Heard that Super Amoled HD is going to have a pentile matrix leaving behind the usual RGB.Utlization of the PenTile matrix means details won't be as distinct as they would be with a normal RGB one. I don't know what they mean exactly but does it affect the picture clarity. I love my Super Amoled plus in my galaxy s2 i love the colors. This new HD 720p screen do you thing will replicate the colors same as Super Amoled Plus. Well i am sure with 720p tiny letters can are distinctly shown but my worry is about the colors. I love changing wallpapers on my S2 colors look very vibrant i don't want to loose that feel.
Guess we first have to see one before launching opinions into thin air. Might be awesome, might be average. Time will tell
Well hopefully it won't have the yellowish side problem
The original Galaxy S had a pentile display, so there is your comparison.
They will just scale things up, but it will be clearer/cripser
They will probably just change some of the settings to make the colors .. Better [Perhaps]
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So this should be in the Galaxy S II General forum then?
Guess, probably, hopefully....
Excellent, very helpful.
This belongs on a developer's forum because.....?
Is there a "Wild-Conjecture-Based-On-No-Facts-Whatsoever-For-A-Phone-No-one -Has-Seen-And-Does-Not-Yet-Exist" section that I'm missing?
Flame retardant undies on - fire away...
johncmolyneux said:
So this should be in the Galaxy S II General forum then?
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Actually, it's not related to the SGS 2 in any ways. Therefore I think it should be in General Discussion.
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Hi,
I have published some thoughts regarding the Nexus One vs. Nexus S and how the manufacturers handled the job. Would be great if you could give me feedback with your thoughts.
Which manufacturer can create the best Nexus experience?
http://smartphoneblogging.com/2011/...acturer-should-deliver-the-next-google-phone/
Ok, I'm not quite happy with what you've said...
Nexus one vs nexus s hardware.
Both are using different hardware. N1 using Qualcomm and ns using arm. If you compare both of them thoroughly, arm so much is better than Qualcomm. E.g. Fast, low battery usage.
Compare hardware and software isn't enough. You should compare camera, lens, video, screen colours, etc.
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I skimmed thru it... one flaw the nexus S has is Google Maps... when on the road I test both phones and surely enough Nexus One Was Always Connected.. have them both On AT&T
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YourMainDude said:
I skimmed thru it... one flaw the nexus S has is Google Maps... when on the road I test both phones and surely enough Nexus One Was Always Connected.. have them both On AT&T
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HTC has better WiFi, network and GPS chips..
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good write up! nexus s is more secksy
Cool write up but I strongly disagree on the super amoled vs super LCD. I think samoled looks much much better than any LCD technology out there. And most nexus s users here would agree
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obsanity said:
Cool write up but I strongly disagree on the super amoled vs super LCD. I think samoled looks much much better than any LCD technology out there. And most nexus s users here would agree
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I agree for sure. I rooted my friends evo last night and put miui on there and even his phone on full brightness my screen looks so much better its ridiculous. I will never buy another phone with out super amoled display.
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I say htc for looks and beats but samsung for hardware I mean they got Super Amoled HD, exynos 1.5ghz dual-core, and etc
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Drzfr3shboialex said:
I say htc for looks and beats but samsung for hardware I mean they got Super Amoled HD, exynos 1.5ghz dual-core, and etc
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You can't be serious.
The wolfson DAC in our Samsung phones are the highest quality sound processors available in any phone.
Samsung is my new favorite phone manufacturer. HTC designs seem so played out these days. The Nexus S is still the sleekest phone on the market.
I wish I could see Johnny Cash holding a Nexus S. Black suit, shirt and phone.
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Ok, I'm not quite happy with what you've said...
Nexus one vs nexus s hardware.
Both are using different hardware. N1 using Qualcomm and ns using arm. If you compare both of them thoroughly, arm so much is better than Qualcomm. E.g. Fast, low battery usage.
Compare hardware and software isn't enough. You should compare camera, lens, video, screen colours, etc.
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Um...... Both companies use ARM based processors. In fact, every processor in every Android phone is ARM based. What you could say is that Samsung makes a better ARM processor than htc.
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While i have not ever handled a nexus one personally. I have however spent quite a lot of time with the HTC desire, which is more or less identical to the nexus one.
In terms of hardware, the nexus s is overall superior on paper and in practise. The 540 gpu in the nexus s is far more powerful than the adreno in the nexus one/desire.
The hummingbird in the nexus s again gives more performance than the first generation snapdragon in the nexus one. Both got good cameras in my opinion.
In terms of sound and music, i think the Samsung nexus s has the best audio output I've ever experienced as an mp3 player. With voodoo control the audio is amazing. No other word to use. Try it and see.
Build quality comes down to preference i think. Both use somewhat different materials. I like both.
When it comes to looks? No doubt in my mind...the nexus s is the most sexiest looking thing in the smartphone business. So God damn sexy its silly...lol
The display is again down to preference i suppose. But Super AMOLED is something real special. The colours are amazing again. With voodoo controls it gets even better with more customization. Just Wow. If i ever go to normal LCD displays again, how i will survive without super AMOLED i do not know. Its awesome.
Where the nexus one shines however is the inclusion of SD card input. That's the only real feature i wish the nexus s had. Also, although it has not been a problem for all the last 11 months I've had the handset, i do wish we had at least 1 gig of ram instead of the 512 mgb available.
Overall i think Samsung did a terrific job with the nexus s. Their hardware overall, and I'm not just speaking of Smartphones, are more often than not simply excellent. Quality through and through.
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Um...... Both companies use ARM based processors. In fact, every processor in every Android phone is ARM based. What you could say is that Samsung makes a better ARM processor than htc.
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HTC is not making CPUs ... They are using Qualcomm's chipsets as far as I know
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Both got good cameras in my opinion.
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Everything else is fine, but I can't agree with this. Desire has very very bad camera in my opinion. Camera in Nexus S is not great, but it is way better.
The things you mentioned have been covered by a lot of reviews. I wanted to look from different angles.
Regarding hardware: I had the Nexus S and Nexus One side by side for some time. Both running gingerbread, and the Nexus S wasn't faster than the Nexus One. Only games are better and more fluid. I even had some instances where my Nexus S would freeze, never had such issues with the Nexus One.
In the end benchmarks don't tell anything, because the real life usage counts, and there is no big performance jump from Nexus One to Nexus S.
melvinchng said:
Ok, I'm not quite happy with what you've said...
Nexus one vs nexus s hardware.
Both are using different hardware. N1 using Qualcomm and ns using arm. If you compare both of them thoroughly, arm so much is better than Qualcomm. E.g. Fast, low battery usage.
Compare hardware and software isn't enough. You should compare camera, lens, video, screen colours, etc.
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Yep. HTC is clearly better in this regard.
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HTC has better WiFi, network and GPS chips..
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Yeah, the whole lcd vs. AMOLED issue is a matter of personal taste. Some people prefer AMOLED colors, others LCD clearness.
Since Samsung introduced super AMOLED plus (without Pentile matrix) the AMOLED screens have perfect text too. Finally no fuzzy text.
obsanity said:
Cool write up but I strongly disagree on the super amoled vs super LCD. I think samoled looks much much better than any LCD technology out there. And most nexus s users here would agree
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Tenhi said:
Everything else is fine, but I can't agree with this. Desire has very very bad camera in my opinion. Camera in Nexus S is not great, but it is way better.
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Well...I haven't really compared the cameras to a great extent. They both seemed fine and good enough cameras but i guess it stands to reason the nexus s would be better as it was released almost a year after the first nexus.
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Hmm what's so special about the Nexus S hardware design? The Nexus One was really unique. Yes HTC used the Nexus One base for nearly any other phone, but at the time of the release there was no phone looking like the Nexus One.
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Samsung is my new favorite phone manufacturer. HTC designs seem so played out these days. The Nexus S is still the sleekest phone on the market.
I wish I could see Johnny Cash holding a Nexus S. Black suit, shirt and phone.
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While i have not ever handled a nexus one personally. I have however spent quite a lot of time with the HTC desire, which is more or less identical to the nexus one.
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Hardware specs are nearly identical, but the Nexus One has better design, trackball and the very cool charging contacts as well as noise reduction with the second mic. The chassis is also different.
voyager_s said:
In terms of hardware, the nexus s is overall superior on paper and in practise. The 540 gpu in the nexus s is far more powerful than the adreno in the nexus one/desire.
The hummingbird in the nexus s again gives more performance than the first generation snapdragon in the nexus one. Both got good cameras in my opinion.
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I can confirm that the Nexus S performs much better with graphic intensive stuff like games. But on regular usage the Nexus One is not slower than the Nexus S. That surprised me as I was expecting the Nexus S to be generally more snappy.
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In terms of sound and music, i think the Samsung nexus s has the best audio output I've ever experienced as an mp3 player. With voodoo control the audio is amazing. No other word to use. Try it and see.
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Very possible, I only use quite cheap headphones so its hard to tell a difference.
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Build quality comes down to preference i think. Both use somewhat different materials. I like both.
When it comes to looks? No doubt in my mind...the nexus s is the most sexiest looking thing in the smartphone business. So God damn sexy its silly...lol
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Nexus S is feeling somewhat cheap. Especially the back, the front is quite cool. The Nexus One is heavier but also provides better haptics and feel IMHO.
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The display is again down to preference i suppose. But Super AMOLED is something real special. The colours are amazing again. With voodoo controls it gets even better with more customization. Just Wow. If i ever go to normal LCD displays again, how i will survive without super AMOLED i do not know. Its awesome.
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I love the black on AMOLED and thanks to AMOLED plus pentile matrix is history (which was the biggest setback of AMOLED). I hope the Galaxy Nexus will sport super AMOLED plus.
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Where the nexus one shines however is the inclusion of SD card input. That's the only real feature i wish the nexus s had. Also, although it has not been a problem for all the last 11 months I've had the handset, i do wish we had at least 1 gig of ram instead of the 512 mgb available
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I never had any RAM issues with 512 MB yet.
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Overall i think Samsung did a terrific job with the nexus s. Their hardware overall, and I'm not just speaking of Smartphones, are more often than not simply excellent. Quality through and through.
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I'm very happy with my Nexus S, but honestly I think HTC would create something with more uniqueness and character. Nexus S doesn't have innovative design, the Nexus One had.
Hmm... To design innovation...
Nexus One comes with a colored chassis, with physical buttons and colored trackball and deep, sunk LCD display.
Nexus S comes with fully black chassis with fully black LED display with unique curved display and white haptic feedback touchkeys.
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I have two NS4G's both running the same software, yet there is clearly a difference between the colors. Is this just how the display is produced?
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Maybe one has dimples and the other one doesn't?
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I don't get it.
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lithid-cm said:
Maybe one has dimples and the other one doesn't?
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venom_762 said:
I don't get it.
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lol, i got it.
venom_762, you wrote smiled instead of smoled
screens do differ because of slight production variances.
simms22 said:
lol, i got it.
venom_762, you wrote smiled instead of smoled
screens do differ because of slight production variances.
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LOL,I get it now damn auto correct. What are the odds that its the Zagg quard on the one that is causing the color difference?
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LOL,I get it now damn auto correct. What are the odds that its the Zagg quard on the one that is causing the color difference?
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possibly. i remember, a year back, people were comparing samoled screens and their slight differences. some even would pick out nexus s based on the color tone of the screen before they bought them.
OLED displays are prone to being biased toward certain colours. Material quality may have something to do with it but i don't know enough about the manufacturing to say. As the lifetimes of the different coloured subpixels are very different, they degrade at different rates and this can change the hue. Blue's die the quickest and often there is a larger blue subpixel to compensate for this.
From what i've seen from numerous people with SGS2s, they need manual colour correction and possibly a few times a year. Some are overly blue, some overly green/yellow. This changes with time too. I quite like it while looking at photos or videos, but the lack of a true white annoys me. This is why supercurio has been / is working on better colour control for OLED displays for android, these issues can certainly be compensated for.
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I have two NS4G's both running the same software, yet there is clearly a difference between the colors. Is this just how the display is produced?
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Are you sure both are running exactly the same software (ROM, kernel + voodoo settings if any)?
Obviously there is small differences between displays but it shouldn't be too terrible.
Positive, blues are the most noticeable. One seems to display blues as more of a grey.
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I just installed the matrix kernel with the voodoo colors hack and it makes a huge difference on the one and no difference on the other. Its crazy there's that much difference between them.
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Edit the settings with voodoo control, colours will look much better after some tweaking.
Yeah I played with it a little bit, is there a way to avoid the green screen flash afterwards?
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I'm gonna trade my galaxy note for a skyrocket plus cash of course... And had a few questions about the skyrocket....
-Is the screen resolution 720p like the note
-Does it have good GPS like the note (Russian satellite)
-Is the galaxy S2 skyrocket the same as the galaxy S2 skyrocket HD?
-WHATS THE PROS AND CONS OF THIS DEVICE
I did a trade plus 250$ cash is that a good deal?
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1) yes 720p
2) yes GPS is good
3) Google is ur friend
4) Not bad, but not great
Cool what about pros and. Cons
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again see point 3, all depends what ur looking for. My only con is battery life. I get 24 on with 4 screen time... but then again I'll never be satisfied until I get limitless battery, so for the amount of power and speed this device gives u, I'll take it
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Cool what about pros and. Cons
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Your google search is broken?
http://androidforums.com/samsung-galaxy-s2-skyrocket/440218-skyrocket-comparison-thread-2.html
http://www.zenilshroff.com/att-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-skyrocket-features-specs-pros-cons/
http://www.phonerated.com/c-samsung+galaxy+s+ii+skyrocket-pros-and-cons-review
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SGH-I727MSAATT
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1) yes 720p
2) yes GPS is good
3) Google is ur friend
4) Not bad, but not great
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Screen is not 720p......it is a 800x480 S-AMOLED Plus RBG Array Panel @ 60Hz with a 5:3 aspect ratio at about 300 nits of brightness.
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Screen is not 720p......it is a 800x480 S-AMOLED Plus RBG Array Panel @ 60Hz with a 5:3 aspect ratio at about 300 nits of brightness.
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yeah, I know MOD, but I wasn't about to Google all that for him when he can do it himself lol
i didn't get it after all.... his phone was all scratches up.... thanks gentleman
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yeah, I know MOD, but I wasn't about to Google all that for him when he can do it himself lol
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...I actually memorized those specs
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I know we can see glonas sats but I don't think we utilize them
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