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So, I have done a lot of research and I am hung up on one bit.
I have the stock RUU file on my PC.
I also have superCID . I am rooted with S-OFF
Think i used Revolutionary etc. Currently using ARHD 6.8.0
I want to return to Full Stock with S-ON. I looked at this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
But it doesn't say if I need to change my CID back to VODAP001 before or after (Or at all) I flash the Stock RUU. <hope that makes sense?
Could anyone help me?
I basically have the RUU. and need to know about the CID. Does it need to be changed?
Thanks
Just seen this actually
I can confirm SuperCID is successful as i just flashed a Tmous Rom (1.25.***) to my EU unbranded device to check. (added t-mobile tv and other carrier stuff to my apps list)
Does ^ this mean I can run the RUU with my SUPER CID?
Then just S-On once done??
thanks again.
pike0 said:
I can confirm SuperCID is successful as i just flashed a Tmous Rom (1.25.***) to my EU unbranded device to check. (added t-mobile tv and other carrier stuff to my apps list)
Does ^ this mean I can run the RUU with my SUPER CID?
Then just S-On once done??
thanks again.
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Hi,
If you are returning your phone for warranty purposes,you need to return your SuperCID to normal.
This should be done after running your RUU,but before going back to s-on.
Look HERE for more information.
pike0 said:
I can confirm SuperCID is successful as i just flashed a Tmous Rom (1.25.***) to my EU unbranded device to check. (added t-mobile tv and other carrier stuff to my apps list)
Does ^ this mean I can run the RUU with my SUPER CID?
Then just S-On once done??
thanks again.
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you can flash any ruu when you have supercid(that means S-OFF also)
this guide will help you more
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1672425
but read carefully about returning to S-ON
rzr86 said:
you can flash any ruu when you have supercid(that means S-OFF also)
this guide will help you more
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1672425
but read carefully about returning to S-ON
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Cool, well the RUU I have will need the VODAP001 *** (I think it's that, will check before I attempt lol)
So I flash the RUU then I can use this:
Code:
fastboot oem writecid ******* Replacing the *'s with the CID I need.
Once done, can then return to S-ON
pike0 said:
Cool, well the RUU I have will need the VODAP001 *** (I think it's that, will check before I attempt lol)
So I flash the RUU then I can use this:
Code:
fastboot oem writecid ******* Replacing the *'s with the CID I need.
Once done, can then return to S-ON
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also about S-ON read carefully what it is saying about bootloader
your bootloader must be LOCKED, RELOCKED or UNLOCKED otherwise don't do S-ON
rzr86 said:
also about S-ON read carefully what it is saying about bootloader
your bootloader must be LOCKED, RELOCKED or UNLOCKED otherwise don't do S-ON
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Was just about to post. Successfully flashed the RUU and changed CID to VODAP001, phone boots and works fine!!!
But in bootloader it doesn't mention, locked, unlocked or relocked.
Previously to the Update, it said ***LOCKED***
Now I got just this:
Pyramid PVT Ship S-OFF RL
HBOOT-1.17.0006
RADIO-10.11.9007.09_M2
eMMC-boot
What do I need to do to S-ON???
Thanks
pike0 said:
Was just about to post. Successfully flashed the RUU and changed CID to VODAP001, phone boots and works fine!!!
But in bootloader it doesn't mention, locked, unlocked or relocked.
Previously to the Update, it said ***LOCKED***
Now I got just this:
Pyramid PVT Ship S-OFF RL
HBOOT-1.17.0006
RADIO-10.11.9007.09_M2
eMMC-boot
What do I need to do to S-ON???
Thanks
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if your bootloader says locked now(as you are mentioning) then you can continue with S-ON
edit:what to do for S-ON?
from the same guide it has a tutorial for it
but i think it is a simple command and then you are done
rzr86 said:
if your bootloader says locked now(as you are mentioning) then you can continue with S-ON
edit:what to do for S-ON?
from the same guide it has a tutorial for it
but i think it is a simple command and then you are done
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Sorry, I actually mean, before I restored the RUU it said locked. Now it doesnt mention anything.
It no longer says that, or unlocked / relocked.
So I haven't proceeded with the S-ON command.
pike0 said:
Sorry, I actually mean, before I restored the RUU it said locked. Now it doesnt mention anything.
It no longer says that, or unlocked / relocked.
So I haven't proceeded with the S-ON command.
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hmm,
i don't know about that
it is better to ask for that in the ruu thread
someone will know
rzr86 said:
hmm,
i don't know about that
it is better to ask for that in the ruu thread
someone will know
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Say I still have S-OFF but everything else is back to stock. What steps would I need to take to root, custom recovery & ROM again?
Thanks
pike0 said:
Say I still have S-OFF but everything else is back to stock. What steps would I need to take to root, custom recovery & ROM again?
Thanks
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Hi,
Flash recovery of choice.
Flash root.
Flash custom ROM.
malybru said:
Hi,
Flash recovery of choice.
Flash root.
Flash custom ROM.
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Recovery is the PMG...zip is that correct?
Thanks for all the help
pike0 said:
Recovery is the PMG...zip is that correct?
Thanks for all the help
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Hi,
Look HERE
2. Flashing a recovery
4A. Flashing Root
malybru said:
Hi,
Look HERE
2. Flashing a recovery
4A. Flashing Root
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Many thanks! Would it make a difference if my phone is already S-OFF??
pike0 said:
Many thanks! Would it make a difference if my phone is already S-OFF??
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Hi,
No.
If you ran a RUU,then,everything would have returned to stock.
S-off is not affected.
So,to get back up and running,you will need to do all these things again.
here's the details to my phone
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*** TAMPERED ***
*** UNLOCKED ***
VLE PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-2.13.0000
RADIO-1.11.50.05.28
OpenDSP-v31.1.0.45.0815
eMMC-boot
Nov 20 2012,15:44:03:-1
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could someone please help me find a stock rom for my HTC ONE S as i deleted my os im running TWRP v2.5.0.0 i can boot into recovery just not the system os thanks and if you do find one could you please tell me how to install it as my previous experiences are terrifying
Zaman-The-Man said:
here's the details to my phone
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*** TAMPERED ***
*** UNLOCKED ***
VLE PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT-2.13.0000
RADIO-1.11.50.05.28
OpenDSP-v31.1.0.45.0815
eMMC-boot
Nov 20 2012,15:44:03:-1
-----------------------------------------------
could someone please help me find a stock rom for my HTC ONE S as i deleted my os im running TWRP v2.5.0.0 i can boot into recovery just not the system os thanks and if you do find one could you please tell me how to install it as my previous experiences are terrifying
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if you are unbranded take this!
http://www.androidfiles.org/ruu/securekey.php?file=Ville/RUU_Ville_U_JB_45_S_HTC_Europe_3.16.401.8_Radio_1.11.50.05.28_10.27.50.08L_release_301814_signed_2_4.exe
flash the stock recovery to your phone and relock your bootloader to install the ruu.
stock recovery:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/btmsslfgbwegu2k/ville_recovery_signed.img
I recommend you to s-off your device, it makes everything easier for you.
I also recommend you to do a factory reset after flashing the ruu.
so:
1. flash stock recovery
2. relock your bootloader (fastboot oem lock)
3. run the ruu
4. factory reset
5. be happy to have the stock rom back
thanks
NQNH said:
if you are unbranded take this!
http://www.androidfiles.org/ruu/securekey.php?file=Ville/RUU_Ville_U_JB_45_S_HTC_Europe_3.16.401.8_Radio_1.11.50.05.28_10.27.50.08L_release_301814_signed_2_4.exe
flash the stock recovery to your phone and relock your bootloader to install the ruu.
stock recovery:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/btmsslfgbwegu2k/ville_recovery_signed.img
I recommend you to s-off your device, it makes everything easier for you.
I also recommend you to do a factory reset after flashing the ruu.
so:
1. flash stock recovery
2. relock your bootloader (fastboot oem lock)
3. run the ruu
4. factory reset
5. be happy to have the stock rom back
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what do you mean be unbranded ?
and is it better to just install a custom rom and if i relock the bootloader can i just unlock it later
Zaman-The-Man said:
what do you mean be unbranded ?
and is it better to just install a custom rom and if i relock the bootloader can i just unlock it later
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unbranded = you can use every carrier
branded = you can only use e.g. vodafone
it depends on your needs which custom rom you want to use.
if you only want a stable phone the stock rom should be enough.
trickdroid and viper one s are good too.
if you like to experiment a little and can life with bugs cm 10.1 and the other aosp (pure android) based roms should be good too.
and there is a thanks button for giving me a thanks hope I could help you
and yes if you are relocked you can unlock again, just follow the same steps again (flash unlock.bin etc.)
ruu only will run if the bootloader is unlocked (if you have s-off it doesnt matter)
NQNH said:
unbranded = you can use every carrier
branded = you can only use e.g. vodafone
it depends on your needs which custom rom you want to use.
if you only want a stable phone the stock rom should be enough.
trickdroid and viper one s are good too.
if you like to experiment a little and can life with bugs cm 10.1 and the other aosp (pure android) based roms should be good too.
and there is a thanks button for giving me a thanks hope I could help you
and yes if you are relocked you can unlock again, just follow the same steps again (flash unlock.bin etc.)
ruu only will run if the bootloader is unlocked (if you have s-off it doesnt matter)
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im branded so what do i do i locked to three UK
Zaman-The-Man said:
im branded so what do i do i locked to three UK
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Then you usually do a search on google, entering 'ville hboot 2.13' an you'll find this thread.
After reading that you follow this link: click me
Zaman-The-Man said:
im branded so what do i do i locked to three UK
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uhm... as far as I know we only got the branding free JB ruu.
the other will not work because you alreade have the new hboot.
I think the best would be to follow the S-off guide and change your CID to a brandingfree one (HTC__001)
this also has the advantage that you will get updates sooner than the branded one and you can use every sim now.
if you follow the guide carefully and step by step it shouldnt be that difficult
the s-off procedure itself only takes ~5-10min
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155135
gj
NQNH said:
uhm... as far as I know we only got the branding free JB ruu.
the other will not work because you alreade have the new hboot.
I think the best would be to follow the S-off guide and change your CID to a brandingfree one (HTC__001)
this also has the advantage that you will get updates sooner than the branded one and you can use every sim now.
if you follow the guide carefully and step by step it shouldnt be that difficult
the s-off procedure itself only takes ~5-10min
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2155135
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btw my bootloader is locked is that a problem
Zaman-The-Man said:
btw my bootloader is locked is that a problem
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unlock it again
NQNH said:
unlock it again
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its to complicated for me i probably going to well and truly brick my phone is there any other easier noob friendly ways ?
Zaman-The-Man said:
its to complicated for me i probably going to well and truly brick my phone is there any other easier noob friendly ways ?
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uhm... its difficlt because of your hboot.
give rootrides advice a try
the s-off procedure is a little bit tricky but not impossible and since you have s-off you wont regret it it makes many things easier.
good luck, i have to go to bed
rootrider said:
Then you usually do a search on google, entering 'ville hboot 2.13' an you'll find this thread.
After reading that you follow this link: click me
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Please could you help me find it ?
I have HBOOT 2.13 ( T-Mobile UK branded) and was able to S-OFF the phone without any issues. You can search for 3 UK branded RUUs on http://androidfiles.org/ruu. If the RUU is for a lower software version, S-OFF will allow you to downgrade.
Sent from my HTC One S using Tapatalk 2
usaff22 said:
I have HBOOT 2.13 ( T-Mobile UK branded) and was able to S-OFF the phone without any issues. You can search for 3 UK branded RUUs on androfiles.org/ruu. If the RUU is for a lower software version, S-OFF will allow you to downgrade.
Sent from my HTC One S using Tapatalk 2
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how do i know which ruu is mine and how do i downgrade with s off
Zaman-The-Man said:
how do i know which ruu is mine and how do i downgrade with s off
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http://androidfiles.org/ruu/?developer=Ville
The 3 UK files are the RUUs which are labelled H3G.
Once you have S-OFF you can just run a lower RUU than your current software version and it will downgrade.
Without S-OFF it won't work though.
usaff22 said:
http://androidfiles.org/ruu/?developer=Ville
The 3 UK files are the RUUs which are labelled H3G.
Once you have S-OFF you can just run a lower RUU than your current software version and it will downgrade.
Without S-OFF it won't work though.
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how can i s off my phone if i cant even start it up ? i tried custom roms and stuff
usaff22 said:
I have HBOOT 2.13 ( T-Mobile UK branded) and was able to S-OFF the phone without any issues. You can search for 3 UK branded RUUs on http://androidfiles.org/ruu. If the RUU is for a lower software version, S-OFF will allow you to downgrade.
Sent from my HTC One S using Tapatalk 2
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i cant s off as i cant install super user . so i cant do SUPERCID . i have been told to flash stock revoery relock bootloader recovery and runn the ruu for my phone
so can i find one for my phone ? or can someone tell me how to flash a custom rom which works as it always fails to boot up ? and do i need to flash boot.img
Yes, you need to fastboot the boot.img from the ROM zip you are flashing.
Also, don't use twrp 2.4 or higher. Use lower or cwm.
HTC_One_S | S-OFF | DeviantXone_2.0 | Twisted_III
Hey guys I just used a custom ROM and flash boot.IMG can I ask if I pay to get my phone unlocked could I use a unbranded RUU? Thanks
my phone run "villec2-jb-4.1.1-deodexed" i down ruu som and run but it faill 155, phone show hboot orlder?????? ruu is ics
who can help me fixx??? thank!!! so much sorry bad english
daothuan said:
my phone run "villec2-jb-4.1.1-deodexed" i down ruu som and run but it faill 155, phone show hboot orlder?????? ruu is ics
who can help me fixx??? thank!!! so much sorry bad english
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relock your bootloader before you run the RUU
tivofool said:
relock your bootloader before you run the RUU
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i did, but it faillll have tips ??????
daothuan said:
i did, but it faillll have tips ??????
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is there a newer RUU that you can run on your device?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2094414
The only tips that I have are
put back stock recovery on your phone if you have changed it. (you will have to unlock bootloader to do this)
relock bootloader.
OH, and one time even though usb debugging was checked on the phone, I had to uncheck it and check it again before the ruu worked.
Will relocking bootloader automatically restore stock recovery? Cause I am trying to return to stock from S-off back to S-on and I am following this guide but in the HTC One S toolkit, the recovery section doesn't have a stock recovery to flash. I can use some help with this also, I want to see if returning phone to stock will fix signal drop issues and if not I will have to return it on insurance. My biggest problems are I do not have an RUU from my carrier so could use some advice as to which one to use? here is the link for RUU's but there isn't one for Cincinnati Bell wireless.
You need S-OFF
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk HD
Hi guys,
I'm from Portugal and this is my first thread in this forum.
Sorry for my poor english.
I have a htc One Sv (K2) jb 4.1.2 rooted and relocked!!! S-on
Like many others out there I tought htc wouldn't update the software, so I went the root road.
With the recent news saying that htc was going to release jb 4.2.2 do my device, I did what I tought to be the most logical thing:
- relock the bootloader
- install the stock RUU (RUU_K2_UL_JB_45_S_HTC_Europe_2.14.401.6)
- start hiting the "update software" button
- enjoy!
It was easy to relock the bootloader! (fast boot oem lock)
After 2 days of hard search in almost every sites and forums I couldn't find the RUU.
I tryied unsigned RUU's, but with S-On it's impossible.
I heard of FaceOff and Moonshine, but I think you need to have unlocked bootloader to attempt S-Off.
Now, fastboot flash oem unlock_code.bin doesn't work anymore!!!
Tampered
Relocked
K2_UL S-On
hboot 2.00.0000
Radio 1.15.40a.00.04
You're my only hope!!!
We don't have htc support here in Portugal.
Thanks
Miro
mirocosta said:
Hi guys,
I'm from Portugal and this is my first thread in this forum.
Sorry for my poor english.
I have a htc One Sv (K2) jb 4.1.2 rooted and relocked!!! S-on
Like many others out there I tought htc wouldn't update the software, so I went the root road.
With the recent news saying that htc was going to release jb 4.2.2 do my device, I did what I tought to be the most logical thing:
- relock the bootloader
- install the stock RUU (RUU_K2_UL_JB_45_S_HTC_Europe_2.14.401.6)
- start hiting the "update software" button
- enjoy!
It was easy to relock the bootloader! (fast boot oem lock)
After 2 days of hard search in almost every sites and forums I couldn't find the RUU.
I tryied unsigned RUU's, but with S-On it's impossible.
I heard of FaceOff and Moonshine, but I think you need to have unlocked bootloader to attempt S-Off.
Now, fastboot flash oem unlock_code.bin doesn't work anymore!!!
Tampered
Relocked
K2_UL S-On
hboot 2.00.0000
Radio 1.15.40a.00.04
You're my only hope!!!
yoyjb. Tale ahave htc support here in Portugal.
Thanks
Miro
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Did you have just stock root? If you didnt delete any system apps, and got back the origibal recovery, you just have to wait for the update to come. If not, i would suggest to get s-off to original ruu ics and then update to jb. Take a look the various threads on how to do it
gibihr said:
Did you have just stock root? If you didnt delete any system apps, and got back the origibal recovery, you just have to wait for the update to come. If not, i would suggest to get s-off to original ruu ics and then update to jb. Take a look the various threads on how to do it
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Yes, stock root. No apps deleted.
The phone came with jb.
How to unlock bootloader again? It says "signature fail"
mirocosta said:
Hi guys,
I'm from Portugal and this is my first thread in this forum.
Sorry for my poor english.
I have a htc One Sv (K2) jb 4.1.2 rooted and relocked!!! S-on
Like many others out there I tought htc wouldn't update the software, so I went the root road.
With the recent news saying that htc was going to release jb 4.2.2 do my device, I did what I tought to be the most logical thing:
- relock the bootloader
- install the stock RUU (RUU_K2_UL_JB_45_S_HTC_Europe_2.14.401.6)
- start hiting the "update software" button
- enjoy!
It was easy to relock the bootloader! (fast boot oem lock)
After 2 days of hard search in almost every sites and forums I couldn't find the RUU.
I tryied unsigned RUU's, but with S-On it's impossible.
I heard of FaceOff and Moonshine, but I think you need to have unlocked bootloader to attempt S-Off.
Now, fastboot flash oem unlock_code.bin doesn't work anymore!!!
Tampered
Relocked
K2_UL S-On
hboot 2.00.0000
Radio 1.15.40a.00.04
You're my only hope!!!
We don't have htc support here in Portugal.
Thanks
Miro
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the correct command is
fastboot flash unlocktoken Unlock_code.bin
russellvone said:
the correct command is
fastboot flash unlocktoken Unlock_code.bin
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Thanks man!!!!!
Unlocked again!!!!
Now I'm going to try to get S-off.
Whish me good luck!!!
mirocosta said:
Thanks man!!!!!
Unlocked again!!!!
Now I'm going to try to get S-off.
Whish me good luck!!!
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good luck buddy.
hope all goes well!
:thumbup:
Ok, guys, i think that i made a big mistake, i was helping to restore to stock the HTC evita of a friend. We download the latest RUU from att, relocked and run. the problem was, that we didnt check it if there was super cid. and it have it. BUT, usually if there is a brick i cant enter to bootloader right? I can enter in bootloader, and show
Relocked
EVITA PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT- 2.18.0000
RADIO-1.35a.32.45.27
OPENDSP-v33.1.0.45.1127
eMMC-boot
Dec 3 2013,17,10,01:1
The phone has supecid: (bootloader) cid: 11111111
I know that usually is a brick, but i can enter the bootloader (i did a clearstorage but still bootloop) I dont want to make it worse. so any advice to fix it? I was thinking about unlocking again bootloader but probably it cause a brick? I read that the brick is unlocked bootloader + supercid +s-on, but the bootloader was relocket so maybe that save the device?. Any advice would be great
lorddavid said:
Ok, guys, i think that i made a big mistake, i was helping to restore to stock the HTC evita of a friend. We download the latest RUU from att, relocked and run. the problem was, that we didnt check it if there was super cid. and it have it. BUT, usually if there is a brick i cant enter to bootloader right? I can enter in bootloader, and show
Relocked
EVITA PVT SHIP S-ON RL
HBOOT- 2.18.0000
RADIO-1.35a.32.45.27
OPENDSP-v33.1.0.45.1127
eMMC-boot
Dec 3 2013,17,10,01:1
The phone has supecid: (bootloader) cid: 11111111
I know that usually is a brick, but i can enter the bootloader (i did a clearstorage but still bootloop) I dont want to make it worse. so any advice to fix it? I was thinking about unlocking again bootloader but probably it cause a brick? I read that the brick is unlocked bootloader + supercid +s-on, but the bootloader was relocket so maybe that save the device?. Any advice would be great
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I think you need to unlock your bootloader and get S-off to proceed with RUU because you have superCid.
sathish804 said:
I think you need to unlock your bootloader and get S-off to proceed with RUU because you have superCid.
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yes, the problem is that i cant load a rom, I mean, its bootloop. If i unlock bootloader and flash a recovery will be ok? I mean, i fear that unlocking bootloader brick my phone because I ran RUU with supercid
Unlock the bootloader again, flash TWRP recovery again, flash a custom ROM, get s-off, then you can run any RUU you want.
Sent from my Evita
ok, i unlock the bootloader, I'm trying to enter hboot again because the volumebutton ihave little damage. thanks If something happen i will report back.
PD: S-off can i do it with an aosp rom? Or need a sense rom?
It shouldn't really matter, I've done it on both.
Facepalm S-off
Sent from my Evita
Doesn't the Evita need to be s off to run a ruu, and with a locked bootloader?
Sent from my One X using Tapatalk
marknoll said:
Doesn't the Evita need to be s off to run a ruu, and with a locked bootloader?
Sent from my One X using Tapatalk
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No, but running any jb+ RUU with s-on and SuperCID causes a brick. Plus, if you have SuperCID, you need s-off to bypass the CID check that stops the RUU from running.
Sent from my Evita
timmaaa said:
No, but running any jb+ RUU with s-on and SuperCID causes a brick. Plus, if you have SuperCID, you need s-off to bypass the CID check that stops the RUU from running.
Sent from my Evita
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Uff, finally, but TWPR is weird, flash a lot in splash screen :/ but after a while works. I was thinking that i had a brick because i was s-on and supercid. I had a aosp rom, so right now I will do s off. Thanks so much
PD: Right know is in the boot screen of PAC ROM. The hboot doesnt matter for an aosp rom right?
You probably need to read the Evita FAQ thread in my signature.
Sent from my Evita
timmaaa said:
You probably need to read the Evita FAQ thread in my signature.
Sent from my Evita
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yes i did, is not the first time that i install a custom rom in a htc, i flash the boot.img and everything, but had some weird problems, I will try philz recovery now (TWPR sometimes flash a lot in the splash screen, or freeze or just works normal). and i will download another rom just to be sure.
Ok, its finnish, thanks so much. First the RUU close with an error, but i tried in another account of my pc and works (the same error was before when everything start, is funny, maybe thats save my phone from a brick because I was s-on with supercid :/ )
Thanks so much again for the help