakers through the casing..is this normal or possibly faulty?
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mchu6am4 said:
Thanks for your replies much appreciated...one question still remains of the speaker sound...mine sounds quite tinny and i can feel one of the speakers through the casing..is this normal or possibly faulty?
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I guess it depends; does it vibrate when the volume is maxed out? If it does, it should be fine to have a tiny bit of vibration (not too harsh), but if it seems like it is too harsh, you might want to look into that.
If you do want to look into that, perhaps you could go to a Verizon store/kiosk (or if you're not in the US, a similar store/kiosk) and ask a rep to try playing something loud on another Xoom 2 to see if you notice the same vibration. From there you could compare your Xoom to the store's.

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[Q] potential Sensation user-Critical question. To buy or not to buy?

Hello to everybody in the communtity!
I am interested in buying this device. However, after spending 2 hours reading through the touch screen responsiveness problem in the Sensation General thread, I became hesitant and skeptic to purchase it. Can you say anything that will alleviate and mitigate my fears? Is it safe to buy 100% or will I have to replace it after a month or so? Do I have to ask the seller for a specific model that does not have the aforementioned issues?
Thank you in advance for aiding me in the quest to replace my crappy Samsung Omnia which I solemnly detest
Well I use to have the problem but only sometimes when swyping screens.I no longer have it and had totaly forgotten about it I doubt the problem is still present in new batches. But my phone is very responsive now
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Is it because you used some kind of fix for the screen, or it just magically disappeared?
even if there is 10% chance I get the problem it's a no-deal for me. I cannot invest that much money to a flagship top-tier phone if it instantly malfunctions... Can anybody else alleviate my concerns?
Its a great phone. If by chance you do end up in the 10 percent their is a fix on the forums some where you just have to do a search. I would say get the phone from the support in these forums.
32 custom built roms and counting. Noob proof step by step rooting and unlocking. Uncountable ways to modify the phone. Every phone has its problems, but I can honestly say that I haven't found a problem that didn't have a fix on these forums.
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HJ nan said:
even if there is 10% chance I get the problem it's a no-deal for me. I cannot invest that much money to a flagship top-tier phone if it instantly malfunctions... Can anybody else alleviate my concerns?
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Tell them you want try out the phone you want to buy before you pay for it.
I never suffered any kind of problem from the screen being unresponsive, but the only problem (if you wish to call it a problem, in my case it's not) is the slightly weak WiFi signal, if I am 2 rooms away from the router the signal drop significantly, and there is creaking on the bottom right of the phone other than that the phone is perfect, most ppl changed their back cover and the creaking sound was gone.
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Tell them you want try out the phone you want to buy before you pay for it.
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Yes but the reports on the touchscreen issue mention that it starts occurring after a week or so
Any further feedback?? I am looking for a reliable handset... should I go to an alternate device?
Brilliant device, didn't have any problems with it.
I was also sceptic, but when i bought it, all my prejudices disappeard..
HJ nan said:
even if there is 10% chance I get the problem it's a no-deal for me. I cannot invest that much money to a flagship top-tier phone if it instantly malfunctions... Can anybody else alleviate my concerns?
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its a risk one has to take mate,
i know a few of my friends have to return their iPhone4 due to various hardware defects.
nothing is perfect in the smartphone world sadly
but it makes our life easier with a community such as XDA
so welcome
My advice...Buy! Or go and read at the Samsung Galaxy S2 tread and read about that phone...you only read the negative items/ problems here...
About every phone you can read tons of info, at the end of the day you will be confused which phone to buy as they all suffer from little probems.
There are a lot of Sensation owners out there who are happy with their phone and dont have problems with it...I am one of them!
Have my sensation almost 4 weeks now...its rooted, S-off and I got rid of the Orange rom!
As already stated in this tread, if you have problems with your device you will find a solution here at XDA...
No problems here either, had since June no issues at all. Great phone.
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Any further feedback?? I am looking for a reliable handset... should I go to an alternate device?
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If the WiFi weakness gonna be a problem for you then I suggest another handset if not then sensation got all u r looking and hoping for
Great phone coming from a G2x and I'm really happy with my Sensation.
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You shouldn't buy it because as technology goes something always comes out better a month later. I haven't had problems and I think it's a excellent phone but you should look for what's about to come out next.
You do know you get a one year manufacturers warranty with a new phone, right?
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Jedi2011 said:
You do know you get a one year manufacturers warranty with a new phone, right?
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Yeah I guess there is warranty but I read that HTC does not recognize that problem. And even then, in Greece HTC service is not that good with a single service center in the whole country and huge delays in product replacement...
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Yeah I guess there is warranty but I read that HTC does not recognize that problem. And even then, in Greece HTC service is not that good with a single service center in the whole country and huge delays in product replacement...
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I would say do not buy the HTC Sensation.
It has to many serious flaws/issues for a flagship phone and yes, in my opinion the issues on the Sensation is more frequent then on other models.
I read alot in here and also among Swedish Android forums and I've owned not less than 3 faulty Sensations in about a weeks time till I gave up and asked for a refund instead. The Sensation is a sloppy job from HTC in mine (and MANY others) opinion.
The biggest issues seems to be:
1. Dust under the screen (one of mine was switched because of that. Appeared after about 2 days of use. In an office enviroment.)
2. Unresponsive touchscreen issues/Grounding problems.
3. A battery cover that does'nt fit the phone to well. Makes creaking sounds and makes the vibrator sound like a dying cat (one of mine had that one to). And seriously? Who in the world want to use a "fix" (read: put a folded post-it note between the phone and the cover to make it tighter) on there 4-500$ phone!
4. Issues with the hardware buttons, loose, unresponsive etc. (Had that one aswell. The volumerocker almost fell off)
5. The "wifi-deathgrip". This one I've never experienced!
6. Bad microphone/s and/or crackling speaker. An big issue amongst many it seems.
Ok so there you have my opinion
Trust me, I TRIED to love the Sensation. I've ALWAYS liked HTC phones. But this time, for a flagship phone, I think they've messed up.
Every phone has it's problems, thats for sure though. It just seems to me that the Sensation has a higher frequency in there troubles with this specifik phone and I just don't have time for homemade fixes, returning device after device etc. Especially not for a newer phone as expensive as this one.
For a phone that lives on it's "well built" reputation, I demand more. Sure the Sensation FEELS well built and sturdy, but thats just the feeling. The whole "uni" design just seems to vulnarable......
Well atleast now you got another opinion!
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I would say do not buy the HTC Sensation.
It has to many serious flaws/issues for a flagship phone and yes, in my opinion the issues on the Sensation is more frequent then on other models.
I read alot in here and also among Swedish Android forums and I've owned not less than 3 faulty Sensations in about a weeks time till I gave up and asked for a refund instead. The Sensation is a sloppy job from HTC in mine (and MANY others) opinion.
The biggest issues seems to be:
1. Dust under the screen (one of mine was switched because of that. Appeared after about 2 days of use. In an office enviroment.)
2. Unresponsive touchscreen issues/Grounding problems.
3. A battery cover that does'nt fit the phone to well. Makes creaking sounds and makes the vibrator sound like a dying cat (one of mine had that one to). And seriously? Who in the world want to use a "fix" (read: put a folded post-it note between the phone and the cover to make it tighter) on there 4-500$ phone!
4. Issues with the hardware buttons, loose, unresponsive etc. (Had that one aswell. The volumerocker almost fell off)
5. The "wifi-deathgrip". This one I've never experienced!
6. Bad microphone/s and/or crackling speaker. An big issue amongst many it seems.
Ok so there you have my opinion
Trust me, I TRIED to love the Sensation. I've ALWAYS liked HTC phones. But this time, for a flagship phone, I think they've messed up.
Every phone has it's problems, thats for sure though. It just seems to me that the Sensation has a higher frequency in there troubles with this specifik phone and I just don't have time for homemade fixes, returning device after device etc. Especially not for a newer phone as expensive as this one.
For a phone that lives on it's "well built" reputation, I demand more. Sure the Sensation FEELS well built and sturdy, but thats just the feeling. The whole "uni" design just seems to vulnarable......
Well atleast now you got another opinion!
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What phone do you use now Aja?
Thanks to everybody for their useful responses and their sincerity! Keep 'em coming...

Buying a used TF-700 - things to check

Hello,
I'm looking at buying a TF-700 and there is a guy near me that is selling a used one with the dock for a good price. He only used it for a couple weeks and then switched to something else.
I've been doing a fair bit of reading on them and it seems like there are several build quality issues, but it can be hit and miss.
My questions are:
What are some of the trouble areas that I should be looking for? Light bleeds, loose screen, etc.
How do I check if the bootloader has been unlocked? Will it show "unlocked" while booting?
Thanks for your time.
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When you first turn on the tablet there would be small text on the top left corner saying "this device is unlocked". It appears for about 5 seconds.
bytesailor said:
Hello,
I'm looking at buying a TF-700 and there is a guy near me that is selling a used one with the dock for a good price. He only used it for a couple weeks and then switched to something else.
I've been doing a fair bit of reading on them and it seems like there are several build quality issues, but it can be hit and miss.
My questions are:
What are some of the trouble areas that I should be looking for? Light bleeds, loose screen, etc.
How do I check if the bootloader has been unlocked? Will it show "unlocked" while booting?
Thanks for your time.
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I'd be wary due to the fact it hasn't been out that long, and it probably *is* affected by some issue. This guy paid the premium price and now wants to get rid of it? Mmmmhh....
The I/O issue is not something you have to check for -- all units seem to have it, though not all users notice or care.
Light bleeds might be annoying, although I'm not sure I'd send a device back to manufacturer for it. Loose screen would be a definite turn-down, because it seems it carries a relatively high chance of getting worse in time and possibly leads to cracked screens. Bad idea.
Obviously, any signs of heavier use, or being battered (like scratches and dents), and try and check WiFi reception as well -- there are not that much reports on it being really bad, but it might be an issue in isolated cases.
When you get to check the device, reboot it (press the power button and choose Power Off, then press it again after the vibration). Check the upper left corner -- it should say "The Device is Unlocked" if it is.
If it is not, you have a decision to make, since that either means that 1) the original owner never tried to unlock (main question: what firmware is it on? Can it receive OTAs? Is he OK with you trying to unlock?) or 2) he did try to unlock but it didn't work out. The latter case poses no problem in itself *IF* you're not eyeing towards flashing a custom recovery and/or ROM -- the device is perfectly functional running a stock ROM and you can install the stock updates (e.g., to JB) anyway from uSD. It would preclude you from tinkering in-depth, however.
Hmm I have an assumption he might be selling you a TF201 if the price is really low. Familiarize yourself the differences between the 2 tablet, or you can check in settings>about tablet and look for Model number to confirm, should say "ASUS Transformer Pad TF700T". Happy shopping!
Cheers
My guess is...that it's a cheap sale because it's unlocked and it can't be returned for whatever reason.
Hard to say some people like me buy use for a few months then dump...
I'd be extremely cautious about handing out hard earned cash for someone else's junk.
It may have been dropped and fixed or it has some intermittent hardware bugs.
In the least get the original receipt with a date of original sale.
Look for a good S\N on the bottom of the tablet, all the original packaging, cables, working charger... etc.
Chances are even if it is a low price and pretty new you may be out of luck with any warranty.
Good luck.
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My guess is...that it's a cheap sale because it's unlocked and it can't be returned for whatever reason.
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Extremely good point there. I think we all agree it's risky to say the least. I'm n ot you, obviously, but if I were, I'd save up and buy new.
Thanks for all your advice. I went ahead and bought it anyway It is a tf-700, not unlocked, and in really good shape. The guy only used it for a couple weeks and then switched to the note 10.1 because of the stylus (so he said). Seems like the kind of guy who likes to switch out his toys fairly often.
It wasn't ridiculously cheap, I basically saved the tax and got the dock for free, so I feel I got a good deal.
Thanks again for your help.
Well done, then, I guess! And, errr.... welcome to our nice little club of geeks toying around with expensive gear.
(I feel a Deckard Cain quote coming up... "Stay a while and listen!" )
Have you tried unlocking it, or do you not care that much for customisation? Just asking, no opinion there.
Glad to hear you got a deal!
Enjoy that Infinity.
Thanks, I've been a lurker here for a while. I just recently made the switch from webos and replaced my pre3 with the GS3, and figured I might as well replace the touchpad too (I had it loaded with CM9) I still miss a few things about webos, but am really enjoying android so far. I was really waiting for the padfone to come to north america, but I think I'd have been waiting a long time, lol. padfone 2 maybe...
I put CM10 on the GS3, and I've rooted the TF700. I'm going to wait a bit before I unlock it. I figure if there are any issues I may still have a shot at a warranty. I'm definitely looking forward to JB on this baby though
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bytesailor said:
Thanks, I've been a lurker here for a while. I just recently made the switch from webos and replaced my pre3 with the GS3, and figured I might as well replace the touchpad too (I had it loaded with CM9) I still miss a few things about webos, but am really enjoying android so far. I was really waiting for the padfone to come to north america, but I think I'd have been waiting a long time, lol. padfone 2 maybe...
I put CM10 on the GS3, and I've rooted the TF700. I'm going to wait a bit before I unlock it. I figure if there are any issues I may still have a shot at a warranty. I'm definitely looking forward to JB on this baby though
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Man...I wanted one of those HP Touchpads soooo bad when the price dumped to $99.00 bucks.
Missed out there, sucks too because my sister was working for HP at the time.
That's a coincidence - I had a HP Touchpad that I sold to help go towards buying the
Infinity The TP had CM9 and was really nice!
I also had the HP Pre3 but that died a very sudden death (on last day of warranty!) but Carphone Warehouse replaced it with a brand new samasung Galaxy S2.
Not rooted the Infinity yet . . . . . can't wait for Jelly Bean on it!

thinking of picking up a RAZR hd from Fido Canada. Long term thoughts?

So here goes, I can now get a Razr HD for free through Fido canada. Not a bad deal considering from what I can tell, this phone will be a perfect replacement for my Nexus S running 4.1.2
From the reviews I read online, people are really enjoying this phone and it seems to have a fairly pure android experience that, coming from a nexus device, I want. The main selling point for me is LTE and SDHC. These two things alone are what I am switching phones for mostly.
1. So I ask you this, would you reccomend this phone to someone else?
2. How is rom support? is it easy to unlock and load aftermarket roms on this like CM etc and does it take to it well?
3. How is the device quality physically? It looks terrific online.
4. Anything else you might add?
Thanks again for the help!
sspikey said:
1. So I ask you this, would you reccomend this phone to someone else?
2. How is rom support? is it easy to unlock and load aftermarket roms on this like CM etc and does it take to it well?
3. How is the device quality physically? It looks terrific online.
4. Anything else you might add?
Thanks again for the help!
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1. Yes. I am quite happy with my Rogers Razr HD.
2. Rom support so far is ... in progress. There's not a huge user base for this device yet and it's only been available since October. Rogers/Fido won't see Jellybean stock upgrade until "1st Quarter" which might be as late as March, provided they don't change the scheduling again. Having said that, France and Australia already have JB, so maybe we'll see it sooner than that. It is easy to unlock and load aftermarket roms, BUT you have to unlock it through Motorola and you void your warranty to do so. Just so you know.
3. Physical build is really good, imo. Battery life is excellent, screen is bright, volume is loud. Only weakness is the camera, which is mediocre.
4. There's no decent desk dock available for it yet. There's a car dock, and a couple crappy options for a desk dock but we might have to wait for a third party to make one. Also, hdmi out options are lacking ... As there are no options. IMO, it should allow screen off with hdmi on, or different resolutions output, but only has overscan and hdmi enable... And once you upgrade to JB, you lose overscan.
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1. Yes. I am quite happy with my Rogers Razr HD.
2. Rom support so far is ... in progress. There's not a huge user base for this device yet and it's only been available since October. Rogers/Fido won't see Jellybean stock upgrade until "1st Quarter" which might be as late as March, provided they don't change the scheduling again. Having said that, France and Australia already have JB, so maybe we'll see it sooner than that. It is easy to unlock and load aftermarket roms, BUT you have to unlock it through Motorola and you void your warranty to do so. Just so you know.
3. Physical build is really good, imo. Battery life is excellent, screen is bright, volume is loud. Only weakness is the camera, which is mediocre.
4. There's no decent desk dock available for it yet. There's a car dock, and a couple crappy options for a desk dock but we might have to wait for a third party to make one. Also, hdmi out options are lacking ... As there are no options. IMO, it should allow screen off with hdmi on, or different resolutions output, but only has overscan and hdmi enable... And once you upgrade to JB, you lose overscan.
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If it wasnt for the damn rom options and slow updates, I would be ALL over this thing right now!
Why cant all updates be pushed from google directly and be done with it! Damnit!
sspikey said:
If it wasnt for the damn rom options and slow updates, I would be ALL over this thing right now!
Why cant all updates be pushed from google directly and be done with it! Damnit!
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Just get it anyway, and practice patience. That's what I did.
Did you get it with 2 year contract or month to month? I got it free with 2 year.
sspikey said:
If it wasnt for the damn rom options and slow updates, I would be ALL over this thing right now!
Why cant all updates be pushed from google directly and be done with it! Damnit!
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This is the way I look at it:
If you want custom ROMs because you actually enjoy playing around with new ROMs every two weeks (and intend to do so for the life of the device), then don't buy a Droid Razr HD now. Wait for the phone to get better support, or buy a Google Nexus branded device. You are looking for a tinker-toy more than you are looking for a reliable daily-use smartphone.
If you need a reliable daily-use smartphone, then the current state of ROM support is irrelevant. Sure, you are going to play around with custom ROMs to start. But eventually, you will settle on a ROM that you like, and then stick with that ROM for several months before changing. If that describes you, then you'll be fine getting a Droid RAZR HD. Remember, it's easy to improve on software (ROMs) after you buy a device. But once you buy hardware, you're stuck with it.
May I ask, what is hdmi overscan?
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Royalfox said:
May I ask, what is hdmi overscan?
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Basically changing the output resolution to eliminate black bars around the borders. The native resolution of the Razr HD is 1280x720, but it'll fill a webtop screen resolution of 1366x768 using hdmi overscan.
1 - I picked this up on Rogers and I'm pretty happy with it. Having a slightly less modified version of android is something I prefer since I'd rather do the tweaking instead of rely on manufacturers to decide what I need. Yeah, I'd recommend it but it depends how flashy people expect a phone to be out of the box.
2 - I bought it without expecting to root and fiddle with it for a year or two. That's because I don't think development for it will catch up until then since it's not nearly as popular as something like the S3, but also because it simply works right now. I have one phone and I need it to work every day so flashing roms frequently isn't something I have time for.
3 - It's just as nice as it looks online. It reminds me of an iPhone 4 / 4s with a more durable feel to it. I dropped my last phone onto steel from 20ft and it cracked the screen under the gorilla glass. This gives me a lot more confidence that the thicker first gen glass (as opposed to the thinner gorilla glass 2) will hold up to the occasional beating it takes at work.
4 - Motorola remembered to make this phone a phone. It seems a lot of companies forget that with smartphones. It's really nice to have a phone with a loud speaker, earpiece and fantastic reception. The whole time I had a Samsung Galaxy S I was battling with the quiet earpiece and yet with this I've answered calls at work with 32dB ear plugs in without issues.
I live in a city with some major dead spots and quite often my friends will realize they haven't had reception for hours and have missed calls while I maintain a couple bars. After making a switch to the Razr HD I'm always the last to lose reception :good:
hi
can someone let me know how the camera quality is? how does it do in low light settings and is the flash bright enough?
thx
I got this phone a few days ago from future shop on the 56$ promo plan. I've never had an android phone before, but so far i like the phone a lot. The kevlar on the back in the chevron pattern looks really nice and makes it stand out. It has a little lip that goes around the edge of the screen which i personally think is greatest idea ever. I dropped the phone from about 3 feet onto the sidewalk and it landed on the front facing corner of the phone. When i flipped it over the phone was undamaged. The camera isn't bad but isn't anything special either. If you decide to get the phone, get it from future shop. They offer a protection plan for 12$ a month, but you can convince them to throw some goodies in. I got a $150 in gift card and a 32gb micro sd card. The plan covers a replacement battery, but since the phone's battery can't be replaced, they will replace the phone with another phone for an equivalent value ($680 including tax).
I just picked this phone from Fido.
1: Physically speaking, this phone really looks nice ,but not ergonomic, maybe suitable for those guys with big hands.
2:Android experience is not so good, when my phone is on, there is always 1**M available RAM, not very smooth. I'am tired of rooting cell phones.I think if RAZR HD got updated to 4.2 would be very smooth.
sspikey said:
1. So I ask you this, would you reccomend this phone to someone else?
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I absolutely would, I have had many androids over the years and am loving this one so far.
sspikey said:
2. How is rom support? is it easy to unlock and load aftermarket roms on this like CM etc and does it take to it well?
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I noticed epinter is working on this phone, he was awesome for the Atrix 4G and still is....which means great roms support for us here.
I've already got Jellybean running even though Fido/Rogers won't be releasing the update until late January. There is a couple CM10 betas out but the best working one does not have bluetooth music working yet....so I'm holding off until then.
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3. How is the device quality physically? It looks terrific online.
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It has a wonderful build quality to it, mush superior to the Droid Razr that my room-mate has. I like that they did away with the stupid camera hump.
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4. Anything else you might add?
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This was a no-brainer to me, even if I cancelled my contract with Fido in a few months I would have paid less for the phone through them than on ebay or elsewhere.

Do you think build quality will get better? Should I wait?

So... I purchased the nexus 5 and had some quality issues so I returned it and picked up a moto x off craigslist. My nexus had the loose power button, weak speaker, poor battery life and low/loud vibration (noise when typing and couldnt feel it ring in my pocket).
Now... I have the moto x and think its a great phone (added features are very useful and build quality is amazing) .. But.. I miss the larger screen, wireless charging, wifi hotspot and unlockable bootloader. I think I could live with the battery life if the quality issues were taken care of (and yes, I understand no phone will be perfect)
So.. The question(s) . 1)Do you believe that these issues will be fixed as demand beings to drop (or ever)? 2)Were there similar quirks when the n4 initially released? 3)If so, were they taken care of? 4)Would you wait if you were in my shoes?
the green man said:
So... I purchased the nexus 5 and had some quality issues so I returned it and picked up a moto x off craigslist. My nexus had the loose power button, weak speaker, poor battery life and low/loud vibration (noise when typing and couldnt feel it ring in my pocket).
Now... I have the moto x and think its a great phone (added features are very useful and build quality is amazing) .. But.. I miss the larger screen, wireless charging, wifi hotspot and unlockable bootloader. I think I could live with the battery life if the quality issues were taken care of (and yes, I understand no phone will be perfect)
So.. The question(s) . 1)Do you believe that these issues will be fixed as demand beings to drop (or ever)? 2)Were there similar quirks when the n4 initially released? 3)If so, were they taken care of? 4)Would you wait if you were in my shoes?
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Mine doesn't have any of those issues.
I don't either.
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Mine doesn't have any of those issues.
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Seems like many others do. Would like some consistency and not have to go through the RMA process if i run into the issues again.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2509455
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2552565
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2509455
There are threads dedicated to these issues. Not saying all have them, but it seems many do. And I guess some are a matter of opinion (mainly speaker and vibration) but for me they were very poor.
If you know how to root and install custom recoveries and kernels, all the problems you addressed except for the power button will be resolved. I had the same issue and I catering a custom ROM did the trick
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I find the speaker embarrassing. Everyone else's phone has nice crystal clear notification sounds, then there's the Nexus 5!! Just look at peoples faces when they hear the low muffled and distorted chimes of your bbm sound for example.
If a batch comes out that fixes the speaker I'll be rma'ing for sure.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2509455
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2552565
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2509455
There are threads dedicated to these issues. Not saying all have them, but it seems many do. And I guess some are a matter of opinion (mainly speaker and vibration) but for me they were very poor.
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I don't have any of those problems either. My household has 4 Nexus 5's and not a single problem. I have already 7 friends who purchased Nexus 5's and not a single problem.
I know it's annoying for me to report 11 devices with no problems and yours did but it seems to me the phone is worth it. Sounds to me there are more with no issues than there are phones with issues.
Does anyone know if there were similar issues with the N4? If so, were they fixed once demand dropped?
What can you expect out of a $350 dollar phone? it sucks buy a higher end device if u want better build quality

I might get a OPO from a friend soon, so I need your info on some OPO aspects, please

I am currently in talks with a friend from another country to sell to me his 64GB black OnePlus One! *cheering with excitement*
Given this is a very new device, there are very few reports (/reviews) out there, not to mention in-depth (like real in-depth) reviews. So... what is there to be done? Ask current owners of the OPO, of course!
I got a few questions for you guys. Which... please, I would love if you could answer!
1) What phone did you get? The 16GB white variant or the 64GB black one? And... did you get a retail box? If yes, what was inside it? If no... well...
2) How are the buttons? Compared to those of the HTC One M7 (which are quite flat, but still not that hard to press) or those of the Nexus 5 (which are awesome) or the Galaxy Note 1-2-3 / Galaxy S4...? Do they protude out? Are they 'feedbacky'?
3) How is the in-call volume? Some people (some, because most of them seem to miss this out entirely) claim the in-call volume is really low... both on the earpiece and the speakers.
4) How are the speakers performing? In terms of loudness and clarity, of course, when compared to something like the Galaxy S / Note phones or any other phone you are / was comparing it to?
5) The camera lens... is it sunk in a bit, so it won't scratch when placed on a table? Or the camera lens is flushed to the back and easily prone to scratches?
6) Have you noticed any screen input lag? Some people have said the touchscreen is not as responsive as, say, the Nexus 5.
If you can provide answers... well, thank you very much, in advance!!
Formhault said:
I am currently in talks with a friend from another country to sell to me his 64GB black OnePlus One! *cheering with excitement*
Given this is a very new device, there are very few reports (/reviews) out there, not to mention in-depth (like real in-depth) reviews. So... what is there to be done? Ask current owners of the OPO, of course!
I got a few questions for you guys. Which... please, I would love if you could answer!
1) What phone did you get? The 16GB white variant or the 64GB black one? And... did you get a retail box? If yes, what was inside it? If no... well...
2) How are the buttons? Compared to those of the HTC One M7 (which are quite flat, but still not that hard to press) or those of the Nexus 5 (which are awesome) or the Galaxy Note 1-2-3 / Galaxy S4...? Do they protude out? Are they 'feedbacky'?
3) How is the in-call volume? Some people (some, because most of them seem to miss this out entirely) claim the in-call volume is really low... both on the earpiece and the speakers.
4) How are the speakers performing? In terms of loudness and clarity, of course, when compared to something like the Galaxy S / Note phones or any other phone you are / was comparing it to?
5) The camera lens... is it sunk in a bit, so it won't scratch when placed on a table? Or the camera lens is flushed to the back and easily prone to scratches?
6) Have you noticed any screen input lag? Some people have said the touchscreen is not as responsive as, say, the Nexus 5.
If you can provide answers... well, thank you very much, in advance!!
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I don't have the OnePlus One, but if you're thinking of getting one from China there's something you need to consider:
No support outside China, including warranty
I'm pretty sure radio bands are different than rest of the world, so carrier compatibility is probably hindered, especially on 3G and LTE
srps, there is support and warranty outside of China. Each place that is on the country list (16 atm) will have full warranties, as well as support.
The OP didn't say where he/she was getting the phone from. The bands that are supported are listed on the site. I would hope that the OP does their research and knows what they're getting.
Answer to 1: The people that got their phone as one of the first 100 did not get retail boxes. None of them. They're getting accessories sent to them later this month.
2: Buttons are pretty low, but they click when you press them. You'll know if you hit it or not. They stick out more than the M7, but not by much.
3: I didn't make any calls, so I can't answer this question.
4: Speakers are loud. There's two speakers on the bottom that are fairly loud (for phone speakers). I tested various sounds and music on them.
5: The camera piece rests flat on a table. The lens is sunk in just a little bit to protect it from harm. You won't scratch it by laying it down.
6: Input always seemed smooth. Never noticed any input delay.
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srps, there is support and warranty outside of China. Each place that is on the country list (16 atm) will have full warranties, as well as support.
The OP didn't say where he/she was getting the phone from. The bands that are supported are listed on the site. I would hope that the OP does their research and knows what they're getting.
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Well... all I know is that it's a 64GB one. I have no idea if it comes from China or not. If it's from China, chances are it's not gonna work in Romania, heh? The guy is from Germany, by the way.
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Answer to 1: The people that got their phone as one of the first 100 did not get retail boxes. None of them. They're getting accessories sent to them later this month.
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So... those guys are gonna get the accessories sent to them, but not the box? Just the accessories?
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2: Buttons are pretty low, but they click when you press them. You'll know if you hit it or not. They stick out more than the M7, but not by much.
3: I didn't make any calls, so I can't answer this question.
4: Speakers are loud. There's two speakers on the bottom that are fairly loud (for phone speakers). I tested various sounds and music on them.
5: The camera piece rests flat on a table. The lens is sunk in just a little bit to protect it from harm. You won't scratch it by laying it down.
6: Input always seemed smooth. Never noticed any input delay.
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2: As I thought! Not as good as the Nexus 5, but better than the M7. Good! Thanks!
3: Anyway, I talked to supercurio on Twitter and he confirmed that low in-call volume is a software bug.
4, 5, 6: Thanks for setting my fears aside!
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Well... all I know is that it's a 64GB one. I have no idea if it comes from China or not. If it's from China, chances are it's not gonna work in Romania, heh? The guy is from Germany, by the way.
So... those guys are gonna get the accessories sent to them, but not the box? Just the accessories?
2: As I thought! Not as good as the Nexus 5, but better than the M7. Good! Thanks!
3: Anyway, I talked to supercurio on Twitter and he confirmed that low in-call volume is a software bug.
4, 5, 6: Thanks for setting my fears aside!
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There are no 64GB versions out yet.
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There are no 64GB versions out yet.
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I know. That was my suspicion, too. But he managed to get it from sources which shall not be named (source source hint hint who does OPO work with). Don't have any info wether he has the accessories and the (just announced?) box, but regardless, for the price, it is worth it.
I have an S4 right now. If I am to sell it, I am lucky to get half of what I paid for it 8 months ago. On top of that, add ~$100 and I get that OPO. Good deal, heh?
Alternatives:
-sell the S4 and add ~$150 or even more for a HTC One M8 or similar
-wait for OnePlus to expand the country list they ship to and include mine (never?)
Formhault said:
I know. That was my suspicion, too. But he managed to get it from sources which shall not be named (source source hint hint who does OPO work with). Don't have any info wether he has the accessories and the (just announced?) box, but regardless, for the price, it is worth it.
I have an S4 right now. If I am to sell it, I am lucky to get half of what I paid for it 8 months ago. On top of that, add ~$100 and I get that OPO. Good deal, heh?
Alternatives:
-sell the S4 and add ~$150 or even more for a HTC One M8 or similar
-wait for OnePlus to expand the country list they ship to and include mine (never?)
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I would ask to see a picture of it showing the storage capacity. When push comes to shove I'd bet he can't provide one.
The 64GB is not available yet. None of the reviews you find on the net are 64gb their all 16gb.
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I would ask to see a picture of it showing the storage capacity. When push comes to shove I'd bet he can't provide one.
The 64GB is not available yet. None of the reviews you find on the net are 64gb their all 16gb.
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As I said, he has it from the very source, so to say. So chances are it doesn't have to be available publicly for the insiders to have it. Of course I will ask for pictures.
Harfainx said:
srps, there is support and warranty outside of China. Each place that is on the country list (16 atm) will have full warranties, as well as support.
The OP didn't say where he/she was getting the phone from. The bands that are supported are listed on the site. I would hope that the OP does their research and knows what they're getting.
Answer to 1: The people that got their phone as one of the first 100 did not get retail boxes. None of them. They're getting accessories sent to them later this month.
2: Buttons are pretty low, but they click when you press them. You'll know if you hit it or not. They stick out more than the M7, but not by much.
3: I didn't make any calls, so I can't answer this question.
4: Speakers are loud. There's two speakers on the bottom that are fairly loud (for phone speakers). I tested various sounds and music on them.
5: The camera piece rests flat on a table. The lens is sunk in just a little bit to protect it from harm. You won't scratch it by laying it down.
6: Input always seemed smooth. Never noticed any input delay.
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There is support outside of China for non-Chinese SKUs. If you buy a Chinese one then you're stuck with China for support, and the bands are different.
I have no idea what version is that guy advertising, I just wanted to point that out so the OP is informed about the differences between Chinese and non-Chinese versions.
No one has publicly bought or given a 64GB international version yet.

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