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[Q] New Data plan required...

Let me get to the point. I just got my G2x yesterday, swapped everything from my N1. On WiFi, np, I can access anything thru the internet. W/o WiFi, I still get MMS and can trick my phone in getting short data, like my current weather in a widget, etc. but when a browser is pulled up, it tells me I have the wrong data plan and I have to update.
Now, I know exactly what this is, my question is more if there is a way of circumnavigating it? I have the same plan I had w/my G1, which was just before the data plans changed and I don't want to have upgrade to one of thier new limited-unltd AND pay more on top of it. I was planning on rooting it anyway as I have my past to Androids (thanks by the way XDA, w/o this site, I couldn't have done it), but was waiting for CM7. I know there are several great ROMs out there though, many more than when I originally flashed my G1 and if by rooting it, I would work around whatever is relaying my phn info.
Oh, and so everyone knows, I haven't updated my imei yet w/TMo, but I've never experienced this before even w/o my imei being updated.
Anyway, hope my rambling has at least stayed near the tracks of reason and someone can give me an answer. If I have to update my service then I have to, I just don't like being "forced" to , makes me think AT&T and I would LOOOOOOVE to get around this!
Thx all...

Call T-Mobile and tell them what you're seeing. They'll probably first tell you that you'll have to upgrade, or pay more. Tell them that is unacceptable and you'd like to be grandfathered in.
See if that works, I've heard that some people who used T-Zones back in the day are grandfathered in at $5.99 for unlimited web. I'm not sure how valid this may be, but try your luck with T-Mobile and post back here what the outcome was.

I'll give it a try, but I'm going to give hope a chance and hold my breath hoping that maybe, just maybe, this can be circumnavigated by freezing and/or removing some sort of pre-installed mothership progam hidden in one of the many bloatware by TMo...

im grandfatherd with the 6 dollar tzones but it cut off on me last week like when i go to the web it tells me my plans not sufficent for it so idk what to do but im not gettin a data plan

If you are on T-Zones I really doubt you will be able to keep it. What I would do is call retentions and try to get them to put the grandfathered $20 Android plan on there so at least you get it for a little bit less.

Pretty much the same thing I'm getting, it redirects me to web2go.com and tells me I have to update my data plan.
Don't get me wrong, if the TMo commercial chick dressed up like a dominatrix, I would make it my screensaver among other things, it doesn't mean I long for my provider to act the role...

Did you renew your contract?? I am still using the $25 plan I got when I had my G1. At some point (can't remember if I was still on G1 or Nexus One) but I had to switch to the "Android Data Plan" instead of the G! plan (to get Visual Voicemail). My price remained the same, just the name changed. But, I didn't renew my contract when I bought this phone.

Nope, no contract.

RhynosAndroid said:
Let me get to the point. I just got my G2x yesterday, swapped everything from my N1. On WiFi, np, I can access anything thru the internet. W/o WiFi, I still get MMS and can trick my phone in getting short data, like my current weather in a widget, etc. but when a browser is pulled up, it tells me I have the wrong data plan and I have to update.
Now, I know exactly what this is, my question is more if there is a way of circumnavigating it? I have the same plan I had w/my G1, which was just before the data plans changed and I don't want to have upgrade to one of thier new limited-unltd AND pay more on top of it. I was planning on rooting it anyway as I have my past to Androids (thanks by the way XDA, w/o this site, I couldn't have done it), but was waiting for CM7. I know there are several great ROMs out there though, many more than when I originally flashed my G1 and if by rooting it, I would work around whatever is relaying my phn info.
Oh, and so everyone knows, I haven't updated my imei yet w/TMo, but I've never experienced this before even w/o my imei being updated.
Anyway, hope my rambling has at least stayed near the tracks of reason and someone can give me an answer. If I have to update my service then I have to, I just don't like being "forced" to , makes me think AT&T and I would LOOOOOOVE to get around this!
Thx all...
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Do you know the name of the actual plan you have? I am a Tech Care rep and the only time you would need to change from a grandfathered plan is if you had a generic smartphone plan instead of an android specific plan.
You may have to upgrade to the android specific, but there are ways around paying the higher cost. Retentions is a good way, got a guy the $20 buck plan yesterday to match his loyalty Blackberry internet plan through retentions.

Glad I'm on Simple Mobile can't beat the price

mikebionca06 said:
Glad I'm on Simple Mobile can't beat the price
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True but good luck with any customer service or tech support.

I just got my G2x today coming from my N1. I was able to keep my Myfaves + unlimited android data, in fact it was recommended i keep it because it has a 5gb cap and the new plan would be 2gb

Adam7986 said:
True but good luck with any customer service or tech support.
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Ive been with them since it was available ,never had to call customer support and never had an issue...

as far as i have tried the t-zones or t-web plan will not work, i had to finally ditch mine after 7 years, i did call t-mobile and asked to speak to a loyalty rep. which i then explained that i was not going to pay more than 20 for a plan with a new 2 year upgrade, which did not take to much convincing they gave me the unlimited Android data plan for 20 bucks a month. Trust me i did not want to let go of my 9.99 plan which worked great with my HD2 with 3g speeds, but for an extra 10 bucks a month its worth not having to worry about will it work and trying to find the right settings.

Yeah, I'm sure I'm going to have to buckle as well. Going to flash the CM build that was just released. After that, go the loyalty route I guess.
Oh, and...
GO POKES!

So can anyone confirm you have to upgrade from the g1 plan to take advantage of 4h data speeds?

donutman said:
So can anyone confirm you have to upgrade from the g1 plan to take advantage of 4h data speeds?
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That is just a name change - has no effect on speeds.
Still on my "Android Unlimited" for $25 (after changing from "G1 Plan" for VVM).
mikebionca06 said:
Ive been with them since it was available ,never had to call customer support and never had an issue...
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Did you buy your SIM from SM directly?
-bZj

donutman said:
So can anyone confirm you have to upgrade from the g1 plan to take advantage of 4h data speeds?
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Nope, as I said Im still on my plan from my G1 that was also used on the N1. they just gave me a new sim card.

mikebionca06 said:
Ive been with them since it was available ,never had to call customer support and never had an issue...
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Which is great, but if one day you need it, they don't have a contact number/e-mail listed on their website and T-Mobile can't help you.

Well, I added the "data throttling removal" patch because at least a few of the posts sounded as if by using this Paul O'Brien patch they circumnavigated the need to change plans. Alas, to no avail, although now, I shouldn't have to worry about data throttling should I downgrade to the (limited) unlimited plan.
It appears than my Holy Grail continues to elude me! At this point, I would even just accept some Knights who say "NI!" I'd trade a shrubbery for a resolution...

[Q] replaced flip phone by Inspire, no IP unless wifi. any way to use WAP?

So my Girl had a flip phone from ages ago, she had the wap 2.0 internet on it "unlimited for like 5 bucks lol"
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so i got her an Inspire 4g.
i was trying to figure out a way to give her internet access without having to add a data plan for 30 bucks.
phone is not rooted but i can root it.
i searched but nothing helpful was found on this subject
can it be done? if so let me know. thanks.

bump
Bump,, still need your knowledge!

It's not possible to do what you want or to be running GB on a non-rooted phone.

Krayvon said:
So my Girl had a flip phone from ages ago, she had the wap 2.0 internet on it "unlimited for like 5 bucks lol" but the phone only did 2g. maybe EDGE class 10.
she wanted a phone like mine "htc evo rooted to senergy : ) " but shes on att so i bought her an insipre 4g.
i was trying to figure out a way to give her internet access without having to add a data plan for 30 bucks.
phone is not rooted running gingerbread.
i searched but nothing helpful was found on this subject.
kindly advise ways around it to save her couple bucks. i am pretty handy with phones on CDMA side not so much on GSM. so your help is appreciated.
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I don't know about how to get around the data plan, but I don't think you can be running Gingerbread not rooted.

Its all about luck, i bought an iphone from ebay and used it without a data plan for 6months, then i sold it and bought htc aria, within one hour of inserting a sim i received a message from att that we have added a data plan for your smarphone
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misunderstood
ahm12 said:
Its all about luck, i bought an iphone from ebay and used it without a data plan for 6months, then i sold it and bought htc aria, within one hour of inserting a sim i received a message from att that we have added a data plan for your smarphone
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i think you guys misunderstood me, i edited the post so it makes more sense.
i wanna know if i can get her full internet access on her phone without having to change her ad on feature.
thanks.

You should be able to use wifi for free without a data plan. Menu > Settings > Wireless and Networks, just trun on wifi and you can download as much as you want. You just can't use 3g/4g without a data plan unless I'm mistaken.

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Jake33108 said:
You should be able to use wifi for free without a data plan. Menu > Settings > Wireless and Networks, just trun on wifi and you can download as much as you want. You just can't use 3g/4g without a data plan unless I'm mistaken.
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not true, she has a data ad on her account right now (thats how she was getting data on her flip phone)
i was hoping a dedicated way around it not just utilizing wifi.
i use to get full data on my n95 with "tzone" back in the day. and i was only paying 6 bucks a month and got unlimited internet and 3g
i know there is a way around it, just need to ask the right person

Krayvon said:
not true, she has a data ad on her account right now (thats how she was getting data on her flip phone)
i was hoping a dedicated way around it not just utilizing wifi.
i use to get full data on my n95 with "tzone" back in the day. and i was only paying 6 bucks a month and got unlimited internet and 3g
i know there is a way around it, just need to ask the right person
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So, what you think is that all of us are too stupid to know about a way to get free data if there was one? Our phones are rooted, hacked, Undervolted, OC'd and modified to death. But for some reason we all missed the free interwebz..... ........more dot.......Dots.......some dots againz...
She is on a smart phone now. It can download easily 5 and 6 gigs a month. ATT isn't going to let you do it for free.... And the data plans aren't just 30 bux. There are 15, 25, and 35.. Each for certain types of users. 15 is 200mb, 25 is 2000mb, 35 is tether and 4000mb
Those are your choices. Notice free is not one of them.

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So, what you think is that all of us are too stupid to know about a way to get free data if there was one? Our phones are rooted, hacked, Undervolted, OC'd and modified to death. But for some reason we all missed the free interwebz..... ........more dot.......Dots.......some dots againz...
She is on a smart phone now. It can download easily 5 and 6 gigs a month. ATT isn't going to let you do it for free.... And the data plans aren't just 30 bux. There are 15, 25, and 35.. Each for certain types of users. 15 is 200mb, 25 is 2000mb, 35 is tether and 4000mb
Those are your choices. Notice free is not one of them.
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wow. i would say thanks but you didn't tell me anything new. you just whined and *****ed. i put it in Q&A to get advise and learn something new not criticism from some douche.

Krayvon said:
wow. i would say thanks but you didn't tell me anything new. you just whined and *****ed. i put it in Q&A to get advise and learn something new not criticism from some douche.
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long story short, u might be able to get a data access with watever plan she has right now...
but att has a list imei of smartphones, as soon as you gonna put in your sim in the inspire within two days they will add a 15$ plan period..
there is no way around it..

Krayvon said:
wow. i would say thanks but you didn't tell me anything new. you just whined and *****ed. i put it in Q&A to get advise and learn something new not criticism from some douche.
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There is not a whine in the post. Just facts.
1. You think ppl are stoopid.
2. You want free.
3. You aren't gonna get it.
4. The only douche is you. Not once did I criticize you. You can't even comprehend what you read.
Whine example;
waaaa. I want free interwebz, waaaaa.
See the difference?
P.S. Now I'm making fun of you, more so then criticizing. Just in case your comprehension skillz still haven't kicked in.

[Q] Tethering Police?

Has anyone actually been caught by the tethering police? I mean have they sent you a notice or anything?
Also, do you think I would be caught? I have used between 11 to 20 gigs a month for 6 months straight with my previous phone(Tilt2) and now I that I have the Infuse, would they even know If I was tethering or not since I would be using the same amount of data as I previously have?
Any input would be appreciated

Without trying to sound like a jerk, you do realize it's people like you that are the reason they have to police it in the first place?
20 gigs isn't off the charts outrageous, cause there are guys that say they've used up to 50 gigs in a month. Every time my bill goes up, I say a thank you to each one of you.

antuus said:
Without trying to sound like a jerk, you do realize it's people like you that are the reason they have to police it in the first place?
20 gigs isn't off the charts outrageous, cause there are guys that say they've used up to 50 gigs in a month. Every time my bill goes up, I say a thank you to each one of you.
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Lol
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antuus said:
Without trying to sound like a jerk, you do realize it's people like you that are the reason they have to police it in the first place?
20 gigs isn't off the charts outrageous, cause there are guys that say they've used up to 50 gigs in a month. Every time my bill goes up, I say a thank you to each one of you.
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That doesn't really answer my question... but hey, thanks!!

antuus said:
Without trying to sound like a jerk, you do realize it's people like you that are the reason they have to police it in the first place?
20 gigs isn't off the charts outrageous, cause there are guys that say they've used up to 50 gigs in a month. Every time my bill goes up, I say a thank you to each one of you.
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Thanks for the tiered data.
Hope you do get caught.
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antuus said:
Without trying to sound like a jerk, you do realize it's people like you that are the reason they have to police it in the first place?
20 gigs isn't off the charts outrageous, cause there are guys that say they've used up to 50 gigs in a month. Every time my bill goes up, I say a thank you to each one of you.
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well if he stops know, theyll suspect something!
tbh, i pay for unlimited data. ive tethered a few times but not more than checking that i can or to run speed tests. even though i dont really tether, i still use alot of data. thats why i have the unlimited data plan. att knows this. ive been paying them for years to know this.

The Jack of Clubs said:
well if he stops know, theyll suspect something!
tbh, i pay for unlimited data. ive tethered a few times but not more than checking that i can or to run speed tests. even though i dont really tether, i still use alot of data. thats why i have the unlimited data plan. att knows this. ive been paying them for years to know this.
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I'm not going to get into the "well unlimited is unlimited and why does it matter how I use my unlimited." That's an argument that I feel both sides has a good argument for, so why waste the time.
I have no issues if you download gigs of porn to your phone, month after month. My issue is with the people that tether to excess just because they can. I can't tell you how thankful I am that ATT did lose a good amount of customers to VZW when the iP4 hit their shelves. Now those fanboys are bogging down the VZW network and not ours. Now I can only hope that more of these guys look for greener pastures so my bill stops inflating.

att prepared for the iphone originally with its separate apn and all that. it helped but you saw more iphones with down service than other phone users. really set up a bad name for att. has anybody even bought the iphone on verizon? i remember the launch day being a flop, havent really kept up with apple news since then.

antuus said:
I'm not going to get into the "well unlimited is unlimited and why does it matter how I use my unlimited." That's an argument that I feel both sides has a good argument for, so why waste the time.
I have no issues if you download gigs of porn to your phone, month after month. My issue is with the people that tether to excess just because they can. I can't tell you how thankful I am that ATT did lose a good amount of customers to VZW when the iP4 hit their shelves. Now those fanboys are bogging down the VZW network and not ours. Now I can only hope that more of these guys look for greener pastures so my bill stops inflating.
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I do not tether on excess just because I can. I do it because I have no other means to connect to the internet and It wouldn't be the same on my phone's browser. Yes it has a flash player plugin, but that doesn't mean I can do everything I can do in a computer environment. If I had access to internet by any other means, then I wouldn't tether from my phone. There was no need for you or anyone to be harsh to me without hearing my side of the story thank you very much.

MikeyMike01 said:
Thanks for the tiered data.
Hope you do get caught.
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Agree. If I tether a lot in a month, MAYBE I'll cross 2 gigs. I make a point of keeping my tethering light.
However with the new phone I suspect I'll come closer to that 2gig limit a lot more often. (Fortunately I don't have it, since I'm unlimited.)
But 11-20 gigs/month without paying for tethering is just plain irresponsible. With abuse like that I'm surprised you haven't gotten busted and I wouldn't feel sorry for you if you did.

I had a grandfather plan - $20/mo unlimited data.
I've changed 5 or 6 smartphones since I had it, now on Infuse 4G, I'm getting the sucky-ass AT&T 4G speeds, tether to laptop when needed - no tethering plan.
I don't use that much though, about 2GB/month max.
I asked AT&T rep directly about this - she said they'll never change the plan unless I specifically allow it. She said they can't switch me.

well, there is that tethermanager.apk on stock that seems to report back to AT&T if you're tethering.
then if they feel like it they will text you and say "don't keep doing it or we'll swap you to the tethering plan"
you can freeze that with titanium backup (well you need to be rooted too) and that reactivates the stock tethering stuff built into the phone (both mobile ap and usb tethering)

hwaters said:
well, there is that tethermanager.apk on stock that seems to report back to AT&T if you're tethering.
then if they feel like it they will text you and say "don't keep doing it or we'll swap you to the tethering plan"
you can freeze that with titanium backup (well you need to be rooted too) and that reactivates the stock tethering stuff built into the phone (both mobile ap and usb tethering)
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Well that really isn't helpful(since I have already done all that) but thanks. I'm talking about AT&T's "Tether Police" that monitor data spikes and accuse you of tethering if your data seems different for any other month.

Earlier this year, a At&t added a tethering plan to thousands of accounts based on data usage. They also alerted many more they would do the same. I only know of three people to have this done to them
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MikeyMike01 said:
Thanks for the tiered data.
Hope you do get caught.
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That's why att sucks ass...
Grapes

I've been unlimited for years now, i don't know nor care how much data I use. I can tether if I want, which means if my home internet goes down and I need my pc, guess what... I'm tethering. I give att $200 per month for my phone plan over the past 4 years at lest, I highly doubt they'll piss me off and attach a tether plan to my account.
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Rldowney said:
Earlier this year, a At&t added a tethering plan to thousands of accounts based on data usage. They also alerted many more they would do the same. I only know of three people to have this done to them
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While what you say isn't exactly what happened they have been flagging a very large percentage iPhone users who have tethered even for a matter of 3 minutes.
I currently have an iPhone 4 (should finally have my INFUSE today) and only one time have tethered and probably for less than 30 seconds just to see if the Cydia app worked. All I did was go to speedtest.net and ran the test 2 or 3 times. That was it. About 2 weeks later I got the WARNING text. Plan was never changed. They only will change it if you ignore their warning(s) and do not call them to "discuss" it as they request in their text.
As for me, traveling in North, Central and South NJ, AT&T 3G is virtually useless. Speeds are terrible and the latency is horrendous. I have no idea how people can actually regularly use tethering. I guess it's better in other areas. Been that way through 3 iPhones over 4+ years so I have no desire to tether anyway.

I think the tethering and data caps are completely separate issues. ATT had a plan, or at least the idea, for tiered data plans long before the iPhone was even capable of tethering without being jailbroken. Tethering plans are complete bull****, and I'm sure the FCC will eventually make them illegal. If you pay for a data connection, you should be able to use it any way you want. It's like ATT trying to charge you for the separate phones in your house (or at least a premium to allow you to use more than just one phone). I also think the tethering police are a joke too. I'm sure (especially since they allow sideloading), that any kind of traffic that can be generating by a computer can be replicated in android.

Anybody getting that $30 unlimited text/4g and 100 minutes deal?

The minute I save up enough to buy my Sidekick 4G, I'm heading for this deal.
Right here.
A quick little excerpt
The new flexible and affordable plan will provide Walmart customers with access to America’s Largest 4G Network™. In a survey of Walmart customers, approximately 60 percent cited that having a high-speed data network was a key factor in the purchase of a wireless service plan. With this new offering, available for $30 per month and no annual contract, customers can enjoy unlimited Web, with the first 5 GB at up to 4G speeds; unlimited text; and 100 minutes of talk, with 10 cents per minute after the first 100 minutes.
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Thought I might add that this will work with any 4G enabled T-Mo phone... just that you would have to pay the no contract price for the phone.

Nice find dude! That is actually worth cancelling my contract for, I barely use any minutes and pay about $60 a month now. if I cancel it's like $200 but I will be saving $30 a month so:
30x18= 540- 200= $340 of savings and no contract!!

Tnx dude for telling us. I am definately going to switch to that plan!!!!
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I'm actually shocked you guys didn't hear about it. I heard about it a while (I posted the article on my FB the 3rd) ago, but I posted it here to make conversation. I'm glad you guys were notified, because this is a killer deal imo.

so let me get thiz straight if u want that deal you have to go to walmart only to get it?

See, that's I'm not entirely sure about. It does say Exclusively at Walmart and it;s online store, as well as T-Mo's website, but how will you get the SIM card? Will it be shipped out to you?

I guess well just have to wait and see on the 16th. I'm going to go to a walmart store and check online nd see if I get it.
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Naw, I have unlimited everything and data plan
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Yesss, I'm very interested in this! Since I am not a huge talker but frequently text and use data this looks like the perfect option for mee

vicmora5 said:
Yesss, I'm very interested in this! Since I am not a huge talker but frequently text and use data this looks like the perfect option for mee
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That is exactly me! I never owned a 4G/3G phone before (I have the LX before they canned data, now it' sucks ) but I know I'm a HEAVY texter and I love to use data.
I asked my friend, who is on Sprint with the Evo if he uses 5GB/m, and he said he averages 3~4GB, so I know 5GB will probably be more than enough for me (Esp since there's wifi for data hogging things like video streaming)
And when I'm at home, I can just use the home phone, thus saving me on the 100 minutes when people like your girlfriend wanna "Hear your voice" -__-

wow great find! That's not a bad deal for people who don't talk as much as they text!

So how do I go about getting this now?

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So how do I go about getting this now?
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Walmart or tmobile website, starts Tuesday I believe

How do you get the new plan?
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I dont get it. I go to change my plan online via the mytomobile, but that option isnt there. It says webonly when I view the monthly plans and I dont understande how Im not able to just switch to that plan -_-
Ok i did a live chat with someone from T-Mobile and they said that I have to go to Walmart and get the sim card activation kit. He had told me to just order it off the Tmobile website then he said that he was told that I would need to buy it from walmart. which is really inconvenient for me since I had to travel from my small town to a town with a Tmobile store /:

vicmora5 said:
I dont get it. I go to change my plan online via the mytomobile, but that option isnt there. It says webonly when I view the monthly plans and I dont understande how Im not able to just switch to that plan -_-
Ok i did a live chat with someone from T-Mobile and they said that I have to go to Walmart and get the sim card activation kit. He had told me to just order it off the Tmobile website then he said that he was told that I would need to buy it from walmart. which is really inconvenient for me since I had to travel from my small town to a town with a Tmobile store /:
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Call walmart and see if they can ship it to you

Would this plan allow you to use Wi Fi calling without using your plan minutes?

No it won't, wifi calling always uses minutes unless you use a diff. App
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Voip Google Voice apn modding over 3g and 4g?
Saw that on t-mob 2g this will work fine for VOIP... what is t-mob doing to block or interrupt stuff like grooveip (VOIP) from snrb labs(avaliable on android market for 4.99). I read something about having to modify APN or something

vizionforever said:
Saw that on t-mob 2g this will work fine for VOIP... what is t-mob doing to block or interrupt stuff like grooveip (VOIP) from snrb labs(avaliable on android market for 4.99). I read something about having to modify APN or something
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I haven't heard anything about that, I don't think they have caught on to it yet (they are just catching up to tethering and that's been around since 2008 on the G1) I know google voice works good, the one thing they said is you might not get as good of reception on prepaid because they borrow towers but I live in the city and get good 4g where I live/work, I think he might've been BSing me to get me to not cancel my contract though

Unlimited Data throttling VZW

Verizon to throttle 4G LTE users with unlimited plans starting October .
http://www.androidauthority.com/verizon-throttle-4g-lte-users-starting-october-1-409934/
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I wonder if this affects current on contract unlimited data.

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I wonder if this affects current on contract unlimited data.
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At this point there aren't many if any on contract Unlimited data plans, as they stopped offering unlimited 3 years ago.

mc_365 said:
At this point there aren't many if any on contract Unlimited data plans, as they stopped offering unlimited 3 years ago.
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That's not true. There's a fairly well-known loophole of using alternate upgrades to keep unlimited data and extend your contract. I've successfully done it three times now. The last time was in April when I got my M8. I have unlimited data and my contract expiration date is 04/07/2016. :good:

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That's not true. There's a fairly well-known loophole of using alternate upgrades to keep unlimited data and extend your contract. I've successfully done it three times now. The last time was in April when I got my M8. I have unlimited data and my contract expiration date is 04/07/2016. :good:
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This... So we shouldn't get affected then ?

dadsterflip said:
This... So we shouldn't get affected then ?
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Technically, according to the conditions of the list, we should be fine. One of the conditions is "Have fulfilled their minimum contract term". This is Big Red we're talking about here, though, so you never know. I hope T-Mobile steps up their coverage game in my area soon. I'm sure they will welcome me with open arms when Big Red forces me to get rid of my old voice plan and unlimited data.

shortstuff_mt said:
Technically, according to the conditions of the list, we should be fine. One of the conditions is "Have fulfilled their minimum contract term". This is Big Red we're talking about here, though, so you never know. I hope T-Mobile steps up their coverage game in my area soon. I'm sure they will welcome me with open arms when Big Red forces me to get rid of my old voice plan and unlimited data.
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I was hoping tmobile picks up where I am.. I'd jump in a heart beat.

Switch to T-Mobile
I'm switching to T-Mobile soon - I tether a lot so having unlimited is nice and there is more development for T-Mobile/AT&T editions. I would get throttled with unlimited on both networks so why not pay less?

Better reception more reliable network... More coverage. For me I travel so its nice to know I have data and my kids are able to tether for games and videos. Just my 2¢ often worth less to others lol.

The OP left out one important little detail: Only the top 5% of data hogs get throttled. Those that use more than 4.7GB/month.
I'm ok with that.

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The OP left out one important little detail: Only the top 5% of data hogs get throttled. Those that use more than 4.7GB/month.
I'm ok with that.
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4.7GB? Seriously? lol

Can anyone confirm the state of Verizon HTC One M8s that have switched to TMobile?
I assume by "everything" they literally mean, everything--calls, WiFi, 4G--or does the 4G only apply to "refarmed" areas? I already have S-OFF via Firewater so I'd assume the tough part's done...

Badcam3 said:
4.7GB? Seriously? lol
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I use that in about 2 days.....
I'm already at 50gb used and I still have 2 weeks left for this billing cycle
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justin94 said:
I use that in about 2 days.....
I'm already at 50gb used and I still have 2 weeks left for this billing cycle
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No such thing as a data hog, data WANTS to be transferred, that is the whole point of a network. If Verizon's network can't handle the network demands of their customers, they should upgrade their network, not throttle their customers. They make billions of dollars for pete's sake.
I travel 50% of the year for work, and hotel "high-speed" internet is rarely fast enough for VPN, screen sharing, downloading ISOs, etc. My phone is the only way I can get enough bandwidth on the road to do my job, and I can easily use 50-70GB/month. I do not consider this to be outlandish - files get bigger every day, data demands grow every day, and network speed and capacity must keep up with this trend. Land-line ISPs have no problem with this, Verizon is just greedy.

I use about the same 50 to 70 gigs a month. But I've upgraded so I'll be fine. I also live in the booneys, but we got 4g last year and I haven't noticed any throttling here. Good luck to others!
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csstamatin said:
I use about the same 50 to 70 gigs a month. But I've upgraded so I'll be fine. I also live in the booneys, but we got 4g last year and I haven't noticed any throttling here. Good luck to others!
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What do you mean by "but I've upgraded so I'll be fine"? I would love a new phone (currently on HTC Rezound) but refuse to give up unlimited data, even if it means buying a G3 or One M8 for full price.

md303 said:
What do you mean by "but I've upgraded so I'll be fine"? I would love a new phone (currently on HTC Rezound) but refuse to give up unlimited data, even if it means buying a G3 or One M8 for full price.
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I just bought the M8 on contract during their mother's day promo and kept my unlimited data. Just transfer your plan from your old phone (2 year contract fulfilled) to the new one.
Unfortunately you cannot rely on what the sals reps tell you. They told me I had to give up mu unlimited data, but I would get 5 GB/month instead of the standard 2 GB. After they'd done the switch I was still unlimited....

Yeah have multiple lines. Just transfered my upgrade, used it and my contract is resumed for another 2 years.
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berndblb said:
The OP left out one important little detail: Only the top 5% of data hogs get throttled. Those that use more than 4.7GB/month.
I'm ok with that.
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That's not very much data at all. I have a 10GB plan, and I routinely use almost all of it.
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Come on guys you know it's not really throttling, it's "Network Maintenance". Some attorney got big bucks for coming up with that attempt to fool all the VZW subscribers.