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I'm considering to buy a long lasting phone and Nexus S seem to be good, do you think it will survive over 2 years without casing? I'm good at caring phone, my current Sony Ericsson G900 is already over 2 years old and still functioning perfectly (it looks worn out clearly) and most people who have my phone broke within a year.
Nexus S is going to be my first Android phone, only thing that I don't like that you can't enable or disable flash in camera mode, it will decide if it should flash or not by it own. The design seem awkward but I could handle it.
I'm also considering Incredible S but it doesn't have enough developers and it's still locked, so I guess I should go for Nexus S.
What do you think, will it survive more than 2 years?
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I'm considering to buy a long lasting phone and Nexus S seem to be good, do you think it will survive over 2 years without casing? I'm good at caring phone, my current Sony Ericsson G900 is already over 2 years old and still functioning perfectly (it looks worn out clearly) and most people who have my phone broke within a year.
Nexus S is going to be my first Android phone, only thing that I don't like that you can't enable or disable flash in camera mode, it will decide if it should flash or not by it own. The design seem awkward but I could handle it.
I'm also considering Incredible S but it doesn't have enough developers and it's still locked, so I guess I should go for Nexus S.
What do you think, will it survive more than 2 years?
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It probably would if your G900 did.
But the galaxy s II is more durable than both.
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It probably would if your G900 did.
But the galaxy s II is more durable than both.
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It depends of what you talking about ? If hardware wise maybe and Evo 3D , htc sensation or SGSII but about updates most likely this one , any phone that is in the market and is a high end device most likely get ice cream(next big update for android) , nexus s most likely get it before anyone else(besides maybe nexus 3) google is trying to get manucfactures to make sure their phones they get updates within 18 months since launch but first they havent sign a form or paper that says they will second they haven't said for how long after google releases the update they need to release it as well so for all I know they could take 6 months( Evo is getting official gingerbread after 6 months, rolling out June 6, and the Evo was one of the best android phones in 2010 and a best carrier phone ) So I would stick with google if you want timely updates , that's one of the reason I got Me a nexus s
He is talking about the phone durability and yes, I would say it should last 2 years. It's made of plastic but it's not poor quality, it's much better then the galaxy S.
Since its a Google phone, you can't go wrong on picking it, it will always have the up-to-date software and will always have developers, even after 3 years (well, unless its about hardware limitation).
Its currently one of the best (if not the best) single core devices on the market, its definitely future proof.
And the camera does have the ability to turn the flash on or off, depending on your preferences.
The design is gorgeous btw, at least I think it is. The curve form is unique and when the display is turned off it looks completely black and clean, I think it looks very elegant.
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He is talking about the phone durability and yes, I would say it should last 2 years. It's made of plastic but it's not poor quality, it's much better then the galaxy S.
Since its a Google phone, you can't go wrong on picking it, it will always have the up-to-date software and will always have developers, even after 3 years (well, unless its about hardware limitation).
Its currently one of the best (if not the best) single core devices on the market, its definitely future proof.
And the camera does have the ability to turn the flash on or off, depending on your preferences.
The design is gorgeous btw, at least I think it is. The curve form is unique and when the display is turned off it looks completely black and clean, I think it looks very elegant.
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Oh ha ha yeah man then you should be good and since it would be hour first android device it would be great for you to see what's android about
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White girl said:
Nexus S is going to be my first Android phone, only thing that I don't like that you can't enable or disable flash in camera mode
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yes you can. i do it almost every day. and btw, the NS is very well built.
Thanks for your responses. Though there's one problem, I live in Moscow, Russia and there is no Google support store or something like that, if I need phone repair, it won't be possible?
Though I never need any repairs in past, so hopefully it will be same for Nexus S.
White girl said:
Thanks for your responses. Though there's one problem, I live in Moscow, Russia and there is no Google support store or something like that, if I need phone repair, it won't be possible?
Though I never need any repairs in past, so hopefully it will be same for Nexus S.
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Don't use your rubles on a nexus s when its going to be outdated in a few months
Or, if you can't wait, then just get the GSII. Its what the nexus s shoulda been lol [just the only major letdown is...Touchwiz :'(] plus its available in the motherland, no?
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Don't use your rubles on a nexus s when its going to be outdated in a few months
Or, if you can't wait, then just get the GSII. Its what the nexus s shoulda been lol [just the only major letdown is...Touchwiz :'(] plus its available in the motherland, no?
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Why the [bleep] do people keep telling me to buy GSII, it's NOWHERE near my price range. Also I don't even want 4.3" in my teenager girl hand.
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White girl said:
Why the **** do people keep telling me to buy GSII, it's NOWHERE near my price range. Also I don't even want 4.3" in my teenager girl hand.
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ха-ха ты смешно .. но NexusS хороший телефон, будете очень счастливы
(sorry, even though im russian, my russian sucks )
If somebody can answer the op's question, I've got a question too. What are the winning numbers for this week's powerball jackpot?
White girl said:
Thanks for your responses. Though there's one problem, I live in Moscow, Russia and there is no Google support store or something like that, if I need phone repair, it won't be possible?
Though I never need any repairs in past, so hopefully it will be same for Nexus S.
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Hi, Samsung handles all the warranty/hardware support for the nexus s, not Google. Only question is if you have access to Samsung support in Russia...?
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PeXda00 said:
Hi, Samsung handles all the warranty/hardware support for the nexus s, not Google. Only question is if you have access to Samsung support in Russia...?
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Alright, and yeah we have Samsung support.
simms22 said:
yes you can. i do it almost every day. and btw, the NS is very well built.
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I wouldn't say its very well built with all the creaking it has lol.
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Vandam500 said:
I wouldn't say its very well built with all the creaking it has lol.
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My NS4G doesn't creak at all. Its very well built.
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Why the **** do people keep telling me to buy GSII, it's NOWHERE near my price range. Also I don't even want 4.3" in my teenager girl hand.
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The Nexus S is perfect then.
Its the best single core phone ever made.
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I've owned an HTC hero samsung instinct, HTC ppc6700, etc and the nexus s seems as durable as any of those devices. I still use my ppc6700 on my wlan!
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I wouldn't say its very well built with all the creaking it has lol.
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No way! Galaxy S I9000 creaks like hell, but not the nexus s. It may be made of plastic but it sure has a solid feel.
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I wouldn't say its very well built with all the creaking it has lol.
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really? yours creaks? i havent heard that one before. no creaking here. my only complaint is that id put the volume buttons where the power buttons is, and vice versa. but thats no biggie.
my ns4g feels solid, but to answer your question, YMMV.
I'm wondering what you guys think. Will the gingerbread update be the last official update the g2x gets? Or do you think it will get ice cream sandwich and beyond?
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Officially? Who knows. But the fantastic devs will almost certainly release custom roms the will go beyond gingerbread.
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The alpha omega update? This was the case with the HTC shadow, just 1 update, it's first and last.
Any way what would be great and keep our G2x top of the line and extend it's life would be if nvidia were to release driver updates for the CPU/GPU, as they do for their PC graphics cards.
Nvidia is awesome at releasing timely updates of their video drivers, hopefully they consider doing it for their tegra chips.
One of the key points of doing a stock Android is to have a constant stream of releases. Once the bugs are worked out....updating to the most current android should not be a lot of new work.
The G2x has enough horsepower to run many more updates than just one or two
If not then it will be ported.
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I hope we do get more updates.
The thing is that LG is new in this game and I really hope they start doing best practices from other businesses, maybe Nvidia can help them push a little as well as T-Mobile to keep releasing updates even though that T-Mobile is less than likely to push them since they want to sell the last new thing.
But yeah, if they wise they'll and really care about their customers and want to position theirselves as one of the smartphone companies then they'll have to have the updates coming.
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Honestly I don't understand why this phone couldn't get multiple updates. I thought the whole reason for it having basic Android was so that it could be easier to udate. As well, rumor mill has it that later versions of Android are going to require a dual core, well this phone has everything under the hood for it to have a long shelf life. I hope they do right by this phone.
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Didn't the big phone companies recently promise Google they'd update their phones on a timely (regular?) basis.....
ickster said:
Didn't the big phone companies recently promise Google they'd update their phones on a timely (regular?) basis.....
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For the first 18 months after release. Its part of their contract with Google and the open hand set alliance.
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I think it remains to be seen if this phone is even a viable product. Will the phone ever be back in stock and saleable from T-Mo?
If a jillion more G2xs are sold then we will see many updates and a bunch of dev support. But, if the phone is never brought back then we are stuck in a dead end with a failed experiment.
I believe LG's future as trusted top-tier brand is at stake, but I'm still not certain they'll ever get it right.
If this update fixes all the issues and allows tmobile to resume selling their stock, than it will probably see more updates.
If after all this time they still can't get it right, and tmobile refuses to sell their stock? She'll be dead Jim. Of course this is all speculation... Nobody knows.
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People act like this is lg's first android phone ...I'm thinking the only way we get limited updates is of the merger goes through
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It'll be just like the g2, numerous updates because it's stock android...oh wait, nvm.
My guess is GB will be the last update.
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People act like this is lg's first android phone ...I'm thinking the only way we get limited updates is of the merger goes through
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They have made a lot of second tier also-ran Android phones, but this is their first attempt at a serious smartphone contender in this market.
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For the first 18 months after release. Its part of their contract with Google and the open hand set alliance.
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Then we should see updates until September of 2012, no?
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They have made a lot of second tier also-ran Android phones, but this is their first attempt at a serious smartphone contender in this market.
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And?
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And?
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And... it remains to be seen if LG is ultimately capable of producing and supporting a top tier Android smartphone. Right now the answer to that question is no.
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I think it remains to be seen if this phone is even a viable product. Will the phone ever be back in stock and saleable from T-Mo?
If a jillion more G2xs are sold then we will see many updates and a bunch of dev support. But, if the phone is never brought back then we are stuck in a dead end with a failed experiment.
I believe LG's future as trusted top-tier brand is at stake, but I'm still not certain they'll ever get it right.
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Crack smoking dreaming. The G2x is still being sold, that the actual web-store of T-Mobile does not have any instock is meaningless. They still are supporting their distribution channel, so those partners are not feeling left out in the cold. Amazon, Wirefly, Costco...they all still sell them. It is lame, very lame to define selling the phones from T-mobile as just via their webstore.
If you were selling phones for T-mobile as a third-party vendor, would you be happy that T-mobile hoards the supply? Or would you raise the price to make your vendors prices seem much better than they could do directly.
Thinking that LG that makes lots of phones, is going down by the simple fact that a backlight turned up to max brightness shows some bleed. Turning to max brightness in a darkroom even to watch movies is not likely.
Users already report that custom ROMs fix most if not all the software caused problem.
So your theory is that LG can not duplicate, or even outright use as basis other coders solutions to fix the problems. What are you 15?
Actually I'm 48, I've been working in IT since the early 90s and I haven't smoked any crack in months.
People keep fliping out on the G2X and calling it a failure. Here's a secret. Less than 1% of all the G2X's sold have been returned to TMO, I would say that's pretty awesome and does not signify any major issues. People are not screaming about the Sidekick 4G being a major flop even though you can't get it in stores or on the web right now either. It's called product shortage. The manufacutrer produced to little to keep up with the demand and that is unfortunate.
As for the long term upgrade viability of the phone, being a stock Android phone I see this phone having a nice healthy span for at least the next 18 months whether by Tmo and Google or through the Developers. The hardware can support it so there will be nothing stoping it.
The droid prime is suppose to be the successor to the droid charge, that's my problem with android. The charge just came out a couple of months back, and yet to receive a major update! What samsung should be doing is updating there flag ship phones first, there just selfish, knowing people will continue buying there new products they just leave us to rot. these phones come out way to fast, can we get a chance to enjoy the phone with gb first? The prime will probably be out before we even get gb smh. HELLO SAMSUNG AND VERIZON, THE DROID CHARGE IS ONE OF YOUR FLAGSHIP DEVICES, UPDATE TO THE LATEST SOFTWARE!, THEY RELEASE A BUGGY PHONE FOR NEARLY 600$ AND I GOT MINE FREE! JUST IMAGINE IF I WOULD'VE PAID I'D BE REALLY PISSED. bottom line is the droid charge is a great phone and I want to use it to its full potential before I upgrade to a newer device.spread the word care for your customers
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So would you rather they release buggy software prematurely to fix a buggy phone? They've been working on GB (and it's been leaking), which is why I've been enjoying GB for well over a month. Anyways, what you're upset about is the way the cell phone industry tends to work. They're not going to stop updating their model lines just because they haven't put out an update for existing models yet.
Just imagine how Thunderbolt owners feel.
Correction: Droid(Nexus) Prime time is a Nexus successor.
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phone envy is frequent for me personally
whenever a new phone comes out i get pissed i bought my previous one
but honestly the prime and charge have little connection to each other...if the prime is a nexus phone then basically its a samsung designed phone that google does the software for, so it would have no impact whatsoever on touchwiz updates for the charge
samsung has submitted dozens of builds to verizon and from what i can see each one gets better and better
is it annoying that there is no official gb yet? sure but the same could be said for the fascinate or even worse no official FROYO for the continuum
vzw and samsung combo equals slow updates
its a reality of buying from those two and its not a secret (droid branding or not)
the thunderbolt doesnt have official gb either fwiw nor the lg lte phone
i personally have an inc2 and wont be pissed when the vigor comes out (same time frame inc2 launch to vigor vs charge launch to prime)...granted i have several upgrades and will probably just go pick that up too
The Droid Prime is likely NOT to be a Nexus device (or else it would have the Nexus name). It's software will most likely be managed by Verizon, rather than Google, and probably carry all of the crapware we've all come to know and love hate.
Phone dev cycles seem to be roughly bi-annually to quarterly, depending on the software and hardware available. At any given time, any one dev shop (HTC, Samsung, wherever) will be simultaneously be working on at least 2 software versions for any given device (as evidenced by the lower build date on the Fascinate's initial GB leak compared to the final FroYo leak).
And to pick some nits with the OP:
supposed, their, they're, their, too
Thank you BGR for starting the DROID Prime rumor. NO ONE knows what the device will be when it shows up, when it will show up, or much of anything else about it. We have a few unconfirmed details, but that is it. The people that do know what the device will be called aren't talking. Also, just because it is labeled with DROID doesn't mean that it won't be a Google Experience Phone. Unless you have physical proof of what you're talking about, it would be great of everyone to stop with the DROID Prime rumor until the actual device name is announced.
Another thing is, touch wiz 4 is out.so why aren't we going to get the latest update of touchwiz? Thats just bs, if you have updated software, update your damn your damn phones to the latest software! Whats an update if there not updating the ui
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Another thing is, touch wiz 4 is out.so why aren't we going to get the latest update of touchwiz? Thats just bs, if you have updated software, update your damn your damn phones to the latest software! Whats an update if there not updating the ui
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Could be that features of TW4 require something specific to the SGS2 phone. Or, Samsung doesn't want to back-port it on their own. Either way, nothing you can really do about it.
If you buy a car, and they change the features on the next model year, do you go and complain to the car manufacturer/dealer like this? You're spending significantly more than $600 for a new car, so I'd hope so...
Smells like buyers remorse in here.
There's a thread like this one in every phone's forum on XDA without exception.
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Could be that features of TW4 require something specific to the SGS2 phone. Or, Samsung doesn't want to back-port it on their own. Either way, nothing you can really do about it.
If you buy a car, and they change the features on the next model year, do you go and complain to the car manufacturer/dealer like this? You're spending significantly more than $600 for a new car, so I'd hope so...
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They have the software, and its not hardware that I'm complaining about, but software updates like touch wiz 4 should even be on the fascinate, and no buyers remorse here since I didn't even buy the phone. Its just how it should be, but no problem, I will get the samsung prime knowing they won't be able to improve the next gen devices by alot.the wave of android phones will slow down significantly. Peace xda family
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charlie_c said:
Smells like buyers remorse in here.
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Nope didn't even buy the phone, I'm still eligible for an upgrade
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Coming to the Charge from the Fascinate I knew damn well that this would happen but I took it anyway as it was the best option (and still is... LOL bionic), and I don't regret it at all... if you haven't figured out by now that there's gonna be a new phone out every six months or so thats 10 times better than your current one then you must be new to android... I know it must take a lot to try and update the tons of phones a carrier has on each cell provider, making specific coding changes to get it to work with the individual phones hardware and whatnot so I don't mind and will be more than happy to burn an upgrade or drop some money on the new beast thats out at the time
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Also, just because it is labeled with DROID doesn't mean that it won't be a Google Experience Phone. Unless you have physical proof of what you're talking about, it would be great of everyone to stop with the DROID Prime rumor until the actual device name is announced.
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Exactly. Motorola Droid, anyone? Google Experience phone(even though I don't remember if it had any of the Verizon bloatware)
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Nope didn't even buy the phone, I'm still eligible for an upgrade
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That includes quite a high percentage of people on this forum...lol
Is there any confirmation that the Prime is even going to be released on Verizon?
DirgeExtinction said:
Exactly. Motorola Droid, anyone? Google Experience phone(even though I don't remember if it had any of the Verizon bloatware)
Your right, hopefully droid prime gets pure google like the motorola droid did
That includes quite a high percentage of people on this forum...lol
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The droid prime is suppose to be the successor to the droid charge, that's my problem with android. The charge just came out a couple of months back, and yet to receive a major update!
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Buy an iCrap if you want boxed up updates with a nice bow and personal nametag.
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THEY RELEASE A BUGGY PHONE FOR NEARLY 600$ AND I GOT MINE FREE!
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I DID pay for this phone and am in no way pissed at samsung or verizon. You got the phone for free, so shut your mouth and count your blessings.
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there just selfish, knowing people will continue buying there new products they just leave us to rot
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Technology changes faster than a retards underwear.
Also, aren't the samsung droid charge devs on xda? What updates aren't you getting
Last thing....
Your problem with android is superior technology and forward motion?
I guess im confused.
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Nope didn't even buy the phone, I'm still eligible for an upgrade
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Buyer/owner, whatever...my point was that you sound like you don't want the phone in its current state. I'm running a Gingerbread ROM with the TouchWiz 4.0 launcher. If your biggest complaint is the lack of those two things, they've both been available for those willing to put them on the phone themselves.
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They have the software, and its not hardware that I'm complaining about, but software updates like touch wiz 4 should even be on the fascinate, and no buyers remorse here since I didn't even buy the phone. Its just how it should be, but no problem, I will get the samsung prime knowing they won't be able to improve the next gen devices by alot.the wave of android phones will slow down significantly. Peace xda family
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It's called technology ... it's moving forward. Once the phones catch up to the current technology, the onslaught of phones will stop ... just like you stated. The fact you even brought this up, about a phone that details about the phone aren't even released yet. Much less even said to be released on the Verizon network ... is redundant in itself. You're a troll, and must be treated as such. I would ignore any comments this moron makes just for the simple fact he's moaning about a device he may not even see. Not to mention ... Droid Charge isn't even Verizon's "flagship" phone. That would be the Bionic. Have a nice day.
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It's called technology ... it's moving forward. Once the phones catch up to the current technology, the onslaught of phones will stop ... just like you stated. The fact you even brought this up, about a phone that details about the phone aren't even released yet. Much less even said to be released on the Verizon network ... is redundant in itself. You're a troll, and must be treated as such. I would ignore any comments this moron makes just for the simple fact he's moaning about a device he may not even see. Not to mention ... Droid Charge isn't even Verizon's "flagship" phone. That would be the Bionic. Have a nice day.
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Hater, your the troll I just said what was on my mind about the manufacturer never said the droid charge wasn't a great phone so how am I trolling, I dislike people like you who come on the forum just to talk smack about a person's thoughts, speak on the subject not about me you punk.have a good day, you need it.
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I keep hearing that Sammy's perspective is that there is no "financial incentive" to provide updates to old phones. Well here is one. I will never buy another samsung android phone so long as they have this policy. I will also tell everyone who will listen to do the same.
I know that if they do not support devices as recent as the SGS4G, it is only a matter of time before their new devices are unsupported.
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Heh, Raver and I were talking about why they would wind up not giving ICS to the Vibrant and it was for this reason. They're a capitalist company, and updating older phones would not be good for business. People wouldn't have an incentive to upgrade if they got the latest software all the time.
I am a little mad that they're not going to update the T959V to ICS since it falls within the 18 month time window that they're supposed to provide upgrades for. Go figure.
Yeah Sammy really wiped it's ass with the pledge it made to Google about the 18 month window.
Isnt hardware a good incentive to upgrade?
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Isnt hardware a good incentive to upgrade?
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I agree with you. Hardware is a good enough incentive, but samsung is too greedy and cheap to provide the software updates for their older device. The SGS 4G is still relative new too. This is why there are people still buying, using, and praising Apple. Their support and service put samsung to shame.
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Upgrades come once every 2 years unless you drop 600 in a phone. The bs is that a new phone with better hardware comes out every 4 months and all other phones no longer get supported due to " hardware" or some crap. The galaxy s3 is coming out in a few months. Wanna bet my galaxy s2 won't be able to run android 5.0 due to hardware limitations. There are phones with weaker specs than my sgs4g that are getting ics. It's corporate greed on Sammy's part really. This is the one area, in my opinion, that apple does right. They support their devices for a good couple years. Samsung could, they just don't.
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hey, remember the 18 month window. Well we should all make a petition about this phone only. And also give a copy to Google.
Well that isn't final news. So lets keep fingers crossed.
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hey, remember the 18 month window. Well we should all make a petition about this phone only. And also give a copy to Google.
Well that isn't final news. So lets keep fingers crossed.
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I read something about an official statement saying Samsung is not going to update
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The sad thing is, by the time to you drop 600 on the latest phone, it's already outdated.
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The sad thing is, by the time to you drop 600 on the latest phone, it's already outdated.
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Just about.
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http://thenextweb.com/mobile/2012/0...-deliver-value-pack-for-galaxy-s-smartphones/
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Samsung failure to provide future support - opinion
I for one, have always liked Samsung phones, since my Captivate, then Vibrant, when I switched to tmobile, to the SGS4G. It was a blessing to see Gingerbread release and source for the SGS4G. Especially since it is so different from the other Galaxy S cousins. The Vibrant is still waiting for Gingerbread, and they have a petition to hopefully convince Samsung into at least giving a Gingerbread update.
I would be satisfied if they would release their Driver source or at least the driver API and associated libs so we as a community ( or on your own ) can build ICS or any other version for our phones after they drop support.
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I would be satisfied if they would release their Driver source or at least the driver API and associated libs so we as a community ( or on your own ) can build ICS or any other version for our phones after they drop support.
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But we are indeed getting the "value pack" mentioned in the article after all; it should be a nice start, allowing for new features without necessarily offering a full ICS release.
Still, it's frustrating that the Nexus gets the full 4.0 but the Galaxy doesn't.
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But we are indeed getting the "value pack" mentioned in the article after all; it should be a nice start, allowing for new features without necessarily offering a full ICS release.
Still, it's frustrating that the Nexus gets the full 4.0 but the Galaxy doesn't.
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Where'd you read this?
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Where'd you read this?
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I would also like to know this. I have read several articles where Sammy says nothing will be released afterall.
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Saddlebags said:
But we are indeed getting the "value pack" mentioned in the article after all; it should be a nice start, allowing for new features without necessarily offering a full ICS release.
Still, it's frustrating that the Nexus gets the full 4.0 but the Galaxy doesn't.
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They made mention of a value pack, but scrapped the idea 2 days later.
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The nexus line will always get the update first after all base updates comes from google then google will give the source codes to the other company.
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Sammie's loss, 'cause all I can say is, I'm stuck with 14 months left on this contract, and looks like I'm going back to HTC after that.
This also helps me to decide on my new tablet... and the brand won't be Samsung now.
I love my phone ... but I hate Samsung.
They are a bunch of capitalist bastards. I understand that everyone is out to make money, but as it was mentioned, many people have 2 year contracts with their phone company. I for one refuse to pay $600 for a phone. That is utterly ridiculous in my opinion. And personally I know many others who feel the same way ... we wait until our upgrade is available and then upgrade to the best possible option.
For those of us that feel the way that we do, not supporting their older devices just drives a knife between Samsung and us. Whether they support our phone or not... I will have this phone until my contract is up. If Samsung does not support my device I can assure you this will be my last Samsung device that I will ever purchase.
I always found that odd, like simple math escapes the masses or some lol - kats refuse to pay 600 for a phone outright, but those same kats are cool with taking it in the ass for 2 years and paying 2136 in that time frame (basic Tmo 89 a month unlimited/limited plan)
...which means you're paying a **** ton more than 600 for that phone lol
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I completely understand everyone's frustrations with capitalism, but Samsung is no different than any other large or small corporation blatantly raping our asses for cash (car insurance is a great example) - that's what we're all born and bred to do, become consumers, nothing more, nothing less - everyone on this god forsaken planet epitomizes insanity with their 9-5 lives of compliance, mediocrity and consumer slavery, don't do a damn thing about it, but then expect the slave owners to listen when they have a problem with the dirty spoon they're forced to eat with - lol wake the [email protected] up ..meh, better yet, simply continue to live your life in a dream world thinking you're unique and special ..just like everyone else - yeah, it's much easier that way lol - c'est la vie
Sigh. Official ICS came out on 11th Oct. Its been 5 business days and counting and still no sign of kernel source anywhere. Why oh why, LG? Isn't the torture for the past year enough. Even Optimus black got their source the next business day.
Is there a slightest of slightest chance that the kernel source might never see the daylight?
I bet you they are doing this on purpose to screw over all the "non" korean 2x users. They are trying to force us to get a new phone!
They could care less about us. Lemmings will go out and buy more LG products... I don't care if the next Nexus is gonna have specs that rival high-performance gaming machines capable of playing Crysis at 120 FPS. If its made by LG, I'll pass...
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They could care less about us. Lemmings will go out and buy more LG products... I don't care if the next Nexus is gonna have specs that rival high-performance gaming machines capable of playing Crysis at 120 FPS. If its made by LG, I'll pass...
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You won't find your happiness with othee brands, it's the same with every single one of them. Two of my friends have the galaxy s2 and the sony ericsson xperia ray, both of which received their ICS update almost 6 months ago, and both of them just got a notification to update just the other day. You've been waiting for 5 business days? Pfff, patience, yound Skywalker...
Screw LG.
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Hope they release the update soon
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You won't find your happiness with othee brands, it's the same with every single one of them. Two of my friends have the galaxy s2 and the sony ericsson xperia ray, both of which received their ICS update almost 6 months ago, and both of them just got a notification to update just the other day. You've been waiting for 5 business days? Pfff, patience, yound Skywalker...
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So, Galaxy s2 and Sony Ericsson Experia Ray got ICS update 6 months ago, and they just got an update notifaction the other day. That's more than the Canadian Optimus 2X (which is a clone of the G2X) which never got an Android OS update from Froyo and, according to LG, never will. I'd say that puts the last nail in LG's coffin in Canada as far as owners of that LG phone, including me, are concerned. U.S. owners of the G2X will probably never see another update for their phone from Gingerbread either. Owners of the Optimus 2X, other than those who own the Korean SU660 version which just got it's ICS update, are still waiting for ICS and, if it does become available, may only be available in some markets. LG is also stalling on providing the source code for the Korean SU660 version of ICS. Consequently, I think we've been much too patient.
Please explain me a thing: if there's already drivers for everything work in the ICS, why do we still having problems with 3D acceleration?
Okay, there is no official ROM, but CM9, CM10 is so well developed that, in my mind, is not such a big deal to get the drivers from SU660 and cook a new ROM, or am I wrong?
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Please explain me a thing: if there's already drivers for everything work in the ICS, why do we still having problems with 3D acceleration?
Okay, there is no official ROM, but CM9, CM10 is so well developed that, in my mind, is not such a big deal to get the drivers from SU660 and cook a new ROM, or am I wrong?
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Without the source code showing the "hooks" into the driver(s), it would take an extreme amount of talent and work to reverse engineer the code which virtually no one is willing to expend on a phone which is, in tech time, ancient history.
You guys are acting like a bunch of babies. The kernel sources are coming and we all know it but complaining won't expedite the process. How about exercising a little patience? Who cares if they don't work on our schedule? Even if it takes a month, that's fine with me. At least we will get it...
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They could care less about us. Lemmings will go out and buy more LG products... I don't care if the next Nexus is gonna have specs that rival high-performance gaming machines capable of playing Crysis at 120 FPS. If its made by LG, I'll pass...
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Yeah, but if it's a Nexus phone, then that means Google would be in charge of the updating process, correct? If so, then why hate on their next phone if they won't even have control over the updates?
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Yeah, but if it's a Nexus phone, then that means Google would be in charge of the updating process, correct? If so, then why hate on their next phone if they won't even have control over the updates?
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Why hate? I'm of the belief that I'm not going to "reward" a company for bad business practices. That's why!
So now I'm impatient and a "cry baby" for having a harsh opinion of a hardware company?? Wow... Just... wow....
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You guys are acting like a bunch of babies. The kernel sources are coming and we all know it but complaining won't expedite the process. How about exercising a little patience? Who cares if they don't work on our schedule? Even if it takes a month, that's fine with me. At least we will get it...
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They care, lol.
I'm just saying, crying about it isn't going to speed up the process. We've waited this long what's another week?
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I'm just saying, crying about it isn't going to speed up the process. We've waited this long what's another week?
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A week too long had this since launch been waiting ever since. LG seems to be a day late and a dollar short constantly. 2.3.7 comes out we get 2.3.3 ics comes out we get 2.3.4 not *****ing just stating a fact
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A week too long had this since launch been waiting ever since. LG seems to be a day late and a dollar short constantly. 2.3.7 comes out we get 2.3.3 ics comes out we get 2.3.4 not *****ing just stating a fact
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Sounds like *****ing
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everyone needs to get angry at each other. seriously guys, stop complaining. Mods are going to start locking threads if you keep this up.
Hopefully we wont have to see the people who create such threads over the LG Nexus forum. That way it can stay clean. :fingers-crossed:
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everyone needs to get angry at each other. seriously guys, stop complaining. Mods are going to start locking threads if you keep this up.
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My anger is directed at the LG corporation. There's no anger towards other members having their opinions and feelings. The members that frequent these forums (majority of them at least) are here because they care about the product they currently have, or just flat out like to help. My anger at LG isn't going to make me stop helping whenever I can, with whatever I can. If you're in this forum, more than likely you're a G2X/O2X owner. We're here for each other to lend a helping hand.
Guys, Guys, Guys.
The intention for this thread wasn't to start a flame war or so on. This is the "so near yet so far" syndrome, atleast for me.
It was/is killing me inside that we are just one hurdle away from getting a stable ICS/JB ,which all of us who have this device are dreaming about for an year, and yet again the kernel source isn't out even thou for a phone from the same company it was out the next day. I hate it to be a deja vu. Waiting another year for the kernel source. lol.