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[Q] new phone, havn't done anything yet. root now? or wait untill update

There is alot of confusing info here. locked, unlocked rooted, relocked... I have a new phone, just activated it, want to unlock and root. I havn't done anything yet.
1) should I wait until official update, download update, then unlock, root?
2)root, unlock, flash ruu?
3) other
Thanks for any help

dca1970 said:
There is alot of confusing info here. locked, unlocked rooted, relocked... I have a new phone, just activated it, want to unlock and root. I havn't done anything yet.
1) should I wait until official update, download update, then unlock, root?
2)root, unlock, flash ruu?
3) other
Thanks for any help
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the latest leaked update 1.85 isn't rootable so if you want to unlock your bootloader and get in on that fun you should go ahead and do it rather than wait.

gunnyman said:
the latest leaked update 1.85 isn't rootable so if you want to unlock your bootloader and get in on that fun you should go ahead and do it rather than wait.
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Thanks!

gunnyman said:
the latest leaked update 1.85 isn't rootable so if you want to unlock your bootloader and get in on that fun you should go ahead and do it rather than wait.
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i'm still on 1.73 and looking to root only for the purpose of being able to install root-only apps, and not for the purpose of flashing custom roms. if you say that 1.85 isn't rootable, does this mean i should root before getting the update (whenever it becomes available from Rogers)? and if i do take this route, will the update unroot my phone?

dreamybear said:
i'm still on 1.73 and looking to root only for the purpose of being able to install root-only apps, and not for the purpose of flashing custom roms. if you say that 1.85 isn't rootable, does this mean i should root before getting the update (whenever it becomes available from Rogers)? and if i do take this route, will the update unroot my phone?
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yes any OTA update will unroot your phone.

dca1970 said:
There is alot of confusing info here. locked, unlocked rooted, relocked... I have a new phone, just activated it, want to unlock and root. I havn't done anything yet.
1) should I wait until official update, download update, then unlock, root?
2)root, unlock, flash ruu?
3) other
Thanks for any help
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1.85 is possible to root and Bootloader unlock. First root your phone ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1644167)
Then use this tool ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1672284 ). That will unlock your bootloader and install SuperCID (that's why we do it, for SCID).
After unlocked, you must relock your bootloader, flash 1.85 RUU, then unlock again, flash cwm, and flash Superuser ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1676101 ).
Good luck. It can happen, it's just a long process.

ce12373 said:
1.85 is possible to root and Bootloader unlock. First root your phone ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1644167)
Then use this tool ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1672284 ). That will unlock your bootloader and install SuperCID (that's why we do it, for SCID).
After unlocked, you must relock your bootloader, flash 1.85 RUU, then unlock again, flash cwm, and flash Superuser ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1676101 ).
Good luck. It can happen, it's just a long process.
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That method is incompatible with 1.85. You will receive an error when trying to root it with that.

I'm sorry, i really am, but I'm still confused - flashing from 1.73

I've read and googled everything i can and I'm honestly still very confused and need the communities help!
Just got myself the one x with ROGERS, and yes I'm on stock rom 1.73
I'd like to flash a custom ROM...simple enough but the process seems confusing.
Here's what i understand i should do so far..
1. since I'm already locked (bootloader locked) i can just flash to 1.85 RUU..
2. Once i somehow find a way to do that...i need to unlock the bootloader from htcdev.com
Install CWM..by one click or maybe the adb method..
3. Or was it root first and then CWM...??
4. Install ROM..if you can figure out the instructions on that..
I need some serious help..the most detailed instructions possible...
Cheers and i appreciate all the help i can get.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1676869
this link should give you all of the instructions.

rsnt said:
I've read and googled everything i can and I'm honestly still very confused and need the communities help!
Just got myself the one x with ROGERS, and yes I'm on stock rom 1.73
I'd like to flash a custom ROM...simple enough but the process seems confusing.
Here's what i understand i should do so far..
1. since I'm already locked (bootloader locked) i can just flash to 1.85 RUU..
2. Once i somehow find a way to do that...i need to unlock the bootloader from htcdev.com
Install CWM..by one click or maybe the adb method..
3. Or was it root first and then CWM...??
4. Install ROM..if you can figure out the instructions on that..
I need some serious help..the most detailed instructions possible...
Cheers and i appreciate all the help i can get.
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Skip the first step. 1.85 is unrootable at the moment so if you try and flash using the 1.85 RUU you're screwing yourself over for the latter steps. Use the One-Click Root (search for tut) and root your device on the 1.73. Then you want to do the rest.

I belive you are mistaken. I from 1.73 root and bootloader unlock can be achieved. Then fastboot oem lock through command line, flash 1.85, unlock the bootloader again, and flash cwm. then you can flash superuser and you have root on 1.85. Right now if you want to flash custom roms 1.85 base is the only option. There are threads in the development section with tools and instructions on how to do this process.
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA

You cannot unlock your bootloader though without your phone being rooted, and if you update to 1.85 you're stripping away your root privileges. Maybe I'm mistaken, but that's how I've understood it.

This is exactly what I'm trying to avoid... all this confusion...

rsnt said:
This is exactly what I'm trying to avoid... all this confusion...
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You can't directly unlock or root 1.85 yet, the only way you can is if you already have a super-CID from before you upgraded. Follow the tutorial on how to do that, then unlock your bootloader using HTC Dev, then flash your recovery with ClockWorkMod, then install SuperUser using ClockWordMod. That's the only thing that will work to get you what you want on 1.85

TrueLandon said:
You can't directly unlock or root 1.85 yet, the only way you can is if you already have a super-CID from before you upgraded. Follow the tutorial on how to do that, then unlock your bootloader using HTC Dev, then flash your recovery with ClockWorkMod, then install SuperUser using ClockWordMod. That's the only thing that will work to get you what you want on 1.85
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That's exactly what I said. It is a roundabout way to root, but it is the only way. And it works.

He has a Rodgers phone so he can unlock the bootloader without needing to mod anything but i think he still needs to change the cid so that he can flash 1.85

[Q] Help please. Stuck: HTC One X, rooted, but not unlocked bootloader

Hello.
Surfed the forum for an entire week regarding rooting and unlocking the bootloader.
Its HTC One X, 4.0.3 ICS, on AT&T
Managed to root it using OneXRootOneClick method (onexroot.com)
Tried to backup through the fastboot method before flashing the ROM... and when I went to the fastboot screen, and clicked on Recovery, instead of giving options of recovering Vs backing up etc., the phone immediately just wiped everything and started clean slate.
Read in detail more, and realized there is no unlockable bootloader from htcdev.com (thanks effing AT&T!!). The only current method is the one posted recently on xda (by using the Hex editor and changing your ROMs code to think it's Rogers').
So now when i restart into fastboot, I see at the top the phone is 1-tampered 2-locked 3- S-ON .. (i restored all software and data and settings, and backed up everything on titanium afterward).
So... Questions
1. Beside achieving root access and SuperSU, what else can i do with a rooted android if I cant unlock it in order to flash it?
2. How do i get ClockWorkMod on so i can backup my ROM onto my SD? And is it doable if I cant unlock my bootloader?
3. What options are there from here? (a rooted but unlocked device without CWM) And do i need superCID , busybox etc?

There are one clicks for root, supervis/unlock, and cwm recovery, I just did it today easy. Linked the tools, was very easy.
Bootloader/supercid tool.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1672284
One click cwm recovery.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671873
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium

but..
thx for the reply
will it matter with this unlock method what software i got? i noticed people on the replies of the first link that they're 1.85 , im 1.73
secondly... any mac version of the one click unlock ?

I was 1.73 it makes it easy since you need to be rooted.
I don't think there is a Mac version, you could also follow the non one clicks, or just use the commands from the one clicks, just rename the .bat file to .txt open it and copy and paste each command in adb.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium

baddoor said:
will it matter with this unlock method what software i got? i noticed people on the replies of the first link that they're 1.85 , im 1.73
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The unlock method (either one click, or the hex edit) can only be performed on 1.73 and 1.82, since it requires root. If you RUU to 1.85, you will lose root, and no root method exists on 1.85 unless your bootloader is unlocked, so you are stuck without root. After you get SuperCID, you can update to 1.85, if you like, then install root using CWM.
baddoor said:
How do i get ClockWorkMod on so i can backup my ROM onto my SD? And is it doable if I cant unlock my bootloader?
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CWM can only be installed with an unlocked bootloader. If your intent is just to backup the ROM itself, there is no need to. You can always flash the RUU to return to that version (but data wiped). And SuperCID should allow you to revert to older RUU versions, if you want to go back to 1.73. If you want to keep your data and settings, you can use this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671746

[Q] Update path question

I'm rooted on 1.73 and want to get to 1.85 rooted and bl unlocked.
Should I -
OTA to 1.85>root>bl unlock
or
1.73>unlock>relock>1.85>root>re unlock

stoopid2001 said:
I'm rooted on 1.73 and want to get to 1.85 rooted and bl unlocked.
Should I -
OTA to 1.85>root>bl unlock
or
1.73>unlock>relock>1.85>root>re unlock
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As of today you can do the first option, so you might as well since there are less steps involved.

Use OTA Rootkeeper to store a copy of SU, then take the update. After taking the update open Rootkeeper and restore root.
If you are going to unlock then I would just do it now and flash a ROM, though.

stnguyen09 said:
As of today you can do the first option, so you might as well since there are less steps involved.
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In the event that root doesn't work on 1.85 he might get stuck unrooted. If OP is going to unlock BL anyway, I'd recommend doing that first, than update to 1.85. This is the safer bet.

redpoint73 said:
In the event that root doesn't work on 1.85 he might get stuck unrooted. If OP is going to unlock BL anyway, I'd recommend doing that first, than update to 1.85. This is the safer bet.
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Point taken.

[Q] Relock, RUU, Start Over?

Hi everyone,
I feel kind of bad for asking such a generic question like this, and I assure you that I have read around and done my research, but before I do potentially dangerous, irreversible, things to my device, I just want to make sure that I will perform the necessary steps correctly.
Basically, I have owned my HOX since launch date, and it came with either 1.73 or 1.85 base. As such, I rooted and unlocked the bootloader as soon as the exploits were available, and have been comfortably flashing ROMs and kernels every since. However, I have been experiencing some issues with data connectivity and stuff, issues that remain with any ROM, kernel, or radio that I flash. The details aren't important...
Now, I want to basically "start over" with my HOX. As if it was a brand new, unmodified, fresh device. So basically, unroot, relock bootloader, RUU, etc... And then start all over, root, unlock bootloader, install recovery, etc.....
Basically, what exact steps do I need to take to accomplish the "starting over"? As in the methods to use, the RUU to use, etc... ?
An outline of the steps, basically. My biggest fear is restoring to the wrong thing and losing my old HBOOT.
Again, I know this question probably gets asked often, but please bear with me through this.

I ruu'd my wife a and it was about 3 weeks before att sent her the next update lol. As long as you don't accept it you'll be fine. I'm sure you'd prolly root as soon as its finished anyway..
But you got it right. No need to unroot, just fire up fastboot and enter "fastboot oem lock". (Without quotes)
Figure out which ruu you need, most likely 1.85. Make sure you have the right HTC drivers updated, and make sure HTC sync is working right. Download ruu, which is an executable application, and run it. It should factory restore your phone like the day you bought it.
As far as restoring to the "bad" hboot, it shouldn't let you complete an ruu that's for another firmware other than what you had on it when you got root... So you'll be safe. Good luck bro, come back and let us know how it went :thumbup:
Sent from my One X using Tapatalk 2

So basically relock the bootloader with "fastboot oem lock" , and then RUU, and I have a fresh new phone?
And for determining which RUU I need, either 1.73 or 1.85, if I try running the wrong one, it will stop me?
And since I'm still on the older HBOOT with the older initial base, root and unlock the same way I did originally?
And also, once I relock my boot loader, should I immediately RUU?
So a full outline would be:
Connect phone to computer ( with drivers and all)
Boot into fast boot
Relock bootloader with command
RUU
Let phone boot
Re-root
Re-unlock bootloader
Install recovery
Flash ROMS!
?
And just because it's been forever since I've done it, what are the steps again for RUUing? Do I need to boot the phone into any special mode? Or I just connect the phone to the PC and run the RUU?
And after I relock the bootloader, will the phone reboot out of fastboot or anything? Or should I go immediately from the relock phase to the RUU phase?
Thanks

So basically relock the bootloader with "fastboot oem lock" , and then RUU, and I have a fresh new phone? You got it.
And for determining which RUU I need, either 1.73 or 1.85, if I try running the wrong one, it will stop me? Yes, it'll throw an error when you try to go through the RUU install process.
And since I'm still on the older HBOOT with the older initial base, root and unlock the same way I did originally? Yes. This is a fresh phone install after you run the RUU (like the day you bought it).
And also, once I relock my boot loader, should I immediately RUU? Yes. There's not a lot else you really need to do (especially on bricked phones, not a lot you CAN do).
So a full outline would be:
Connect phone to computer ( with drivers and all)
Boot into fast boot
Relock bootloader with command
RUU
Let phone boot
Re-root
Re-unlock bootloader
Install recovery
Flash ROMS!
? - Yes, that's pretty much it.
And just because it's been forever since I've done it, what are the steps again for RUUing? Do I need to boot the phone into any special mode? Or I just connect the phone to the PC and run the RUU? - Connect to pc in fastboot usb and run it from there.
And after I relock the bootloader, will the phone reboot out of fastboot or anything? - Nope, it'll stay in fastboot unless you reboot it.
Or should I go immediately from the relock phase to the RUU phase? - That makes things a little faster

Yep.. Run it from anywhere, as long as your computer recognizes your device let us know how it goes
Sent from my One X using Tapatalk 2

Ok, thanks a lot.
I don't have a PC with me right now (mac user) but once I get the opportunity I will go through with this. Thanks again!

Im hoping this thread may help me to solve my problem (I'm a total noob too lol)
I rooted and flashed a Rom on my HTC One S, and I had the same issues as OP
Im with Fido, but I was told that both Fido and Rogers use the same RUU
Trying to go back to stock, I relocked the bootloader.
1. then I ran the RUU (found a tutorial online), but I got an error message (155: wrong RUU or file cant be larger or something like that)
2. then I tried an alternative method : extract 2 files from the RUU, move them to another folder and from there run a cmd; didnt work either
(By the way, in method number 1, I also had to flash a recovery file (stock recovery) during the bootloader unlock process)
Did I do it the right way?
Can some Senior member give me a detailed step by step method?

Why do you keep posting HTC ONE S questions in our HTC ONE X forum? What is wrong with using the correct forum?

954wrecker said:
Why do you keep posting HTC ONE S questions in our HTC ONE X forum? What is wrong with using the correct forum?
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Yeah.

954wrecker said:
Why do you keep posting HTC ONE S questions in our HTC ONE X forum? What is wrong with using the correct forum?
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I did ???
Hey what do you know :laugh:

I have tried to do this multiple times, but no matter how many times a run the 2.2 exploit, and flash the unlock code bootloader continues to say relocked? any ideas

Yes, you need to check your pm. You need to hard reset the device. Hold power until device reboots, capacitive keys will flash during the process. Then run the unlock and you're device will unlock. I spent a full day to figure this out... Lol
Sent from my HTC One XL using Tapatalk 2

anyone happen to have a link on how to reset your phone back to factory defaults? i've had too many issues with roms, and my wifi, and as i use it for work, i cant have this happening.
I didn't back up the factory ROM before i started flashing, does that mean im pretty much screwed?
I have Hboot 1.14

Behemyth said:
anyone happen to have a link on how to reset your phone back to factory defaults? i've had too many issues with roms, and my wifi, and as i use it for work, i cant have this happening.
I didn't back up the factory ROM before i started flashing, does that mean im pretty much screwed?
I have Hboot 1.14
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If you want to reset to stock just run the ruu like the poster above is trying to do.
Sent from my HTC One XL

ECEXCURSION said:
If you want to reset to stock just run the ruu like the poster above is trying to do.
Sent from my HTC One XL
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Nobody answered his question about if he needs to find a RUU specific to his device. I've been looking and can't find an RUU specific to 1.14, and I dont want to chance bricking my device.

Behemyth said:
Nobody answered his question about if he needs to find a RUU specific to his device. I've been looking and can't find an RUU specific to 1.14, and I dont want to chance bricking my device.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237
scroll down to the stock ruu section and look up the firmware 2.2 not the hboot 1.14

Well, I'm the OP, and I ended up figuring out what RUU to use, which was 1.73. Basically, I ran 'fastboot oem lock' , then ran the RUU right afterwards, then booted up and ran the root exploit, rooted, and then ran 'fastboot oem unlock' using my old Unlock.bin file that I had from the very first time I unlocked the bootloader. From there, I installed a custom recovery and was good to go.

Yah, if your using 2.20 firmware, run the below link, works like a charm. Must make sure you re-lock the bootloader before, or it will error out. Just hold down the power button until it turns off if this happens.

possible brick
Skeeterdrums said:
So basically relock the bootloader with "fastboot oem lock" , and then RUU, and I have a fresh new phone? You got it.
And for determining which RUU I need, either 1.73 or 1.85, if I try running the wrong one, it will stop me? Yes, it'll throw an error when you try to go through the RUU install process.
And since I'm still on the older HBOOT with the older initial base, root and unlock the same way I did originally? Yes. This is a fresh phone install after you run the RUU (like the day you bought it).
And also, once I relock my boot loader, should I immediately RUU? Yes. There's not a lot else you really need to do (especially on bricked phones, not a lot you CAN do).
So a full outline would be:
Connect phone to computer ( with drivers and all)
Boot into fast boot
Relock bootloader with command
RUU
Let phone boot
Re-root
Re-unlock bootloader
Install recovery
Flash ROMS!
? - Yes, that's pretty much it.
And just because it's been forever since I've done it, what are the steps again for RUUing? Do I need to boot the phone into any special mode? Or I just connect the phone to the PC and run the RUU? - Connect to pc in fastboot usb and run it from there.
And after I relock the bootloader, will the phone reboot out of fastboot or anything? - Nope, it'll stay in fastboot unless you reboot it.
Or should I go immediately from the relock phase to the RUU phase? - That makes things a little faster
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I did this, but my phone never boots. It just stays at the bootloader after i run the RUU. Any ideas? :/
Also, i get the "this build is for development purposes only" message under the HTC logo before the phone enters the bootloader.
EDIT: managed to get the bootloadr unlocked again via HTCDev.com and flashed recovery and ROM. Guess Im not starting fresh after all lol