I hope this is the right place to put this, if not, mods, feel free to remove and/or delete it. I've dabbled a bit with C before, but that's about the extent of my programming experience. I'd like to create a program that will parse the information from a website and display it... I don't imagine something like that would be hard to do, but I have no idea what tools I would even need to start writing a PPC application.
Kitco (a website that gives live quotes of precious metals) recently came out with an application for the iphone that neatly formats all this information:
http://www.kitco.com/images/banners/KitcoiPhone/iphone.html
I'd like to basically create a PPC version of this application.
Is this something that an individual with next to no experience could hope to achieve ? I'd have to create a GUI, initialize the internet, connect and retrieve a webpage and remove the relevent information before displaying it.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. I've always wanted to become more familiar with these sorts of things and figured this project would be a great way of learning it.
Thanks!
ThreadMoved
Next to no experience? I dont think so. You have to have a little under your belt first and the only way to achieve that is to start readin right here!
I'm also interested in the expert answers to this question.
My very non-expert understanding is as follows:
VS 2005 (microsoft visual studio) can create executables for WM devices using a SDK (low level) or .Net CF (medium level) interface. You want to use .Net CF (compact framework) because it is supposed to make things easier. I think you have to use C++ to use the SDK but you can use C++, C#, or Visual Basic and write to .NET CF.
VS 2005 is an IDE (integrated development environment). It contains features to edit, compile, and even test your program using simulator/debugger. I think there are some non-microsoft IDE's that can also generate Windows Mobile code -- there is a market for cross-platform environments (e.g. programmers write code using a special library instead of the windows SDK or .NET function and the same source code can be compiled to run on Blackberry, iPhone, S60, Windows Mobile, etc...)
Instead of writing to the phone hardware (or .NET abstraction) directly, you can write your application using Java. You would use some Java compatible IDE (like Eclipse, Jbuilder, or NetBeans) to create Java applets that you download to your phone. You'd have to install a Java VM (virtual machine) on your phone to run these applets. I think the downloadable games for phones are Java applets.
Disclaimer: I haven't worn my "programming cap" since 2001 and hopefully things have gotten simpler. In my previous life I designed operating systems for mainframe computers.
Hello !
SUMMARY: How to run pocketsphinx_continuous on mobile phone with Android, and how to do it with simulator of mobile phone with Android. PocketSphinx can be downloaded for free here, for both Linux and Windows: http://cmusphinx.sourceforge.net/html/download.php .
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
SHORT EXPLANATION
I'd like to create application for mobile phone and server such that:
1. User runs application on mobile phone with Android, this application uses PocketSphinx. It is Automatic Speech Recognition software for devices like mobile phones, written in C. Somebody told me that "Pocketsphinx is used successfully on Symbian with minimal effort". (However I think Android may be better choice). My knowledge about Android is limited but I know something about CMU Sphinx. Can you help me, please, to run this PocketSphinx on Android? I also need to find simulator of mobile phone with Android. I have already found Wireless Toolkit and I tried to use this emulator, however I think it doesn't allow to run simulation of mobile phones with Android. (By the way I am limited in my project to mobile phone of the price up to about 160 euro; which Android version would be best for my application?).
2. This application communicates with the user. The users speaks digits and some other words (dictionary is about fifteen words, I can create language and acoustic models, as well as formal grammar in CMU Sphinx, with the use of SphinxTrain). The application recognizes those digits.
3. Based on this talk, mobile phone sends information about results of recognition to the server. I can do it in Java for CLDC/MIDP with httpconnection, POST method on the mobile phone side and with Tomcat on server. I think this httpconnection must be possible not only in Java ME, but also in Android C. But this is thing which will bother me later, now I'd like to run pocketsphinx_continuous on Android and try to modify it according to my needs.
Summing up, what I'd like to know is how to run demo pocketsphinx_continuous on mobile phone with Android, and how to do it with simulator of mobile phone with Android. (I've got Wireless Toolkit but I think it is not capable of running Android). PocketSphinx can be downloaded for free here, for both Linux and Windows: http://cmusphinx.sourceforge.net/html/download.php . There are two ways of installing it in Ubuntu. First is to unpack it (it is tar.gz), enter its directory and type "./configure", "make", "sudo make install". The other, different, is written in README file, i.e. run autogen.sh, "./configure", "make clean all", "make test", "make install". The result should be, among many other files, javadoc in doc directory.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
LONG EXPLANATION
What is required to give me some advices is written above. So if you don't want / don't have time to read the whole text, just above explanation is enough. But let me say about other possible approaches which I try to do. Those are worse than what I explained above, but I also tried them.
CMU Sphinx contains SphinxTrain to create acoustic model. It has got some different recognizers (also called decoders), those are PocketSphinx, Sphinx4 and some other. PocketSphinx is written in C and is for devices like mobile phones. Sphinx4 is Java application for PCs because it requires better hardware. There is good tutorial about using SphinxTrain with Sphinx4. It is here: http://www.speech.cs.cmu.edu/sphinx/tutorial.html . There is no similar tutorial for PocketSphinx. However with some knowledge about Android and C it is possible to run it on Android. The other approach than PocketSphinx, is using this Sphinx4. However it requires connection between mobile phone and server, sending audio data from cellular phone to server. It can be done with Skype, but there is still problem on server side with redirecting sound from Skype to Sphinx4. So you see there are two different approaches. One is to run speech recognition on mobile phone with PocketSphinx and Android. The other is speech recognition on server with Sphinx4. There are some ways to follow this second option. One is Skype on both server and mobile phone. (But there is problem with redirecting speech from Skype to Sphinx4). The other is too expensive Digium card. The third one is IVR, but I still look for good open-source IVR software. All of those three ways of second option involve Sphinx4. It was much easier to create application with Sphinx4. It is for PCs, not embedded devices, because it requires better device, extensive floating point math and some other things. But it has much better documentation than PocketSphinx. But I want to use PocketSphinx because I don't need to pay to anybody for access to mobile internet in order to send data through internet for application like Skype. The access to internet is required only for short time to send little text data with httpconnection, POST method. This is why I'd like you to help me, please, with running pocketsphinx_continuous on simulator of PocketSphinx on mobile phone with Android. (By the way, I see I've got installed S60 Developer Tools -> 3rd Edition FP1 SDK -> MIDP -> Emulator).
Summing up in a list, those are in CMU Sphinx:
I. SphinxTrain, which I can use to create files needed for speech recognition
II. decoders which use speech input and some files which I create with SphinxTrain, to follow speech recognition (input speech + files from SphinxTrain = are used by decoder)
II-1. PocketSphinx, written in C, for devices like mobile phones
II-2. Sphinx3, written in C, for PCs, actually the best developed
II-3. Sphinx4, written in Java, for PCs, with the best documentation
II-4. Some other, older versions
Those are possible approaches of solving my task:
I. Speech recognition on mobile phone with PocketSphinx. This is much better way than [II].
Problems: 1. running PocketSphinx on mobile phone with Android. 2. simulating mobile phone with Android on PC. I also thought that maybe I should consider Meamo, what do you think about it? Or use things different than CMU Sphinx, e.g. Simon, HTK, Julius. I looked at those other ASR engines and I think PocketSphinx may be best choice.
II. Speech recognition on server with Sphinx4. There are some different ways of establishing voice connection between mobile phone and server.
II-1. ordinary call from mobile phone to server; server has got Digium card. Disadvantage: Digium card is expensive.
II-2. to use Skype on both mobile phone and server. Problem: redirecting of sound from Skype to Sphinx4 and vice versa.
II-3. can you think about any other ways? I found that Asterisk may be useful.
Greetings !
Summing up, what I'd like to know is how to run demo pocketsphinx_continuous on mobile phone with Android
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
First step would be to setup a toolchain and compile the prog for android
or statically linked with uClibc.
Then push it onto your device and test if it works as expected.
You can also push it onto the android emulator that comes with the sdk.
Just my 2 cents...
Thank you very much!
Can you give me any links to tutorials which can be useful for me?
By the way I know how to create my own application in Sphinx4 and I know how to run demo in PocketSphinx, but I've got some difficulties with creating my own application for PocketSphinx. So if you can have a look at PocketSphinx http://cmusphinx.sourceforge.net/html/download.php and tell me which files I need to have to create new project for PocketSphinx, I would be greatful. I mean that for Sphinx4 the only what I need to do is to enter S:\tutorial\sphinx4-1.0beta3-src\src\apps\edu\cmu\sphinx\demo\helloworld and create my own ...\demo\my_application, and inside it analogically to what is here ...\demo\helloworld. In the case of PocketSphinx, to run the application, I need to enter S:\tutorial\pocketsphinx\doc and run pocketsphinx_continuous. So I check what I've got in this file and I cannot see what files and where I need to have in order to create new project. I uploaded directory doc with pocketsphinx_continuous here: http://www.speedyshare.com/files/19429494/doc.7z
Greetings and thanks once more !
Rough outline: You'll need the Android SDK and NDK, both of which are available from http://developer.android.com/. The NDK will allow you to compile C code. You'll need to wrap the C core in a Java layer to make it accessible to the rest of the Android system. The SDK also includes an emulator, which I believe you've asked for if I understand you right.
I haven't actually attempted this, so that's about all the help I can be, but there is sample code included with the NDK that should get you started.
Thanks for your answer !
I check the google and see that NDK is term of Android, because I knew only SDK abbreviation. I assume NDK is especially for porting (like porting PocketSphinx for Android). So am I right that with this NDK I don't need to change code of PocketSphinx? I think it would be too easy .
There also other question which I've got. It is not strictly connected with Symbian but there wouldn't be any need for porting if I won't solve this problem. I've got my application in Sphinx4. There are also examplary appications for Sphinx4 and PocketSphinx. I can run demos from PocketSphinx (as explained in first post), as well as demos from Sphinx4. I can change source code of demos from Sphinx4 to perform my task. I'd like to do similar thing with PocketSphinx, but even if it should be easy task, I cannot do it. In Sphinx4 it is much simpler because all source files are in one directory. In PocketSphinx it is done in somehow different way. (http://cmusphinx.sourceforge.net/html/download.php). Without ability to move my application from Sphinx4 there is no need for me to port this PocketSphinx to Symbian.
Greetings !
johnyjj2 said:
I assume NDK is especially for porting (like porting PocketSphinx for Android). So am I right that with this NDK I don't need to change code of PocketSphinx? I think it would be too easy .
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
NDK is used to write software for Android devices that are compiled natively to the platform -- for now, this usually means ARM. Java as you probably realize is a bytecode intermediate language that the java virtual machine converts to native calls at runtime. This means that Java is generally platform independent whereas your C code is not.
JNI as used with the NDK is the Java Native Interface (or something to that effect). It allows you to call code that has been compiled for a specific processor from Java. This means that you could put heavily optimized super fast calculations in a native library and call them from your Java app.
It could also mean, that you've more or less written your entire application in some native code, and then you have written a java shim that has enough code to initiate and start your native software. Beware, there be dragons here.
The fact that you CAN do this, doesn't mean you SHOULD. There are a lot of benefits to using the android platform and specifically using the android way of writing applications. Concepts like views, activities, intents, etc., greatly simplify how an Android device interacts with other Android devices and provides a consistent and powerful framework.
For something like SCUMMVM, it is a game (platform) that is very linear in design; you are either actively playing it, or it is on pause. How other applications are running while using SCUMMVM is inconsequential. It sounds like you have very different requirements.
Thanks for answer!
Isn't that link (http://cmusphinx.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/cmusphinx?view=rev&revision=9470) simply trying to copy engine library to Symbian, without effect? Only enginge won't help, there is also need to write from zero code which will use this library. So it looks like there is still long way to have it working. Do I understand it properly?
Greetings!
Hi
I work for a small research firm/IT consultancy. I'm attending a meeting in a few weeks time, the meeting is being held by the University of the West of England (a UK Uni) and various local business groups. The aim is to discuss the development of a GPS-based program to help encourage children to exercise. As I have a bit of knowledge about various GPS-based software programs and platforms, I have been asked by a contact of mine to attend.
I've been thinking that by far the most obvious platform to target is the mobile phone - every kid has one and most these days have either GPS built-in or can access a bluetooth GPS device. Now, there are five mobile phone platforms, Java, Nokia's Symbian, Apple's iPhone, Google's Android and Microsoft's Windows Mobile. If an app could be developed across all five platforms, it would be pretty much available to all kids.
As I have very limited experience of these platforms, I was wondering if anyone cared to give any views on the difficulties involved in developing for all five platforms (is it even possible to cross-develop across all these five platforms, or would each one be a separate project?) and any other views pertinent to GPS-based programs for mobile.
Also, if you know of any Android developers (companies) in the South West of England, preferably Bristol, that would also be great.
Rupert Plumridge
Senior Research and Commercial Manager
OTR-Group
www.otr-group.com
All depends of the language that you choose, but remember that mobile devices have some limitations.
Here are some lists of the Windows Mobile limitations: DevBuzz - Windows Mobile Limitations
Cheers for the reply, yeah, I guess language is most important - Java seems the most cross platform - not sure if the iPhone can handle that though.
For iPhone the better choice is Objective-C(CocoaTouch Framework), but you will need to have a Mac if you want to develop for it. This was because I didn't buy a iPhone to start developing for it, I don't have a Mac
For Windows Mobile I suggest you to use C#(.Net 3.5) with Visual Studio 2008 Professional. It's the most featured environment for WM development, or you can try CeGCC.
For Android the best choice will be Java with a very good knowledge of XML. A good link to start is How-To Develop Android Applications
And for Symbian, the best choice will be C++, also take a look at Getting started with Symbian development
Now you choose
You can use C++ on iPhone, WinMobile, Android and Symbian using Airplay SDK - the same compiled app will run on all of them too.
This is a magic bullet for cross platform dev, enjoy!
"For Android the best choice will be Java"
think you get more kernal power in their c++ tdk then java
The purpose of this thread is to provide a list of desktop apps which have been recompiled to run on hacked Windows RT devices. A secondary purpose is to request or discuss such ports. Listing apps which run without recompilation (.NET 4.x) and providing libraries which are ported and/or known to work are also good uses of the thread. However, major apps, or those expected to lead to significant discussion, should probably get their own thread. Please help keep this one organized.
Please post links to compiled apps for Windows RT desktop, and if possible also link to their source code. I will make minimal testing of the apps before listing them, but nothing extensive; apps may have known or unknown issues, and it's even possible that somebody will link malicious apps here. Use at your own risk.
DO NOT request ports of closed-source applications! It's not possible (unless they're pure .NET 4.x, in which case they don't need to be ported) and you will look like a fool and waste your time. Additionally, at this time, code which requires GCC to build (i.e. can't build under MSVC) is impractical to port.
Latest changes
06 Apr: Updated link for IceChat to a newer version (thanks @TheExileFox!)
03 Sep: Updated the link for Process Hacker (thanks again, @bfosterjr!)
10 Apr: Added pForth and Python's LibFFI.
22 Dec: Added TeXStudio.
20 Dec: Added Nethack and Greenshot.
12 Dec: Added MicroEMACS. Updated Subversion and Notepad++.
21 Aug: Added AvP Classic.
20 Aug: Added Paint.NET, highlighted the step needed to use ClassicStartMenu.
16 Aug: Added Subversion and AutoHotKey.
10 Aug: Added Fossil.
22 Jul: Added ffmpeg, Halite, and Lua.
8 Jul: Added QupZilla, SPGT client, and QuiteRSS.
26 Jun: Added Snes9x, FileZilla, and WinMerge.
25 Jun: Added OpenSSL, QT4, and Perl, updated Synergy.
10 Jun: Added Coolplayer (Update: now with FLAC plugin).
7 Jun: Added GlDirect library and ioQuake3.
5 Jun: Updated link for Quake to the D3D version.
12 May: Added MFPDemo (sorry I was late posting it).
2 May: Added WinDjVu.
28 Apr: Added an updated version of MFC.
truncated...
Apps which have been recompiled:
Bochs. x86 Emulator. Known issue: no network support. http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1625048&d=1357575232
TightVNC. VNC server and client. http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1624600&d=1357561475
PuTTY Suite. SSH/Rsh/telnet client and helpers. Printing fixed in this build. http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1637160&d=1357948281
7-Zip. Utility for file archives and disk images. https://mega.co.nz/#!FhQV3SZA!MWayY1mV4b7Bvjs9nJNq_yiQxDEaJFQpnnA3ZNApq7g
Notepad++. Powerful but simple text/code editor New update and Compare plugin. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2556112
SciTE. Code editor (http://www.scintilla.org/SciTE.html). http://fearthecowboy.com/stuff/wscite.zip (Thanks to XDA-Devs member FearTheCowboy)
IP Messenger. Peer-to-peer chat/file transfer (http://ipmsg.org/index.html.en). Binaries at http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1633711&d=1357842066, source at http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1633715&d=1357842310
Unikey 3.6. Known issue: without RtfIO, the "Toolkit" and "Conversion on the fly" features won't work. Older 3.1 build posted below https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8557161/rt/unikeyNT3.62_arm.7z (Thanks minhtuan99bk)
CrystalBoy. Nintendo Gameboy emulator. Known issue: uses GDI+ instead of DirectX, may reduce performance. Conflicting reports as to whether it works. http://sdrv.ms/11kcXXL Thanks to DXA-Developers member daveoggy.
ClassicStartMenu. Provides a hierarchical Start menu on the desktop taskbar. Restart Explorer after you run it! http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1640579&d=1358061318 (Thanks Netham45).
Quake 2. First-person shooter game. http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1640830&d=1358070370
OpenTTD. Open-source clone of Transport Tycoon Deluxe (transportation simulation game). Known issues and download link HERE: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36674868&postcount=151
DOSBox. DOS on x86 emulator. Updated again with better performance. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36620852&postcount=117
Node.JS.: JavaScript program/web server execution environment. Will be slower than usual due to lack of v8 JIT. More info: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36694633&postcount=1
FAR Manager. 2-panel terminal-based File/Archive manager (think Total Commander, etc.). Updated with plugins. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36733772&postcount=1
Miranda IM. Multi-protocol chat/IM client. http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1649674&d=1358334467
Vim, GVim, etc. Code and text editor. Info and download links here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36930991
SumatraPDF. Document reader (PDFs, possibly some other formats). Read and download here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2098594
Audacity. Digital audio recording and editing. Info and downloads: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2103779
VirtuaWin. Virtual desktop utility. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2110131
Mini vMac. Emulator for very early Macintosh computers. http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1662947&d=1358737954
Rainmeter. Desktop customization / skinning tool. Many but not all features work: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=37018422&postcount=282
OpenSSL. Crypto tool, can generate keys and certificates. May have some issues with large ECC keys. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2113595
MiKteX. LaTeX compiler (typesetting tool). Script is interpreted instead of JITed but works fine. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2113634
Greenshot. Advanced screenshot tool. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2114273
Iperf. Network performance testing tool. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37346221#post37346221
MongoDB. NoSQL database. Mongo shell doesn't work correctly locally, but the server works and other clients should as well. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37475852
ScummVM. Game platform for many older games. Known issues: many disabled features and some crashes reported in this early build. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=37583092&postcount=402
ResidualVM. Platform for many old-ish 3D games. Known issues: many disabled features, most engines don't work yet. More info and download: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=37632363&postcount=411
Superputty. Enhanced version of PuTTY Suite with more features. http://sdrv.ms/151FWzT (Thanks to Erwan12)
NZB-O-Matic. Newsgroup post downloader (NZB download tool). http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=37886354&postcount=438
WabbitEMU. Texas Instruments graphing calculator emulator and dev tools. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=37928562&postcount=442
Regshot. Registry shapshot/comparison tool. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=37933687&postcount=1
CorsixTH. Engine for the game Theme Hospital. Includes demo, easy to use full version if you have it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38067653&postcount=466
FreeRA. Command & Conquer Red Alert (RTS game) engine. Requires game data files. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38072727&postcount=468
FreeSynd. Syndicate (game) engine. No cutscene sound, requires game files. https://www.dropbox.com/s/ca0n0atmfl74306/Freesynd.zip
Pentagram. Ultima VIII (game) engine. Required game files. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38295828&postcount=518
Free Download Manager. Standalone file downloader and bittorrent client. Has some known issues but works: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2170002
PrBoom. DOOM game engine (can use the included shareware WAD file or other game files). http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2175449
ChocolateDuke3D. Duke Nukem 3D game engine. Requires game files. Has a known sound bug with workaround. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38752618&postcount=561
GemRG. Infinity game engine clone (used for games like Baldur's Gate, Icewind Dale, and Planescape: Torment). Runs pretty well although some of the newer games may stutter a little. Requires the game files from a standard install. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2177954
Process Hacker. Advanced process inspection / control tool similar to Sysinternals Process Monitor. Updated to 2.33! http://forum.xda-developers.com/windows-8-rt/rt-development/app-processhacker-2-33-t2865384
FinalBurn Alpha. Arcade game emulator. Port is still considered "alpha" quality. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2187370
SharpDevelop. C# IDE. Debugging is not yet supported and some setup work is required: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=39276938&postcount=615
MAME. Arcade machine emulator (requires ROMs). Not yet fully tested; performance issues reported with some games. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2237754
WinDjVu. DjVu document viewer. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40931011&postcount=687
MFPDemo. A desktop player for video files. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40997441&postcount=691
Quake (original version) running in Direct3D (runs faster than the one that was listed here before). Instructions and downloads: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2312019
ioQuake3 (Quake 3 Arena). Requires game files. Instructions and download: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=42338198&postcount=1
Coolplayer. Skinnable music player, now with FLAC support. Extra themes are available for download from the site. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2318000
Synergy. Use one mouse and keyboard across PCs (including Linux & Mac). Now with 1.4.12 beta. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37609926
Snes9x. Super Nintendo console emulator. Some features are disabled but games appear to work fine. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2339228
FileZilla. Graphical file transfer program. No support for encrypted protocols in this build, only plain FTP. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2340616
WinMerge. Diff(erencing) and merging tool. All features should work but this version is a little old; a newer one may come later. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2340560
QuiteRSS. Stand-alone RSS feed reader with embedded browser. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2355277
Single Player Game Transmitter client. Streams 3D apps with good quality and responsiveness. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2355051
QupZilla. WebKit-based web browser. Uses interpreted JS. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2353048
Lua. Scripting language, most commonly used for games. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43808775
Halite. Nice BitTorrent client somewhat like uTorrent. Currently only includes English support. Magnet links may not work...? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2372058
ffmpeg. Video player. May be very slow with some codecs. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2368706
Fossil SCM. Distributed version control software (sort of like Git or Mercurial). http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2400099
Subversion. New update 1.8.5 with OpenSSL 1.0.1e. Widely used version control software. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2494931
AutoHotKey. Keyboard macros and powerful automation of Windows functions. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2408417
Paint.NET. Image manipulation program. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2411497
Alien vs. Predator Classic. First-person games based on the movies. Requires game files. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2414431
MicroEMACS. Small, EMACS-like text/code editor. Thanks to @acrossland! Binary available at Download link. https://bitbucket.org/adamcrossland/microemacs-for-surfacert
Nethack. The venerable and classic "roguelike" RPG. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2576998
TeXStudio. IDE for LaTeX documents. Requires a compiler such as MiKteX (linked above). http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2493219
pForth. Interpreter for the Forth programming language. Docs and samples available as well as binary: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=51795065
Python 2.7.3. Programming/scripting language and runtime. New: Experimental FFI should make much more code work. (Thanks @e13000!) Runtime: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50687352&postcount=921 LibFFI: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByNfJPIJQw6hRnlPMHM3b1FFUFU/edit?usp=sharing
Apps which run un-modified
Keepass Portable. Password storage wallet. http://downloads.sourceforge.net/keepass/KeePass-2.20.1.zip
Mouse Without Borders. Use one mouse across PCs (like Synergy). Install instructions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36428923&postcount=258
Transmission.Net Remote. Remote control of a Transmission BitTorrent service. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2101891
ShareX. Screen capture/upload utility. https://mega.co.nz/#!VxYVDZAS!KyyL8gGvjrcZWjEIOp3j_WnZqDsSucB_b3YcS0f-TbE
IceChat. IRC client. http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3221171&stc=1&d=1426912901
IKVM. Java, implemented in .NET (can run many pure-Java apps). http://www.ikvm.net/
Fiddler 4. Advanced HTTP proxy. To install, unpack the .EXE as an archive using 7-Zip. To run correctly, copy the file Microsoft.JScript.dll from \Windows\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v4.0.30319\ on a Win8 machine (older Windows versions may also work) to the Fiddler "install" (unpacked) directory. http://www.fiddler2.com/fiddler2/version.asp
Boxie. Multipurpose utility (image conversion, file management stuff, etc.). http://boxie.codeplex.com/ (Info: http://boxie.codeplex.com/documentation)
DtPad. Text/code editor. You can use the installer; there will be a warning but it's reported to work after clickthrough. http://dtpad.codeplex.com/
BoxWorld. Sokoban game. Extract the binaries from the installer using 7-Zip. http://boxworld.codeplex.com/
AstroGrep. Regular expression file/text search tool (basically, Unix grep). http://sourceforge.net/projects/astrogrep/
Notepad Enhanced. Simple text editor with tabbed interface. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=37370164&postcount=374 for info.
QuickSharp. C# IDE. Info at the same link as Notepad Enhanced, and also here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=37385385&postcount=378
Remote TrackPad Server. Allows controlling a PC using a Windows Phone as a server. Use the.NET 4.5 server build: http://www.luecho.com/trackpad/
ImageGlass. Image viewing program. Runs fine but crashes on exit. https://github.com/d2phap/ImageGlass (Thanks igator)
Be.HexEditor. Simple editor capable of opening any file, including binary, and editing in text or hexadecimal. Requires changing a config file. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=39152904&postcount=611
WindowsAppBoss. Simplifies managing sideloaded or provisioned (i.e. not-from-the-store) Metro apps. http://windowsappboss.codeplex.com/
Perl 5.12.4. Popular scripting language, especially for working with strings. Official Microsoft-signed binary will run even without jailbreak: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2331691
Greenshot. Advanced screenshot tool. Plugins may not work. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48682150&postcount=905
Native-ported libraries (mostly for developers/porters)
LZMA (compression): DLL
SDL (Simple Directmedia Layer). Used for a lot of game software, among other things. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36620852&postcount=117
OpenSSL (cryptography toolkit). Used by a great many open source programs that do any crypto. May have some problems with elliptical curve crypto. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2113595
Zlib (compression). Used by many open-source libraries that need to handle compressed data. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2113684
libFLAC_static, libmad, libogg_static, libpng, libtheora_static, libvorbis_static, libvorbisfile_static (media codecs). Support popular audio and video compressed formats. https://www.dropbox.com/s/rhxn7pwygfh6pka/ARMlibs.zip
Boost. Commonly used C++ library/framework. Please do not download unless you need it, as doing so will use considerable bandwidth from the host. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=38313568&postcount=524
wxWidgets. Common C++ library/framework for cross-platform graphical apps. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/39887/wxMSW-2.8.12-libs.7z
MFC (Microsoft Foundation Classes). C++ library/framework used by many older Windows programs. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40802296&postcount=59
GlDirect (OpenGL-DirectX wrapper). Adds support for OpenGL code by wrapping Direct3D 9. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=42271138&postcount=4
QT 4.8.4 (C++ utility and graphics framework). Used by many cross-platform open-source programs. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2339014
Apps removed for known issues:
MonoTorrent Client. BitTorrent client, both GUI and CLI. Currently experimental/alpha quality, many people have reported that they can't download anything. GUI, CLI, More info.
Please recompile the Unikey (app helps typing Vietnamese on x86) since rt have no vietnamese keyboard. This is the app that everyone in Viet Nam is waiting to make the rt perfect for daily use. Thank you so much.
Here is its website: 'unikey.org'
http://ipmsg.org/index.html.en
a open source lan chat tool.I was able to compile it but it cant send message.you can have a try on it.
Netham45 posted a link to someones compiled notepad++ V6.2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36516405&postcount=337
Thanks all. I'm looking at compiling UniKey (although it will be an old version, as the development 4.x branch is not yet open sourced). I'll also look into ipmsg. Appreciate the links.
EDIT: Ugh. The GPL for UniKey is a lie (ironic, since the author *****es about people violating the GPL with his code... yet doesn't comply with it himself). It relies on a library which is only distributed in binary form, RtfIO. I can probably build the 3.1 version (which is from 2006, and should be pre-RtfIO) since, aside from the occasional piece of truly awful code practices (lots of implicit types and improper use of variable scoping) that may have been permitted by older compilers but don't work in VS 2012, there's nothing difficult about building the app. I could even build 3.6 if the author would release an ARM version of RtfIO... I couldn't legally distribute it under the GPL at that point, but I could build it.
Unless you want me to give 3.1 a shot, you're going to have to ask the author for either the source to RtfIO or an ARM-compiled .LIB file of it.
Can you give a go at a TransmissionBT console as well?
http://www.transmissionbt.com/resources/
I've been looking into a bittorrent client already.
Transmission, unfortunately, is one of those many open source apps which technically compile on Windows, but only within a GNU-like environment, and in particular it expects to use GCC. While it may be possible to use MinGW to cross-compile for Windows on ARM, that's not the native behavior and will take more investigation.
EDIT: Hadouken, at hdkn.net, appears to be a pure .NET app. It's distributed as a .MSI which doesn't work on ARM< but it may be possible to build it for .NET 4.5 architecture-independent, in which case it should run on Windows RT. It's a BitTorrent client the runs as a Windows service rather than a normal desktop apps, and uses a web interface to control it. Should work fine, though...
GoodDayToDie said:
I've been looking into a bittorrent client already.
Transmission, unfortunately, is one of those many open source apps which technically compile on Windows, but only within a GNU-like environment, and in particular it expects to use GCC. While it may be possible to use MinGW to cross-compile for Windows on ARM, that's not the native behavior and will take more investigation.
EDIT: Hadouken, at hdkn.net, appears to be a pure .NET app. It's distributed as a .MSI which doesn't work on ARM< but it may be possible to build it for .NET 4.5 architecture-independent, in which case it should run on Windows RT. It's a BitTorrent client the runs as a Windows service rather than a normal desktop apps, and uses a web interface to control it. Should work fine, though...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
http://sourceforge.net/projects/wintransmission/ seems to be a c# port of transmission. less dev than the QT version, but more suitable for us.
I will be taking a look at the effort involved in getting a dev environment working (either monodev or sharpdevelop)
@windowsrtc: I got IPMsg working, it's fine send and receive. I had to remove some platform-specific debug code (I could have written the ARM portion, but was feeling lazy) but it shouldn't matter except that crash logs won't be generated.
Binaries, including installer, are in the smaller ZIP file. Modified source code used to build them is in the _SRC archive.
Also, any pure .net 4.5 app will work on the RT too.
I've gotten Mouse without Borders, a MS-made synergy alternative running great on the Surface.
Check this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36428923&postcount=258
OK, got a build of Unikey 3.1 here. Better than nothing, right?
VLC - do you think Surface RT has all the OS components required for VLC? I would like mkv support on Surface RT and VLC would be a good step in that direction.
ok... as bad as this will sound... java... don't judge me!
@programabd: I think VLC uses some assembly in its decoders, which will make porting difficult. I know there are ARM build already, do it's possible, but there are lots of thing which build on Windows, and build for ARM, but don't build for WIndows on ARM.
@apatcas: Already looked into it. Getting Java support would give a huge number of apps ready-to-go, and however distasteful I find the language or however bad the browser plugin security is, it would be good to have. Unfortunately, the only ARM-ready versions of Java currently available are for Linux, not Windows. It's possible to port, of course, but it'll be a lot of work.
programabd said:
VLC - do you think Surface RT has all the OS components required for VLC? I would like mkv support on Surface RT and VLC would be a good step in that direction.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Haven't they started making their own port through the kickstarter campaign, they're making a windows 8 metro style app first then stating on an Rt version, probably not see it this side of Christmas though
Edit: here's the link:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1061646928/vlc-for-the-new-windows-8-user-experience-metro
martyj999 said:
Haven't they started making their own port through the kickstarter campaign, they're making a windows 8 metro style app first then stating on an Rt version, probably not see it this side of Christmas though
Edit: here's the link:
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1061646928/vlc-for-the-new-windows-8-user-experience-metro
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks - I wish they would just bypass the handcuffed Metro environment, and just go for a full port to desktop ARM, but that's pretty unlikely
GoodDayToDie said:
Thanks all. I'm looking at compiling UniKey (although it will be an old version, as the development 4.x branch is not yet open sourced). I'll also look into ipmsg. Appreciate the links.
EDIT: Ugh. The GPL for UniKey is a lie (ironic, since the author *****es about people violating the GPL with his code... yet doesn't comply with it himself). It relies on a library which is only distributed in binary form, RtfIO. I can probably build the 3.1 version (which is from 2006, and should be pre-RtfIO) since, aside from the occasional piece of truly awful code practices (lots of implicit types and improper use of variable scoping) that may have been permitted by older compilers but don't work in VS 2012, there's nothing difficult about building the app. I could even build 3.6 if the author would release an ARM version of RtfIO... I couldn't legally distribute it under the GPL at that point, but I could build it.
Unless you want me to give 3.1 a shot, you're going to have to ask the author for either the source to RtfIO or an ARM-compiled .LIB file of it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
he leaves no contact information so I think there is no way to ask him for anything. In that case, if only you could help us building the 3.6 version which could be better with the open source on his website, I think 3.1 is enough for use. We, vietnamese, really appreciate your effort. Thank you.
apatcas said:
ok... as bad as this will sound... java... don't judge me!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This would be amazing as hard as it might be to get a port. Minecraft, people
GoodDayToDie said:
@windowsrtc: I got IPMsg working, it's fine send and receive. I had to remove some platform-specific debug code (I could have written the ARM portion, but was feeling lazy) but it shouldn't matter except that crash logs won't be generated.
Binaries, including installer, are in the smaller ZIP file. Modified source code used to build them is in the _SRC archive.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
thank you
finally I found I didnt use it in the right way.I must select a "user"before sending a message and it works.