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First thing's first - I'm definitely not a newb.
My phone (Sensation 4G on T-Mobile USA) is depended upon for work and person use. I've been playing with a lot of custom ROMs and each and every one of them has their own little quirks.
Because of this I have seriously considered going back to stock, but I want to be sure that I can receive OTA updates.
I realize that I can get everything back to stock via RUU, HOWEVER, with SuperCID in place, would I still be able to receive OTA updates? I've read that the RUU doesn't replace the SuperCID with the shipped value.
If not, how would I get the SuperCID back to the original value (which unfortunately I don't have - phone was bought used and already rooted) ?
Thanks so much!
You can get the OTA with superCID the RUU will unroot your phone and reinstall the stock recovery. You will need the stock recovery or you could Brock your phone
If you want to be on the safe side and rewrite your cid do the steps you did to get superCID but instead of 11111111 put T-MOB010 That should get you back on track
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Sinistra425 said:
You can get the OTA with superCID the RUU will unroot your phone and reinstall the stock recovery. You will need the stock recovery or you could Brock your phone
If you want to be on the safe side and rewrite your cid do the steps you did to get superCID but instead of 11111111 put T-MOB010 That should get you back on track
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So, by flashing the RUU it won't replace the 4EXT recovery with the factory one?
JWhipple said:
So, by flashing the RUU it won't replace the 4EXT recovery with the factory one?
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Yes it will!
Yes it willow replace the 4EXT with the stock recovery I have recently have taken my sensation 4g back to stock with the ruin and it reinstalls everything from firmware to recovery
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JWhipple said:
So, by flashing the RUU it won't replace the 4EXT recovery with the factory one?
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The RUU will unroot your phone and reinstall the stock recovery
Sinistra425 said:
Yes it willow replace the 4EXT with the stock recovery I have recently have taken my sensation 4g back to stock with the ruin and it reinstalls everything from firmware to recovery
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What about the cid??
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No cid will stay the same but that has nothing to do with how your phone runs that just allows you to install the ics custom rom because of the firmware updates needed to run them
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Sinistra425 said:
No cid will stay the same but that has nothing to do with how your phone runs that just allows you to install the ics custom rom because of the firmware updates needed to run them
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I'm thinking if I need to use warranty?
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Can you claim warranty with superCID in placE?
SensationX1 said:
Can you claim warranty with superCID in placE?
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you could.. but since you can easily rewrite your cid, why worry?
after u flash stock rom
1. Super CID will remain
2. S-off still remain
I can download OTA from server but after download finish it will not install with the error about variant system (means we modified software).
anardjai said:
after u flash stock rom
1. Super CID will remain
2. S-off still remain
I can download OTA from server but after download finish it will not install with the error about variant system (means we modified software).
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Are you sure for this? From what I know IF you install stock ROM from RUU, it will automatically unroot the phone, get back to S-On and of course replace your bootloader with the original one. However to be honest I don't know what happens if you install stock from clockwork recovery - maybe that way the bootloader will not be replaced and you will still have S-Off and root.
TO JWhipple: The Super CID shouldn't matter for RUU. However you could always change it back to your phone/operator version before installing RUU.
@up: not in Sensation. After installing stock with RUU, S-OFF will remain still. To get S-ON back follow this guide. I'm sure, tested on my own Sensation
What would be the right order to go with:
Do you start with changing the SuperCID back to the original one forst or would you first have to go back to S-ON?
SIMPLY TELL ME ONE THING
that can we have official update after installing the latest ruu with s-on and unroot but with super cid?????
thanks
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installing stock ruu doesnt change the phone to s-on or unroot.......but see the guide to do s-on then u might get the official updates
The ruu simply changes your rom to stock unrooted, changes radio, recovery and hboot. It doesn't change stuff like cid and s-off. In theory you can get ota updates with supercid and s-off. The only thing required, would be the stock recovery
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hello how r u ?
seems u got allot exp. in this i try to get back to my stock ruu rom after installing ginger bread arhd and pg53img 3.12 it stops and say error 155 what should i do to get back to stock
dexter93 said:
The ruu simply changes your rom to stock unrooted, changes radio, recovery and hboot. It doesn't change stuff like cid and s-off. In theory you can get ota updates with supercid and s-off. The only thing required, would be the stock recovery
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Quick question, a few guides to going back to stock Sensation point or that you have to downgrade the firmware and radio. Is downgrading the radio (and firmware for that matter) necessary before flashing stock ROM with RUU? I did it with the last sensation before sending it in for warranty replacement, but only because the guide suggested it. But next time I wouldn't do it if I don't have to. Thanks ahead.
serega12 said:
Quick question, a few guides to going back to stock Sensation point or that you have to downgrade the firmware and radio. Is downgrading the radio (and firmware for that matter) necessary before flashing stock ROM with RUU? I did it with the last sensation before sending it in for warranty replacement, but only because the guide suggested it. But next time I wouldn't do it if I don't have to. Thanks ahead.
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No it is not necessary. It will be required only if your device is S-ON and RUU version is older. Just remeber that if your phone is S-OFF and you want to put it S-ON again, do that after you have flashed stock ROM.
Hello, I'm on hboot 1.23 but s-on, I just want to know because somebody mentioned it before, an I actually stuck here? Literally forever? Because hboot 1.23 cannot flash other firmware files or any advanced fastboot commands.
sensation lover said:
Hello, I'm on hboot 1.23 but s-on, I just want to know because somebody mentioned it before, an I actually stuck here? Literally forever? Because hboot 1.23 cannot flash other firmware files or any advanced fastboot commands.
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I wrote a load of stuff then re-read the OP.
Ahh S-ON, eek.
As Revolutionary won't work, can you use the HTC method to get S-OFF ?
If you can then do the PG58IMG.zip files work from: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459767
I flashed 1.27.1100 over 1.23.0000, then again I was S-OFF.
HTC method to s-off? Never heard of it.
sensation lover said:
HTC method to s-off? Never heard of it.
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Because it doesn't exist.
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But unlocking the bootloader via HTC might help
Rhiannon224 said:
Because it doesn't exist.
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OK Sorry wrong terminology, I was referring to: http://htcdev.com/bootloader
I know many folks have used the HTC unlock method, I don't know what the limitations with it are as I used Revolutionary. My thoughts were can you use the HTC Unlock process then flash the F/W using PB58IMG.zip back to 1.17 the use revolutionary to get full S-OFF. I don't know if that's possible but ......
I know they keep a record that you've used it on your phone.
no, that doesn't give you s-off, it just unlocks your bootloader, but thanks for trying!
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But unlocking the bootloader via HTC might help
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It will not, it still leaves you s off, meaning you can't flash radios, firmwares, etc.
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Rhiannon224 said:
It will not, it still leaves you s off, meaning you can't flash radios, firmwares, etc.
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Ahh, it was just a thought. I guess 1.23 S-ON is on his phone for a while then :-(
I'm guessing its on till revolutionary updates.....if it ever does.
sensation lover said:
I'm guessing its on till revolutionary updates.....if it ever does.
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Either that or a new release RUU with hboot higher than 1.23, such as an official ICS RUU that will hopefully be released in March. The test RUUs that are currently available don't work - see here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22500215&postcount=24
gol_n_dal said:
I wrote a load of stuff then re-read the OP.
Ahh S-ON, eek.
As Revolutionary won't work, can you use the HTC method to get S-OFF ?
If you can then do the PG58IMG.zip files work from: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459767
I flashed 1.27.1100 over 1.23.0000, then again I was S-OFF.
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*Edit* Never mind... I guess after getting SuperCid it worked.
How did you flash to 1.27.1100? I have been trying to get my firmware updated so I can get ICS on my Sensation but it keeps giving me the "remote: not allowed" error. I have S-Off.
redblade said:
*Edit* Never mind... I guess after getting SuperCid it worked.
How did you flash to 1.27.1100? I have been trying to get my firmware updated so I can get ICS on my Sensation but it keeps giving me the "remote: not allowed" error. I have S-Off.
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Flash the firmware from Mike's sticky. 3.24/3.25 gives hboot 1.27.1100, but I think this version is included with later fw releases too.
Does the remote: not allowed error appear in bootloader, relating to a particular part of the fw update - e.g. radio?
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Hello,
my HTC SENSATION has the HBOOT Version 1.27.1100 and I want to download a RUU to restore my HTC device completely. But I can´t find a RUU with this HBOOT version.
I only have to download the right RUU and install it on my HTC device to restore it completely, right?
james0912 said:
Hello,
my HTC SENSATION has the HBOOT Version 1.27.1100 and I want to download a RUU to restore my HTC device completely. But I can´t find a RUU with this HBOOT version.
I only have to download the right RUU and install it on my HTC device to restore it completely, right?
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Hi,
Download hboot 1.17 HERE
Then you can use an RUU for that firmware.
which ruu can i use now???
i only want to restore my htc sensation completely!
james0912 said:
which ruu can i use now???
i only want to restore my htc sensation completely!
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Hi,
You need an RUU that matches your area and carrier.
Look HERE
malybru said:
Hi,
Download hboot 1.17 HERE
Then you can use an RUU for that firmware.
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Hey malybru can you flash this file with the stock recovery? Also this only changes the Hboot version correct?
T-Macgnolia said:
Hey malybru can you flash this file with the stock recovery? Also this only changes the Hboot version correct?
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Hi,
It's a PG58IMG.zip .
So, it's just placed on the sd card.
Recovery is not involved.
Yes,it will only change the hboot.
malybru said:
Hi,
It's a PG58IMG.zip .
So, it's just placed on the sd card.
Recovery is not involved.
Yes,it will only change the hboot.
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Man I had a duh money, I realized after I posted that that that file will flash automatically when you boot to Hboot, as that is the file name that Hboot looks for. But still doesn't Hboot use the recovery to flash the file?
T-Macgnolia said:
Man I had a duh money, I realized after I posted that that that file will flash automatically when you boot to Hboot, as that is the file name that Hboot looks for. But still doesn't Hboot use the recovery to flash the file?
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Hi,
I knew you knew that.
I just posted for general information.
I think it flashes in bootloader,before recovery starts.
malybru said:
Hi,
I knew you knew that.
I just posted for general information.
I think it flashes in bootloader,before recovery starts.
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Ok this will be my last post here cause I don't want to hyjack this thread.
This has brought a question to mind and I will have to see if I can find the answer some how. The question is what does Hboot use to flash the PG58IMG.zip. I personally have always thought it used recovery to flash the file.
T-Macgnolia said:
Ok this will be my last post here cause I don't want to hyjack this thread.
This has brought a question to mind and I will have to see if I can find the answer some how. The question is what does Hboot use to flash the PG58IMG.zip. I personally have always thought it used recovery to flash the file.
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It uses the bootloader to flash the file. If you put it on your sd card and reboot into bootloader (volume down button + power button) you will be asked to update. Choose yes using the volume buttons and the file will be flashed, easy as that
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james0912 said:
Hello,
my HTC SENSATION has the HBOOT Version 1.27.1100 and I want to download a RUU to restore my HTC device completely. But I can´t find a RUU with this HBOOT version.
I only have to download the right RUU and install it on my HTC device to restore it completely, right?
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When you install a rom by a RUU, it will also flash the stock Hboot version. Take a look at the shipped roms thread.
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james0912 said:
Hello,
my HTC SENSATION has the HBOOT Version 1.27.1100 and I want to download a RUU to restore my HTC device completely. But I can´t find a RUU with this HBOOT version.
I only have to download the right RUU and install it on my HTC device to restore it completely, right?
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Hboot 1.27 is clearly ICS.
Download official RUU from here (RUU_PYRAMID_ICS_HTC_Europe_3.32.401.5_Radio_11.69.3504.00U_11.22.3504.07_M_release_246089_signed)
This is the latest official ICS RUU for unbranded Europe Sensation.
If your device is branded or your region is not Europe then search for the appropriare RUU.
Run the exe from pc with phone usb plugged. It will restore your phone as "out of the box".
Hope it helped.
Man I really don't understand any of this lol......... I'm just gonna ask a few questions and you guys can either respond or not....
1) I am on stock ICS, rooted, with HTC Dev Unlocked and using Clockwork. If I wanted to un-root, remove clockwork and re-lock the Hboot... How would that go exactly? 1.27.0000 etc...
2) I don't understand why getting S-Off is so difficult. If one would simply downgrade from ICS to GB, wouldn't that change the Hboot version to a lower one, and then you would be able to use the Revolutionary way? Or is that not possible to do? Or does the downgrade not affect the Hboot?
3) Which Custom ROM am I able to flash at the moment? Any, based on ICS?
FnH84 said:
Man I really don't understand any of this lol......... I'm just gonna ask a few questions and you guys can either respond or not....
1) I am on stock ICS, rooted, with HTC Dev Unlocked and using Clockwork. If I wanted to un-root, remove clockwork and re-lock the Hboot... How would that go exactly? 1.27.0000 etc...
2) I don't understand why getting S-Off is so difficult. If one would simply downgrade from ICS to GB, wouldn't that change the Hboot version to a lower one, and then you would be able to use the Revolutionary way? Or is that not possible to do? Or does the downgrade not affect the Hboot?
3) Which Custom ROM am I able to flash at the moment? Any, based on ICS?
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Hi,
1. I think that you can just run the RUU in the post above yours.(If your phone is European)
2.Downgrading is not possible on hboot 1.27.000
HTC have locked you out of this possibility.
3.As you say.Any 3.32. based ICS ROM.
malybru said:
Hi,
1. I think that you can just run the RUU in the post above yours.(If your phone is European)
2.Downgrading is not possible on hboot 1.27.000
HTC have locked you out of this possibility.
3.As you say.Any 3.32. based ICS ROM.
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Thank you very much Not planning un-root but was just wondering, in case I have to do that at some point, it's good to know how
FnH84 said:
Man I really don't understand any of this lol......... I'm just gonna ask a few questions and you guys can either respond or not....
1) I am on stock ICS, rooted, with HTC Dev Unlocked and using Clockwork. If I wanted to un-root, remove clockwork and re-lock the Hboot... How would that go exactly? 1.27.0000 etc...
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It can be done only by running corresponding RUU which can be found based on your firmware(in your case it is 3.32) and cid (to get cid "fastboot getvar cid")...if you are unbranded i.e. cid is HTC__001..then you can run the above mentioned ruu...or else you should get the appropriate one...if you can't find it then post your cid along with radio..we can find the appropriate one for you
2) I don't understand why getting S-Off is so difficult. If one would simply downgrade from ICS to GB, wouldn't that change the Hboot version to a lower one, and then you would be able to use the Revolutionary way? Or is that not possible to do? Or does the downgrade not affect the Hboot?
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If you are S-ON you can't downgrade...not by running a RUU or by flashing firmware directly...that's why people use revolutionary first to get soff and then they'll flash unlocked firmware to update the hboot and all...
It you are SOFF you can literally do anything ..upgrade, downgrade..its your choice..
3 ) Which Custom ROM am I able to flash at the moment? Any, based on ICS?
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As you are unlocked via HTC dev..if you update your recovery with 4EXT latest one which has smartflash mode ON(exclusive SON flash)..you could have any ROM
Edit: I'm bit late huh anyways for more detailed answer look ay my post
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basically i wanna go from ICS to GB on my sensation 4g from t-mobile
please dont ask why, i have my reasons
i have used the search feature and have found nothing
please just someone point me in the right direction
my phone is rooted and i have the bootloader unlocked
please help!
srkrono said:
basically i wanna go from ICS to GB on my sensation 4g from t-mobile
please dont ask why, i have my reasons
i have used the search feature and have found nothing
please just someone point me in the right direction
my phone is rooted and i have the bootloader unlocked
please help!
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are you S-OFF?
also do you mean to flash a gb rom or returning to the official GB by using a ruu?
Flash old firmware in bootloader,and then flash a gb Rom.
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sunnytse1 said:
Flash old firmware in bootloader,and then flash a gb Rom.
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so i was s-off but i was messing around and turn back to s-on and now my phone wont leave the bootloader and it says "Security Warning" on top
any help would be great!!!
srkrono said:
so i was s-off but i was messing around and turn back to s-on and now my phone wont leave the bootloader and it says "Security Warning" on top
any help would be great!!!
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i assume your bootloader is still unlocked
can you boot your device?
if yes then use this guide to S-OFF again
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1614617
then flash gb firmware from this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459767
follow carefully the instructions and before flashing the firmware check md5 sums
after that flash gb rom
rzr86 said:
i assume your bootloader is still unlocked
can you boot your device?
if yes then use this guide to S-OFF again
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1614617
then flash gb firmware from this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1459767
follow carefully the instructions and before flashing the firmware check md5 sums
after that flash gb rom
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I got it to work again by getting S-OFF then using a 1.18 Hboot RUU
but now i Bootloader says locked again
and when i try to unlock i get an ADB error
srkrono said:
I got it to work again by getting S-OFF then using a 1.18 Hboot RUU
but now i Bootloader says locked again
and when i try to unlock i get an ADB error
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now you are S-OFF there is no need to unlock the bootloader again
you are fully unlocked(S-OFF)
but because you used a ruu you aren't rooted now
you have to root again(if you want) either you don't have now custom recovery
Hello
I have a AT&T HTC One X, and i have tried to relock the bootloader and unroot the phone. I have only relocked the bootloader. It had the stock rom in it. Now, whenever I try doing anything to the phone, it goes back into bootloader. I tried going into recovery but no luck. Need help.
majdi313 said:
Hello
I have a AT&T HTC One X, and i have tried to relock the bootloader and unroot the phone. I have only relocked the bootloader. It had the stock rom in it. Now, whenever I try doing anything to the phone, it goes back into bootloader. I tried going into recovery but no luck. Need help.
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what hboot? are you s-on or s-off? did you supercid originally?
exad said:
what hboot? are you s-on or s-off? did you supercid originally?
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HBOOT 2.14.000. S-OFF, and I'm new to this, so I don't know
You have a custom recovery on it, I assume? Once you relock, you have to run a RUU or unlock. It won't boot up on a custom recovery after you relock.
basically, just ruu. youll be stock while retaining s-off.
majdi313 said:
HBOOT 2.14.000. S-ON, and I'm new to this, so I don't know
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It's S-ON, not S-OFF
Wait, no. If you're s-off, that shouldn't happen. You can boot on whatever when you're s-off. But running a RUU will get you back to stock regardless.
Edit: That explains it. When you're s-on, you have to RUU after relocking.
majdi313 said:
It's S-ON, not S-OFF
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ahh.. did you supercid?
iElvis said:
Wait, no. If you're s-off, that shouldn't happen. You can boot on whatever when you're s-off. But running a RUU will get you back to stock regardless.
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Should I run RUU?
majdi313 said:
Should I run RUU?
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not yet!!
exad said:
not yet!!
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Alright. Please guide me on what to do.
Check your CID first. Running a jelly bean RUU with SuperCID (11111111) will brick your phone.
exad said:
ahh.. did you supercid?
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exad said:
ahh.. did you supercid?
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No? What's that?
iElvis said:
Check your CID first. Running a jelly bean RUU with SuperCID (11111111) will brick your phone.
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Could also be 22222222 which would also brick.
How did you unlock your bootloader the first time?
iElvis said:
How did you unlock your bootloader the first time?
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From the HTC Dev instructions.
majdi313 said:
From the HTC Dev instructions.
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Do you have an AT&T phone or another carrier?
iElvis said:
Do you have an AT&T phone or another carrier?
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It's a unlocked phone. I have Simple Mobile aka T-Mobile
majdi313 said:
From the HTC Dev instructions.
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Your phones not from at&t?