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Hello i just brought an HTC Desire S.
Android Version: 2.3.5
and Sence : 3.0
I have read what is root and how to s-off.
But i have a question, if i root it, then i will be able to receive the official updates or not?
And what is the best method of rooting DS with the current version?
kleftisx said:
Hello i just brought an HTC Desire S.
Android Version: 2.3.5
and Sence : 3.0
I have read what is root and how to s-off.
But i have a question, if i root it, then i will be able to receive the official updates or not?
And what is the best method of rooting DS with the current version?
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You may still be able to receive updates but I wouldn't recommend it.
I believe that you're either S-ON, no-root and apply updates or S-OFF, root and NO updates!
Ok. But what is the best method to root my ds??
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Gingerbreak or superoneclick. I prefer Gingerbreak because I found the whole process much quicker
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Im not sure if you are able to use the revolutionary tool to s-off your device, because it currently only supports HTC Desire S (saga) 0.98.0000 and 0.98.0002 hboot versions, but not the 2.00..... (coming with android 2.3.5)
you might wanna check htcdev.com for the unroot
I searched for those rooting methods and i find that superoneclick is not stable.
and for gingerbreak i didn't find any guide.
Is there any how to root Desire S?
And also i have S-ON and HBOOT-2.00 0002
Search and you will find....
kleftisx said:
I searched for those rooting methods and i find that superoneclick is not stable.
and for gingerbreak i didn't find any guide.
Is there any how to root Desire S?
And also i have S-ON and HBOOT-2.00 0002
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You need to go to the htcdev site and perform the hboot lock procedure. Search and you will find the post on how to do it.
htcdev method
Hi, sorry to say i have tryied this method from htcdev yesterday and it only unlocks fast boot so you are able to flash a rom via recovery, BUT your phone and hboot will stay in S-ON so you are not able to overvrite hboot version and Radio which is sometimes necessary to support the custom ROM. I doubt if there is a real method to make hboot 2.00.0002 really s-off..
kleftisx said:
I searched for those rooting methods and i find that superoneclick is not stable.
and for gingerbreak i didn't find any guide.
Is there any how to root Desire S?
And also i have S-ON and HBOOT-2.00 0002
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moloto said:
Hi, sorry to say i have tryied this method from htcdev yesterday and it only unlocks fast boot so you are able to flash a rom via recovery, BUT your phone and hboot will stay in S-ON so you are not able to overvrite hboot version and Radio which is sometimes necessary to support the custom ROM. I doubt if there is a real method to make hboot 2.00.0002 really s-off..
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You asked about rooting your phone. By unlocking the bootloader you can now flash a custom recovery which will allow you to flash the SU binary and the Superuser app which will give you root. That is what you asked and that is all ou need to do. Gaining S-Off is just another way to get a custom recovery and flash the SU binary and Superuser app.
Locked radio
tpbklake said:
You asked about rooting your phone. By unlocking the bootloader you can now flash a custom recovery which will allow you to flash the SU binary and the Superuser app which will give you root. That is what you asked and that is all ou need to do. Gaining S-Off is just another way to get a custom recovery and flash the SU binary and Superuser app.
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With all the respect, yes you can install custom rom with open hboot and you can gain a root(su) user rights, BUT if your rom is not compatible with your RADIO the you are doomed, your wifi, sd card, and another drivers may not be working, and in this case you are unable to overwrite the radio as the S(ecurity)-ON is locking right this. That was exactly my case, i installed S-ON original hboot from RUU 2.00.0002 and the newest Desire S ROM, but my wifi was not working and my sd was not accesible from pc, i went into recovery a tryied to flash RADIO image, but it was not possible, everytime the recovery was parsing the image and then just went back to bootloader main screen like nothing happend, this is because the RADIO is locked, i have tryied more imeges to be sure the first one was not corrupted, everytime the same result..
Still didn't find a way to root my DS.
Can anyone provide me a link to do this?
Go to http://www.htcdev.com press unlock bootloader and follow the instructions to s-off your device. (instead of all the files there, you will need only this http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=727371&d=1316684239. Desire S is not at the supported devices, but it works great.)
It says "unlocking the bootloader will delete all personal data from your device including applications, text messages and personalized settings" which means that it will reset all your phone settings I suppose. If anyone has tried this please inform us what we loose and if there is a better way for avoiding that.
@kleftisx p.m.to me in Greek if you didn't understand something!
EDIT: Misread post
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Root Desire S
i am gonna try it.
thanks
Hello. I know about emmc chip problems on this model, but is have done many things what can damage it but I have no probelms. All ota updates was without problems and no needed a resets or nothing. So my question is - if I root it now I have possibility to brick it? I don't want to isntal custom rom only root it. And other question- I'm on latest hboot, I need to do first go htcdev and the revolutionary? ?
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Hi,
if you follow the guides in this forum, you will be able to root your device without any problem or any risk to brick (I think the possibility to brick the phone is very low).
You have to S-OFF first, using Revolutionary (suggested) or htcdev. The problem with revolutionary is that if you have the latest hboot, you cannot s-off at the moment.
fbcyborg said:
Hi,
if you follow the guides in this forum, you will be able to root your device without any problem or any risk to brick (I think the possibility to brick the phone is very low).
You have to S-OFF first, using Revolutionary (suggested) or htcdev. The problem with revolutionary is that if you have the latest hboot, you cannot s-off at the moment.
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I know, I reader that, but in htcdev I can unlock my bootloader
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Below is the details of my phone, I am not able to S-Off the phone, require help. I tried couple of things however gives me error.
Phone Details.
Saga Pvt ship S-on RL
Hboot – 2.00.0002
Radio – 3822.10.08.04_M
eMMC-boot
Which guide did u follow and which part did u encounter an error?
Have u used the search bar?
Be specific. Show us ur error.
Sent from my Desire S
unlock your phone with htcdev and root it with superoneclick
worked perfect for me :good:
johnyomair said:
unlock your phone with htcdev and root it with superoneclick
worked perfect for me :good:
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Using htcdev keeps the phone S-ON. You'll still be able to run custom roms, but can't flash a new radio.
rain987 said:
Which guide did u follow and which part did u encounter an error?
Have u used the search bar?
Be specific. Show us ur error.
Sent from my Desire S
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I refered to a you tube video " How to S-off htc desire s" the first video that shows up. My phone is already rooted using the hdc dev kit, however when I am trying to do s-off the software gives just a message "Error". It also fails at signature.
do let me know what more information can I provide.
If you have a guide that I can try and share the results with you do send me that as well. I am new to rooting the phone, so sorry for not providing any info that is required.
You either htcdev unlock or you s-off
You'll now need to relock your phone to undo the htcdev and then downgrade you phone in order to properly s-off using revolutionary.
There are various downgrade guides in the index, see link on my signature
Sywepd form my DsereiS
ben_pyett said:
You either htcdev unlock or you s-off
You'll now need to relock your phone to undo the htcdev and then downgrade you phone in order to properly s-off using revolutionary.
There are various downgrade guides in the index, see link on my signature
Sywepd form my DsereiS
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Thanks will try the suggestion and let you know the results
505dv said:
Using htcdev keeps the phone S-ON. You'll still be able to run custom roms, but can't flash a new radio.
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My HTC is S-OFF because i rooted it with SuperOneClick afterwards
johnyomair said:
My HTC is S-OFF because i rooted it with SuperOneClick afterwards
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No, it's S-ON, but writable on /system partition due to HTCDev unlock. It only means that you don't know the difference between S-OFF, rooting and HTCDev unlock - and misleading others.
Jack_R1 said:
It only means that you don't know the difference between S-OFF, rooting and HTCDev unlock - and misleading others.
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Then please tell me why my Bootloader says:
*unlocked*
SAGA PUT SHIP S-OFF RL
S-OFF ... Security off
Rooting ... Grant root for the device, like su on linux
HTCDev unlock ... unlocks the bootloader
But its ok I just tried to help...
Then you can try to avoid confusion providing more detailed info, like:
"I have used XTC Clip to gain S-OFF, then used htcdev.com, without any particular reason, then got rooted by SuperOneClick"
Your previous post can mislead some non advanced users that SOC can provide S-OFF, without using additional tools.
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Ok..
I unlocked my HTC Desire S following the instructions on HTCDev.com. Afterwards I rooted the Phone,installed Busybox and installed ClockworkMod Recovery using the SuperOneClick tool for Windows 7.
And now I am able to flash Rom and Radios.
Nope to upgrade your Radio you have to be S-OFF
Maybe it was shipped with S-OFF because I had a brandig first.
I doubt that it was shipped S-OFF and even if, why would you unlock it with HTCdev ?
johnyomair said:
Ok..
I unlocked my HTC Desire S following the instructions on HTCDev.com. Afterwards I rooted the Phone,installed Busybox and installed ClockworkMod Recovery using the SuperOneClick tool for Windows 7.
And now I am able to flash Rom and Radios.
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And you can flash radios only because you had a phone which already was S-OFF, either during manufacturing or by XTC-Clip, and you just didn't understand it and uselessly unlocked it while you could have done whatever you wanted with it. And S-OFF is the only reason you can flash radios, and HTCDev unlock didn't actually add anything and didn't allow you anything - just as it won't allow any non-S-OFF user to flash radios, and won't turn S-ON to S-OFF. But what do I know, I was just passing here.
c.m.b said:
I doubt that it was shipped S-OFF and even if, why would you unlock it with HTCdev ?
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It is unlikely, but certainly possible. In the early days of Desire S development (back when we had to use the XTC-Clip hardware to obtain S-Off) there were some people who got their devices brand new already S-Off.
ok, back to the topic:
the simpliest way to gain s-off without xtc-clip is to downgrade the bootloader to HBOOT 0.98, and gain S-OFF with Revolutionary. After you did this you can run the latest ruu, which doesn't influence wether your s-off or s-on. Finally, you've got a device with hboot 2.02 and s-off.
After using revolutionary you are already S-OFF!
If you want to upgrade your HBOOT don't run a RUU AFAIK it could brick your device ... use this tutorial
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1679338
Do you know the differences between Radio HBOOT S-OFF root etc?
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Jack_R1 said:
....you had a phone which already was S-OFF, either during manufacturing or by XTC-Clip, and you just didn't understand it and uselessly unlocked it
................and HTCDev unlock didn't actually add anything and didn't allow you anything...........
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I have to disagree @Jack_R1 the unlock via htcdev wasn't completely useless as it managed to void his HTC warranty! :laugh: logging that fact with HTC in the process!
we can only try...........:silly:
Hello everyone,
I recently purchased an AT&T HTC One X and I want to unlock bootloader and eventually root the phone. After some reading and following a few tutorials I am stuck. I just want to clear a few things up. First i followed htc AIO toolkit tutorial to unlock my htc through htcdev but error came up. I read further and saw people mentioning that I need to have s-off to unlock bootloader. I am just a little confused and would appreciate if someone would guide me in the right direction as to what steps to take to accomplish me unlocking bootloader and rooting my phone and maybe in the future to flash some custom roms.
Locked
evita s-on
I do apologize if this has been asked before
You do not need s-off to unlock bootloader. Get supercid then unlock bootloader, then gain root, then optional but recommend gain s-off. For us to help you need to give the current firmware of your device. To do this, restart your phone and hold down the volume down button until you are in the bootloader screen. Give the info you see at the very top.
My phone info is as follows
Locked
Evita PVT SHIP S-ON RL
Hboot-2.14.0000
I'm assuming you have 3.18 with that stock hboot but double check in settings to be safe. If you are 3.18 just follow the steps on how to gain supercid/unlock/root for 3.18. You can go to the FAQs stickied here for getting you to the right direction.
yes my Software number is
3.18.502.6710RD
for 3.18 I first need to get supercid/unlock before I can root? Are those the steps I need to take?
Yes in that order
To be more specific, you need to use the 3.18 root method to get temp root which also gets you SuperCID. Just any SuperCID method won't work. Click the Everything Evita link in my signature, within that resource thread navigate to the root section and click on the 3.18 root method link and follow those instructions. Once that's done you can go to htcdev and unlock your bootloader, then install TWRP 2.6 recovery.
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hello everyone, android user and my device s-off in the first year I want to do but how to do it without the support of htcdev? Is there a program available? When I unlock my device also has root? Am I going to root sturdy at the same time to s-off? I just want to get rid of device applications that official. 5 4.2.2 installed on my device, this device can sense it possible to root for?
Thank you.
I think you're confused as to what s-off is and unlocking is, they're two entirely different things. You don't use htcdev to get s-off. You use htcdev to unlock your bootloader, and no you cannot unlock your bootloader without htcdev. Unlocking your bootloader doesn't give you root, after unlocking the bootloader you must install a custom recovery and then you can gain root. After gaining root you can get SuperCID and then you can get s-off. If all you want to do is remove some system apps, then you'll just need to unlock the bootloader, install a custom recovery, and install root.
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You don't need s-off to delete bloatware (pre-installed apps). Just use HTCDev.com to unlock the bootloader. Then install custom recovery, then either flash SU or a rooted ROM to get root.
The process to s-off is simple (see Facepalm method in the Original Android Development subforum). However, it requires SuperCID. Since the CID is protected on Sense 5, you will not be able to SuperCID (and therefore S-off).
But as already mentioned, you don't need S-off to root and delete bloatware.
I'm at a loss and somewhat confused.
I read in one place that I need to s-off to update my radio, but in order to do that I need super-cid.
so I'm trying to change my cid from ROGER001 to 11111111.
Now I'm reading that I can s-off without super-cid? All I'd like to do is update my radio and kernel so my phone stops losing signal and stops rebooting. I should also mention that I already went to htcdev and unlocked my bootloader.
What I see in fastboot:
TAMPERED
UNLOCKED
Evita PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-2.14.0000
RADIO-0.23a.32.09.29
OpenDSP-v31.1.0.45.0815
eMMC-boot
Viper Xl 4.2.0(amazing Rom btw)
HTC Sense 5.0
I have tried the script, it failed, manual method, that failed.
manual method gets me this result after I fastboot oem readcid(ok), fastboot oem writecid 11111111
... INFO elite_init_sd, SD card already power on
INFOsdhw_7xxx_open: id=0
INFO[SD_HW_ERR] SD: No device attached
INFO902910 902E20
FAILED (status read failed (No such file or directory))
I'd like to resolve this as my signal stops, and device reboots randomly.
telaphoneguy said:
Now I'm reading that I can s-off without super-cid?
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Nope, wherever you read that, its completely incorrect.
It says right in the s-off method instructions, in big bold print that SuperCID is required: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155071
If you are having trouble with s-off, the other solution to random reboots on Sense 5 is to install the Beastmode kernel.
Release the hounds!!
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KungFuCracka94 said:
Release the hounds!!
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I actually started to type "as mentioned in a bazillion different places" after my Beastmode statement in the previous reply. But I decided to be nice!
I checked out this link again: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1952038
i still get an error, it fails on step 6 with message [-] Failed.
I'll give beastmode another shot, i've tried it before, no success.
telaphoneguy said:
I checked out this link again: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1952038
i still get an error, it fails on step 6 with message [-] Failed.
I'll give beastmode another shot, i've tried it before, no success.
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The x-factor exploit fails since its looking for the AT&T CID. For other CIDs, you need to edit it manually using the hex edit method.
If you have trouble with installing Beastmode, I think some folks have had to install Beastmode 2.0 before installing 3.5.
After many attempts, boot loops beastmode reloaded 3.5 finally took.
So now I need to ask if I need s-off, i've done everything except upgrade my radio.
I'll only update my radio if the antenna drops keeps dropping out.
Well, radio went out, no reboots yet, I'll see what else I can try.
no i want to only rooting device, this video help me ? cause title for htc one."but my device hox"
www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJYAS2KN17Y&list=WL2E6DAD3D0702FB02
No it won't work, it's not for this phone. Only ever use guides specifically for this device or you could brick it. As I've already told you, you absolutely cannot root this device without unlocking the bootloader through htcdev first. I'm not sure why you're still searching for ways to do it, they do not exist. There's no point in coming here for advice if you don't even listen to the answers you're given.
Sent from my Evita
timmaaa said:
I think you're confused as to what s-off is and unlocking is, they're two entirely different things. You don't use htcdev to get s-off. You use htcdev to unlock your bootloader, and no you cannot unlock your bootloader without htcdev. Unlocking your bootloader doesn't give you root, after unlocking the bootloader you must install a custom recovery and then you can gain root. After gaining root you can get SuperCID and then you can get s-off. If all you want to do is remove some system apps, then you'll just need to unlock the bootloader, install a custom recovery, and install root.
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Tnx so much if i think rooting need to s-off but you say "thats two entirely different" .. then why people use to s-off? for change rom ? and i find this video for root its working for my hox ? or only working htc one.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJYAS2KN17Y&list=WL2E6DAD3D0702FB02 again tnx. sorry for english
timmaaa said:
No it won't work, it's not for this phone. Only ever use guides specifically for this device or you could brick it. As I've already told you, you absolutely cannot root this device without unlocking the bootloader through htcdev first. I'm not sure why you're still searching for ways to do it, they do not exist. There's no point in coming here for advice if you don't even listen to the answers you're given.
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some people say me "when using htcdev for unlock your warranty get void" thats true ?
Absolutely nowhere within this forum does it say you need s-off to root, because you don't. I've already told you that. I can't view that video for some reason but unless it specifically says it's for the Evita don't use it. All you need is in the Everything Evita link in my signature, do not get information anywhere else, XDA is the only place you need to look.
As I've already told you, if you want to root you need to unlock your bootloader and install a custom recovery first. In the link I mentioned there are guides on how to do this, you need to follow the guide that pertains to your current firmware version.
Sent from my Evita
timmaaa said:
No it won't work, it's not for this phone. Only ever use guides specifically for this device or you could brick it. As I've already told you, you absolutely cannot root this device without unlocking the bootloader through htcdev first. I'm not sure why you're still searching for ways to do it, they do not exist. There's no point in coming here for advice if you don't even listen to the answers you're given.
Sent from my Evita
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timmaaa said:
Absolutely nowhere within this forum does it say you need s-off to root, because you don't. I've already told you that. I can't view that video for some reason but unless it specifically says it's for the Evita don't use it. All you need is in the Everything Evita link in my signature, do not get information anywhere else, XDA is the only place you need to look.
As I've already told you, if you want to root you need to unlock your bootloader and install a custom recovery first. In the link I mentioned there are guides on how to do this, you need to follow the guide that pertains to your current firmware version.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1732980 i searched someone info for s-off "s-off, hboot and radio flash only happens if I need to make" sorry i ask much question cause im noob; then give me root link for sense 4.3.3 and hasoon2000's working for me ?
What are your bootloader details?
Sent from my Evita
Cid: htc_m27; Softwarenumber:4.18.401.2 , radio: .51204.167.31 hboot: 1.72.0000 s-on RL htc one x
You're not even in the right forum, this is the HTC One XL / at&t One X (Evita) forum. You need to ask in the HTC One X forum. They're different phones.
Sent from my Evita