I've seen people talk about this and the general consensus is that it is not possible, but Iwas wondering what would be involved in possibly getting it to work. I know a lot of people (including myself) are not checking cheesecake as much as they should be to find leaks, but it would be much faster and easier if we could do it automatically from a computer. Does anyone have any idea on how to get this to work?
I'm not aware of the full process of how the phone gets information about an update, although it sounds possible although pretty hard.
But you're right; it would be really nice if we could get something like that to work. I think the first step would be to make an Android application that automatically goes through all the servers, checks for an update, and downloads it to the sdcard using its own methods. If that can be accomplished then it would be relatively easy to make a java application that does the same thing... another plus to this would be that we could check multiple times on the same server, acting like a different firmware each time.
Someone please correct me if I'm talking nonsense
It is not possible, unless you can figure out how to tell the servers that you are an atrix2 and send the proper code, and the imei and serial of your phone to the servers in question.
That is how they tell what upgrade you get, remember cheesecake works on ANY Moto phone, and the way the servers can tell which upgrade files to send you, is based on the information above, there is a little java script on the server applet, that checks that, and cheesecake, was a conduit to allow that to access that data on the phone, while making the proper connection to the serve-let that was requested.
This has been attempted many times without success.
You can use and android scheduler, an automaton app in android to do all the work for you, and then send you an e-mail if it finds something. I use the automaton app called tasker from the market.
Tasker:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.dinglisch.android.taskerm&hl=en
jimbridgman said:
It is not possible, unless you can figure out how to tell the servers that you are an atrix2 and send the proper code, and the imei and serial of your phone to the servers in question.
That is how they tell what upgrade you get, remember cheesecake works on ANY Moto phone, and the way the servers can tell which upgrade files to send you, is based on the information above, there is a little java script on the server applet, that checks that, and cheesecake, was a conduit to allow that to access that data on the phone, while making the proper connection to the serve-let that was requested.
This has been attempted many times without success.
You can use and android scheduler, an automaton app in android to do all the work for you, and then send you an e-mail if it finds something. I use the automaton app called tasker from the market.
Tasker:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.dinglisch.android.taskerm&hl=en
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Thanks for the info jim . Sad to hear it. Are you sure that the only data sent to the servers is the IMEI and serial of the phone? When I updated some of the international firmwares, I just flashed the firmware and choose to download the update like I would normally :\.
But you're saying that it's theoretically possible to do it if you can send the correct data to the servers? Do you think it would be hard for a user to type in all the data unique to his/her A2?
jimbridgman said:
It is not possible, unless you can figure out how to tell the servers that you are an atrix2 and send the proper code, and the imei and serial of your phone to the servers in question.
That is how they tell what upgrade you get, remember cheesecake works on ANY Moto phone, and the way the servers can tell which upgrade files to send you, is based on the information above, there is a little java script on the server applet, that checks that, and cheesecake, was a conduit to allow that to access that data on the phone, while making the proper connection to the serve-let that was requested.
This has been attempted many times without success.
You can use and android scheduler, an automaton app in android to do all the work for you, and then send you an e-mail if it finds something. I use the automaton app called tasker from the market.
Tasker:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.dinglisch.android.taskerm&hl=en
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I love tasker. great idea there. never would have thought of that one.
Sent from my MB865 using XDA
cogeary said:
Thanks for the info jim . Sad to hear it. Are you sure that the only data sent to the servers is the IMEI and serial of the phone? When I updated some of the international firmwares, I just flashed the firmware and choose to download the update like I would normally :\.
But you're saying that it's theoretically possible to do it if you can send the correct data to the servers? Do you think it would be hard for a user to type in all the data unique to his/her A2?
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You would have to have an app that can accept data from adb, and have your phone connected.... otherwise it would not be something I would recommend for the everyday user.
Again with the international firmware, you still sent your imei and serial to verify to the server applet that you were on an atrix2. It does not care what region your phone is technically from, just a certain part of the serial and imei.
I thought this thread was about cake seriously
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-T989 using XDA
jimbridgman said:
You would have to have an app that can accept data from adb, and have your phone connected.... otherwise it would not be something I would recommend for the everyday user.
Again with the international firmware, you still sent your imei and serial to verify to the server applet that you were on an atrix2. It does not care what region your phone is technically from, just a certain part of the serial and imei.
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Yes I agree that it really isn't for the everyday user... and it might be too much of a hassle to make an app like that anyway. What exactly is in a phone's "serial?" Does it change depending on the ROM a phone is on?
Lol sorry for being slow . Hopefully we won't be relying as heavily on cheesecake soon
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Hi,
I have recently developed a privacy protection application for Android.
You can use it to block access for any installed application to the following data separately:
Device ID (IMEI/MEID/ESN)
Subscriber ID (IMSI)
SIM serial (ICCID)
Phone and mailbox number
Incoming call number
Outgoing call number
GPS location
Network location
List of accounts (including your google e-mail address)
Account auth tokens
Contacts
Call logs
Calendar
SMS
MMS
Browser bookmarks and history
System logs
SIM info (operator, country)
Network info (operator, country)
For device ID, phone and mailbox number, SIM serial, subscriber ID and device location it also allows supplying custom or random values.
Unlike others (e.g., Permissions Denied or CM) this does not make applications crash when access to private data is blocked.
The following short video shows some of its functionality.
PDroid does not require ROOT or any Android permission to function, nor does it need any services running in the background. But it does require patching some ROM components, so that it needs to be ported to different devices. Currently it is available for Nexus One, Nexus S, Desire HD (Gingerbread) as well as Magic with CM 6.1 (Froyo).
So I am wondering if I should release it for public use and maybe port to other devices. I will only do so if you would like to use it, since it requires some fine-tuning to be more user-friendly. So please vote if you would like to use PDroid.
I would love to use this app on my galaxy s and tab.
Especially the point to give the apps random or custom information instead of just blocking the access is important.
If you need help testing the app on those mentioned devices just let me know
I hope you get enough positive feedback to port and continue developing this app.
I ll love to have such an app on my Xperia X10 mini pro (cyanogenmod 7)
so basicly it's a LBE replacement? The major disadvantage of that one is being closed-source. Do you plan to open-source yours?
I would like to give this app a shot too with my devices (Nexus S 4G, EVO 3D and Epic Touch 4G). Does not require root, but assume that root is ok? Also seen that you have for Nexus S, but was not sure if that implies to the NS4G as well. Looks promising.
XlAfbk said:
so basicly it's a LBE replacement?
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Kind of. The functionality is similar to that of LBE while I tried to account for its disadvantages, such as not being able to disallow access to some data (e.g., system logs, incoming and outgoing call numbers etc.), requiring root or being unreliable since LBE requires its protection service to be running so that malicious apps still can steal data if they are started before LBE after boot.
XlAfbk said:
The major disadvantage of that one is being closed-source. Do you plan to open-source yours?
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Most likely yes (depends on how much spare time I can allocale to this project).
Tahde said:
Does not require root, but assume that root is ok?
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Yes, it won't interfere
Tahde said:
Also seen that you have for Nexus S, but was not sure if that implies to the NS4G as well.
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Yes, basically any device, for which Android can be directly built from AOSP (and this includes Nexus 4G) is supported right now.
Love to see it for the T-Mobile G2x especially if it is open.
svyat said:
You can use it to block access for any installed application to the following data separately...
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That's a nice list. I'd really like a version for my Motorola Defy.
How hard would it be to reuse the code to make it run like LBE, i.e. make an apk that works on every phone without having to patch ROMs for every type of device?
I too would like to use this app, sounds awesome. If you need any beta testers, I volunteer
rogier666 said:
How hard would it be to reuse the code to make it run like LBE, i.e. make an apk that works on every phone without having to patch ROMs for every type of device?
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Impossible, since the actual application logic performing the data access control is based on the Android application framework and not the SDK. Plus, doing it the LBE way requires root and will never be 100% reliable. In other words, there is no way of creating a proper solution without patching the ROM.
I would like to have this for t-mobile US Vibrant since we're getting no Gingerbread love from t-mo or Sammy and I'm all flashed out with nothing else to do.
I would like to give your app a spin to see how it works
KB0SDQ said:
I would like to give your app a spin to see how it works
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I am also interested in this app... Sounds very promising and I hope this will get ported for the G2/DesireZ, so I can get some freakin' privacy!
If I can help in any way, any way at all, I'd be very happy to do so.. I'm running CM7.1.0 on my DesireZ @ 1.2ghz...
Thanks a lot!
Looks great. I'd love to get that on my Thunderbolt (CM7) would there be anyway to block permissions like internet and SD card access, I know Cyanogenmod lets you disable them but you have to reset your phone after a change for them to take effect. Also I don't know if it falls into the scope of what this project is intended for but I've seen people ask about making certain apps work on 3G that only work on wifi or the other way around if you could make an app think it was using one or the other for a connection I think that would be very helpful to some folks.
I'd test this on the t-mo Galaxy S2 if you're willing to do it...
Sent from my SGH-T989 using xda premium
I guess this is TISSA (http://www.csc.ncsu.edu/faculty/jiang/pubs/TRUST11.pdf) ?
I would like to see for Desire , Great to have this kind of app! I'll help which ever way
IvanNCase said:
would there be anyway to block permissions like internet and SD card access
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Not in near future. Doing that would require modifying the kernel and that, in turn, would make PDroid much less portable.
IvanNCase said:
Also I don't know if it falls into the scope of what this project is intended for but I've seen people ask about making certain apps work on 3G that only work on wifi or the other way around [...]
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Nope, it doesn't
ukanth said:
I guess this is TISSA (http://www.csc.ncsu.edu/faculty/jiang/pubs/TRUST11.pdf) ?
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Nope, I've developed PDroid completely from scratch as a part of my Master's Thesis.
svyat said:
Not in near future. Doing that would require modifying the kernel and that, in turn, would make PDroid much less portable.
Nope, it doesn't
.
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Fair enough.
By the way how do you install this does the ROM patching need to be done by the original creator or done with a zip file through recovery?
svyat said:
Nope, I've developed PDroid completely from scratch as a part of my Master's Thesis.
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That's great to hear. Good job done ! I can't wait to see you release. I'll surely try to port it for Desire
Hello,
I have a TC55 from Motorola Solutions (i.e. the enterprise division that does not belong to Google). It is a rugged phone with a big battery (4400 mAh), but certainly not the sleekest design. Not sure if there is much interest in this kind of device, and I am certainly no developer - but in case anyone is investigating the TC55, here are two things I found so far:
It does not come with any Google apps: no Maps, no Gmail, no Play store and so on.
It is easily rooted with Framaroot using the Gandalf exploit.
(I cannot post this info into the Framaroot thread due to my low post count).
Anyway, maybe this helps someone. I will be happy to try to answer any questions about the TC55, but keep in mind I am no pro and I am not keen in messing around in its internals much more than I have done already.
Elanguescence said:
Hello,
I have a TC55 from Motorola Solutions (i.e. the enterprise division that does not belong to Google). It is a rugged phone with a big battery (4400 mAh), but certainly not the sleekest design. Not sure if there is much interest in this kind of device, and I am certainly no developer - but in case anyone is investigating the TC55, here are two things I found so far:
It does not come with any Google apps: no Maps, no Gmail, no Play store and so on.
It is easily rooted with Framaroot using the Gandalf exploit.
(I cannot post this info into the Framaroot thread due to my low post count).
Anyway, maybe this helps someone. I will be happy to try to answer any questions about the TC55, but keep in mind I am no pro and I am not keen in messing around in its internals much more than I have done already.
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I heard my company is planning to go with these soon for entry level supervisors such as myself. I'm trying to figure out exactly what it is. All the specs and brochures from Motorola keep calling it a mobile computer in a smartphone "form factor" but never actually call it a phone. I didn't see anything in any of the specs to lead me to believe for sure that it was a phone or if it was just an Android computer in a smartphone form factor.
Anyway, I just wanted to confirm, that, you're certain this is a phone, correct?
Thanks.
- Byron
bfollowell said:
Anyway, I just wanted to confirm, that, you're certain this is a phone, correct?
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Yes, definitely. You can call and get called, and you can send and receive SMS. It also supports wired headsets, and it is supposed to work with Bluetooth headsets, though I do not have any to test.
Elanguescence said:
Yes, definitely. You can call and get called, and you can send and receive SMS. It also supports wired headsets, and it is supposed to work with Bluetooth headsets, though I do not have any to test.
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Thanks for the info but it looks like mine is going to be crippled.
Sort of a let-down really. Yes, it "can" be a phone. Or without a sim card it can be a really powerful Android based mobile computer. That's what it is going to be for most of us. Only a few supervisors with area management approval are going to get units with the phone features working. Still cool. Just not as cool as I'd thought it was going to be.
- Byron
bfollowell said:
Thanks for the info but it looks like mine is going to be crippled.
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I see, sorry to hear that. It sounds weird to me to do that, but then again I have no clue about this type of work.
Maybe the crippling could be worked around or undone by people with good Android knowledge - but I suppose it might not be the best idea to go against company policy.
Elanguescence said:
I see, sorry to hear that. It sounds weird to me to do that, but then again I have no clue about this type of work.
Maybe the crippling could be worked around or undone by people with good Android knowledge - but I suppose it might not be the best idea to go against company policy.
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I don't think they're doing anything all that special to cripple it. They just won't all have sim cards or a cell plan. Pretty much as simple as that.
I won't be doing anything to circumvent that though or rooting it or anything like that. It's not like it's a gift and it belongs to me or anything. After almost 22 years, I've kind of grown to like my job and getting a paycheck every two weeks.I'd kind of like to keep it for another 15 or 20 years. Who knows, maybe my manager will decide that I need cell service with mine.
I work for a large automaker in the U.S. We have over 2.8 million square feet under roof. Personally, I can be anywhere on in the plant, on the roof, in pits & sub-basements underneath or anywhere on or near the 50 acre plant site at any given time. A lot of what I need to do on a daily basis is through our intranet portal. They're putting in something like 500 new wi-fi repeaters/extenders all around the plant as well. They're purchasing these for over 300 first line supervisors at my site alone. I'm pretty sure they're doing this corporate-wide so I hate to think what they're spending on these things as a corporation. I'm sure it would bankrupt many small nations! In addition to giving us portal access away from the desk, these are meant to replace our aging industrial radio system. As expensive as these are, they're still much cheaper than $1.5 to $2k per person for a radio that has no other built-in functionality and these do seem pretty ruggedized.
Still a shame about the phone functionality though.
- Byron
Can you see what browser it comes with? Can you install (untrusted) APKs directly without rooting it?
FYI, in case anyone's wondering, there is a version with Google apps on the way (if it isn't already orderable).
Sent from my Moto X
tfnico said:
Can you see what browser it comes with? Can you install (untrusted) APKs directly without rooting it?
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Browser is a standard one, which comes with other devices. Name is Browser.apk and version is 1.0.9
It's possible to install unsigned APK's without rooting.
google account
Hi,
I got stucked with trying to get google calendars from my google account to TC55.
I found one solution to setup google account as a corporate one, but it's not available anymore due to change in google policy.
I can setup google mail via email account, but that doesn't bring me my calendars to the device.
I tried to install gapps but without success.
Is there any other way?
Thanks.
Motorola work on google apps for TC55.There is in beta.
Elanguescence said:
... here are two things I found so far:
It does not come with any Google apps: no Maps, no Gmail, no Play store and so on.
It is easily rooted with Framaroot using the Gandalf exploit.
(I cannot post this info into the Framaroot thread due to my low post count).
Anyway, maybe this helps someone. I will be happy to try to answer any questions about the TC55, but keep in mind I am no pro and I am not keen in messing around in its internals much more than I have done already.
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Obviously u rooted, can u install gapps in it?
RjCode said:
Obviously u rooted, can u install gapps in it?
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No idea, I haven't tried. As far as I understand gapps are usually installed via flashing a zip from recovery, and the stock recovery of the TC55 does not have that option, it only allows reflashing a whole image, if I understand it correctly. Either way, I have come to appreciate the open source alternatives and do not want to get Google on my phone, so I will not try, sorry.
However, going by this thread over at the Motorola support forum, it seems it won't take long until there is official gapps support:
https://developer.motorolasolutions.com/thread/4989
Motorola has now released a TC55-firmware with Google apps. Here are the release notes:
https://atgsupportcentral.motorolasolutions.com/content/emb/docs/ReleaseNotes/Release%20Notes%20-%20%20TC55_RevAPlus_GMS_01%2074G_v10.htm
According to the support email they sent me, to get the actual release you need to perform the following arcane ritual:
Resolution Type is : Software Download
Resolution Id is : 95562
Resolution Title is : TC55 Update Image v1.74 with GMS (Google Mobile Service) Release Note & Factory Reset & Enterprise Enabler package
restrictedSW :
T55N0JGMVRUEN17400.zip 321 MB TC55 OS Recovery Update package
T55N0JGMVAUEN17400.apf 321 MB TC55 OS update package file for deployment using MSP
If you require access to OS files for TC55 1.74 GMS then call the local Support Desk and provide following information:
a. Site ID
b. Serial #(s)
c. Phone #
d. Customer name (First and Last)
e. E-mail address
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Don't ask me what the local support desk number is, or the site ID, or why they have to make this so complicated.
Hi Elanguescence,
I think I screwed up my tc55 by enabling the multiuser function without first creating the white list. Now all the users (with admin rights) does not have access to all the programs, including Applock Administrator and Multiuser administrator.
To cut things short, do you know of a way to reset the device? I don't mind setting it to factory default and start over. I've googled it and some said to launch Rapid Deployment and scan a barcode from there... but my Rapid Deployment just says "Service Not Ready, Please Wait" and get stuck there.
Any help appreciated. Thank you.
Any TC55 users here? Should be getting my unit w/ GMS soon... How do you guys like it?
Is the bootloader locked?
Sent from my Moto X
Hey!
I want to Buy one TC55 for me. Normally i hate Android and the Google stuff on the Phone but some Motorola Salesman told me there is a version with out.
Now i use an Sybian Device. That mean i am "offline" the hole time and when i need Internet the Phone connect the the Internet.
So how about that phone can i work "offline" to?
I will also use an VPN Tunnel to block on my backend all Connnection i dont want. Does all Data trough this VPN Tunnel ?
How about the Barcode Scanning does it work good?
I know for 2D i need to use the Cam but how works it when i am in some other Application?
Nobody?
Ok. I just bought a TC55 from a Friend and I was wondering if someone would post the update to get GSM and the Factory Reset packages. I went to the page and it requires all the information posted above before. Mine is rooted, but i am trying to install GAPS but the recovery is the basic and cannot. I manually installed Google Play and the Google Play Services but Google Play services keep crashing and the Play Store will not connect, any ideas ?
the are 2 versions one with google s... service and the other without.
So i belive you have the first?
(Can i ask you some question about that phone?)
I believe nothing is secure in my phone including passwords, security pin and even what i'm typing now. Recently, my facebook acct got hacked too.I think my phone is being keylogged. So, I did the following things:
1.First of all, I resetted mydevice
2. Then, I even changed the rom
But, still I feel insecure. I want to know is there any way that the keylogging is kernel masked? Do I need to update the kernel? I need to know about the things I should do to make sure that my phone is completely keylogger free. Please help!
dreamer04 said:
I believe nothing is secure in my phone including passwords, security pin and even what i'm typing now. Recently, my facebook acct got hacked too.I think my phone is being keylogged. So, I did the following things:
1.First of all, I resetted mydevice
2. Then, I even changed the rom
But, still I feel insecure. I want to know is there any way that the keylogging is kernel masked? Do I need to update the kernel? I need to know about the things I should do to make sure that my phone is completely keylogger free. Please help!
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Im no expert in this subject, but what I would do is Flash a new Rom and kernel, then Monitor packets send and recieved by the phone with an app, or with a router. The rooting method also matters. So, Flash the original OEM Software first. Rooting methods that harvest IMEIs have been reported. So, dont go with the "one clickers" to root your device method, but do it the Long way.
I am curretly also using a Firewall in my phone and also my Connection goes through a router with a Firewall.
Normally, I never enter sensitive data when in a dangerous enviroment, such as an unprotected Caffe WiFi.
If you are concerned about a keylogger, then you should be more concerned on how you got your device infected.
I usually refrain from using the Google Appstore. I mostly use Open Source programs/apps that can be compiled or tested
You should look into Fdroid, which Hosts open source apps, not many, but there are some.
Tell me what to do?
My phone is over heating too. So I installed network log from play store and watched the log. I found my phone sending and receiving packets through kernel.
I have uploaded the screenshots with this. Please have a look and tell me is this normal or if it isn't, what to do?.
Also, before unlocking the lock screen shows some messages as in the screenshot. But, after unlocking there is no such messages exist.
Please help.
dreamer04 said:
My phone is over heating too. So I installed network log from play store and watched the log. I found my phone sending and receiving packets through kernel.
I have uploaded the screenshots with this. Please have a look and tell me is this normal or if it isn't, what to do?.
Also, before unlocking the lock screen shows some messages as in the screenshot. But, after unlocking there is no such messages exist.
Please help.
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I'm not sure about the message in your lockscreen but the IP's in your kernel log seem to be corresponding with these domains:
Host 24.9.193.104.in-addr.arpa. not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
Host 233.127.230.115.in-addr.arpa. not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
Host 54.213.160.61.in-addr.arpa. not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
Host 108.213.160.61.in-addr.arpa. not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
233.24.249.123.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer error-cdnzz-com.cdnzz.net.
188.200.125.74.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer sa-in-f188.1e100.net.
As you can see, the first 4 are unresolved, hence there is no domain linked to the IP.
The last 2 do have a domain linked, but I'm have no idea if they are used for malicious stuff.
But like shadowcore said, shouldn't you be more concerned about where you got this infection from?
After resetting and reinstalling a new rom, there are little places left for a logger/malicous-app to have been hiding.
What you could do is install OSMonitor. This is yet another logging app, but it provides you with a list of all the current running processes and connections, with the option to watch it, or kill it. Maybe you can use this to filter out any loggers still on running your device. You can find it on the Play Store.
You can also restrict networktraffic with AFWall+, which is a firewall app. It takes some time to configure, but it does wonders.
Also: Unclefab has written a really good tutorial about securing your phone, in a multitude of ways.
It's here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/security/tuto-how-to-secure-phone-t2960077
Traffic through the kernel is normal see:
Code:
https://github.com/ukanth/afwall/wiki/FAQ#34-why-the-kernel-need-an-internet-connection-all-the-time-afwall-shows-appid--11-blocked
You should probably install afwall+ to restrict internet access to some apps.
Howdy (and apologies ahead of time if this is a dup, I _did_ search, didn't find anything),
Is it just me or did application specific passwords break with Lollipop? Googled a bit and couldn't find any details. I just see postings stating that 2fa works now, but I don't see how that negates the need for app specific passwords.
I know 2fa is now supported but I'm a bit concerned to use my normal password as I'm not sure if it's stored in any way. Anyone know of any links that explain what exactly is stored and how the auth is persisted across reboots? Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but I thought that if my device was lost, with app passwords I could revoke the device without changing my main password.
The other issue is, since I'm using 2fa with the google auth app on this phone I wouldn't even be able to setup if I wiped this phone (which I will need to). At least prevously I could login to my google account on my PC, create the app specific password and sign on that way.
- TIA for any info
I have just upgraded my Nexus 5 from 4.4.4 into 5.0.1 (I didn't install 5.0.0). What I did:
1. Factory reset on 4.4.4
2. Install system update into 5.0.1
2. Factory reset on 5.0.1
3. Application specific password NOT accepted on initial account setup on Nexus 5. I had to use my master password and code list because you can't read sms before account is added on the phone.
Is this really broken? I haven't found any info on this either.
Wow, someone else who was using this feature. That makes 2 of us at least. I guess that's why they removed it...? Yeah, unless I'm missing something it appears it's indeed broken.
The best part is this isn't really part of Android, but part of gapps; no way to report bugs for that (at least that I've found). Someone opened a bug against AOSP but they closed it as this stuff isn't part of AOSP:
{scheme}code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=57863&can=1&q=app%20specific%20password&colspec=ID%20Type%20Status%20Owner%20Summary%20Stars
They suggested using the "google mobile help forum"; I guess this page links to it: {scheme}googlemobile.blogspot.com/2008/11/got-questions-try-new-google-mobile.html - following the link just gives an error "no group mobile found" or something similar.
All I could see to do was to post a response to their help page on signing in with app specific password to Play pointing out the inaccuracy of the article. I can't find that article anymore, it looks like it might've been removed? I received no response to that.
I can't imagine this being a very difficult feature to support, so I'm a little surprised it was removed. But hey, at least they added all sorts of eye candy and other crap I don't really care about.
I think this is a deal breaker for me. Unless I'm misunderstanding here, if someone were to acquire my phone and extract the password the key or whatever it's storing, they would then be able to access my account settings and take full ownership. If it only had the app specific password, I don't think that'd allow them to modify security settings. If it's tieing the key to the device, that's great but I still can't revoke it (doesn't show up in the app specific password page). Unacceptable (again, unless I'm misunderstanding something?).
Maybe it's time to start looking for alternatives. Wonder if any Maemo derivatives can run on the M8? It was miles ahead of Android in all departments except eye candy anyways...
I'll reply here if I see any more info - please do the same.
This is totally broken.
My company uses App Specific Passwords and I just updated my Droid Turbo to Lollipop.
After the update, everything worked fine. However, I started getting google play service errors and had to wipe.
Now I need to log in using my authenticator password instead of my app specific password.
Not good
dragonash said:
This is totally broken.
My company uses App Specific Passwords and I just updated my Droid Turbo to Lollipop.
After the update, everything worked fine. However, I started getting google play service errors and had to wipe.
Now I need to log in using my authenticator password instead of my app specific password.
Not good
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Agreed. Quite unfortunate, but I can't find anyone outside of this thread and a few random posts that seem to actually care.
Thanks for confirmation that this is still a problem, btw. I'm still not sure if there's anyplace to even raise this to Google...
i just spent an hour trying to understand why this smart feature wasn't working on my new mobile with a stock andorid lollipop! at least i feel less lonely now...
i sent a feedback to google even if i don't think they'll reply.. i opened a ticket on AOSP website (Issue 189310) if you want to check their reply.. sorry but i can't post outside links
Okay so ive been battling this for sometime. I'm starting to get a little more knowledgeable but still don't know what to do with all this.I experienced this first back in 2015 then I completely made a switch. Well now I'm back to same issues.
The problems I'm experiencing is it's happening on all the devices I have. The phone I'm on now bought brand new from metropcs. and not even a day 30minutes later I get an update for the phone. I new not to install or download. But it inventively did. Now it's sitting on my storage wanting me to move files to root.
LET ME MAKE THIS CLEAR. NON OF MY DEVICES ARE ROOTED.
to make this short. My devices seem to have a Bluetooth admin. And connects to any Bluetooth device without me knowing.
So far from what I see chromium and stage fright is a big part of what I'm seeing.
I'm attaching some pictures to give more detail look. And it's not just my Android devices it's my Xbox one S as well.
looking to completely remove. I'm not trying to waste money on switching networks or completly going Mia.
Fast responses please.
Sincerly,
-Desperate androidian
BLEEDCOLORYOU said:
Okay so ive been battling this for sometime. I'm starting to get a little more knowledgeable but still don't know what to do with all this.I experienced this first back in 2015 then I completely made a switch. Well now I'm back to same issues.
The problems I'm experiencing is it's happening on all the devices I have. The phone I'm on now bought brand new from metropcs. and not even a day 30minutes later I get an update for the phone. I new not to install or download. But it inventively did. Now it's sitting on my storage wanting me to move files to root.
LET ME MAKE THIS CLEAR. NON OF MY DEVICES ARE ROOTED.
to make this short. My devices seem to have a Bluetooth admin. And connects to any Bluetooth device without me knowing.
So far from what I see chromium and stage fright is a big part of what I'm seeing.
I'm attaching some pictures to give more detail look. And it's not just my Android devices it's my Xbox one S as well.
looking to completely remove. I'm not trying to waste money on switching networks or completly going Mia.
Fast responses please.
Sincerly,
-Desperate androidian
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The Android community isn't what it used to be that's for sure. No help, no suggestions. Just nothing.
BLEEDCOLORYOU said:
Okay so ive been battling this for sometime. I'm starting to get a little more knowledgeable but still don't know what to do with all this.I experienced this first back in 2015 then I completely made a switch. Well now I'm back to same issues.
The problems I'm experiencing is it's happening on all the devices I have. The phone I'm on now bought brand new from metropcs. and not even a day 30minutes later I get an update for the phone. I new not to install or download. But it inventively did. Now it's sitting on my storage wanting me to move files to root.
LET ME MAKE THIS CLEAR. NON OF MY DEVICES ARE ROOTED.
to make this short. My devices seem to have a Bluetooth admin. And connects to any Bluetooth device without me knowing.
So far from what I see chromium and stage fright is a big part of what I'm seeing.
I'm attaching some pictures to give more detail look. And it's not just my Android devices it's my Xbox one S as well.
looking to completely remove. I'm not trying to waste money on switching networks or completly going Mia.
Fast responses please.
Sincerly,
-Desperate androidian
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I'm no expert but I'm struggling to see your exact issue you seem to think you have, is it just t your Bluetooth is switching on. All those licences, security certs, file locations etc look normal to me (without checking numbers or being able to compare to same phone os etc) though I have disabled many of those certs eg the Turkish ones etc & my Bluetooth files are different but I can find ref hill those locations online eg Xieomi phones
You appear to have a ZTE, please give model number and current OS & rev (must be stock I suppose). ZTE was found with a backdoor in older phones, sending data to China, so it's possible, & some Chinese phones also update their apps without notification. But as you say your whole network appears compromised so the source may be something else, like your router/modem, or Bluetooth as you think (though some apps require Bluetooth admin permission legitimately, you can disable it as an Admin). Tell us what behaviors you are seeing that you believe are malicious. New phone update soon after you turn on is quite common, as I'm sure you know.
When I had a quick look at your log it did have a lot of activity going to the US DOD, would you expect this, as well as the usual google & Facebook connections. Though (perhaps) strangely also to a server from a small marketing company here in Australia, but I'm no expert even if I looked at your log line by line I wouldn't understand it all.
Ref his other post
https://forum.xda-developers.com/general/security/security-global-family-credientals-t3665851
Things to try. Run a reputable antivirus. Boot into safe mode, so only system apps run, is it still happening? Can you turn off anything that is listed as a device admin? Try run a root checker app. Even if it all comes back negative you may still have a problem as a port may already have been opened and malicious app self deleted or something. Use an app like Fing to see if any device you don't recognise are connected to your network.
You may be able to block some activity if it's not going through root with a firewall eg NetGuard no root firewall, start with everything blocked.
Above are just some general hints, without knowing specifics I can only suggest you backup any stuff you want to keep then factory reset everything & change ALL passwords to strong ones (no good just adding a number on the end of your old ones!), better still reflash all firmware (updates if available) to overwrite everything. This incl your internet access points eg router, and only reconnect to the net/networks after you have done them all (one at a time preferably then you may be able to identify source of problems)
That turned out a lot longer than I intended!
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I'm no expert but I'm struggling to see your exact issue you seem to think you have, is it just t your Bluetooth is switching on. All those licences, security certs, file locations etc look normal to me (without checking numbers or being able to compare to same phone os etc) though I have disabled many of those certs eg the Turkish ones etc & my Bluetooth files are different but I can find ref hill those locations online eg Xieomi phones
You appear to have a ZTE, please give model number and current OS & rev (must be stock I suppose). ZTE was found with a backdoor in older phones, sending data to China, so it's possible, & some Chinese phones also update their apps without notification. But as you say your whole network appears compromised so the source may be something else, like your router/modem, or Bluetooth as you think (though some apps require Bluetooth admin permission legitimately, you can disable it as an Admin). Tell us what behaviors you are seeing that you believe are malicious. New phone update soon after you turn on is quite common, as I'm sure you know.
When I had a quick look at your log it did have a lot of activity going to the US DOD, would you expect this, as well as the usual google & Facebook connections. Though (perhaps) strangely also to a server from a small marketing company here in Australia, but I'm no expert even if I looked at your log line by line I wouldn't understand it all.
Things to try. Run a reputable antivirus. Boot into safe mode, so only system apps run, is it still happening? Can you turn off anything that is listed as a device admin? Try run a root checker app. Even if it all comes back negative you may still have a problem as a port may already have been opened and malicious app self deleted or something. Use an app like Fing to see if any device you don't recognise are connected to your network.
You may be able to block some activity if it's not going through root with a firewall eg NetGuard no root firewall, start with everything blocked.
Above are just some general hints, without knowing specifics I can only suggest you backup any stuff you want to keep then factory reset everything & change ALL passwords to strong ones (no good just adding a number on the end of your old ones!), better still reflash all firmware (updates if available) to overwrite everything. This incl your internet access points eg router, and only reconnect to the net/networks after you have done them all (one at a time preferably then you may be able to identify source of problems)
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Thank-you. Now for a better visual. There's to many apps.
And if u can give me links to apps that will help.
And on my oneplus one the Bluetooth thing says :1002 sharing or midi or something.
BLEEDCOLORYOU said:
Thank-you. Now for a better visual. There's to many apps.
And if u can give me links to apps that will help.
And on my oneplus one the Bluetooth thing says :1002 sharing or midi or something.
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And code.auroa? What is this
BLEEDCOLORYOU said:
Thank-you. Now for a better visual. There's to many apps.
And if u can give me links to apps that will help.
And on my oneplus one the Bluetooth thing says :1002 sharing or midi or something.
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I don't have that phone so can't really tell what is a suspect app or not, especially just from screen shots.
Here use this app to run on demand scans against the virustotal database (this is not an "antivirus app" like Avast so offers no protection, it only scans apps on demand, so you should run a good antivirus also)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.funnycat.virustotal
it should flag any suspect apps and you can submit any unknown ones you are worried about.
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BLEEDCOLORYOU said:
And code.auroa? What is this
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edit: not Firefox then.
org.codeaurora.bluetooth is a legit part of Bluetooth .... Well unless it's flagged by virustotal then it probably is a malicious app just given a common name to try and hide
IronRoo said:
I don't have that phone so can't really tell what is a suspect app or not, especially just from screen shots.
Here use this app to run on demand scans against the virustotal database (this is not an "antivirus app" like Avast so offers no protection)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.funnycat.virustotal
it should flag any suspect apps and you can submit any unknown ones you are worried about.
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Okay but what is provisioning? Code auroa smartcard services googleplay for instance apps and
And IV never encrypted this phone.
BLEEDCOLORYOU said:
Okay but what is provisioning? Code auroa smartcard services googleplay for instance apps and
And IV never encrypted this phone.
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And alot of the overlay apps n simtoolkit are all questionmarked
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And alot of the overlay apps n simtoolkit are all questionmarked
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ser my edit above re aurora
sometimes virustotal will have 2 or 3 antiivirus companies flag a file, these are probably false positives so probably nothing to worry about (though could just be a new submission, other companies should soon update if real malicious code, check back in a day or two). If lots of companies flag an apk then you haven a problem.
It looks like you have a problem whit overlays (unless it's an app your phone company installs for that function, not sure what you mean). You should install a proper antivirus app like Avast, malwarebytes etc as a first step, hopefully it can remove malicious apk
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And IV never encrypted this phone.
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Doesn't matter, encrypting phone only protects unauthorised access to your data. Once it is unlocked anyone can view your stuff. And once a malicious app is on your system it can shall read all your data even if you had encrypted it as it's unencrypted when you use it
IronRoo said:
ser my edit above re aurora
sometimes virustotal will have 2 or 3 antiivirus companies flag a file, these are probably false positives so probably nothing to worry about (though could just be a new submission, other companies should soon update if real malicious code, check back in a day or two). If lots of companies flag an apk then you haven a problem.
It looks like you have a problem whit overlays (unless it's an app your phone company installs for that function). You should install a proper antivirus app like Avast, malwarebytes etc as a first step, hopefully it can remove malicious apk
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Doesn't matter, encrypting phone only protects unauthorised access to your data. Once it is unlocked anyone can view your stuff. And once a malicious app is on your system it can shall read all your data even if you had encrypted it as it's unencrypted when you use it
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Okay so now I'm trying to post screenshots of when I'm connected to wifi and it's not letting me
Pairwise cyphers and
Group cyphers
Sim_num
?
BLEEDCOLORYOU said:
And alot of the overlay apps n simtoolkit are all questionmarked
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Tap those with question marks to submit to virustotal for analysis
IronRoo said:
Tap those with question marks to submit to virustotal for analysis
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/sys/fs/selinux/class/appletalk_socket/perms
Not suspious?
BLEEDCOLORYOU said:
/sys/fs/selinux/class/appletalk_socket/perms
Not suspious?
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Now I'm not stupid, this is facts. I just need defined and solution!!!
No these are normal library files. Stagefright "the malicious exploits" were called this as it was the stagefright framework it exploited. Everyone has these files, here are mine below.
You need to use tools like antivirus to identify bad files but even that is no guarantee as there is the possibility the original malicious file could have self deleted and, for example, just left open ports which would not be found as a "virus" but still allow remote access to your device.
If you cannot identify the actual exploit on your phone then the best solution is probably to just reflash the stock rom as this will wipe & overwrite everything. But if a malicious file is left on your SD card or another networked device you could soon be infected/compromised again. That is why I said before if you can't identify the source of your infection you really need to factory reset or reinstall all OS on all devices affected including your home router etc (or maybe it's your work or public network) and change all passwords.
IronRoo said:
No these are normal library files. Stagefright "the malicious exploits" were called this as it was the stagefright framework it exploited. Everyone has these files, here are mine below.
You need to use tools like antivirus to identify bad files but even that is no guarantee as there is the possibility the original malicious file could have self deleted and, for example, just left open ports which would not be found as a "virus" but still allow remote access to your device.
If you cannot identify the actual exploit on your phone then the best solution is probably to just reflash the stock rom as this will wipe & overwrite everything. But if a malicious file is left on your SD card or another networked device you could soon be infected/compromised again. That is why I said before if you can't identify the source of your infection you really need to factory reset or reinstall all OS on all devices affected including your home router etc (or maybe it's your work or public network) and change all passwords.
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I'm on a video bridge network I got the direct TV setup with 2 wireless setups. Both secure from what I know.
BLEEDCOLORYOU said:
Pairwise cyphers and
Group cyphers
Sim_num
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These are for encryption of your connection, not your phone
BLEEDCOLORYOU said:
I'm on a video bridge network I got the direct TV setup with 2 wireless setups. Both secure from what I know.
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I'm no coding/security guru, but I have worked on telecoms, military electronics, etc but my coding & network security knowledge is limited.
I would run this app Fing to check your local network, are there any unknown devices connected?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.overlook.android.fing
note: this only finds currently connected devices, so you'd want to do this several times & especially when you see suspect behavior.
Also check for open ports, easiest way is probably this site, it will scan the first 1000 ports or so (select all)
https://www.grc.com/
go to shields up
but you really need to scan ALL possible ports with a tool like Zenmap (for PC) if you think you are compromised
https://nmap.org/zenmap/
However it's not clear to me if you ever installed a proper antivirus and whether it found and deleted anything? Virustotal seemed to find some suspect apks, I had a quick look at Trendmicro database but it didn't list details of the one it found in your screenshot, but the fact some of those antivirus companies called the suspect apk names with "joke" in it may suggest it's just a joke app your mate has installed, though probably not a joke app if your other devices are really also compromised, from memory there is also real malware with that name which may be able to infect other devices. Running a proper antivirus should easily find and clean any "joke" app on your phone & hopefully any real malware. If you've done this and still seeing indications you are compromised then do what I suggested above. (Also repeat malware checks on other devices and removable storage media)
You should also log into your router as admin and check settings, are you using a secure router password? Is firmware up to date. Is firewall set up correctly? Also close any open ports that you don't use. Turn off remote admin, if router has it. Etc etc what do your router logs show (turn on more detailed logging if necessary) Factory reset or reinstall firmware if you think changes have been made to your router by someone else.
Hi I am having same issues. Exact same behaviors regardless of new phones new carrier and all accounts being unconnected in name. Google etc. This is extreme. Its via bluetooth I agree something with esims or virtual sims for use of wifi access and or signal piracy for media. The DOD files are also something I am familier with seeing. Code Aurora was also a govt project way back. Its Interesting thst I have Verizon files loading on at & t phones and sprint loading on Verizon. Whatever this is has managed to infiltrate my computers as well. Its relentless. Its impressive and sophisticated. Please please help.
Spidder77 said:
Hi I am having same issues. Exact same behaviors regardless of new phones new carrier and all accounts being unconnected in name. Google etc. This is extreme. Its via bluetooth I agree something with esims or virtual sims for use of wifi access and or signal piracy for media. The DOD files are also something I am familier with seeing. Code Aurora was also a govt project way back. Its Interesting thst I have Verizon files loading on at & t phones and sprint loading on Verizon. Whatever this is has managed to infiltrate my computers as well. Its relentless. Its impressive and sophisticated. Please please help.
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I'm having the same issmy ues. Did anyone ever resolve or figure out what is happening? I think I'm under investigation by the DOD and they own my devices. My uploads/downloads are blocked, internet searches filtered, pics/screenshots of evidence deleted off my phone, etc.