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It's been a tough haul for me with Tmobile/Samsung Galaxy phones. I started with a Vibrant with its GPS problems. After two T-mobile Vibrant swap outs and various software updates that accomplished little, they swapped for a SGS4G.
The SGS4G was no better on GPS and T-mobile wouldn't swap to anything else.
I never had a data contract, just used wifi for data. Last week I jumped on the $30 unlimited data prepaid plan. Well it turns out my SGS4G won't get cell data, not on Froyo not on Gingerbread.
So T-mobile now offers me a swap for another SGS4G or a LG-G2X or a HTC Sensation 4G. I'm posting here in case anyone with SGS4G experience also has some with the other phones.
It seems to me that its obvious I should switch. Both the LG and HTC are dual core and the Samsung is not. HTC has already committed to ICS on it, and LG has at least said the no ICS for G2X rumor has no basis. We all know Samsung is incredibly slow at updates, and their certainly is skepticism in this forum that they will ever have ICS for the SGS4G.
As to which to switch to, I'm not sure. The ICS commitment by HTC is certainly a plus. After my experience with Samsung my main issues are:
-- A well working GPS
-- Timely software updates
-- A potent hacking community
Any comments to help me decide?
I'd say get the sensation, i would if i ever got the chance. This phone is a great phone, don't get me wrong, but i just like the sensation. Never had an lg so i have no clue what that phone brings. I got this phone not knowing about XDA and modding. Once i found out about those, i kinda regretted getting this phone, but now things are better since we have official gingerbread and a great community that's here to help. I'm getting off topic now, so to answer your question, I'd say the sensation. OR you can stick with this phone and see what the future brings.
Hope i helped.
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I definitely agree. Sensations commitment to ICS is good enough for me but the hardware facts just beat out the sgs 4g. I do like the sgs 4g screen and resolution tho. But other than that, get sensation. My mom (I'm only 17 so i haven't moved out ) has it and I've been able to play with it. Hands down just a better phone. And i regret getting the phone too. This is my first android and did me soooo much justice, but for Modding and rooting it just isn't exactly the best. Sensation all the way. Hope I helped
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Yea the sensation should be your choice..I bought this phone without the intention of rooting it or anything,also I lost my last one so i needed a phone quick..if i knew the info i know now,i would of had another phone like maybe the mytouch 4g..So yea in short make the switch,easy.
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Samsung has neglected this phone in terms of updates. The Sensation is great if you want ICS, if that's not the biggest deal to you I'd get the Samsung Galaxy SII, as Samsung phones are well built, but with any Samsung phone don't expect an update within any timely manner.
I would get anything.g that could run CM. wink.
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I would get anything.g that could run CM. wink.
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Word lol
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G2X since it initially has a better battery because of AOSP and it always will get any CM before Sensation.
I want a swap sooo bad.
Get a sensation and sell it and youll be able to buy the sgs4g or the g2x and have extra cash.
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Man if I could switch. .. then again just about anyone would say that ;p
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what are some excuses or reasons I could give Tmobile for a swap??
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what are some excuses or reasons I could give Tmobile for a swap??
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+1 me too.
oh and get the sensation. Even though I think you already knew that before you posted this thread just to make all of us jelous
I owned a g2x and it was bad. Very very bad. It was also the first batch of them. I hear they fixed a lot of the issues. I own a sgs4g and a sensation. The sensation has more options Rom and kernel wise. Speed wise my sgs4g with all its mods is just as fast. The sgs4g seems to have faster data speeds. The screen on the sgs4g is better. If custom roms and mods are what your after get the sensation. Performance wise a properly set up sgs4g may have a slight edge do to data speed. The sensation is confirmed to be getting ics as well a.d they are working on a port as well. Hope that helps.
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what are some excuses or reasons I could give Tmobile for a swap??
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Need good excuses
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G2x for a faster phone with a good screen and speakers.
Sensation for ROM's and Sense.
But you can't really go wrong with either one. Good luck.
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I'm kicking myself. After they offered me the Sensation or G2X, I waited a week to make a choice and get past Thanksgiving. When I called back their database had changed and would only offer another SGS4G.
Apparently the database changes from time to time based on factors I can only guess. They said that at the moment for a Vibrant they had multiple choices.
That sucks. Big time.
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I'm kicking myself. After they offered me the Sensation or G2X, I waited a week to make a choice and get past Thanksgiving. When I called back their database had changed and would only offer another SGS4G.
Apparently the database changes from time to time based on factors I can only guess. They said that at the moment for a Vibrant they had multiple choices.
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Mannnnn, that sucks. I would have jumped on the Sensation or G2x the second they asked me.
The SGS4G is good for what it is, but it's been highly gimped on the dev side and has no CM love.
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Hi guys I've been using X10 for enough time now -nearly 8 months- and want to change
I have three offers now
Infuse 4G
LG G2x (+25$)
Atrix. (+50$)
I'm asking you what wud u prefer in terms of Hardware,performance.,Style and UI and most importantly "development"?
Also It will be unlocked to use in egypt.should I unlock it again each time I flash ROM/kernel or bootloader?
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romasalah said:
Hi guys I've been using X10 for enough time now -nearly 8 months- and want to change
I have three offers now
Infuse 4G
LG G2x (+25$)
Atrix. (+50$)
I'm asking you what wud u prefer in terms of Hardware,performance.,Style and UI and most importantly "development"?
Also It will be unlocked to use in egypt.should I unlock it again each time I flash ROM/kernel or bootloader?
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Out of those 3, the G2x is probably your best bet. All of those phones work fine on Egypt? The bands I mean.
Yes after unlocking it will work on GSM 900&1800
But sholud I reunlock the SIM each time I flash a ROM?
I've read that tegra2 with Nvidia is slower than OMAP4 in optimus 3D is that right?
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Sup guys..im an evo owner now. But im thinkin bout buyin a g2x and switching to straight talk.
Whats you guys opinion on the g2x?
Whats great and wrong with the phone?
I heard the touch screen is unsensitive..is this true??
Anybody have experience with straight talk?
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r.storm85 said:
Sup guys..im an evo owner now. But im thinkin bout buyin a g2x and switching to straight talk.
Whats you guys opinion on the g2x?
Whats great and wrong with the phone?
I heard the touch screen is unsensitive..is this true??
Anybody have experience with straight talk?
Thanks forum
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What u heard is wrong. The phone is good. For me, only thing it lacks is a fully stable ics rom. The phone is fast. And battery is above decent on high use. I'm at like 15 hours and 6%
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r.storm85 said:
Sup guys..im an evo owner now. But im thinkin bout buyin a g2x and switching to straight talk.
Whats you guys opinion on the g2x?
Whats great and wrong with the phone?
I heard the touch screen is unsensitive..is this true??
Anybody have experience with straight talk?
Thanks forum
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It's a amazing phone. Ics is nearly there. I recommend it. Dual core is very nice.
My touch can be iffy at times, but I enjoy it regardless
Overheating is something you've gotta watch especially with hdmi plugged in
Overall 8/10
Recommendation: yes
Development:7/10
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Cool thanx guys for the replys..anybody run MIUI? Hows the port??
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Cool thanx guys for the replys..anybody run MIUI? Hows the port??
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I'm not a fan of miui, but if you'd like look through the dev section and I can take a spin of anything ya like
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MIUI is alright but not fully functional and has its quirks, I;d suggest staying away from it and stick to a CM7 base to get the best out of the G2X.
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MIUI is alright but not fully functional and has its quirks, I;d suggest staying away from it and stick to a CM7 base to get the best out of the G2X.
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Really..wut doesnt work??
All ive run is MIUI for 6 months. Dont know if i could go back to CM7
main thing for me is WiFi calling, Cm7 is just 10X more stable, I like the swipe notifications from cm7, camera is more stable on cm7. It is actually supported by people and has Dev support, not knocking on syngh or the galnet or scotland builders, but it has too many flaws. I haven't run it over 3ish months for more then 2 hours (about 1 month ago, and it was just to wonky for me.) It's been too long for me to list the issues I noticed, but the UI is amazing I wish it was fully supported for us, or if a phone could be purchased on contract with MIUI pre-built then I'd jump on it lol.
This phone has excellent development and good hardware. I also hear good things about the new stock baseband/software but haven't tried it yet. It's a great phone if you like to flash ROMs. The physical build quality is also much better than other phones, I just got an SGS2 and the G2X seems much more solid.
Love this phone but if u can get a newer phone go for one those instead of this.
If money really isn't an issue and your renewing your contract wait for the Samsung galaxy 3
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No im goin prepaid..gonna go on straight talk or tmobile prepaid or tmobile value plan
I really have no urge to upgrade. I love my evo with miui and if i get another phone ill just put miui on it again so the only upgrade would be smoother and better camera. Cause the software is gonna be the same.
Wish i could put my evo on one of the above but i cant ;(
Its a good fun really fun to trick out yea the overheating is the only problem runs good overall
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OK just because wifi calling doesn't work doesn't mean to "stay away from it".
Just say you don't like miui at all, there's plenty of ports/miui to play with go for it
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fabricatedhero said:
If money really isn't an issue and your renewing your contract wait for the Samsung galaxy 3
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Yeah any idea when it's coming to US, probably next year
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Don't get it. It's an amazing phone, but there are better devices out there.
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It's a great phone, as long as you don't expect much support from LG, a little more from T-Mobile, and the rest of your support is here.
If it were me, I'd go to a better phone.
if you get it at the right place I say get it
honestly you can prob get a g2x for around 200 which is a great price, a GS2 is probably 300 and sensation 250-275 I dont think decking out that extra money would be worth it
I agree. Since the phones hardware are identical. The g2x is a great phone to use still
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adolfo778 said:
if you get it at the right place I say get it
honestly you can prob get a g2x for around 200 which is a great price, a GS2 is probably 300 and sensation 250-275 I dont think decking out that extra money would be worth it
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Dude a gs2 is still like 350 to 450 used lol.
Your on point with the sensation price which is really not a big upgrade comparing it to the g2x
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I know the LG Thrill (p925) and LG Optimus 3D (p920) are fairly interchangeable, but to what extent? Do they have the exact same hardware? I've never had any trouble flashing 03D KDZ files on my Thrill, and everything for the 03D seems to work fine for me.
Sorry for cross-polinating between phone forums, but I figured the O3d crowd might know more since it's been around longer.
It's the same exact phone. Literally.
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The only differences are with network stuff...
Like if you flash o3d stuff on to your thrill and you have att or something. Your data speeds may vary and stuff like that... that's all
I never get as fast data speeds when I flash a european based o3d rom on my att thrill
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Trekfan422991 said:
The only differences are with network stuff...
Like if you flash o3d stuff on to your thrill and you have att or something. Your data speeds may vary and stuff like that... that's all
I never get as fast data speeds when I flash a european based o3d rom on my att thrill
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The phones themselves are exactly the same. The basebands are not.
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so the o3d can get 4g speeds with the right basband?
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so the o3d can get 4g speeds with the right basband?
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Yeah. Flash V20P on it, and it'll work. Minus the fact that no one with an O3D has AT&T.
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Well its not like they need it. Most 3G speeds in Europe blow h+ out of the water
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I don't have an upgrade yet, but as the date draws nearer (December) I really start looking at what is coming out between now and then, and I must say I'm not feeling particularly confident about any given upgrade path.
If it's true the next Nexus will be Nexus Optimus based off the Optimus G I'd probably consider the Optimus G since having identical hardware to the galaxy S worked many wonders for the captivate.
Outside of that, the Xperia Tl looks like a pretty great device if it gets enough support to see decent long-lived dev support.
So, what upcoming phone do you think will have the best dev support? I would really like to keep getting updates long after the manufacturer officially drops support.. and Even if it's only 400$, I probably will skip the nexus since 16 gigs isn't enough without expandable memory storage..
Same. I also have an upgrade due this December and the new phones on at&t aren't interesting. I would've gone to the one x but their at&t version has ran into a wall because of a recent update that locked the boot loaders down, hard. (At&t officially does not support unlocked boot loaders for it). So, the Cappy is still moving forward
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panda_mode said:
Same. I also have an upgrade due this December and the new phones on at&t aren't interesting. I would've gone to the one x but their at&t version has ran into a wall because of a recent update that locked the boot loaders down, hard. (At&t officially does not support unlocked boot loaders for it). So, the Cappy is still moving forward
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I was looking at galaxy note 2. 2gigs of ram and quad core onix
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panda_mode said:
Same. I also have an upgrade due this December and the new phones on at&t aren't interesting. I would've gone to the one x but their at&t version has ran into a wall because of a recent update that locked the boot loaders down, hard. (At&t officially does not support unlocked boot loaders for it). So, the Cappy is still moving forward
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I'm cautiously optimistic about both the Xperia TL and the Optimus G.
I know that back mfr support can ruin otherwise great phones.. both in terms of upgrades and devs ability to make custom roms.. So I'll be looking anxiously at the LG Optimus. If the One x+ keeps the 64 gb of storage or even just 32gb of storage I would seriously consider it too assuming the dev support was adequate.
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I was looking at galaxy note 2. 2gigs of ram and quad core onix
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I am really worried the Note 2 will be far to big for my taste. The 4.7" phones already seem *huge* to have to stick in my pocket. Aside from that I'd be worried about the quad core exynos processsors which I hear make it hard to cook up custom Roms.
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I was looking at galaxy note 2. 2gigs of ram and quad core onix
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Sweet, I might consider that too. I'm not feeling the galaxy s3 for at&t at all and HTC one x is stuck on a rut with that 2.20 update.
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I'm cautiously optimistic about both the Xperia TL and the Optimus G.
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LG Optimus G looks very promising. I love its hardware design (on the same level with HTC one x or better, IMO), that quadcore Qualcomm s4 processor, and the screen is fantastic. I wish At&t included the 13 mp camera. But then again all cellphone cameras will never be perfect.
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Sweet, I might consider that too. I'm not feeling the galaxy s3 for at&t at all and HTC one x is stuck on a rut with that 2.20 update.
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LG Optimus G looks very promising. I love its hardware design (on the same level with HTC one x or better, IMO), that quadcore Qualcomm s4 processor, and the screen is fantastic. I wish At&t included the 13 mp camera. But then again all cellphone cameras will never be perfect.
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I want a decent camera but, honestly my absolute biggest concern is long term dev support. I wish there was an environment more "open" to dev with carriers. I understand they don't want to have to deal with people bricking their phones.. At the same time "voided warranty" scares off most people I talk to about custom roms in the first place.. So I don't think they are really gaining anything by locking down phones.. People either care about the warranty or they don't.
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I want a decent camera but, honestly my absolute biggest concern is long term dev support. I wish there was an environment more "open" to dev with carriers. I understand they don't want to have to deal with people bricking their phones.. At the same time "voided warranty" scares off most people I talk to about custom roms in the first place.. So I don't think they are really gaining anything by locking down phones.. People either care about the warranty or they don't.
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Well I'm guessing it's because carriers want you to buy a new phone for every upgrade date to make $$$ so they lock boot loaders (of course, that assumption could be false). For long term development support I will buy an international Samsung galaxy s_ device or a nexus.
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Well I'm guessing it's because carriers want you to buy a new phone for every upgrade date to make $$$ so they lock boot loaders (of course, that assumption could be false). For long term development support I will buy an international Samsung galaxy s_ device or a nexus.
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Unfortunately, I'm kinda tired of the SAMOLED displays.
As far as why they do it, forcing customers to buy new phones is a pretty horrible reason TBH.
There are far too many people who are angry at manufacturers for failing to update fast enough. When you remove their ability to install their own update, you're just giving them a reason to find another product.
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Unfortunately, I'm kinda tired of the SAMOLED displays.
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Me too, which is why I'm going to the One X or Nexus 4. I have a Nexus 7 and support is good. But I don't think any phone out there will be better than my captivate, development wise.
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panda_mode said:
Me too, which is why I'm going to the One X or Nexus 4. I have a Nexus 7 and support is good. But I don't think any phone out there will be better than my captivate, development wise.
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Captivate came in a golden age were on at&t when had no real android competitor. Great specs nothing locked really and almost exactly same as nexus device
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Captivate came in a golden age were on at&t when had no real android competitor. Great specs nothing locked really and almost exactly same as nexus device
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Haha, yup that's a good point. I'm glad that the cappy was my first android device and is/was filled with plenty of developers to support it. I'm kind of sad to leave it this December, TBH.
What do you think of the SGS3?
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Haha, yup that's a good point. I'm glad that the cappy was my first android device and is/was filled with plenty of developers to support it. I'm kind of sad to leave it this December, TBH.
What do you think of the SGS3?
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I left my Cappy last October after the USB port died and I got tired of switching out batteries to use it for the SGS II. My SGS II just had an unfortunate accident involving water, so I pulled out my trusty Cappy which I could not part with since it was my 1st Android device. Thank god for all of the awesome development that has and continues to unfold for this device. I am on Jelly Bean 4.1.2 and its like I never left. I do not know how much longer I am going to use it (Nexus 4 looks tempting), but it continues to be an amazing phone that I will continue to go back to whenever other phones fail on me.
Kind of off topic but I really wanted to say how much of an awesome phone this is. Props to all of you who kept it for a full two years! :good:
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Haha, yup that's a good point. I'm glad that the cappy was my first android device and is/was filled with plenty of developers to support it. I'm kind of sad to leave it this December, TBH.
What do you think of the SGS3?
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I like my galaxy s3 alot
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Nexus 4 price is hard to resist, lack of storage and lte is unfortunate but can't beat 350 for a top of the line device. And it's a nexus.
I'd consider the nexus 4 if I didn't have the nexus 7 already
Might as well go with the school of fish since the galaxy s 3 is $99 now at select stores. Cant beat that price with all the features it has. But you gotta admit the HTC one x is a nice looking phone, and dare I say, and to which nobody has mentioned yet, the Lumia 920 (in red) *gasp*
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Most major retailers will have GS3 for around $50 on black friday..if you are stateside...also Sam's club will have it for .96 cents
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One thing im wondering as I look at the nexus 4 is that there are 3 buttons back, home and multi task (which is long press home for us) one of the things i love is the dedicated options or settings key, anyone have any experience moving to no options button? One (of many) things that bother me when im using an iPhone is the stupid steps you have to take to change app settings.
I'm reconsidering this phone for that reason,(although im sure XDA can give me options to remedy this issue) am i the only one who thinks a dedicated multitasking button is a waste and long press home is a fine alternative to open up another shortcut option?
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am i the only one who thinks a dedicated multitasking button is a waste and long press home is a fine alternative to open up another shortcut option?
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+1 here. Maybe a custom ROM for the Nexus will give you the ability to do that.
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I don't have an upgrade yet, but as the date draws nearer (December) I really start looking at what is coming out between now and then, and I must say I'm not feeling particularly confident about any given upgrade path.
If it's true the next Nexus will be Nexus Optimus based off the Optimus G I'd probably consider the Optimus G since having identical hardware to the galaxy S worked many wonders for the captivate.
Outside of that, the Xperia Tl looks like a pretty great device if it gets enough support to see decent long-lived dev support.
So, what upcoming phone do you think will have the best dev support? I would really like to keep getting updates long after the manufacturer officially drops support.. and Even if it's only 400$, I probably will skip the nexus since 16 gigs isn't enough without expandable memory storage..
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Getting a Nexus is your only safe bet for long term dev support and you don't have to deal with locked bootloader and losing your warranty by unlocking it (you have no choice with Sony and HTC, because you enter your IMEI to unlock it which void your warranty, unless you do some third party unlocking method). Also for the price of the Nexus 4 and being a Nexus device, I don't see why one would get the Optimus G with locked bootloader and probably poor support, if only for the 32gb storage which is not worth it compared to all the things the Nexus offer (ie, Google updates, easy to flash, best dev support and highesst quality rom, pentaband, elitist Nexus fanboys community).
master2828 said:
am i the only one who thinks a dedicated multitasking button is a waste and long press home is a fine alternative to open up another shortcut option?
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Various CyanogenMod and AOKP-based rom is capable of customizing the on screen NavBar, including for the Captivate. Try AOKP rom and look for the Navigation bar settings.
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+1 here. Maybe a custom ROM for the Nexus will give you the ability to do that.
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Custom ROMs allow you to change all sorts of things about the navigation bar. You can have more buttons, different buttons, even shortcuts/widgets.
Also, I can say from experience that the three button setup is better than the four button setup.
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