I have an argue with my friend who can't accept that multitasking is something which people need. He has an iPhone and I have a HTC TD2, I told him there are 100 reasons why multitasking is better and that iPhone is far behind because it can only run 1 process at the time.
Could you guys provide me with some reason WHY multitasking is good or better than just running 1 process at the time?
Enjoying music when navigating.
Push mail
Apps running in background open faster
online sync while playing games for example.
That sort of thing.
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Enjoying music when navigating.
Push mail
Apps running in background open faster
online sync while playing games for example.
That sort of thing.
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I actually took up most of these things and also the fact that you can talk to someone on the phone and go OUTSIDE the dialer and navigate to like email, messages and notes (very important for me) but what he says is this:
You can run music in background and use other programs at the same time.
Who the **** needs to go out of the dialer? Are you retarded? You can just say to the guy you're talking to that you will call him in 2 secs.
But that's exactly what you don't wanna do..
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I actually took up most of these things and also the fact that you can talk to someone on the phone and go OUTSIDE the dialer and navigate to like email, messages and notes (very important for me) but what he says is this:
You can run music in background and use other programs at the same time.
Who the **** needs to go out of the dialer? Are you retarded? You can just say to the guy you're talking to that you will call him in 2 secs.
But that's exactly what you don't wanna do..
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holy...
is that déjà-vu? exactly led this kind of kind of discussion with a collegue (quite bright otherwise) and listened to it between him and another of my colleagues
believe me, it's absolutely useless to discuss: any argument you lead will be smashed irrelevant of how reasonable it is
my personal opinion changed after that: it's got to be something like a general attitude in certain people who are at the same time (or for this reason?) mysteriously attracted to the iphone
spare your energy and leave them alone in their tiny little linear world, it's self inflicted imprisonment anyway; if they don't want to see the light, leave them in the dark
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holy...
is that déjà-vu? exactly led this kind of kind of discussion with a collegue (quite bright otherwise) and listened to it between him and another of my colleagues
believe me, it's absolutely useless to discuss: any argument you lead will be smashed irrelevant of how reasonable it is
my personal opinion changed after that: it's got to be something like a general attitude in certain people who are at the same time (or for this reason?) mysteriously attracted to the iphone
spare your energy and leave them alone in their tiny little linear world, it's self inflicted imprisonment anyway; if they don't want to see the light, leave them in the dark
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Haha, that's amazing But you're right, it's useless to argue because it could go on forever and they will never realise the truth.
Ask him to listen to Internet radio and surf the Internet at the same time.
Ask him to listen to the Internet and use a music identifier program to find out the name and singer if that nice song.
Ask him to download a movie then while waiting for it to complete listen to his iPod music.
BTW iPod can and does multitasking the stock programs. It also run the stock program in the background and one third party program in the foreground. It just does not allow third party program to run in the background. Unless he jailbreaks or use OS 4.0.
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Ask him to listen to Internet radio and surf the Internet at the same time.
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it's not impossible with a lot of radio stations on the iPhone w/o jailbreaking - see section "1.2.1 Playing in the background" in my dedicated article at http://www.iphonelife.com/blog/87/e...need-know-about-listening-radio-iphone-part-i .
Note that both ooTunes and Pocket Tunes have received background playback capabilities in the meantime.
Tell him that multitasking is good because Steve Job's has added it to iPhone OS 4 (don't bother trying to explain the limits and conditions that come with it, you might give me a brain tumor).
That ought to change his world view real quick.
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it's not impossible with a lot of radio stations on the iPhone w/o jailbreaking - see section "1.2.1 Playing in the background" in my dedicated article at http://www.iphonelife.com/blog/87/e...need-know-about-listening-radio-iphone-part-i .
Note that both ooTunes and Pocket Tunes have received background playback capabilities in the meantime.
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Strictly speaking you're right. I was just saying that in general it is the case. My own Internet radio has this feature too without jailbreak, but most of them can't do it without jailbreak.
Great article you've written there.
The human brain can in general only focus on two tasks at a time.
Same would go for the device.
You do not want a phone that while you are talking to somebody
1. also plays music
2. and is also providing turn-by-turn voice navigation
3. is reading your incoming text messages
4. announcing your appointments
Multi tasking only makes sense when the task themselves make sense to be done together.
Instant Messenger Programs
some program just end the connections when switch to other apps, causing you to log off from the server.
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The human brain can in general only focus on two tasks at a time.
Same would go for the device.
You do not want a phone that while you are talking to somebody
1. also plays music
2. and is also providing turn-by-turn voice navigation
3. is reading your incoming text messages
4. announcing your appointments
Multi tasking only makes sense when the task themselves make sense to be done together.
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I would say that the human brain can only really focus on one task at a time. We are terrible at multitasking despite protests to the contrary by some.
If I am reading a web page while listening to music, it is very unlikely that I am actually paying attention to the song or its lyrics. The same goes vice versa.
There is what we are currently focused on, and then there is background noise. If we try to split our attention, we usually end up doing both tasks less well.
Thus multitasking on computers is not usually about allowing us to do two things at once, it is about not shutting down or halting one task when we briefly switch our attention to another.
For many situations, simply suspending the operation of of a program until it regains focus is sufficient. But there are always, always exceptions where having the option of true multitasking will save a lot of headaches and frustrations. Usually this involves cases where the computer needs to maintain a persistent connection to a server such as for IM, SSH, etc.
The scenarios you mentioned all involve background apps interfering with the in-call speaker. This is easily solved by simply giving the phone "app" exclusive use of the external audio while a call is in session.
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The human brain can in general only focus on two tasks at a time.
Same would go for the device.
You do not want a phone that while you are talking to somebody
1. also plays music
2. and is also providing turn-by-turn voice navigation
3. is reading your incoming text messages
4. announcing your appointments
Multi tasking only makes sense when the task themselves make sense to be done together.
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Actually I'd find that very useful.
If I'm going for a long journey to somewhere new, I'll have my blackstone bluetoothed to my radio, giving directions from tomtom while either playing music from the storage card or internet radio. It's also recieving emails in the background. Reading out texts would be a boon as it would mean I'd not have to hit the home button, then read the text, then drop back to tomtom (which was merrily running in the background).
Similarly if I need to pull over and take a call, look up information in one of the notes and send an email after cutting and pasting that information, then drop back to tomtom without having to wait for it to find the gps signal again.
Today I had to phone the tax office, so switched from the dialer to notes to give them the reference number and take down any info they gave me. If I couldn't do that, I'd have to write the information on my hand or carry around a notebook and pen all the time.
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The human brain can in general only focus on two tasks at a time.
Same would go for the device.
You do not want a phone that while you are talking to somebody
1. also plays music
2. and is also providing turn-by-turn voice navigation
3. is reading your incoming text messages
4. announcing your appointments
Multi tasking only makes sense when the task themselves make sense to be done together.
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Not disputing that at all. Users can't watch a video and use TomTom at the same time.
It makes sense that VOIP could continue to receive call in the background. Or download to continue in the background. Or GPS position tracking to continue if you havev to receive that call and when the call is finished your gps should be showing you at where you are without having to start it all over again. Or music, radio, podcast must be allowed to continue while reading an ebook or surf the net. These activities could go together for most users without distractions.
ArtieQ said:
I have an argue with my friend who can't accept that multitasking is something which people need. He has an iPhone and I have a HTC TD2, I told him there are 100 reasons why multitasking is better and that iPhone is far behind because it can only run 1 process at the time.
Could you guys provide me with some reason WHY multitasking is good or better than just running 1 process at the time?
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I have a good one, tell him to tell his boss that multitasking is bad...
Let the boss enlighten him... LoLz..
I have been talking to iphone users n have given up a loooooong time ago.. To them iphone is "God", so when u threaten or question their God... U know what happens next,haha...
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Hello,
Is there a Windows Mobile application that will imitate a SenceCam? i.e. will take a picture say every 20 second and save it to review the days activity at a later time.
Guy
XDA Orbit 2.
I too am suspicious of various activity happening in my pocket and would like to keep tabs.
LMAO! Took words right out of my mouth!!!! Takes me back to...shall we say the days of self awareness??
Get a life??!!
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I too am suspicious of various activity happening in my pocket and would like to keep tabs.
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I suggest that you look and see what the Sencecam is used for! i.e. to help people that have problems with memory, alzimmers etc., not to check what is going on in your pocket, you ware the camera, hanging from your neck, facing forward.
I was really looking forward to intelligent input from forum members where there is no faction of wastrels which just browse the postings to make frivolous, inane, and immature comments, which leaves the message string going nowhere, and purely adds to masses of dross that accumulates on the web. Get a life.
Has anyone any serious suggestions please?
slick69 said:
Microsoft - Let others build on your platform instead of scrambling to fix your inadequacies!
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I dooo agree with this though!
grwsmith said:
Hello,
Is there a Windows Mobile application that will imitate a SenceCam? i.e. will take a picture say every 20 second and save it to review the days activity at a later time.
Guy
XDA Orbit 2.
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was surfing and came across these:
1) http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/Video/CameraTimer-19410.shtml
i tried it myself but the problem is i think it was made for w2003, se and wm5 but the description of the app seems to fit what you're after. btw, if you try it out make sure you have the config and exe files in one folder IN your ppc. they're sort of dependent on each other =)
2) http://www.ateksoft.com/features.html
haven't tried it but it does show interval times for taking snaps.
on another note, if you're into programming (or know of a good one), you can also opt to modify a third party application. i wouldn't touch your built-in cam as it may damage the software. so by having a third party app as your guinea pig then you're safe.
a while back when i was still using my xda 2, a member came up with a rapid shutter application. it's very useful if you want to take pictures in succession. my athena doesn't have this app and it works well despite the app being developed for wm2003se. my point: i would imagine it's simple to reverse engineer a third party application to put in intervals. if it can take pictures with 1 second intervals for rapid shots, i'm sure it can take it in 20 seconds each. the app is less than 20kb so i would think a program it can be tackled by a respectable programmer.
one thing to consider though would be your battery usage. if you plan to take pics for say a whole day, that would essentially mean your ppc would be "on" the whole time? that'll really drain your bat.
hope that helps
Hello,
I'm new here and I see a very smart guys around...I would like you to challange to give me some new, fresh ideas of apps/widgets. Doesn't matter how strage, crazy or funny is!
Can you do this?
Best regards
1) A srollable widget in witch you can place icons or other widgets so it acts like an app drawer
2) An app that can control an other android device like a remote control (already there for pc's). For axample: you can control your tablet that is connected to a tv.
As you said idea may sound crazy so would be great if you develop an app that cover the naked bodies when a porn website is opened on your device.
MrAsk said:
As you said idea may sound crazy so would be great if you develop an app that cover the naked bodies when a porn website is opened on your device.
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MrAsk said:
As you said idea may sound crazy so would be great if you develop an app that cover the naked bodies when a porn website is opened on your device.
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I don't think that would be possible with an application.
I think thats more of something that would need to be developed by the website owners.
Lukehluke said:
I don't think that would be possible with an application.
I think thats more of something that would need to be developed by the website owners.
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You obviously know nothing of image recognition. That's actually quite a simple task, for a seasoned developer, using existing (and publicly available) libraries.
Maybe not actual clothing, but it could certainly cover nudity.
make a widget 1x1, 2x1, 4x1 size (or any suitable) that shows missed call count, unread sms and emails
should display something like:
(in 1 row) 2 calls, 1 sms, 2 emails
or
(in a column)
2 calls
1 sms
2 emails
or
instead of text, put small icons
then ability to hide if count is zero or change color if number is greater than zero.
don't forget to have ability to choose email inbox (if many are used)
for 2x1 widget, add ability to have battery percentage display and next alarm (this can easily fit if icons for missed, unread "stuff" is used)
The idea is to have a small, yet very informative widget that packs only important information: missed call, unread sms and email, battery level, next alarm. and ability to configure each information (color, position, icon, ability to hide)
I'm sure if this is implemented (or at least 50%), people will like it!
Nothing crazy but just a music control widget (► Play ▌▌ Pause ■ Stop) for google listen and maybe a universal control for whatever is playing at the moment.
Great!!! Keep it up!!!
Thank you guys!!! Very nice.
You are creative minds, more ideas, please, come on!!!
I would like to develop a very good application, original, useful and funny and can offer a prize (like money) for the best idea.
I think I can set up a "Top 20" Ideas and to the first 3 some to offer prizes.
What do you think?
Best regards
chvvkumar said:
Nothing crazy but just a music control widget (► Play ▌▌ Pause ■ Stop) for google listen and maybe a universal control for whatever is playing at the moment.
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What do you mean google listen? Can more detailed explain?
Beast regards
Kikvorsman said:
1) A srollable widget in witch you can place icons or other widgets so it acts like an app drawer
2) An app that can control an other android device like a remote control (already there for pc's). For axample: you can control your tablet that is connected to a tv.
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Interesting...
1. Do you mean a launcher? There are some very good launchers (LauncherPro).
2. Like an Android Remote Control (something like VNC or Remote Desktop)?
Beast regards
I have one, and that, is to create music controls from the notification bar. Not sure if it involves a widget ;/ but would be great if someone could make it possible.
From a device that's quite unique. The backflip.
Doesn't simi folder widget already cover 1?
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Augmented reality?
What about augmented reality? Some ideas? What is your opinion about it?
Something using sensors, camera, gps?
No offense - if some people know more than others, it doesn't mean they have got a license to degrade others. Come on add some wit and real fun in your lives too. He said go crazy and give ideas, every body participated just like I did. At least my words made some of you smile and I believe what I wanted, I got.
I just wrote to make such application in fun; but since now top 3 ideas gonna have some prize too, so I'm gonna think deeply after my Monday's exam Chill folks.
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No offense - if some people know more than others, it doesn't mean they have got a license to degrade others. Come on add some wit and real fun in your lives too. He said go crazy and give ideas, every body participated just like I did. At least my words made some of you smile and I believe what I wanted, I got.
I just wrote to make such application in fun; but since now top 3 ideas gonna have some prize too, so I'm gonna think deeply after my Monday's exam Chill folks.
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Very good!!! Do it!!! And thank you!
Best regard
I'm looking for a app that fixes Parse Issues! Sometimes when I'm "Trying" to Install Certain Apps I've Downloaded I Can't... Because I get that Stupid "Parse Message"!
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I am motorola milestone user and I use CM7 11-02-18 's ROM. I have problem with GUN BROS game I can not play it.I can open the game but when the game try loading to begin it crash to desktop .Someone help me please.i like this game.
thank you
Please please please please please make a Google Talk widget! Tons of people want this but it seems like no one is up for making a widget.
A good widget would maybe being able to view your messages or quickly reply to messages using the widget without launching gTalk itself.
Going further, maybe a better gTalk client in itself that allows for popup windows and quick replies. There are tons of apps/widgets like this for SMS, just wish gTalk got some love as it is used fairly widely.
I'd say it would be a surefire way to rake in some dough as there is absolutely no competition on the market. There is only client available is the official gTalk client (not counting multi-protocol IM clients) and only 1 gTalk widget on the market (status changer).
How about the ability to take a picture of documents with your camera and be able to use the data in excel. Sort of a text to column app using your camera. $$$
I presume most of us have Mango now officially or unofficially so as the title states, what is your favourite feature?
Unrelated note; if anyone wants an invite to Google+ PM me
There are lots of little things I'm really enjoying, but I'll at least narrow the list down to two:
a) The ability to only require a lockscreen password after a set time interval. Surprisingly useful!
b) Improved ListBox behaviour. Makes AlphaJax ad many other apps a joy to use instead of a jerky mess!
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err.. the ability to search contact by company name ahahahah...
and office skydrive ...
Even though the mult-tasking isn't actually working yet, I am enjoying having a way to switch between different tasks/apps quickly, instead of hitting the back button a bunch of times. It will be really nice once the actual multi-tasking portion is working.
1. The timed interval for password from the locked screen,
2. Unified inbox.
3. Pretty good bar code reader in Bing. Wish it would bring up a few more/better shopping results.
The new Bing utilities are great.
Multitasking & all the API's released to developers in general. Will allow for many things I've wanted.
Updated email & calendar - linked inboxes, threaded emails, birthday/holiday/facebook calendars all important to me.
New voice commands & dictation
Ability to add groups, and group features (group email ect)
Save settings in Camera
Full skydrive sync
Those are the big ones, but the whole thing seems amazing so far.
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Even though the mult-tasking isn't actually working yet, I am enjoying having a way to switch between different tasks/apps quickly, instead of hitting the back button a bunch of times. It will be really nice once the actual multi-tasking portion is working.
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What else are they going to do with it?
I was under the impression this was how its going to be? I hope your right but I'm curious as what's going to be added?
Id like to see an x on each window to close or swipe up or down to close...
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Ie9 is my favorite upgrade. I like that the OS performance is better in most areas. I like the new Bing features and more informative tiles.
I like the new phone layouts for placing and taking calls.
Like that I can switch and app, but no 3rd party aps take advantage from it yet as they all have to resume... and looking for a way to close apps in the task manager....
There are more but I'm tired of typing
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hi
large buttons!
1. Xbox live screen
2. merged inboxes
1. new xbox live
2. custom friggin ringtones! ( still trying to figure out how to get the custom alert sounds working)
3.IE is way better!
EDIT: for some reason, the podcast downloading from the phone doesnt work. says i need to check my data connection.
So is IE9 faster for everyone? Because it is straight up balls for me >.<
Not only is it faster but it also loads the pages correctly (Finally) my favourite feature has to be threads, it is so damn useful
1.Multitasking (Adding X button will be Perfect)
2.Groups
3.Chatting in Facebook and Hotmail
4.Save Camera Options
5.Linked emails
6.Software speed
7.New way to shutdown the device by sliding the lock screen down after pressing shutdown button.
8.New Layout
9.Grouping app Alphabetically
10.Battery Saver
On the other hand, Some languages still not supported
Search result doesn't find anything
Noway to backup SMS
Still some errors as it is a beta version.
Audio Confirmations
Audio Confirmations! Especially when the locksreen is on and the voice asks you, "would you like to read, reply, or ignore the text".
This is a feature you have to enable in "Speech Settings". It is very useful. You can set it to always on, Bluetooth and Headsets, Bluetooth Only, or wired headset. Give it a try....
IMO the most impressives are :
1. The Unified Message system...
Now all messages (and i mean all SMS-MMS-Facebook-Win Live) are in one place and have the same way of working.
If you try to text a contact the system tells you if he is online (FB or Messanger) and offers to send the message via them.
2. Contacts and Groups. Make a group (family or friends) and put some ppl in the group.
Then pin the group to start page. Fisrt it will give you a fast dialing option for them, and the most impressive
is that any message or FB event/notification or fotos that comes from one of those ppl on the group
will be there live with nice rotating animation.
You must try this ...its Fantastic
I like the new Zune player with Smart DJ.
Social Notifications and Groupings...
This is my favorite. If I have a family group it lists the updates from Facebook or Live which is nice to see. No longer is it necessary to go through a useless FB list in search of specific components about people I want to know about (impossibly difficult to do with any lengthy FB contact list.)
General Social notifications - if someone makes a comment on your picture in FB or in Live I like how the ME tile becomes useful by flipping over and giving you the notification. This is extremely useful to stay on top of the things you care about.
Pictures
I like the dynamic change of the tile - it's a nice eye candy feature
Turning a online gallary picture into a wallpaper is easy without copying to the phone
The people hub is pretty nice to see all your top contacted friend's picture quickly and easily
IE9 - much improved - EXTREMELY better
Local Scout - cool as hell
MOST USED TOOL - Voice to Text for SMS - absolutely killer feature with almost a 90% accuracy rating on short phrases.
Too many to list..
Here are my favorites in no particular order -
1. Shortcut to "Now Playing" on the volume drop down for music
2. unified messaging via Threads
3. Bing Vision
4. Updated zune player w/ "Related" artists and smart DJ, clearly marked downloadable songs for zune pass
5. Faster application and game installs
6. Improved Xbox live interface
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UPDATE: I've decided to discontinue my work on Catena, the project is too heavily reliant on community, and the time investment required to make it successful was several magnitudes higher than what I could offer. If anyone is interested in continuing this project let me know.
If you're interested in any of my other projects check out my site at: http://www.creepybit.co.uk
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Catena is an anonymous and location based instant chat client. The main purpose of Catena is to give you an anonymous outlet for calling out to others in your local area and meeting new people, without the burden of identity. Catena lets you chat in a typical instant chat environment, but also lets you post semi-permanent messages on a shared map, for the whole world to see!
Catena is free, there are no user accounts or signing up. The instant you install Catena you are able to chat. For those who need an identity, either to maintain a conversation or single yourself out for others, there is a type of disposable user name that you can change as often as you want. There are also chatroom like tags you can use that make your messages private and only viewable to others with the same tag.
You can find Catena on the Google Play store: https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=Creepy+Bit
I also have a website up with more info at: http://creepybit.co.uk
I started development on this app when I couldn't find an anonymous alternative. I'm a single developer working in my spare time around work, but I'm currently still managing to push out almost daily updates. Catena is currently in Alpha stage, meaning I'm still adding and changing features, and I'm still modifying the server equipment.
I'd really appreciate it if you guys could give this app a go. Catena has been live for a week and I currently have around thirty users. The users I have thus far have given me really great feedback, and I think with some more hard work down the way I can make this a really great app that people will love.
I have similar idea for Android app. This is good idea, but when not enough people have this app, this is not good working. I wish you more and more downloads!
Sounds awesome. This sounds like the Love Section on Craigslist where people say, "Oh I saw this sexy woman at Walmart. Hope to see you again".
It would be great to leave messages up for like a day and be able to show your GPS route. That way, at the end of the day, you could retrace your day and see if anyone left you a note. Like, "To the hot guy sitting at the bar in the blue collared shirt. I think I love you".
I always wanted a personal area chat room.
It could also be used for marketing such as "Burgers tonight are top notch!". Perhaps if things take off, you could sell extended comments that last longer.
I haven't used it yet, but how would this program handle a single place with lots of chatter? Is it a single point on the map that links to a chat room style interface? 1 map point per comment would create clutter. In my mind, a single comment would just be a dot on the map which would open for dialogue. You'd also probably want to allow accessing ANY of those locations on the fly. So if I want to go get dinner at Red Lobster downtown, I can find the location on the map and read the comments left there. Perhaps someone says, "4 hour wait @ 7pm". Or actually having the ability to ask someone that is physically there to put your name on the list, haha.
I can see SO many possibilities for this.
So perhaps you can only START a chat based off your location but you can join ANY. Also it might be a good idea to be able to disable GPS in case someone is at their home and doesn't want anyone to know where they presently are (can't start a convo but can join one). You don't want to hear about how crazies are killing girls using your app. lol
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I would do away with broadcast messages. Obviously they just annoying and childish. I would just show the dots to let you know there is a comment there, to open up the local chat for that dot. In the future, I would make the broadcasts a paid ad type thing. Like $20 a day... which is super cheap. Even right now, I could broadcast a business and 30 people would instantly see it.
As the app gets more popular, the map will get flooded with broadcasts and you'll be unable to even see the map. Icons should scale with the map. It's ok right now, but again, things may get crowded. You might also think about playing with the idea of making the icons semi-transparent so you can see the underlying map.
At this point I'm unsure how to even find other local chats; if it is even possible at all. All I see from the map are the broadcasts.
I just want to be able to create a chatroom at my GPS location and be able to have others leave comments. Right now, I see several broadcasts, but I can't chat with them. One was about a guy speeding. It would be fun to be able to go in that chat and leave a message like, "There is a guy going slow" or "That was me!"
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Sounds awesome. This sounds like the Love Section on Craigslist where people say, "Oh I saw this sexy woman at Walmart. Hope to see you again".
It would be great to leave messages up for like a day and be able to show your GPS route. That way, at the end of the day, you could retrace your day and see if anyone left you a note. Like, "To the hot guy sitting at the bar in the blue collared shirt. I think I love you".
I always wanted a personal area chat room.
It could also be used for marketing such as "Burgers tonight are top notch!". Perhaps if things take off, you could sell extended comments that last longer.
I haven't used it yet, but how would this program handle a single place with lots of chatter? Is it a single point on the map that links to a chat room style interface? 1 map point per comment would create clutter. In my mind, a single comment would just be a dot on the map which would open for dialogue. You'd also probably want to allow accessing ANY of those locations on the fly. So if I want to go get dinner at Red Lobster downtown, I can find the location on the map and read the comments left there. Perhaps someone says, "4 hour wait @ 7pm". Or actually having the ability to ask someone that is physically there to put your name on the list, haha.
I can see SO many possibilities for this.
So perhaps you can only START a chat based off your location but you can join ANY. Also it might be a good idea to be able to disable GPS in case someone is at their home and doesn't want anyone to know where they presently are (can't start a convo but can join one). You don't want to hear about how crazies are killing girls using your app. lol
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Some nice ideas, I'll let you discover it but it's basically the world is just one huge chat room, but you filter the messages you receive by range. So it ends up being a digital "everyone shouts and you choose how far you listen" kind of thing.
If a small area gets really popular and you can't hold a conversation then there are things called Hash Tags. They're basically a short keyword you filter your messages by and it's sort of like joining a chat room. For example I could apply the hash tag "Crime" (like in the screenshot), and it basically means I only see messages from other people with "Crime" and they are the only ones that see my messages.
For the map I'm currently in the process of implementing an upvote system. Messages on the map (I call them Broadcasts) will expire after a certain period, that period is shorter depending on how busy the area is, you can extend the life of a broadcast by 'Bumping' it.
I'd love to add new stuff as I go along. But as it's been said, the key thing I'm lacking is users.
Ahhh I see about the "how far you listen" type range thing. Thats fun and all... but really hinders the usefulness.... well let me think, no I guess it wouldn't if you simply picked a restaurant and did a Spoof Location from that area. I would change that and label it as something like, "Chat from here" or something. Also need to intregrate the map better. Maybe have that as the initial screen that users see. It is a pretty map and looks fantastic. Opening the app to just see an empty chat is a let down. I would initially start zoomed out so you can see the surrounding areas and users online. Tap = popup "Chat from Here" button.
Also a slider for chat radius that displays as a blue circle around your location. Having to go into settings to set a number is kind of awkward.
Focus on the map and let users pop in and out of chat as will based on their location.
Broadcasts expiring based on how busy the area is, is a good idea. I had no idea about the bumping. "Bumping" a thread, I get it... but I when I bumped the broadcasts, it didn't do anything. Maybe just a simple vote system like "Was this helpful: -1 and +1". Because honestly most of those broadcasts are retarded. Peeing on the benches? Smelly Town? Sand Vaginas? The community needs to be able to down vote and get rid of those messages as badly as they need to up vote. Regardless of votes, Broadcasts should still naturally go away after a set time. Like broadcasts = 1 hour with 1 day max.
Also the hash tags, perhaps make it more user friendly... such as a button for "Create a Group" or "Join a Group".
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Ahhh I see about the "how far you listen" type range thing. Thats fun and all... but really hinders the usefulness.... well let me think, no I guess it wouldn't if you simply picked a restaurant and did a Spoof Location from that area. I would change that and label it as something like, "Chat from here" or something. Also need to intregrate the map better. Maybe have that as the initial screen that users see. It is a pretty map and looks fantastic. Opening the app to just see an empty chat is a let down. I would initially start zoomed out so you can see the surrounding areas and users online. Tap = popup "Chat from Here" button.
Also a slider for chat radius that displays as a blue circle around your location. Having to go into settings to set a number is kind of awkward.
Focus on the map and let users pop in and out of chat as will based on their location.
Broadcasts expiring based on how busy the area is, is a good idea. I had no idea about the bumping. "Bumping" a thread, I get it... but I when I bumped the broadcasts, it didn't do anything. Maybe just a simple vote system like "Was this helpful: -1 and +1". Because honestly most of those broadcasts are retarded. Peeing on the benches? Smelly Town? Sand Vaginas? The community needs to be able to down vote and get rid of those messages as badly as they need to up vote. Regardless of votes, Broadcasts should still naturally go away after a set time. Like broadcasts = 1 hour with 1 day max.
Also the hash tags, perhaps make it more user friendly... such as a button for "Create a Group" or "Join a Group".
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This is good stuff, I'd love to implement most of this. I'm very close to starting the up vote system so I'm not sure how I'll be doing it yet but I definitely plan to have down voting. Or at least a report button! Thanks for the post!
Love the idea but u might wanna look into integrating facebook n g+ somehow.
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I agree, you need users and you should use social network to get them automatically
How about adding video chat for the devices with front camera?
What kind of social network integration would you want? Something like when you post a broadcast you get to share it on your wall? I'd be tempted to do something like that down the line.
Video chat would be hard because my server bandwidth would struggle to keep up, but I could certainly try adding an easy way to connect to other users and enter some sort of skype room or something.
I just uploaded version 31, this has the new upvoting and downvoting system. I called it Bump and Report just to be edgy and different (you love it), but the basic functionality is there. By default a Broadcast needs 10 reports to disappear, but the more it's bumped the more reports it'll take.
I'll see how it goes, there's room for lots of changes but it'll be server-side so I can do it over time in small increments.
Also, Yesterday evening I cleared the Broadcast database, which wiped out the whole map of Broadcasts. Clean slate now but it's looking rather barebones.
This weekend I'm possibly upgrading my servers again. You shouldn't notice any downtime though.
This is great! This has so much potential!
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great
Omg this is so cool The location spoofing is a great idea. I hope that you are aware that your app is unique and there is a lot of potential in it
Keep up the great work
Thanks guys
My current plan is going to be to add private messaging and some changes to client-server communication to fight spam (in anticipation). Is there anything else you guys feel should be added before I start the Beta phase? Once we're in Beta I'm going to be much more conservative with adding new features so now is the time to make a case. I'll consider practically anything.
This looks like it could be interesting.
Will keep an eye on it.
Hey guys, today I found out I'd apparently taken out server time synchronization at some point in the past. That's fixed now so there shouldn't be any odd problems with message order anymore. You might find that your messages appear in odd places but that's because your clock is offset from the servers time (not blaming you obviously, but I can't really fix that).
Version 32 is up, it includes some new stuff:
- haptic feedback on message receipt
- you can now disable the lingering tray icon
- Cast Range now defaults at 100,000km, I'll keep it like this until we reach a release version
Nice I see you are working on this really hard. Thats not a bad thing I'm looking forward for the private messaging feature
Hey there,
I'm currently writing my thesis on "connection between context and creativity of persons" and made a simple note taking app for this. Every time you work on an idea (e.g. "How to get my cat to like me more") several contexts are collected (location and date) which will be send to a server for later analysis.
The long goal will be an app that supports you in your creativity and will notify you when you are in a similar creative context.
More info and the APK can be found here: http://apptest.willey.de
Thanks for your help!
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Hey there,
I'm currently writing my thesis on "connection between context and creativity of persons" and made a simple note taking app for this. Every time you work on an idea (e.g. "How to get my cat to like me more") several contexts are collected (location and date) which will be send to a server for later analysis.
The long goal will be an app that supports you in your creativity and will notify you when you are in a similar creative context.
More info and the APK can be found here: http://apptest.willey.de
Thanks for your help!
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Based on the description, you have me wondering why I need an app to tell me when I'm being creative. Or am I missing something? This is being asked because I'm curious, not to be argumentative.
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Based on the description, you have me wondering why I need an app to tell me when I'm being creative. Or am I missing something? This is being asked because I'm curious, not to be argumentative.
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Yes that sounds weird
Imagine a student who works on a project with some fellow students. And they are in the "Idea Phase" where everyone should collect some Ideas which will be discussed in the next group meeting. Everyone knows how this works. One hour before the next meeting we write down some ****ty ideas and that's it.
What could you do about this?
Set some fixed reminders like "Every Day at 8:00 pm, COLLECT IDEAS FOR PROJECT!!"
So every day at 8:00 pm you get a reminder no matter what your actual context is. If you don't feel like thinking about the project you dismiss the reminder and that's it
The goal of this app would be that it waits until you are in a similar situation (f.e. in a cafe, in a park, at home, in the evening, in the morning, on mondays, ...) and then suggests "Hey wanna think about your project?"
I hope I could make it a little bit clearer, english is not my native language
Your English is fine, in fact, while not prefect, better than quite a few native tongue, or fingers if you will.
So based on a calendar or location you can set reminders? Does it, or can it, tie into Google products such as: Now, Calendar or Keep?
Unfortunately ATM the app is purely for evaluation purposes to see if there are any patterns in usage or if creativity occurs just randomly. Developing a full App would be the next step if any patterns are found. Without patterns the "intelligent notifications" wouldn't make any sense I think
This almost sounds like the chicken and the egg argument. You need to find patterns before intelligent notifications, but without knowing when to prompt, how are patterns determined?
A typical note taking app like Keep, tied into a time keeper like calendar with the geolocation ability of Now would partially answer your issue. "Ok Google. Remind me to enter project ideas in Keep everyday when I get to work." Not sure Google now is quite there yet on its own, but there are things like AutoVoice with Tasker that would do those types of things now.
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Unfortunately ATM the app is purely for evaluation purposes to see if there are any patterns in usage or if creativity occurs just randomly. Developing a full App would be the next step if any patterns are found. Without patterns the "intelligent notifications" wouldn't make any sense I think
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As for when creativity happens, it will probably be determined to be individualistic. Some will display randomly, some during sleep and wake up to record. Others may only be prompted by environment as opposed to scheduling like work (think song writers or authors).
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This almost sounds like the chicken and the egg argument. You need to find patterns before intelligent notifications, but without knowing when to prompt, how are patterns determined?
A typical note taking app like Keep, tied into a time keeper like calendar with the geolocation ability of Now would partially answer your issue. "Ok Google. Remind me to enter project ideas in Keep everyday when I get to work." Not sure Google now is quite there yet on its own, but there are things like AutoVoice with Tasker that would do those types of things now.
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As for when creativity happens, it will probably be determined to be individualistic. Some will display randomly, some during sleep and wake up to record. Others may only be prompted by environment as opposed to scheduling like work (think song writers or authors).
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The problem with "traditional" Solutions like Tasker/AutoVoice would be that you enter those notifications yourself. So you set notifications when you plan to be creative. My idea is to look at your past, find "creative highs" and notify you when you are in a similar situation.
Examples would be
--> Person X tends to work on his idea on mondays and fridays in the afternoon when he is at location X but never after 9:00pm.
--> Person Y worked on his ideas in a park nearby when the sun was shining
--> Person Z tends to work in cafes in the morning
...
To find these patterns (if there are any), is the first step. The next step would be to implement the intelligent notifications based on the users past behavior.
--> Welcome home, time to think about your Idea "Solve world hunger"
--> Hey look at the beautiful weather. Time to go outside and think about your "Cat Problem" ?
--> There are 5 Cafes nearby, time to think about "how to take over the world"?
So the agenda looks like this
Track users creativity to see if there are any patterns
Create notifications based on this
???
Profit
Willey1986 said:
The problem with "traditional" Solutions like Tasker/AutoVoice would be that you enter those notifications yourself. So you set notifications when you plan to be creative. My idea is to look at your past, find "creative highs" and notify you when you are in a similar situation.
Examples would be
--> Person X tends to work on his idea on mondays and fridays in the afternoon when he is at location X but never after 9:00pm.
--> Person Y worked on his ideas in a park nearby when the sun was shining
--> Person Z tends to work in cafes in the morning
...
To find these patterns (if there are any), is the first step. The next step would be to implement the intelligent notifications based on the users past behavior.
--> Welcome home, time to think about your Idea "Solve world hunger"
--> Hey look at the beautiful weather. Time to go outside and think about your "Cat Problem" ?
--> There are 5 Cafes nearby, time to think about "how to take over the world"?
So the agenda looks like this
Track users creativity to see if there are any patterns
Create notifications based on this
???
Profit
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Tasker can be utilized and is utilized exactly as you have described. There are "assistant" apps/tasks that allow events to be kicked off automagically based on environment: location, light sensor, what WiFi you're connected to, time of day or day of week, etc.
I can have a task set that will turn on my WiFi when I get to work if it is Monday-Friday before 5p. It can also make sure to turn off my Bluetooth and kick off my time recording app. When i arrive home, a textthingsred off to my wife letting her know I'm home so she can add to my honey do list. These tasks run apps, turn things off and on all based on location and calendar.
I'm not trying to make a case for utilizing tasker and other apps to do what you're trying to do. Getting all of that stuff configured is not the easiest thing to do. Just mentioning it is possible and being done.
Now if you can have your app recognize patterns and trends in how people think (their creativeness), you're onto something beyond this university assignment.
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Tasker can be utilized and is utilized exactly as you have described. There are "assistant" apps/tasks that allow events to be kicked off automagically based on environment: location, light sensor, what WiFi you're connected to, time of day or day of week, etc.
I can have a task set that will turn on my WiFi when I get to work if it is Monday-Friday before 5p. It can also make sure to turn off my Bluetooth and kick off my time recording app. When i arrive home, a textthingsred off to my wife letting her know I'm home so she can add to my honey do list. These tasks run apps, turn things off and on all based on location and calendar.
I'm not trying to make a case for utilizing tasker and other apps to do what you're trying to do. Getting all of that stuff configured is not the easiest thing to do. Just mentioning it is possible and being done.
Now if you can have your app recognize patterns and trends in how people think (their creativeness), you're onto something beyond this university assignment.
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I know Tasker but I think it is horribly complex and still you have to program it yourself when to notify you or do certain actions. For someone who is brainstorming on a project and just wants to be reminded from time to time Tasker might be overkill.
I don't want to analyze the users behaviour or analyze how people think. In the best case no data will leave the device because everything could be done locally (Get current locations type via Openstreetmaps, search similar locations, search current weather conditions, ...). For my thesis I just want to see if there are simple but interesting regularities like 90% of my users used the app in the morning, they rarely switched locations when brainstorming, .... Or in the worst case no patterns at all.
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I know Tasker but I think it is horribly complex and still you have to program it yourself when to notify you or do certain actions. For someone who is brainstorming on a project and just wants to be reminded from time to time Tasker might be overkill.
I don't want to analyze the users behaviour or analyze how people think. In the best case no data will leave the device because everything could be done locally (Get current locations type via Openstreetmaps, search similar locations, search current weather conditions, ...). For my thesis I just want to see if there are simple but interesting regularities like 90% of my users used the app in the morning, they rarely switched locations when brainstorming, .... Or in the worst case no patterns at all.
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Something to think about, the 90% of the users that you talk about may only "be creative" in one or very similar ways and may not give you an adequate picture of the data you're trying to acquire.
Your app may only appeal to one segment of the creative audience.
It's already been shown that people learn in three different ways and many of those often blend two of the designations. Seeing, hearing and doing. Being creative isn't going to be any different, just look at the examples I've started before.
You're going to have to design your app with multiple interfaces that will appeal to different audiences. A robotics engineer, oil painter, song writer, dancer, marketing executive aren't going to think and record notes intuitively the same way.