Siri Vs. S-Voice Vs. Google Voice - Android General

Having read this article over on CNet Crave UK I couldn't help but compare it to the standard voice offering within Android.
To get the results of the test for Siri and S-Voice look here:
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/samsung-galaxy-s3s-s-voice-vs-siri-on-iphone-4s-50008087/
Here is me doing the same test with Google Voice:
Here is my response to the article:
Test One: Call Luke Bailey, the standard Google voice recognition on my HTC One X hits this one out the park... RESULT: Success
Test Two: Whats the weather like today? Another instant success with the standard Google Voice offering, bringing up Google Search with a 5 day forecast for my location in Wigan, UK. RESULT: Success
Test Three: Do I need an umbrella today? This trips up the standard offering by just doing a Google Search for the statement but the first result is half way to success by giving me the option to input my location (which I do again with Voice on the keyboard and it returns a successful YES response) RESULT: Fail
Test Four: Text Luke Bailey, again instant success using the standard Google Voice recognition offering. No problems understanding my Northern Monkey accent when I say "Text Luke Bailey, You will need an Umbrella today." RESULT: Success
Test Five: Slight change of question to suit myself I ask "Find a Good pub nearby" The standard offering understood what I asked but hesitated slightly and gave me five options to pick from. The top being correct required me to use my hands but then swiftly brings up Google and having used location services brings up various pubs.
However even with 15+ pubs within a mile of my house it only brings up those with Google listings the nearest of which is 5 miles away. RESULT: Neither success or fail but requires work.
Test Six: Directions to Wigan Town Hall, it doesn't fail to accurately understand my command and brings up Google Maps with the right directions. RESULT: Success
Test Seven: Set Alarm for...unfortunately due to Google Voice not integrating with the Clock App on my HTC One X this results in a web search when asked to set the Alarm for 1023pm. However Google do list this as a valid command... RESULT: Fail
Test Eight: How High is Mount Everest? 29,029feet bang on and instant answer. RESULT: Success
Test Nine: Tell me a joke? Asking the standard Google Voice to talk to me made me one. RESULT: Fail
Test Ten: Search Bonobo Apes, apparently my Northern Monkey accent isn't helping here and after two attempts I give up but it does seem to they they are Noble Apes lol RESULT: Fail
Test Eleven: Google Voice does not integrate with the Calendar app and offers no commands for it. However I can open up Google Calendar in my browser via Voice to input manually.
Still...RESULT: Fail
Test Twelve: Again as the standard Voice offering is not designed to talk back to you all this does is make me look like a twonk. However for me this beats S Voice and Siri hands down as the web search this results in gives me the YouTube Video for Crossing the Bridge of Death in Monty Python and the Holy Grail. Result: FAIL but laced with WIN
Test Thirteen: What's the best smart phone? Well having asked Google Voice it returns with a web search and in the top sponsored results I find the HTC One X with an average of 4 and half stars out of 5 from over 120 seller reviews. Not perfect as it doesn't take consumer reviews into consideration however as I get a result which neither Siri nor S-Voice does I say... RESULT: Success
Test Fourteen: Update Twitter, Again lack of app integration means another web search RESULT: Fail
Test Fifteen: Speed? What is the Capital of Iraq? Answer: Baghdad in 3 seconds flat...RESULT: Success
Conclusion: With seven successes and having read how the Siri and S-Voice offerings don't really fare much better my conclusion is that voice commands only serve their purpose while doing other tasks such as driving and you can't hold your phone. Leaving me with the same opinion I had at the outset, if you either brag about having Siri or I see you talking to your phone as they do in the ads in public, I reserve the right to tell you, you look like a tw*t.

You've entirely missed the point of Siri.
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MikeyMike01 said:
You've entirely missed the point of Siri.
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Disability accessibility tool? Make the human race even lazier? A friend for anti social or socially inept types?
Please be a little bit more constructive and tell me what you think the point of Siri is?
As you say I miss the point of Siri when all I've done is compare both offerings as they exist and work from a UK perspective as per the CNET article I fail to realise how me adding GVoice into the mix is missing the point of anything?
I've not even tried to explain what the point of either of the three is. My conclusion is based on personal opinion and even if Siri lives up to what its point is, you'll still look like a twonk using it out in public.

I agree that the human race will be getting lazier and fatter at the same time I'm afraid that we have become to dependent on our technology. It's a scary feeling.

SB13X You're a legend
SB13X said:
Disability accessibility tool? Make the human race even lazier? A friend for anti social or socially inept types?
Please be a little bit more constructive and tell me what you think the point of Siri is?
As you say I miss the point of Siri when all I've done is compare both offerings as they exist and work from a UK perspective as per the CNET article I fail to realise how me adding GVoice into the mix is missing the point of anything?
I've not even tried to explain what the point of either of the three is. My conclusion is based on personal opinion and even if Siri lives up to what its point is, you'll still look like a twonk using it out in public.
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I completely agree with you. Unless you're driving there is no reason to use voice recognition because the accuracy isn't there yet. Mike, interesting to see you weren't able to reply with any constructive reason why "the point of Siri" was missed in this very fair test of voice recognition. This leads me to conclude you're one of the people referred to who likes to brag about Siri or enjoys talking to his phone and looking like a tw*t.

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Why is multitasking good?

I have an argue with my friend who can't accept that multitasking is something which people need. He has an iPhone and I have a HTC TD2, I told him there are 100 reasons why multitasking is better and that iPhone is far behind because it can only run 1 process at the time.
Could you guys provide me with some reason WHY multitasking is good or better than just running 1 process at the time?
Enjoying music when navigating.
Push mail
Apps running in background open faster
online sync while playing games for example.
That sort of thing.
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Enjoying music when navigating.
Push mail
Apps running in background open faster
online sync while playing games for example.
That sort of thing.
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I actually took up most of these things and also the fact that you can talk to someone on the phone and go OUTSIDE the dialer and navigate to like email, messages and notes (very important for me) but what he says is this:
You can run music in background and use other programs at the same time.
Who the **** needs to go out of the dialer? Are you retarded? You can just say to the guy you're talking to that you will call him in 2 secs.
But that's exactly what you don't wanna do..
ArtieQ said:
I actually took up most of these things and also the fact that you can talk to someone on the phone and go OUTSIDE the dialer and navigate to like email, messages and notes (very important for me) but what he says is this:
You can run music in background and use other programs at the same time.
Who the **** needs to go out of the dialer? Are you retarded? You can just say to the guy you're talking to that you will call him in 2 secs.
But that's exactly what you don't wanna do..
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holy...
is that déjà-vu? exactly led this kind of kind of discussion with a collegue (quite bright otherwise) and listened to it between him and another of my colleagues
believe me, it's absolutely useless to discuss: any argument you lead will be smashed irrelevant of how reasonable it is
my personal opinion changed after that: it's got to be something like a general attitude in certain people who are at the same time (or for this reason?) mysteriously attracted to the iphone
spare your energy and leave them alone in their tiny little linear world, it's self inflicted imprisonment anyway; if they don't want to see the light, leave them in the dark
DrakenKorin said:
holy...
is that déjà-vu? exactly led this kind of kind of discussion with a collegue (quite bright otherwise) and listened to it between him and another of my colleagues
believe me, it's absolutely useless to discuss: any argument you lead will be smashed irrelevant of how reasonable it is
my personal opinion changed after that: it's got to be something like a general attitude in certain people who are at the same time (or for this reason?) mysteriously attracted to the iphone
spare your energy and leave them alone in their tiny little linear world, it's self inflicted imprisonment anyway; if they don't want to see the light, leave them in the dark
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Haha, that's amazing But you're right, it's useless to argue because it could go on forever and they will never realise the truth.
Ask him to listen to Internet radio and surf the Internet at the same time.
Ask him to listen to the Internet and use a music identifier program to find out the name and singer if that nice song.
Ask him to download a movie then while waiting for it to complete listen to his iPod music.
BTW iPod can and does multitasking the stock programs. It also run the stock program in the background and one third party program in the foreground. It just does not allow third party program to run in the background. Unless he jailbreaks or use OS 4.0.
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Ask him to listen to Internet radio and surf the Internet at the same time.
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it's not impossible with a lot of radio stations on the iPhone w/o jailbreaking - see section "1.2.1 Playing in the background" in my dedicated article at http://www.iphonelife.com/blog/87/e...need-know-about-listening-radio-iphone-part-i .
Note that both ooTunes and Pocket Tunes have received background playback capabilities in the meantime.
Tell him that multitasking is good because Steve Job's has added it to iPhone OS 4 (don't bother trying to explain the limits and conditions that come with it, you might give me a brain tumor).
That ought to change his world view real quick.
Menneisyys; said:
it's not impossible with a lot of radio stations on the iPhone w/o jailbreaking - see section "1.2.1 Playing in the background" in my dedicated article at http://www.iphonelife.com/blog/87/e...need-know-about-listening-radio-iphone-part-i .
Note that both ooTunes and Pocket Tunes have received background playback capabilities in the meantime.
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Strictly speaking you're right. I was just saying that in general it is the case. My own Internet radio has this feature too without jailbreak, but most of them can't do it without jailbreak.
Great article you've written there.
The human brain can in general only focus on two tasks at a time.
Same would go for the device.
You do not want a phone that while you are talking to somebody
1. also plays music
2. and is also providing turn-by-turn voice navigation
3. is reading your incoming text messages
4. announcing your appointments
Multi tasking only makes sense when the task themselves make sense to be done together.
Instant Messenger Programs
some program just end the connections when switch to other apps, causing you to log off from the server.
chikoo said:
The human brain can in general only focus on two tasks at a time.
Same would go for the device.
You do not want a phone that while you are talking to somebody
1. also plays music
2. and is also providing turn-by-turn voice navigation
3. is reading your incoming text messages
4. announcing your appointments
Multi tasking only makes sense when the task themselves make sense to be done together.
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I would say that the human brain can only really focus on one task at a time. We are terrible at multitasking despite protests to the contrary by some.
If I am reading a web page while listening to music, it is very unlikely that I am actually paying attention to the song or its lyrics. The same goes vice versa.
There is what we are currently focused on, and then there is background noise. If we try to split our attention, we usually end up doing both tasks less well.
Thus multitasking on computers is not usually about allowing us to do two things at once, it is about not shutting down or halting one task when we briefly switch our attention to another.
For many situations, simply suspending the operation of of a program until it regains focus is sufficient. But there are always, always exceptions where having the option of true multitasking will save a lot of headaches and frustrations. Usually this involves cases where the computer needs to maintain a persistent connection to a server such as for IM, SSH, etc.
The scenarios you mentioned all involve background apps interfering with the in-call speaker. This is easily solved by simply giving the phone "app" exclusive use of the external audio while a call is in session.
chikoo said:
The human brain can in general only focus on two tasks at a time.
Same would go for the device.
You do not want a phone that while you are talking to somebody
1. also plays music
2. and is also providing turn-by-turn voice navigation
3. is reading your incoming text messages
4. announcing your appointments
Multi tasking only makes sense when the task themselves make sense to be done together.
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Actually I'd find that very useful.
If I'm going for a long journey to somewhere new, I'll have my blackstone bluetoothed to my radio, giving directions from tomtom while either playing music from the storage card or internet radio. It's also recieving emails in the background. Reading out texts would be a boon as it would mean I'd not have to hit the home button, then read the text, then drop back to tomtom (which was merrily running in the background).
Similarly if I need to pull over and take a call, look up information in one of the notes and send an email after cutting and pasting that information, then drop back to tomtom without having to wait for it to find the gps signal again.
Today I had to phone the tax office, so switched from the dialer to notes to give them the reference number and take down any info they gave me. If I couldn't do that, I'd have to write the information on my hand or carry around a notebook and pen all the time.
chikoo; said:
The human brain can in general only focus on two tasks at a time.
Same would go for the device.
You do not want a phone that while you are talking to somebody
1. also plays music
2. and is also providing turn-by-turn voice navigation
3. is reading your incoming text messages
4. announcing your appointments
Multi tasking only makes sense when the task themselves make sense to be done together.
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Not disputing that at all. Users can't watch a video and use TomTom at the same time.
It makes sense that VOIP could continue to receive call in the background. Or download to continue in the background. Or GPS position tracking to continue if you havev to receive that call and when the call is finished your gps should be showing you at where you are without having to start it all over again. Or music, radio, podcast must be allowed to continue while reading an ebook or surf the net. These activities could go together for most users without distractions.
ArtieQ said:
I have an argue with my friend who can't accept that multitasking is something which people need. He has an iPhone and I have a HTC TD2, I told him there are 100 reasons why multitasking is better and that iPhone is far behind because it can only run 1 process at the time.
Could you guys provide me with some reason WHY multitasking is good or better than just running 1 process at the time?
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I have a good one, tell him to tell his boss that multitasking is bad...
Let the boss enlighten him... LoLz..
I have been talking to iphone users n have given up a loooooong time ago.. To them iphone is "God", so when u threaten or question their God... U know what happens next,haha...

Great idea for android app! KITT instead of Siri (or Iris and so on)!

Hey Devs!
I had a really great idea for a new app: what about making an app like Siri or Iris or Vlingo etc. in complete Knight Rider KITT Style?!
Of course the app should have the original looking red graphic animation, that moves when KITT is speaking and it should have a real voice output when answering questions, just like Siri but only with KITT like voice.
Is it possible to make this?
What do you think?
To my opinion, an app like this would be awesome, there are still many Knight Rider Fans out there!
Nice idea
Actually like the idea.
Good luck.
Regards.
The amount of money necessary to get ahold of enough server power and programmers to get even a fraction of siri's functionality would be enormous. Apple is a multi billion dollar company... Its nigh impossible for independent programmers and such to really keep up with them. Its a nice idea though
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Don't get me wrong, i just had the idea, i'm no developer, so i can't do it myself.
cliffahn said:
The amount of money necessary to get ahold of enough server power and programmers to get even a fraction of siri's functionality would be enormous. Apple is a multi billion dollar company... Its nigh impossible for independent programmers and such to really keep up with them. Its a nice idea though
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Anyone can search google using the correct api's. Independant programmers have built the basis for what we today know as "Android OS". This is quite possible, with quite a few virtual assitants availble in market for android. There are even cloud based servers available for free, so this is entirely possible. Specially when you look at the boys who are porting android to devices like the htc tytn ii/htc vogue etc
I found a very cool application (but too slow) can be an answer for you it is called voice actions , the voice is name jeanny but you can change the name to be KITT
I did it before reading your post !
Its possible, I'm not sure about the voice though, you would have to create it and make it Androids default voice because all the virtual assistant use Google API's, You could do it different, but its a cool idea.
Mr. Feeny's voice in my phone? Yes please.
Whenever I'm about to make a bad decision, it must say "Michael, wait..."
It's a great idea, but I would expand on that.
Firstly, the application should be modular. Siri is limited and lame. There's so many things I'd like it to be able to do though. This way you can use add ons to expand it's abilities. Maybe allow KITT to interface with my car, or updates from Facebook, and etc.
Secondly, make it able to get more then one voice. KITT is a wonderful idea, but there's a lot of voices I'd also like to hear. GlaDos from Portal, Hal from A Space Odyssey, or even Bender from Futurama.
Well, it could be narrowed down a bit. If the user says "What is ..." then, perhaps, Wolfram what they're asking for?
If they're trying to text or call someone, that also doesn't require a server owned by the creator...
It's not 100% foolproof, but it could be a good start.

Forget about S-Voice, Speaktoit Assistant App, is Prettier, Better and Easy to Score

Forget about S-Voice, the Speaktoit (Speak To It) Assistant App, is Prettier, Faster, Better and Easier to Score
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I downloaded S-Voice over a week ago. I was somewhat impressed, but kept running into a number of problems.
So I continued researching. I tried Vlingo, and number of other voice assist apps.
After all this, I've come to the conclusion the Speaktoit Assistant App is the best.
Give it a try, I think you will like it. Especially, if you have been frustrated witht he crippled functionality of S-Voice so far.
So for now, I say "Forget about S-Voice, the Speaktoit Assistant App, is Prettier, Faster, Better and Easier to Score"
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Been using Speaktoit Assistant for a looong time
That's why I always laugh a little when someone mentions Siri or S-Voice
Speaktoit craps on them both
I guess you should post some more info about that apk
Just remember that the leaked S-Voice isn't a finished product.
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I haven't used this one yet because the UI is hideous.
"Prettier" - I'm sorry, what..?
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Just remember that the leaked S-Voice isn't a finished product.
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Neither is Speaktoit.. it's a work in progress and it does fantastic. It's in the market for free, try it if you want to see for yourself. IMO, works way better than Siri, and my friends who have the iPhone agree..
You can change the avatar to be an microphone icon and use your background
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I will concur, this is a great app.
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1) That's the problem with applications being grabbed from a phone that hasn't hit the market yet and run on phones that aren't "officially" supported - somehow people still blame the developers.
2) Tell me if you understand these questions....
What is David Wright's career batting average?
What time is Grimm on tv?
Once a Voice Assistant can understand questions like that I will call it "useful". To me, all these programs are still in development stage. I've tried all of them (except S Voice) and they are all limited to pre-programmed commands and hit-or-miss some very simple everyday questions.
njmsmith said:
1) That's the problem with applications being grabbed from a phone that hasn't hit the market yet and run on phones that aren't "officially" supported - somehow people still blame the developers.
2) Tell me if you understand these questions....
What is David Wright's career batting average?
What time is Grimm on tv?
Once a Voice Assistant can understand questions like that I will call it "useful". To me, all these programs are still in development stage. I've tried all of them (except S Voice) and they are all limited to pre-programmed commands and hit-or-miss some very simple everyday questions.
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Ok, but Speaktoit still outperforms the alternatives...
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Best vlingo by far. Once navigation is back, it will be my daily driver.
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Neither is Speaktoit.. it's a work in progress and it does fantastic. It's in the market for free, try it if you want to see for yourself. IMO, works way better than Siri, and my friends who have the iPhone agree..
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Yeah, but where does Speaktoit get its information from? Both S-Voice and Siri get their info from Wolfram Alpha.
I'm waiting for Google's Assistant, aka Project Majel, to hit. I'm sure the Nexus devices will be among the first to get a taste. Instead of using Wolfram Alpha, Assistant will use Google's own search engine and their new Knowledge Graph.
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Yeah, but where does Speaktoit get its information from? Both S-Voice and Siri get their info from Wolfram Alpha.
I'm waiting for Google's Assistant, aka Project Majel, to hit. I'm sure the Nexus devices will be among the first to get a taste. Instead of using Wolfram Alpha, Assistant will use Google's own search engine and their new Knowledge Graph.
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Or you can just download the Wolfram Alpha app.
Customize Your SpeakToIt Avatar to your Personal Likes
Customize Your SpeakToIt Avatar to your Personal Likes
Wow, I just discovered that you can go into Settings and Customize your avatar.
I managed to enhance my already pretty avatar by changing her hair, eyes, lips, nose, etc.
Now when she speaks to me, I understand her in a more personal way.
You can also Build you own avatar,
Change You Avatat's Body, Hair, Brows, Eyes, Glasses, Nose, Mouth, Clothes
Change your avatar's Voice, FemaleUSA, MaleUSA, FemaleUK, MaleUK
Change your avatar's background.
You can also change your Te3xtToSpeech Engine - Google or Pico or Samsung (if installed)
I'm having fun with this SpeakToIt voice assistant app.
To be honest, im looking forward to utter since it seems to have the best functionality overall
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1508195
Probably common knowledge but I found if funny...
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App design is like a cartoon! Maybe if it was made more professional looking, I could use it. Now it is just a toy trying to ride on Siri's popularity. I would rather use Galaxy S voice. Even though it sucks. These days looks go hand in hand with performance.

[APP][2.2+] Catena - Anonymous and location based instant chat

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UPDATE: I've decided to discontinue my work on Catena, the project is too heavily reliant on community, and the time investment required to make it successful was several magnitudes higher than what I could offer. If anyone is interested in continuing this project let me know.
If you're interested in any of my other projects check out my site at: http://www.creepybit.co.uk
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Catena is an anonymous and location based instant chat client. The main purpose of Catena is to give you an anonymous outlet for calling out to others in your local area and meeting new people, without the burden of identity. Catena lets you chat in a typical instant chat environment, but also lets you post semi-permanent messages on a shared map, for the whole world to see!
Catena is free, there are no user accounts or signing up. The instant you install Catena you are able to chat. For those who need an identity, either to maintain a conversation or single yourself out for others, there is a type of disposable user name that you can change as often as you want. There are also chatroom like tags you can use that make your messages private and only viewable to others with the same tag.
You can find Catena on the Google Play store: https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=Creepy+Bit
I also have a website up with more info at: http://creepybit.co.uk
I started development on this app when I couldn't find an anonymous alternative. I'm a single developer working in my spare time around work, but I'm currently still managing to push out almost daily updates. Catena is currently in Alpha stage, meaning I'm still adding and changing features, and I'm still modifying the server equipment.
I'd really appreciate it if you guys could give this app a go. Catena has been live for a week and I currently have around thirty users. The users I have thus far have given me really great feedback, and I think with some more hard work down the way I can make this a really great app that people will love.
I have similar idea for Android app. This is good idea, but when not enough people have this app, this is not good working. I wish you more and more downloads!
Sounds awesome. This sounds like the Love Section on Craigslist where people say, "Oh I saw this sexy woman at Walmart. Hope to see you again".
It would be great to leave messages up for like a day and be able to show your GPS route. That way, at the end of the day, you could retrace your day and see if anyone left you a note. Like, "To the hot guy sitting at the bar in the blue collared shirt. I think I love you".
I always wanted a personal area chat room.
It could also be used for marketing such as "Burgers tonight are top notch!". Perhaps if things take off, you could sell extended comments that last longer.
I haven't used it yet, but how would this program handle a single place with lots of chatter? Is it a single point on the map that links to a chat room style interface? 1 map point per comment would create clutter. In my mind, a single comment would just be a dot on the map which would open for dialogue. You'd also probably want to allow accessing ANY of those locations on the fly. So if I want to go get dinner at Red Lobster downtown, I can find the location on the map and read the comments left there. Perhaps someone says, "4 hour wait @ 7pm". Or actually having the ability to ask someone that is physically there to put your name on the list, haha.
I can see SO many possibilities for this.
So perhaps you can only START a chat based off your location but you can join ANY. Also it might be a good idea to be able to disable GPS in case someone is at their home and doesn't want anyone to know where they presently are (can't start a convo but can join one). You don't want to hear about how crazies are killing girls using your app. lol
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I would do away with broadcast messages. Obviously they just annoying and childish. I would just show the dots to let you know there is a comment there, to open up the local chat for that dot. In the future, I would make the broadcasts a paid ad type thing. Like $20 a day... which is super cheap. Even right now, I could broadcast a business and 30 people would instantly see it.
As the app gets more popular, the map will get flooded with broadcasts and you'll be unable to even see the map. Icons should scale with the map. It's ok right now, but again, things may get crowded. You might also think about playing with the idea of making the icons semi-transparent so you can see the underlying map.
At this point I'm unsure how to even find other local chats; if it is even possible at all. All I see from the map are the broadcasts.
I just want to be able to create a chatroom at my GPS location and be able to have others leave comments. Right now, I see several broadcasts, but I can't chat with them. One was about a guy speeding. It would be fun to be able to go in that chat and leave a message like, "There is a guy going slow" or "That was me!"
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Sounds awesome. This sounds like the Love Section on Craigslist where people say, "Oh I saw this sexy woman at Walmart. Hope to see you again".
It would be great to leave messages up for like a day and be able to show your GPS route. That way, at the end of the day, you could retrace your day and see if anyone left you a note. Like, "To the hot guy sitting at the bar in the blue collared shirt. I think I love you".
I always wanted a personal area chat room.
It could also be used for marketing such as "Burgers tonight are top notch!". Perhaps if things take off, you could sell extended comments that last longer.
I haven't used it yet, but how would this program handle a single place with lots of chatter? Is it a single point on the map that links to a chat room style interface? 1 map point per comment would create clutter. In my mind, a single comment would just be a dot on the map which would open for dialogue. You'd also probably want to allow accessing ANY of those locations on the fly. So if I want to go get dinner at Red Lobster downtown, I can find the location on the map and read the comments left there. Perhaps someone says, "4 hour wait @ 7pm". Or actually having the ability to ask someone that is physically there to put your name on the list, haha.
I can see SO many possibilities for this.
So perhaps you can only START a chat based off your location but you can join ANY. Also it might be a good idea to be able to disable GPS in case someone is at their home and doesn't want anyone to know where they presently are (can't start a convo but can join one). You don't want to hear about how crazies are killing girls using your app. lol
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Some nice ideas, I'll let you discover it but it's basically the world is just one huge chat room, but you filter the messages you receive by range. So it ends up being a digital "everyone shouts and you choose how far you listen" kind of thing.
If a small area gets really popular and you can't hold a conversation then there are things called Hash Tags. They're basically a short keyword you filter your messages by and it's sort of like joining a chat room. For example I could apply the hash tag "Crime" (like in the screenshot), and it basically means I only see messages from other people with "Crime" and they are the only ones that see my messages.
For the map I'm currently in the process of implementing an upvote system. Messages on the map (I call them Broadcasts) will expire after a certain period, that period is shorter depending on how busy the area is, you can extend the life of a broadcast by 'Bumping' it.
I'd love to add new stuff as I go along. But as it's been said, the key thing I'm lacking is users.
Ahhh I see about the "how far you listen" type range thing. Thats fun and all... but really hinders the usefulness.... well let me think, no I guess it wouldn't if you simply picked a restaurant and did a Spoof Location from that area. I would change that and label it as something like, "Chat from here" or something. Also need to intregrate the map better. Maybe have that as the initial screen that users see. It is a pretty map and looks fantastic. Opening the app to just see an empty chat is a let down. I would initially start zoomed out so you can see the surrounding areas and users online. Tap = popup "Chat from Here" button.
Also a slider for chat radius that displays as a blue circle around your location. Having to go into settings to set a number is kind of awkward.
Focus on the map and let users pop in and out of chat as will based on their location.
Broadcasts expiring based on how busy the area is, is a good idea. I had no idea about the bumping. "Bumping" a thread, I get it... but I when I bumped the broadcasts, it didn't do anything. Maybe just a simple vote system like "Was this helpful: -1 and +1". Because honestly most of those broadcasts are retarded. Peeing on the benches? Smelly Town? Sand Vaginas? The community needs to be able to down vote and get rid of those messages as badly as they need to up vote. Regardless of votes, Broadcasts should still naturally go away after a set time. Like broadcasts = 1 hour with 1 day max.
Also the hash tags, perhaps make it more user friendly... such as a button for "Create a Group" or "Join a Group".
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Ahhh I see about the "how far you listen" type range thing. Thats fun and all... but really hinders the usefulness.... well let me think, no I guess it wouldn't if you simply picked a restaurant and did a Spoof Location from that area. I would change that and label it as something like, "Chat from here" or something. Also need to intregrate the map better. Maybe have that as the initial screen that users see. It is a pretty map and looks fantastic. Opening the app to just see an empty chat is a let down. I would initially start zoomed out so you can see the surrounding areas and users online. Tap = popup "Chat from Here" button.
Also a slider for chat radius that displays as a blue circle around your location. Having to go into settings to set a number is kind of awkward.
Focus on the map and let users pop in and out of chat as will based on their location.
Broadcasts expiring based on how busy the area is, is a good idea. I had no idea about the bumping. "Bumping" a thread, I get it... but I when I bumped the broadcasts, it didn't do anything. Maybe just a simple vote system like "Was this helpful: -1 and +1". Because honestly most of those broadcasts are retarded. Peeing on the benches? Smelly Town? Sand Vaginas? The community needs to be able to down vote and get rid of those messages as badly as they need to up vote. Regardless of votes, Broadcasts should still naturally go away after a set time. Like broadcasts = 1 hour with 1 day max.
Also the hash tags, perhaps make it more user friendly... such as a button for "Create a Group" or "Join a Group".
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This is good stuff, I'd love to implement most of this. I'm very close to starting the up vote system so I'm not sure how I'll be doing it yet but I definitely plan to have down voting. Or at least a report button! Thanks for the post!
Love the idea but u might wanna look into integrating facebook n g+ somehow.
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I agree, you need users and you should use social network to get them automatically
How about adding video chat for the devices with front camera?
What kind of social network integration would you want? Something like when you post a broadcast you get to share it on your wall? I'd be tempted to do something like that down the line.
Video chat would be hard because my server bandwidth would struggle to keep up, but I could certainly try adding an easy way to connect to other users and enter some sort of skype room or something.
I just uploaded version 31, this has the new upvoting and downvoting system. I called it Bump and Report just to be edgy and different (you love it), but the basic functionality is there. By default a Broadcast needs 10 reports to disappear, but the more it's bumped the more reports it'll take.
I'll see how it goes, there's room for lots of changes but it'll be server-side so I can do it over time in small increments.
Also, Yesterday evening I cleared the Broadcast database, which wiped out the whole map of Broadcasts. Clean slate now but it's looking rather barebones.
This weekend I'm possibly upgrading my servers again. You shouldn't notice any downtime though.
This is great! This has so much potential!
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great
Omg this is so cool The location spoofing is a great idea. I hope that you are aware that your app is unique and there is a lot of potential in it
Keep up the great work
Thanks guys
My current plan is going to be to add private messaging and some changes to client-server communication to fight spam (in anticipation). Is there anything else you guys feel should be added before I start the Beta phase? Once we're in Beta I'm going to be much more conservative with adding new features so now is the time to make a case. I'll consider practically anything.
This looks like it could be interesting.
Will keep an eye on it.
Hey guys, today I found out I'd apparently taken out server time synchronization at some point in the past. That's fixed now so there shouldn't be any odd problems with message order anymore. You might find that your messages appear in odd places but that's because your clock is offset from the servers time (not blaming you obviously, but I can't really fix that).
Version 32 is up, it includes some new stuff:
- haptic feedback on message receipt
- you can now disable the lingering tray icon
- Cast Range now defaults at 100,000km, I'll keep it like this until we reach a release version
Nice I see you are working on this really hard. Thats not a bad thing I'm looking forward for the private messaging feature

Assistant on Pixel compared to Siri on iPhone?

So what are your opinions on the Assistant on Pixel compared to Siri on iPhones?
Does googles AI backed Assistant steal the thunder?
Dude, have you been living on another planet for the past few years and just landed back on earth? Siri is a joke. Google Now is miles ahead. No one knows about google assistant yet, supposedly is better than Google Now.
I heard little about Google's Assistant and decide to search on google to gather more information about Assistant and finally I reach on one blog which gives detail info about the comparison of Google's Assistant with Siri and Alexa.
I am a newbie on Xda forums so I can't insert the link in my reply. But, I am telling you a name of the site and the name of the topic on that site which you have to open.
Site :- technologyreview.com
Topic :- Google’s Assistant Is More Ambitious Than Siri and Alexa
Google now was miles ahead, the new assistant is now light-years ahead. The assistant is just Google Now + AI. In all seriousness, Siri is a joke.lol. All the thunders been with Google search from the beginning, Siri was gimick.
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I heard little about Google's Assistant and decide to search on google to gather more information about Assistant and finally I reach on one blog which gives detail info about the comparison of Google's Assistant with Siri and Alexa.
I am a newbie on Xda forums so I can't insert the link in my reply. But, I am telling you a name of the site and the name of the topic on that site which you have to open.
Site :- technologyreview.com
Topic :- Google’s Assistant Is More Ambitious Than Siri and Alexa
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Thanks for the link, its a good read: https://www.technologyreview.com/s/602550/googles-assistant-is-more-ambitious-than-siri-and-alexa/
Siri isn't so much not in the same league as Google's voice search and Assistant, it's not even playing the same game. The lack of contextual awareness and inconsistent fallback behaviour (will it offer to do a web search? Will it just say it doesn't understand?) really let Siri down.
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Siri isn't so much not in the same league as Google's voice search and Assistant, it's not even playing the same game. The lack of contextual awareness and inconsistent fallback behaviour (will it offer to do a web search? Will it just say it doesn't understand?) really let Siri down.
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Not to mention Apple's piss poor voice recognition. Google nailed very accurate voice recognition and Apple still struggles with it. In fact, google even does contextual voice recognition and its miles ahead of Apple. i.e., I recently voice searched for "Mary Brigh hospital" and google first recognized it as "Mary Bright" but quickly corrected itself since it knew where I was, and knew that there is a "Mary Brigh" near me. It also does it regularly when I search for specific hotels or POIs near me. Smart stuff.
I ask Siri "How late is Family Video open tonight?" Siri response "I could not find you that answer", or something like that. I ask Google "How late is Family Video open tonight?" Google response "Family Video is open until 10:00pm."
I ask Siri, "Call Family Video." Response: "I have two Family Videos, one on this street and one on that street. Would you like me to call the one on this street?" I ask Google, "Call Family Video." Response: "Calling Family Video."

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