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Solution for 3.50 and Leaked Sensation XE working like a charm.
Hi Guys.I found solution for us to make 3.50 really working.
1.clear dalvik cache and do superwipe
2.flash rom and test it...if still having issues like vol up down etc..do same thing again.This maybe conflict between old files with new file.myself do 3 times.
3.If somebody having issues about missing music apk..go to this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1253447 and install htc beat mode.and reflash back rom.
4.and lastly..annoying lower benchmark...go to oc daemon or watever program you use..setcpu.....set ondemand to perfomance and test it with watever benchmarking application.after that set to on demand mode again and restart.i get more than sgs 2 benchmark after doing this
now everything will run smoothly.
I test it almost everything included palying backstab and asphalt 6.No more lag...No more glitch.
This is my own experimental and hope will help u guys
1.Wat i have now...becnhmarking more than sgs 2
2.Truly in setting,about phone,hardware information 1.5ghz qualcomm msm8660 dual core
3.More free ram..maintain 180-200 mb
4.more smoother
5.Camera much better without need any mod
I test using Revolution Hd 3.50 by mike and it work.maybe same also with other rom base on leaked 3.50 rom.Using faux kernel is the best now.with Revolution Hd 3.50 its already using latest version faux kernel.
Tq Mike And Faux And Everybody make this possible to us
Found New Rom in htc spain
ROM 20B in stock .. zip roteada CWR
-Roteada, superuser -Boot at 1150 OC We thank Comrade estrajo BERIARU that the boot of the 20B and has served us to make the OC causes the kernel l
Installation -From the recovery .. do not forget WIPES This intestate. (Just me). If there is any bug report it, but should only appear who are on official
http://www.wuala.com/jechus/ROMS/
Say thx Tor acura and when like press THX button
trying now
cjx75 said:
trying now
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Same here.
Is there any other boot versions? The samba beta v2 had many to choose from.
Nope. Only one. But I am able to use with Samba boot option. So far so good. never hanged or ghost call.
Just installed over samba rom without any wipe. Used original boot from samba, i never overclock my phone. Everything is smooth, some apps are missing (cell broadcast widget :-( , whatsapp...) and some are added, some NeverWillUse buddy apps etc. I will definetly stay on this rom for some time.
Sent from my LG-P920 using XDA App
very nice, stable and smooth rom. (installed on german p920 over v21 thiaiz clean v.0.2)
Jechus said on htcspain.com that this rom is almos the same as samba, and that the final samba will be out soon. I wish samba will have gpu oc @400 MHz..
IFLPI
I wish samba will have gpu oc @400 MHz.
+1
Anyone know the difference between this and the AcuraTeam_20A_stock_SAMBA_.zip that is now showing in the download link?
Ok found 1 flaw so far , the camera fc and the phone reboots when u open the camera app in landscape mode.
overall a smooth rom
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Anyone know the difference between this and the AcuraTeam_20A_stock_SAMBA_.zip that is now showing in the download link?
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One is four p920
Other p920h
kampfbestie said:
One is four p920
Other p920h
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Thanks. I have the p920, but I have tried the samba beta before and it works well for me as well. So is there a real difference?
Tested also both and didnt saw a difference
For dayly use im using rushdroid (modificated samba) also p920h
kampfbestie said:
Tested also both and didnt saw a difference
For dayly use im using rushdroid (modificated samba) also p920h
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I would like to try rushdroid, but unfortunately there is only one OC speed at 1.2ghz and my phone is not really stable at that high OC. 1.15ghz is the highest it will go.
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I would like to try rushdroid, but unfortunately there is only one OC speed at 1.2ghz and my phone is not really stable at that high OC. 1.15ghz is the highest it will go.
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Have at time only the 1188 killer kernel maybe at home more here the link
http://hotfile.com/dl/148223809/0d47003/Samba2020.1188-KIllers.zip.html
samba beta corruptus had two files, which are also present in rushdroid ...... "netcfg" and "run-as" in-Bin System should be replaced for proper functioning ... informing Rhus to the fix
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Soon new boots with the new kernel to different roms OC.compatbles with both 20B and 20A
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samba beta corruptus had two files, which are also present in rushdroid ...... "netcfg" and "run-as" in-Bin System should be replaced for proper functioning ... informing Rhus to the fix
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Ok. Then I guess I should wait for the rushdroid to patch the ROM and release the different oc
boots before trying. 20B is good for me at the moment.
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samba beta corruptus had two files, which are also present in rushdroid ...... "netcfg" and "run-as" in-Bin System should be replaced for proper functioning ... informing Rhus to the fix
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Soon new boots with the new kernel to different roms OC.compatbles with both 20B and 20A
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Nice. Would it be possible to make OC and undervolting kernel that will run 1,3GHz cpu and 400MHz gpu on Gingerbread rom as it is on Maximum Velocity froyo rom? I would like to have it on ginger cause I dont want to downgrade and flash Froyo baseband. It would be nice in a final Samba rom.
The BEST Rom for me!
Thanks
IFLPI said:
Nice. Would it be possible to make OC and undervolting kernel that will run 1,3GHz cpu and 400MHz gpu on Gingerbread rom as it is on Maximum Velocity froyo rom? I would like to have it on ginger cause I dont want to downgrade and flash Froyo baseband. It would be nice in a final Samba rom.
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The kernel released by LG, for Ginger 21A ... does not work, does not the network coverage, and they have not fixed or released other.
This kernel aims to improve performance, while still maximizing stability (and getting rid of reboots and SODs). It's working on all ROMs so far, so here it is for your approval. It can overclock to 1704Mhz, but doesn't override your user limit. I've added SIO and Init.d support and some various tweaks, and rebased to the newest source. Next is more cpu governors and general tweaks. Thanks to Roach for his commits from github, and guevor for new suspend code to imitate.
Some ROMs use a different build config, so Use The Right Version Below! Please Wipe Cache in CWM before flashing.
Update 4/11/12: Added test version of Veno, read about it at: http://www.ie.cuhk.edu.hk/fileadmin/staff_upload/soung/Journal/J3.pdf1.0 is up for All testers. Voodoo should be supported, please report. Wifi has been tested on Stock/ARHD/Revolver/Megatron/CNA/AOKP, but please test with other ROMs. I'm trying to compile one kernel for all ROMs, but EOS is still separate. Mega props to Guevor for the new suspend code. I'm trying to implement it without directly copying him though, so I need testers again. I will compile for other ROMs if necessary.
Update 4/7/12-2: 0.8 Added OC up to 1704mhz, Under/Overvolt support, made some changes to error handling for wifi stack, tweaked default voltages, and some stuff I can't remember right now. For testing, 0.8 downloads are in green. CIFS, TUN, and NTFS are cooked in, you should not need to load modules. There is a download link provided below for people who want the modules anyways.Personally tested on all ROMs listed, haven't had time to try Frozn.
Install with CWM or Rogue
Download 1.0(All ROMs, except EOS):http://db.tt/nNEbqufy
Download 1.0 With TCP_VENO(All ROMs, except EOS):http://db.tt/CqEqLMDQ
Download 1.0(EOS):http://db.tt/nnn4x9mN
Download 0.8(Stock/ARHD/Revolver/Megatron):http://db.tt/XyxW8WTK
Download 0.8(CNA/CM9Mar29/AOKP):http://db.tt/fiOXe16e
Download 0.8(EOS)http://db.tt/rcUAfPjz
Download 0.6 (Stock/ARHD/Revolver):http://db.tt/YDIInoKn
Download 0.6 (CNA, CM9, AOKP):http://db.tt/wdwPhWVt
Download 0.6 (EOS):http://db.tt/1yAOB7tq
Download 0.7 (Stock/ARHD/Revolver):http://db.tt/YsOdC3Tk
Download 0.7 (CNA, CM9, AOKP):http://db.tt/91iLDpKq
Download 0.7 (EOS):http://db.tt/HVY81MUQ
CIFS/NTFS Modules: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21284412/modules.zip
You shouldn't need these, but I'll leave the link for old time's sake.
This is still beta. You must have balls to flash this(metaphorically speaking). Don't rip mine off if you have to reflash something else.
I had a couple requests for a donation link, so I'm posting one below. Feel free to buy me a beer if you want, but most of the work was done by the source code and people before me.
Click Here To Donate To My Delinquency
Github is at: https://github.com/msticninja/asus_kernel_tf101
Changelog:
Code:
1.0-Veno Add TCP_VENO as default ipv4 Congestion Control Method
1.0 Change suspend code to be closer to guevor's. Hopefully fix reboots again. Add post_boot exec for ARHD.
0.9 Change clk_disable_locked code to be closer to Nvidia source. Hopefully fix reboots.
0.8 Add BFQ, Over/Undervolt support, wifi patches, OC to 1704, etc.
0.7 Rebased off Asus March 29th Kernel Source. SIO/Init.d is now included in all kernels.
0.6 Fixed Wifi on CNA SIO Version(still getting the hang of using git branches, sorry)
0.5 Add Init.d support to ramdisk
0.4 Add SIO IO Scheduler
0.3 Add EOS Version
0.2 Add CNA/CM9/AOKP Version
0.1 Add OC and compile tweaks
Compatible with cyanogenmod?
psyk974 said:
Compatible with cyanogenmod?
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Depends. Try it. The worst thing will be that the wifi doesn't work. I'm working on the bcmdhd version for people with AOSP roms, that may use the same driver.
Thx. I will try it !
Thank you , but can u chack if the dock 2xUSB (removable disk) is working?
Because on every OC ICS kernel that i tried so far on the tf101 , the dock USB stop working
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Thx. I will try it !
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Let me know what happens. If anything isn't right, give me as much detail as you can.
i9apps said:
Thank you , but can u chack if the dock 2xUSB (removable disk) is working?
Because on every OC ICS kernel that i tried so far on the tf101 , the dock USB stop working
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Just checked with a couple of flash drives, works perfectly.
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Let me know what happens. If anything isn't right, give me as much detail as you can.
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Okay ! I inform you
msticninja said:
I just compiled this from my github, which is forked from Roach's(He's working on EOS, so I'm filling in the void for now, with his permission). It's working beautifully for me on stock ROM and ARHD so far, so here it is for testing. It can overclock to 1600Mhz, but doesn't override your user limit. Blades' test kernel "meh" overrides the user limit once the screen is off, which makes my TF reboot constantly. That's really the only reason I compiled my own kernel, but I know other people have this issue, and Roach said he doesn't have time to compile and post it for us. Thanks to Roach of course, and Blades, because I used his "meh" updater-script (because I forgot which partition the kernel was supposed to be dd'ed to.)
Install with CWM, (or Rogue(untested though))
Download:http://db.tt/wKQ6ho2h
This is still beta. You must have balls to flash this(metaphorically speaking). Don't rip mine off if you have to reflash something else.
Going to bed now. Will respond to responding responders in morning. Seriously. Me So Tired.
P.S. @guevor Didn't mean to post this right after you merged Roach's fix, we must've been compiling at the same time, little did we know.
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Dont forget the source or patches main rule !!!
Could you list the Core mV per frequency too please?
Jhinta said:
Dont forget the source or patches main rule !!!
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Grrr...lack of sleep. I thought I did. Appended.
cspiby said:
Could you list the Core mV per frequency too please?
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https://github.com/msticninja/asus_kernel_tf101/blob/d1da185880877e22c7881fe69d4cb650e7a84ba5/arch/arm/mach-tegra/tegra2_dvfs.c
Too sleepy to make a table out of it. I'll do it tomorrow if you can't figure it out from the source.
Just flashed the kernel , got a first reboot after 4 seconds
will try again now
i9apps said:
Just flashed the kernel , got a first reboot after 4 seconds
will try again now
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Like I said, if you have issues, give as much info as possible. ROM, frequency settings, etc. I only have one TF to test on, so you'll have help me out.
initd support?
drakal said:
initd support?
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Haven't had time yet, just made it for my own purposes originally. I'll put a new ramdisk together and repack tomorrow if someone else hasn't done it by then.
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Like I said, if you have issues, give as much info as possible. ROM, frequency settings, etc. I only have one TF to test on, so you'll have help me out.
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I am running Revolver rom 1600 GHz and the kernel not working for me , the tf freeze or reboot, on the other kernels i manage to OC to 1.68Ghz stable
i9apps said:
I am running Revolver rom 1600 GHz and the kernel not working for me , the tf freeze or reboot, on the other kernels i manage to OC to 1.68Ghz stable
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I haven't tested on Revolver. I didn't add init.d support yet, so it could be that. Can you run at lower frequencies without rebooting? Mine can't handle 1600 on any kernel, so I can't really troubleshoot that, but if it still reboots at 1000 or 1200, then it's probably a ROM incompatibility. We'll see if anyone else can test it on Revolver in the mean time.
Hi,
tested your kernel with CNA 1.5.5.3 sadly no wifi.
Now I'm back on stock
Greetings
Nice to see more kernels popping up
I would help you test it, but frankly Im not in the mood to troubleshoot (if needed) today
Been screaming at a PC all day that refused to work properly hehe
How to Remove the CPU Speed limit of 600Mhz on Android 2.2, When I use Andoird 2.3 on this Device [Commtiva Z51], I am able to Clock the CPU at ~800Mhz, I want to do this on Android 2.2, I have a rooted Device.
Maybe a CPU Tuner
I am sure you can find a free one on Google Play you should take a look.
akshatcool12345 said:
How to Remove the CPU Speed limit of 600Mhz on Android 2.2, When I use Andoird 2.3 on this Device [Commtiva Z51], I am able to Clock the CPU at ~800Mhz, I want to do this on Android 2.2, I have a rooted Device.
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What you are referring to is known as overclocking (oc)...in order to overclock, you need a custom kernel, since (mostly) the stock kernel doesnt support oc
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[Fyi, Android 2.3 is better than 2.2 in a lot of ways...]
I.AM.H3RO said:
I am sure you can find a free one on Google Play you should take a look.
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??? What are you trying to tell??
Typed using a small touchscreen
I already have No-frills CPU control from the play store and it works but not over 600Mhz and yes, it is Overclocking (OC), I am running a custom rom, Android 2.3 Roms are available but i am not using those as they drain the battery really fast (even without overclocking). It seams like it is a limitation with Android 2.2 as I have tried other Roms also and they too have the same problem.
No nothing like that...
Oc is kernel dependent...you can make an oc kernel for froyo also...
And if you oc, you will get faster battery drain, and maybe heat issues...
Typed using a small touchscreen
Overclocking
Currently I am using this Rom (Jellybean <link> slinkme.co.cc/jellybean <link> [Added like this as I cant add links now]) , As far as I know this supports overclocking. And also if this kernel does not support Overclocking, Can you give me a OC kernel for Android 2.2.1 (This Rom).
All devices are different, and so is their kernel/rom/etc....you cannot use stuff for my device on yours...
And jellybean is sypposed to be android 4.x/5...and not 2.2.1
Give me a screenshot of the stuff written in about phone...then maybe I can point you to the right direction...
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Jellybean is my Rom name, it is Android 2.2.1, I want a Kernel that Supports OC, Do you have one ? Android Jellybean is 4.1.
My Device : http:~//~slinkme.co.cc/mydevice (Remove ~ for the link)
My Rom : http:~//~slinkme.co.cc/jellybean (Remove ~ for the link)
Not very original calling it jelly bean
Sent from my GT-S5360 using XDA
Firstly, I just don't blankly visit random websites...
And secondly, I asked for screenshot for about phone...
If you want help, you've got to LET ME HELP!
Or just plain get ignored...
Typed using a small touchscreen
Just flash an overclock kernel, then install setcpu and overclock
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions &
Read the Forum Rules Ref Posting
Moving to Q&A
a.cid said:
Firstly, I just don't blankly visit random websites...
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That (slinkme.co.cc) is just a URL Shortener Website like goo.gl.....
a.cid said:
And secondly, I asked for screenshot for about phone...
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I have changed all that but you might need the kernel version so this is it...
Kernel Version: Apps_2.6.23.9
Crash_HF said:
Just flash an overclock kernel, then install setcpu and overclock
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I know that, Can you give me kernel that supports Overclocking..
I already have setCPU, No-Frills CPU Control, Antutu CPU Master..
Can anybody help me please !!
Sent from my Z71 using xda premium
i think you can use Set CPU. you can find its on google play or appstore.vn/a
the easiest way...ask your rom developer to make a kernel with OC support. you can't compile a kernel for your device and neither me since I don't even know what your device is.
thanhhai8888 said:
i think you can use Set CPU. you can find its on google play or appstore.vn/a
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I already have setCPU , No frills and antutu CPU master.
I need to flash a OC kernel to the device but I can't find one.
Sent from my Z71 using xda premium
akshatcool12345 said:
I already have setCPU , No frills and antutu CPU master.
I need to flash a OC kernel to the device but I can't find one.
Sent from my Z71 using xda premium
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You really should listen to these guys & ease up on the attitude. YOU'RE the one needing help and they really are trying.
What kind of PHONE do you have & ROM are you running? THAT determines the kernel.
Be carefull,
It can damage your device...
Hi Friends,
Was Roaming around all over Tamil nadu and with my Nikon taking precedence over mobile, was away from laptop for few weeks. Now am Back with a kernel. With JB development going in photon speed, it may luk odd with a development work in ICS. But for those who are still persisting in ICS, it may matter. It is still a beta version. It has only the features that are listed below. Planning to add more features soon.Test and let me know on Battery drain, Performance and Deep sleep.
Features:
Based on Samsung ICS Update 2 Source
eMMC brick bug disabled
Pre-rooted
Overclocked - Currently added 1.2 Ghz alone
RAM Hack - Thanks to Adi_Pat
Governors - Conservative, Interactive and Performance
Schedulers - Noop, Deadline and CFQ
BLN Support with liblights - Thanks to Adam77Root
Custom Boot Animation Supported
Few Ramdisk tweaks
Auto-brightness fix - Thanks to Ardatdat
Voodoo sound patch
Download - Dropbox
Features working on:
Intermediate frequencies for OC
Custom Voltage
Memory Management and Misc tweaks
Kernel Source - Github
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Is this exclusive for mazel rom?
Or can we use this in stock ics?
Just flashed the kernel. For some reason unable to use WiFi. Not being detected. Initial reactions: pretty smooth. I'm on bb rom. Will test for a while and update.
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drarunmmc said:
Is this exclusive for mazel rom?
Or can we use this in stock ics?
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it can be used on any ice based rom:screwy:
HIt tHnX iF i hElP u
Sent from my GALAXY RoYaL
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buddy I used ur kernel , but the battery life is terrible,
I think it is because of oc , I set it to 1ghz but for some reason it stays in 1.2ghz, I checked in CPU spy...
so my suggestion is to delete the oc because no one is using it
although with this kernel the phone runs very smooth and snappy
HIt tHnX iF i hElP u
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Thank you selva for the effort buddy:beer: so
used the kernel for a while.
Pros
1. Deep sleep perfect
2. Zero game lag. Tried with Subway surfers
3. Silky smooth
Cons
1. WiFi not working/connecting even after wiping cache/dalvik.
As I don't have much 2g data left for this month reverting back to ardatdat beta 6.
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@amar I set the set cpu to 1ghz only and rebooted buddy. It did not go to 1.2
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I used rom toolbox before and now I use set CPU everything is fine now and I also try temple run no glitches whatsoever
btw Selva buddy can u release two kernels one with oc and the other without oc......
HIt tHnX iF i hElP u
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buddy I used ur kernel , but the battery life is terrible,
I think it is because of oc , I set it to 1ghz but for some reason it stays in 1.2ghz, I checked in CPU spy...
so my suggestion is to delete the oc because no one is using it
although with this kernel the phone runs very smooth and snappy
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amar1548 said:
I used rom toolbox before and now I use set CPU everything is fine now and I also try temple run no glitches whatsoever
btw Selva buddy can u release two kernels one with oc and the other without oc......
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Battery Life, yes it may be terrible as its only beta version. Its not because of OC. Its because i have not included all the tweaks needed for battery life. Still its in testing stage. Reason for including OC and having only 1.2 ghz is to test whether its preventing the game lag. Generally when i OC with limits and intermediate ranges as 1.1, 1.2 and 1.3, mostly the mobile clock in 1.1 ghz and very rarely going to 1.2 ghz. So i skipped 1.1 and included only 1.2 ghz.. Just a testing.
Will you add BFQ scheduler at a later stage? I have good experience with that and have been using it since I moved permanently to CM.
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Adam77Root said:
Will you add BFQ scheduler at a later stage? I have good experience with that and have been using it since I moved permanently to CM.
Sent from my CM10-powered GT-I9103
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Have not thought about it. Will check on it once im done with other basic stuffs. Surely will get in touch with u when including the scheduler.
MaZel Kernel v1.0 Beta-2
MaZel Kernel Beta-2 has been uploaded in dropbox.
Features added:
Auto Brightness fix
Voodoo Sound patch
Few tweaks
Please test and let me know guys.
Regarding the annoying lags and freezes in ICS, could this kernel for the Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 be of any help : http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1950052 ?
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Regarding the annoying lags and freezes in ICS, could this kernel for the Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 be of any help : http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1950052 ?
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Problem with the link u provided buddy...Returns 404....few users reported that with this kernel, they didn't get lags...You can try and let us know..
selva.simple said:
Problem with the link u provided buddy...Returns 404....few users reported that with this kernel, they didn't get lags...You can try and let us know..
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Let's try again : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1950052 - it's a "fixed" kernel by codeworkx for the Galaxy Tab 2 10.1, my other device, which also had serious lags and freezes in ICS as our Galaxy R. Hope there is magic you can add from that to your kernel.
Ok now..included intermediate freq of 1100 and then the BFQ scheduler as suggested by Adam. Getting few compiler errors for BFQ. Will check it tomorrow.
And finally setup the environment for AOSP build. As Ubuntu 12.04 was not supporting all the branches to do AOSP build (though its gud for kernels), now setup a diff environment using 10.04. Will Start init/sync tomorrow.
Nice work buddy! You can spare a lot of upload bandwidth by adding a '.gitignore' file. It tells git to ignore the specified files so they will not be pushed. Get one (specified for kernels) here: https://github.com/Adam77Root/android_kernel_samsung_i9103/blob/jellybean/.gitignore
Adam77Root said:
Nice work buddy! You can spare a lot of upload bandwidth by adding a '.gitignore' file. It tells git to ignore the specified files so they will not be pushed. Get one (specified for kernels) here: https://github.com/Adam77Root/android_kernel_samsung_i9103/blob/jellybean/.gitignore
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Thanks a lot buddy. I surely need tat because of my poor data bandwidth.
Testers needed for CM10 kernel
Friends,
Need some testers for a new CM10 kernel. I have not even tried it as im doing some testing with ICS kernel in my device. So those who are about to test, have a back-up and then test this kernel. No special features added yet. Just wanna check whether its boots-up in cm10.
Link - MaZel CM10 Kernel
Sooo...did you find anything useful in that blamesamsung kernel : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1950052 ?