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Ramos W7 Android tablet, 5in+Capacitive touch or Witstech A81E 7in Resistive touch?

http://www.merimobiles.com/Ramos_W7_Capacitive_touchscreen_Android_Market_p/meri0377.htm
Only runs Cupcake though. And I'm not familiar with the Rockchip RK2808 at all.
http://www.merimobiles.com/Witstech_A81E_Android_2_2_Flash_10_1_App_Market_p/meri0306.htm
This one has a resistive touch screen, but runs Froyo and is powered by a Cortex A8 CPU.

personally, i think the witstech a81e looks the best. resistive touch isnt bad at all if done right (touch pro 2 prooved it to me). the fact that it comes with 2.2 and the reviews support the fact that it works makes it a much more interesting product than the ramos tablet.
if i had $200 to throw, i would go with that one. and thanks for pointing these tablets out too. i haven't seen much on the news sources about this market yet. glad to know its getting bigger.
EDIT: oh, and obvious point of worth: Kick Stand built in. that is an auto-buy to me.

The Ramos is much more awesome seriously.

I bought an A81E, can't wait to get it. The resistive TS seems pretty good, for resistive.
Advantages over the W7:
kickstand
removable battery
matte screen
cortex a8, so waaay faster than the rk2808 (see http://mp4nation.net/blog/2010/08/4-way-mid-browser-speed-showdown/)
disadvantages:
larger, not pocketable
resistive
lower DPI (same res)
smaller internal storage

Okay but I find ramos awesome because:
The looks - it's like futuristic grid-computing tablet with 8exaflops FPU It looks better then anything Apple ever designed
It's great as MID - it's so thin! And fits in pocket!
And at last - it's AWESOME as entertaiment machine! It's CPU is still quite good at 3D! And movies? AWESOOOME!

bcpk said:
I bought an A81E, can't wait to get it. The resistive TS seems pretty good, for resistive.
Advantages over the W7:
kickstand
removable battery
matte screen
cortex a8, so waaay faster than the rk2808 (see http://mp4nation.net/blog/2010/08/4-way-mid-browser-speed-showdown/)
disadvantages:
larger, not pocketable
resistive
lower DPI (same res)
smaller internal storage
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Well, its a tablet, not really designed to be pocketable.
I'm tempted by the A81E myself, but I'm not sure there's any development going on for it, root access, custom firmwares, etc. Seems like it might be a good device for some community love, more so than something like the Augen GenTouch which could be completely discontinued before too long.

Bateluer said:
Well, its a tablet, not really designed to be pocketable.
I'm tempted by the A81E myself, but I'm not sure there's any development going on for it, root access, custom firmwares, etc. Seems like it might be a good device for some community love, more so than something like the Augen GenTouch which could be completely discontinued before too long.
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This might be of interest to you: http://www.slatedroid.com/nationite-midnite-android-tablet-discussion/
It's still fairly quiet right now, but once people start getting the MIDnite version from MP4nation I think it will get quite a bit more popular.
I'm planning to do a video review to get the word out there

bcpk said:
This might be of interest to you: http://www.slatedroid.com/nationite-midnite-android-tablet-discussion/
It's still fairly quiet right now, but once people start getting the MIDnite version from MP4nation I think it will get quite a bit more popular.
I'm planning to do a video review to get the word out there
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Slate Droid is timing out for me right now.

Yeah, they're having server issues :|

bcpk said:
I bought an A81E, can't wait to get it. The resistive TS seems pretty good, for resistive.
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me 2 time seems 2 stand still when your waiting on a package

kjhadfield said:
me 2 time seems 2 stand still when your waiting on a package
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When's it arrive? I get paid in a day or two, still on the fence. Has the A81E been rooted? Haven't really been following tablets much, first got interested when I heard there was a CM flavor coming for the Augen Gentouch, but the Witstech device looks like a much better gadget. On paper at least.
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I am also thinking about getting the A81E, I get paid on thursday, so thats when I will be ordering it. Is anybody working on this device on the rooting and custom Roms front?

Thats what I want to know. Doubt we'll see much serious development of Android tablets until the first tier vendors, Asus, MSI, Samsung, etc, launch their higher end devices.
If I were to order an A81E on 18 Aug, think it would arrive before 1 Sept?
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I've found that the A81E has a PowerVR SGX GPU that can do 10MPoly/s so it'll be like a little bit faster iPhone 3g in 3d gaming.

Bateluer said:
Thats what I want to know. Doubt we'll see much serious development of Android tablets until the first tier vendors, Asus, MSI, Samsung, etc, launch their higher end devices.
If I were to order an A81E on 18 Aug, think it would arrive before 1 Sept?
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mine is still in shipping. this is w/ merimobiles. ordered on a sun nite, email mon day about an issue w/ different billing an shipping addresses. order confirmation/started processing tues day. tracking recieved fri nite. tracking # still cant find as of mon nite. sent email waiting for reply.
so not that fast 4 me so far, 7 days from order date w/ no weekends included. kinda wish it be faster cuz my bday was last sat. this was my present 2 myself. even if i could find tracking of it, i be happy
maybe you want 2 check out jt shop? heard of fast shippment from them on slatedroid.com not sure where you at, euro, us, other? they say 3-5 days shipping but proccesing can take 2-4 days and even that isnt really reliable
slatedroid site does have 1 or 2 customs,roms, on there. dont know if thaat roots it? or if there is even to do it w/out the custom rom? still a baby when it comes 2 android. keep you informed on when i receive it

The A81E has a rooted custom ROM that includes market access. It's on slatedroid.

bcpk said:
The A81E has a rooted custom ROM that includes market access. It's on slatedroid.
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Am I just not seeing any changelog for the rom? Like to know what I'm flashing before I flash it.
http://www.slatedroid.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=68
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Bateluer said:
Am I just not seeing any changelog for the rom? Like to know what I'm flashing before I flash it.
http://www.slatedroid.com/downloads.php?do=file&id=68
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http://www.slatedroid.com/nationite-midnite-firmware-development/3963-a81-e-custom-rom-a.html

Thanks for the link. I think I will order one later today. Should be fun to play with. Not sure if I care about having GPS or not.
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Check out JT Shop, its $200 with GPS and includes a free extra battery (usually $10 plus postage), looked the best deal to me!

Thinking about trading my A500 for a Xoom...

I walked into Best Buy last week with every intention of buying a Xoom Tablet, but while I was sitting there, I started playing with the Acer Iconia TAB A500 and ended up getting it because it was cheaper. I've been playing with it for the last week and have been somewhat disappointed in some of it's downfalls. The GPS is probably the worst I've ever seen, for some reason doesn't like to play half of my music, Acer support is, for the most part, non-existent, and I've yet to be able to find a very protective case for it, and as a Paramedic student, this thing is traveling all over with me.
So my question is as follows: Are there any ground breaking differences between the Xoom and the A500?
I've read just about every comparison article written, but I'd figure that I'd come here and ask the people that use the Xoom the most.
Edit: I'm talking about the wifi only versions.

Your comparing the two worst 3.1 tablets on the market. Go with Samsung 10.1 or better yet, Asus transformer.
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muzz3256 said:
I walked into Best Buy last week with every intention of buying a Xoom Tablet, but while I was sitting there, I started playing with the Acer Iconia TAB A500 and ended up getting it because it was cheaper. I've been playing with it for the last week and have been somewhat disappointed in some of it's downfalls. The GPS is probably the worst I've ever seen, for some reason doesn't like to play half of my music, Acer support is, for the most part, non-existent, and I've yet to be able to find a very protective case for it, and as a Paramedic student, this thing is traveling all over with me.
So my question is as follows: Are there any ground breaking differences between the Xoom and the A500?
I've read just about every comparison article written, but I'd figure that I'd come here and ask the people that use the Xoom the most.
Edit: I'm talking about the wifi only versions.
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The US Xoom is a Google Experience Device which means you're always going to get OS updates first. The Xoom is also the ONLY tablet that supports 802.11 a/b/g/n that means you can operate on 2.4ghz wifi or 5ghz wifi. The Xoom is built stronger in my opinion.
The samsung is very pretty but after reading about how users are able to just flex them in their hands with little to no effort and reading reports of the glass popping out of the tablet... yeah no thanks. To say that comparing the Acer and the Xoom is comparing the worst two units on the market is short sighted and ignorant at worst.
I'd definately want the Xoom over any other tablet released to date.

So how's the playback & GPS on the Xoom? I'm been having difficulty with a lot of my 1080p videos on the A500, and the gps can't get a lock to save it's own life. I've updated the A500 to 3.1 and while the 1080p video playback has improved (it's not as choppy), the GPS is a worse as ever!

The GPS works like a charm. I've used it as a giant Garmin a few times. As for the video. I haven't tried anything in HD, but flash video can be a little jumpy. Most videos below 1080p are butter, but like I said, you can get the occasional jumpiness in flash videos.

boglwe said:
Your comparing the two worst 3.1 tablets on the market. Go with Samsung 10.1 or better yet, Asus transformer.
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Your kidding right? The xoom is far better then the galaxy tab, its plastic low Res crappiness. If you don't like the xoom gtfo of our forum. You dumbasses who are just here to talk **** are getting annoying. I'm assuming you own all four tablets and have thouroughly tested their pros and cons right?
The xoom is a very solid, well spec'd well supported piece of hardware.
Oh by the way how are you liking 3.2 on your gtab? Its beautiful on my xoom. Wait Samsung hasn't pushed that update yet? Sorry
Timely updates are important too. Xoom wins again
Kiss mine dude.
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Well, I think that the GPS working just put the nail in the Acer's coffin. I think that a trip back to Best Buy is in my future tomorrow......

muzz3256 said:
Well, I think that the GPS working just put the nail in the Acer's coffin. I think that a trip back to Best Buy is in my future tomorrow......
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Yea. GPS status n tools works well enough to accurately read car speed on my xoom, accurately lol.
The xoom is also pure google, which means its like the nexus line of phones.... you get the latest updates faster, the now 2 year old nexus is still more up to date then most phones you can buy today. So, ice cream sandwich and beyond is all but promised for the xoom. People have different opinions, but I'm enjoying 3.2 right now, before any other tablet. Like the galaxy tab 10.1 for example.
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cwizardtx said:
The US Xoom is a Google Experience Device which means you're always going to get OS updates first
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Its just a PITFA if you're not in the US.

Your kidding right? The xoom is far better then the galaxy tab, its plastic low Res crappiness. If you don't like the xoom gtfo of our forum.
Kiss mine dude.
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There is no reason to answer like that. I have a galaxy tab and probably I will return it today for a xoom or a refund because of the newton rings problem on the display. But I can guarantee that the galaxy tab display is far superior to any other display actually on the market. Why you say low res? It has the same resolution of the xoom 1280x800. It uses an EPS display and it's much better on brightness and contrast than the xoom one. You shouldn't over react like that providing wrong information just because you like your xoom so much.
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i believe he reacted like that because there are a lot of guys coming into this forum to talk crap..... when all is said and done, all these tabs have pretty much the same specs. The 10.1 has no ports or SD but a nicer screen. The iconia is bigger and heavier, but cheaper and has a full sized USB. And the transformer has a nice screen but no USB without the dock. Its all about what's important to the person buying the device. I returned my iconia for the xoom and haven't looked back, and yes I tried the transformer for a few days too. It was nice but having to attach the dock to hook up USB devices was a pain in my opinion. I bought a tab so I didn't need a keyboard and mouse.

cheetah2k said:
Its just a PITFA if you're not in the US.
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Honestly if I lived outside the US and had wifi only I'd just flash the US images and be done with it.

I was actually suggesting the transformer over the gt any day..I was not trying to say don't get it but I just found it odd the compare was zoom vs Acer when two knew tabs are on the market. I own the ts and am seriously considering the zoom..the snapdragon is the killer for me for.
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Well I went and returned the Iconia today and picked up a Xoom. It feels like its better built and more solid, and the GPS receiver is rock solid, which was a deal breaker for me. The folks at best buy were shocked that I was returning it for the Xoom, as they all thought that the Acer was the better tab. I feel much happier with the Xoom, its doing everything that I need it to and more!
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muzz3256 said:
Well I went and returned the Iconia today and picked up a Xoom. It feels like its better built and more solid, and the GPS receiver is rock solid, which was a deal breaker for me. The folks at best buy were shocked that I was returning it for the Xoom, as they all thought that the Acer was the better tab. I feel much happier with the Xoom, its doing everything that I need it to and more!
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GPS is one of the biggest reasons I chose the Xoom. The wifi version has a TRUE GPS chip onboard.
It's not assisted (rofl) gps, nor cellular triangulation, but a real gps chip and you don't have to buy the 3G version (cough icrap cough) to get it either.

Daemon1978 said:
There is no reason to answer like that. I have a galaxy tab and probably I will return it today for a xoom or a refund because of the newton rings problem on the display. But I can guarantee that the galaxy tab display is far superior to any other display actually on the market. Why you say low res? It has the same resolution of the xoom 1280x800. It uses an EPS display and it's much better on brightness and contrast than the xoom one. You shouldn't over react like that providing wrong information just because you like your xoom so much.
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Its not that. Its like this, I'm a loyal HTC customer, and not a big fan of samsungs phones. But do I go post in the captivate forum talking crap about a product I don't own, when someone needs help with a valid question? No. That's rude and counterproductive
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I chose the xoom because I like the nice solid feel, I hate UI overlays and know how google beautifully supports devices they use to launch a new version of android. Also, I purchased mine before there was any competition, Ive played with a few other tabs, the galaxy felt flimsy, the transformer was about equal to my xoom IMO, and the Acer felt.... awkward I guess
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boglwe said:
Your comparing the two worst 3.1 tablets on the market. Go with Samsung 10.1 or better yet, Asus transformer.
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Asus Transformer? Are you kidding?
I am on my second TF. There are some major manufacturing issues with this device. The screen bleeds light from around the edges, the battery drain on their dock, speaker issues, Flash 10.3 at 6 frames/sec, etc. IMHO, the TF is not a good device at all. The 32GB TF was $499, the dock was $149. I had to return the device once and the new one, well, it is OK but no better. I think the Asus TF is sexy but overpriced. I got my Xoom for $499 and it just has a better feel and operates better. Once I get my 3.2 OTA update to have a MicroSD, the Xoom will probably be my favorite.

I did and I'm happy I did it.

I just got 3.2 last night. There's not really much use for the SD card. Or, I haven't figured it out, and ive spent alot of time trying, and the only way I can even see files on it was a file manager, but its already partitioned for my evo. So I think I may need to find a new one and try it.
3.2 is even faster and less battery draining, less force closes across all aps, and the portrait home/app screen is now lag free for me. The keyboard feels improved and auto correct and predict seem more intelligent. Zooming apps is nice. Browser is snappier along with most all data using apps. Maybe some updating on that end?
I'm very happy with my xoom after 3.2
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Nexus 7(16gb) vs TF300. Gawd, I'm torn!

So now Google is releasing this Nexus 7. However I still can't decide between this and a TF300. Sure the 7 is a Nexus device, so I'll be getting a perfectly stock experience with good updates, but compared to the TF300 it still seems lacking: no SD slot, way less memory, smaller screen...ok, I know the TF300 isn't as cheap, but compared to the 7 in its 16 gb version it's not much more expensive: I could get it for 330€ right now, and maybe it will drop a little more before the 7 starts shipping. Also, ASUS hasn't got a bad update policy anyway, so it's really a close call. Any suggestions? I really can't decide.
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For the price of one TF300 you could buy 2 Nexii tablets... they are also targeting two different groups of people. Think do you need a 7' or a 10' tablet and then your decision has been made

First decision you got to make at to you want a 7' or 10.1' tablet
Secondly. do you want the microSD
Finally. do you need the dock for the TF300
HOPED THAT HELPED

Well, honestly I'm not bothered too much by the smaller screen, but I assume that the TF300 will have a bigger battery. Anyway I'm still not sure, because at the end of day it's just a tablet, I don't know if it's worth the extra buck, basically because I'm not really sure about how much I will actually use it.
At the end of the day I just want a new toy, but maybe the TF300 could be more useful in general, and maybe even replace my laptop on some occasions...the dock is cool, but the package becomes expensive that way
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I say wait a bit a they should release a Nexus tablet with Jelly Bean and an SD slot and more memory.

Nexus 7. Don't have to spend an arm and a leg to get one. And its a Nexus device!

Nexus 7. Updates directly from Google

ice2seeyou said:
Nexus 7. Don't have to spend an arm and a leg to get one. And its a Nexus device!
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Yeah, the fact of it being a Nexus device appeals me the most, basically because I've never owned one. I'd be getting the 16GB version tho, so assuming it will cost 249€ the price isn't that different from the one of the better specced TF300...if it drops to 299€ or so then it would be definitely a better bang for the buck...
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meek2100 said:
I say wait a bit a they should release a Nexus tablet with Jelly Bean and an SD slot and more memory.
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A nexus device has never had a SD slot... I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you...
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Also note that chances are the TF300 had a wireless problem due to its metal case.. although only a handful of people experience this..
If you don't fancy screen size and storage space I'd suggest the N7..
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Gorjess said:
Also note that chances are the TF300 had a wireless problem due to its metal case.. although only a handful of people experience this..
If you don't fancy screen size and storage space I'd suggest the N7..
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As far as I know that was the Prime, the Pad (aka TF300) has a plastic back instead, so it should be fine...
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DrunkFuX666 said:
A nexus device has never had a SD slot... I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you...
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Oh really... I'd advise you to look up the specs of the Nexus One.
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slapshot30 said:
Oh really... I'd advise you to look up the specs of the Nexus One.
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Exactly. But since then, (to my knowledge) there hasn't been a nexus device with expandable memory.
I think I read an article no too long ago that companies might start moving away from sd slots.... But I think that seems pretty far-fetched and ridiculus. Anyone know anything about that?

vnvman said:
As far as I know that was the Prime, the Pad (aka TF300) has a plastic back instead, so it should be fine...
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It should be, and both have pretty much the same specs.. but still you have to test everything before buying..
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I think at the end of the day its all about the price... paying twice as much for a transformer with some more features probably won't go down with people too well... but yes if maybe a $50 difference then sure transformer it is...
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I'm in the same situation, the N7 is great but it's missing some features that i really want. Think i might also wait for the new Kindle specs.

I actually just managed to pick up an open-box TF300T for $300 on JR.com this past Saturday. They also have an open-box dock for $100 when it's in stock.
If you can find a deal like this, I'd definitely jump on the TF300T instead. :good:

behemothZ3R0 said:
I actually just managed to pick up an open-box TF300T for $300 on JR.com this past Saturday. They also have an open-box dock for $100 when it's in stock.
If you can find a deal like this, I'd definitely jump on the TF300T instead. :good:
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Yea I agree with you there... $50 more for all the added specs is probably a better idea... but apparently the reviews arnt too great regarding the keyboard...
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Now I'm almost sure I'm getting the TF300, mainly because I would really miss the HDMI port (I also heard somewhere that the 7 doesn't even support MHL, WTF??), and also because the N7 won't ship to Italy until september, and I definitely wanna have my tablet with me when I'll be on vacation

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The Nexus One had an SD card...It was also the first Nexus device...

Jelly bean anywhere in sight ?

I feel like I've been cheated, I mean on paper this tablet is amazing, but the hardware doesn't seem to like the software very much, so the screen slows down the device but the CPU doesn't speed it up.... despite it being the fastest around, so I'm wondering if jelly bean is coming, I know Asus is busy with the nexus 7 and the windows tablets, but after all the infinity is their android flagship, they can't just give up..........
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ray3andrei said:
I feel like I've been cheated, I mean on paper this tablet is amazing, but the hardware doesn't seem to like the software very much, so the screen slows down the device but the CPU doesn't speed it up.... despite it being the fastest around, so I'm wondering if jelly bean is coming, I know Asus is busy with the nexus 7 and the windows tablets, but after all the infinity is their android flagship, they can't just give up..........
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Stop whining, first it is not as bad as you appear it to be.
Second, Asus has already confirmed to release JellyBean.

DarsVaeda said:
Stop whining, first it is not as bad as you appear it to be.
Second, Asus has already confirmed to release JellyBean.
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True, with Motorola rolling JB out to the Xoom (WiFi only models), hopefully Asus won't be far behind!

ray3andrei said:
I know Asus is busy with the nexus 7 and the windows tablets, but after all the infinity is their android flagship, they can't just give up..........
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What in the world makes you think that Asus has "given up" on the TF700?!?! The product just came out and has been selling like hotcakes! Personally, I love it - haven't had any major issues to note....
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It seems ppl get me completely wrong. I like the tablet, but its not worth that amount of money... like seriously it has some serious I/o issues and I love Asus hell my laptop is from Asus and I didn't have a problem so far, its just that 720 is not worth it considering that my nexus is waaay smoother and that one is about 320...
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ray3andrei said:
It seems ppl get me completely wrong. I like the tablet, but its not worth that amount of money... like seriously it has some serious I/o issues and I love Asus hell my laptop is from Asus and I didn't have a problem so far, its just that 720 is not worth it considering that my nexus is waaay smoother and that one is about 320...
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Then return it. Simple.
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You paid 720 Dollars for it?

If you paid 720.....someone should return your common sense.

KangLx said:
It's even worse, it's a piece of crap.
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That's not very objective.

I guess he means 720 with dock. 719€ is the german recommended retail price.

Give Asus a couple weeks and the bugs should be fixed. They already came onto the forums saying that they were fixing the microSD issues, and the I/O issue shouldn't be too far behind. If you don't like it, return it, no one is forcing you to like this device.
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californiarailroader said:
You paid 720 Dollars for it?
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In Norway its about 1000$ with the dock and 830$ without it

Same here, 64GB w/dock was the only option available and it was €720.

I bought the 64gb model from Amazon for $699 and the dock for $164 from Amazon marketplace seller and received a 201 dock instead with a sticker on it saying for 700 and 201 models. I could have bought a 201 dock for less. I feel a bit deceived.
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ray3andrei said:
I feel like I've been cheated, I mean on paper this tablet is amazing, but the hardware doesn't seem to like the software very much, so the screen slows down the device but the CPU doesn't speed it up.... despite it being the fastest around, so I'm wondering if jelly bean is coming, I know Asus is busy with the nexus 7 and the windows tablets, but after all the infinity is their android flagship, they can't just give up..........
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ray3andrei said:
It seems ppl get me completely wrong. I like the tablet, but its not worth that amount of money... like seriously it has some serious I/o issues and I love Asus hell my laptop is from Asus and I didn't have a problem so far, its just that 720 is not worth it considering that my nexus is waaay smoother and that one is about 320...
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Ray3andrei,
If you read your first post yourself, and try and do so with a unopinionated eye, wouldn't you come to the same conclusion -- it's not exactly clear you like the tablet, you feel cheated, it's not worth the money, you have a phone that is smoother (so do I, but that's comparing pumpkins to cherries in terms of hardware requirements).
No one can decide for you whether you should keep it, or to return it (or sell it off), but judging from your posts, I'd strongly suggest you to buy a less capable but smoother tablet instead of the TF700. You'll be far happier with it, have money to spare and get a beer for (or something else if you so desire).
As far as I am concerned, the recent reports of drastic improvements of I/O and UI feel with JB have urged me to wait and see if things are fixed. I welcome any user who finds new issues to please report in, but for now, the whine posts (the dataless rants that never bring anything to these forums in terms of solutions or fixes anyway) must stop. There is a time to lay down some pressure, and there is a time to let it slide a bit.
In my opinion, it's time to let it slide a bit. Just my $0.02 -- please feel free to disagree. (I realize I am just as opinionated on the subject, but antagonistic. No need to point that out.)

Guys, you have to see this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1800593&page=2
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PoiPoiKuroi said:
In Norway its about 1000$ with the dock and 830$ without it
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OUCH, geez, why so much?

californiarailroader said:
OUCH, geez, why so much?
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It's Norway. Even to take a dump you will to pay tax for it

Ali I Hagen said:
It's Norway. Even to take a dump you will to pay tax for it
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Well, they have better healthcare and a longer lifespan, I guess it's a trade off. Me, I like cheaper products, sure, but I'd take the higher taxes for not having to worry about things when I get sick or old

californiarailroader said:
well, they have better healthcare and a longer lifespan, i guess it's a trade off. Me, i like cheaper products, sure, but i'd take the higher taxes for not having to worry about things when i get sick or old
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Oh, no! A democrat!!! j.k.

Xoom or Nexus 7

Hello everyone, I have a question for you ... I have the opportunity to buy a Motorola Xoom or Nexus 7 (the price is the same) What do you recommend? Thanks
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Xoom for a 10 inch tablet and Nexus for a 7 inch. Those two sizes are impossible to compare. It's based on your needs/wants
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just buy both. I have both, and both have their advantages.

sakubamba said:
Hello everyone, I have a question for you ... I have the opportunity to buy a Motorola Xoom or Nexus 7 (the price is the same) What do you recommend? Thanks
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I have both, but I recommend the Nexus 7 cos it's much lighter and nicer to hold. The Xoom Wifi is a good device though.

Thanks for your advice, friends! I'm undecided because I really like the Nexus but some things less (creader card, expansion slot memory) also at this time the xoom is on offer to 245 euros...
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d3athsd00r said:
Xoom for a 10 inch tablet and Nexus for a 7 inch. Those two sizes are impossible to compare. It's based on your needs/wants
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This is the only response that makes sense. Its clear youre on a budget so both isn't an option in which case you need to do a similarities/ differences list and decide what's important to you. The size is a big difference; its comparing apples to oranges.
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i have a xoom, and unless the xoom is a brand new device, id go nexus 7.

Cubanluke88 said:
its comparing apples to oranges.
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That is blasphemy!!!!! My eye is burning out my head!!! He said Apple!!!! Kill him!!!!!
Any way, on a liter note. I have the Xoom and the wife has the Nexus. As nice as the nexus is. There is no way that I would trade the Xoom for the Nexus. It is just so, I dont know, solid?
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Thanks for the replies!
@jaytronics: I am struggling to translate your message. If I understand correctly you prefer xoom, right? Why?
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I also had both and, don't get me wrong, I love my Xoom...
But, hands down, Nexus 7.
Reasons include, but are not limited too:
1 - Same charger for Nexus as most Android and even Windows phones (big plus/Xoom uses different charger...not bad, just an additional charger to carry.)
2 - NFC. There may be ways around this, but when you have it and actually use it, that makes it hard to without...
3 - weight. Xoom is heavy even by tablet standards. Again, not bad, but when you have to carry it everyday everywhere (with charger) it can become cumbersome. disadvantageous when portability is paramount.
4 - Quad core. How many Xoom owners run into the slowing and sometimes compete stops of the OS. Light use is usually not to bad, however...but pile on the multitasking and the Xoom will take a much needed break. Have yet to recreate this phenomenon on my 16gb nexus 7
But, I'm told the Nexus doesn't support MHL...the alternative to HDMI. If that is important to you, go Xoom. That was one feature I missed sorely with my Nexus.
For storage, OTG cables can solve the expansion problem.
The Xoom has a rear camera, but I personally never found a use for it...
Both are phenomenal tablets and I have used them both extensively...but choice would be the Nexus...the Xoom will only get cheaper, trust me...I paid full price for mine over a year ago....
Hoped this helps...

sakubamba said:
Thanks for the replies!
@jaytronics: I am struggling to translate your message. If I understand correctly you prefer xoom, right? Why?
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Correct. Why do I like the Xoom over the N7? Quite simple really, I just do.
In all seriousness, the Xoom has a metal housing which gives it that hey! I have a build quality that most if not all others dont have. And now that I have just returned the wifes N7. It being the Xoom does not suffer from the screen lift problem at all. I just read a bunch of posts where the screen crumpled under peoples thumbs where it was lifting. And Asus being the nice company that they are, refuses to replace them even though the dammage in the pictures clearly sides with factory deffect being a contributing factor in the dammage to the screen. My wifes N7 had screen lift. I brought it back before I read those posts about that problem. Im happy that I did. Also like the N7 the Xoom has great development going for it. Granted, it only has a 1Ghz dual core processor. It still does an excelent job. And having a 10" screen as a GPS is much better than a smaller screen.
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You are very convincing and I have remarried very well!
The problem is big because now I'm more undecided than before.
Opt for xoom for the sd slot and the big display
I like the Nexus because it is new, mount jelly beans and has an excellent processor ....
I have ti decide because the offer for the xoom to 289 EURO expires Saturday ...
I forgot .. in Italy the Nexus 7 costs 249.00 EUR
Without promoting the xoom is sold at 480.00 EURO

sakubamba said:
You are very convincing and I have remarried very well!
The problem is big because now I'm more undecided than before.
Opt for xoom for the sd slot and the big display
I like the Nexus because it is new, mount jelly beans and has an excellent processor ....
I have ti decide because the offer for the xoom to 289 EURO expires Saturday ...
I forgot .. in Italy the Nexus 7 costs 249.00 EUR
Without promoting the xoom is sold at 480.00 EURO
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Price aside what are you intended uses of either tablet?

preferiti said:
Price aside what are you intended uses of either tablet?
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I would use the tablet mainly for internet, write notes and then connect via vpn to my office pc

as mentioned previously, it's simply a matter of taste & expectations. the smaller 7" N7 is lighter, and more portable by design, but the 10" Xoom is such a solid device that has maintained it's own since launch. Given the JB update for wifi versions, and pending JB update for 3G/LTE versions, I would say go with a Xoom. Not to mention that you can pick up a Xoom for around $200 now.
My wife has an Ipad2, and I bought her a refurb Xoom for $199 and she loves it more than the Ipad2! Something about flash and stability, and the fact that she now has a "back" button sold her.
Worst case scenario, buy either one. Try/test it out. If you don't like it, return it and buy the other. Figure out what works best for you personally. That is the best course of action, imho.

Cubanluke88 said:
its comparing apples to oranges.
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When it comes to apples and oranges... Oranges always win.
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Everyone should post more about how apple products lose/are ****.
Its not like, overdone or fanboyish or anything.