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Does anybody else's screen have a blue tint to the white's at any angle other than straight on?
I ask because mine does, and my Fascinate does, but it isn't even really noticeable.
I remember when I got my HTC incredible that some had it worse than others so I'm kind of curious if the Charge I have is an overt anomaly or if I'm just being picky.
i've owned the fascinate, the vibrant and now the charge... they all looked 'bluish' to me... especially when you compared the screens to another phone that is not an amoled.
Engadget mentioned this in their review of the Charge. Disable the auto-brightness setting, and dial it up manually. You should see the blueish tint disappear.
the bluish tint never really goes away .. at least in my experience with 3 different samsungs .. regardless of the brightness setting. turning it up all the way helps but it's definitely still noticeable .. depends on whether or not you can live with it
I'm planning to pick up a Charge this Saturday, and will be going to the store with a list of "concerns" such as this one. If I can reporduce the blue tint and then make it disappear enough to not annoy the hell out of me, I'll be leaving with one.
Luckily I know the salesperson I'm buying it from, so it will not have the OTA installed when he hands it over.
FWIW, I just realized all of my tinting issues were due to the Zagg Invisible Shield I had on it. I realized this after I took the generic brand protector off my Fascinate and realized all the colors popped more.
Yes, OLED/AMOLED/SAMOLED/SAMOLED+ screens have pink or blue tint depending on the angle, but mine was *awful* compared to my Epic 4G, Fascinate, and HTC Incredible.
Zagg screen protector off, Phantom Skin screen protector on...takes a significantly greater angle to cause the degree of tinting issues I was seeing with anything but straight-on.
Much, MUCH happier with the display now
I actually work in the oled industry , the reason you see a blusish tint is because blue lives the shortest. so to avoid degradation and increase efficiency they optimize the screens using blue as the jump point.
although it is a blue tint it by industry standards is called a cool white. when you increase intensity on the screen you see less of this tint because at the higher points the three colors intensity start to create a more pure white.
you must remember OLED compared to other screen technology is in its infancy, we have developed blue molecules that will live longer with better efficiency when you start to see these roll out in the industry more pure whites will be acheived.
You can complain about blue tint all you want but it is by design so there is nothing you can change.....now with voodoo kernels you can adjust this but you run the risk of color degradation more quickly so dont leave static images on your screen as colors will degrade faster than others and you will see "Burn in " if you will
Oh, I totally understand the blue tint to OLED's, and I'm fine with it. No complaints.
But this was *bad*. Even using the phone in my hand, every slight movement was causing it to flicker from pink to blue to warm tones and so the screen itself looked like it was having a film waved in front of it. It was distracting and awful compared to my other OLED-ish devices.
Lo and behold, it was just the screen protector type I was using. No issues with it now.
(I actually prefer cool tones to my displays anyway, so its all good.)
I am comparing 2 Charges side by side and one has a really blue tint and the other has perfect whites. Mine is the one that is really blue. My display is noticeably dimmer then the one without the bluish tint. As much as I hate to do it I might swap it out to see if I get one that does not have the blue tint.
I have used the dock on mine for about 2 weeks nightly. Could have have caused a burn in effect by keeping the clock screen on at night?
Edit: nothing is wrong with the screen. Its only noticeable if you have both right next to each other. If you look at one then the other you really can't even tell. I bought an episode of South Park on media hub and it looks better then my 46 inch Samsung led tv.
As it seems there are a few threads on auto brightness and color issues, i figure i should do the best i can to explain how it works on the S4, and mobiles in general. I work in Television/Film and have been shooting for almost a decade.
ANY QUESTIONS, feel free to PM me, i'll probably ask for very specific photo's (ISO/WB and other data) so i can help you in a professional manner, and i'll try to reply within 6-8 hours. No one should live with a bum screen!
To fully understand what im trying to express, load the attached image onto your phone, and on a bright sunny afternoon, print out the attached image on a small piece of decent photo paper, grab your phone, and find a room in your house that has only fluorescent lights and close any windows or shutters.
Look at the photo in the sunlight; note the colors. Now go inside to the fluorescent dark room, note the change in what the colors look like, and that white is still pretty white (thats your brain), then turn your camera flashlight on (LED), and note the changes in color again (some reds may look purplish or greens bluish), but white still looks kinda white (should look very light blue). Now repeat and look at the print out versus the same image on your phone screen; it should match best under 6500k lighting, but still be off (thats a printed image vs monitor thing though). Also depends on your printer ink type (dye/pigment), color space, etc etc etc. Your eyes take raw data in, but your brain does the magic, and says 'nope, thats white', so you perceive it as 'white' or 'white enough' and you 'know' it is meant to 'represent' white.
Hardware - This includes an ambient light sensor. The way these work is similar to metering systems in cameras; they measure the amount of light hitting a photodiode. Even in high end (DSLR) cameras, sometimes the light meters are junk. On cell phones, they are typically pretty crappy. The iPhone 5's have excellent ALS (ambient light sensors) and they ramp up/down smoothly; much better than any other device i've used.
The way the ALS works in most devices is simple; there are several photodiodes, each tuned for a specific spectrum of light. Say two for 3200k, two for 6500k, two for whatever else, etc, and they basically average the reading, apply a curve, and adjust the screen appropriately. They do NOT accurately measure color temperature very well, and 'see' brightness only in limited spectrums, meaning their idea of what 'bright' and 'dim' is may be vastly different from the human eyes' perceived 'bright' or 'dim'. Also, the 'curves' applied don't match up that well with how the human eye perceives brightness; its really amazing we can fake it as close as we can, really, but most of the magic lies in your brain.
Lighting - this is kind of tricky; and i don't feel like getting into it too deeply, but what you perceive as 'white' is mostly dependent on your brain; not your eyes or the lights around you. Think about reading a book (a real book) inside a library under fluorescent lights; the pages are white, even though the color temperature might be 5000k or 6500k. Now that same book outside; thats 5800k. Now under some old incandescent lights; that might be 2800k. Yet you know it SHOULD be white. Thats your brain. And thats reflected light; its based on the ambient color temperature around you; so reflected light 'looks' white or blue or whatever.
Your phone screen (galaxy S IV) is basically white balanced at 6600k , so it will appear most white when around lighting around 6500k, which is on the bluer side of daylight/cloudy and indoors.
Screen Mode - The Galaxy S IV has a feature that allows it to dynamically change based on the ALS, or can be overridden by the user, which mostly affects color gamut, and either amps up contrast and saturation while shifting hues slightly, or flattens them to a more realistic (usually most people prefer high saturation/high contrast images) image.
Sampling frequency - i have no idea what the ALS sensor samples at, or any definitive specs on the exact sensor and how it interacts with auto brightness, its priority, etc (yet, ive emailed Samsung and i wouldn't mind coming up with a simple app to adjust this if i can figure out the sensor specs and their software). But certain lights (fluorescent mostly) flicker at either 50hz or 60hz depending on their AC current, which may, at times, interfere or give bad readings to the ALS depending on the ALS sensor reading timings (again i do not know exactly what those values are, i suspect they are long as my S III and S IV typically react about a half-second behind lighting changes).
DETERMINING IF YOU HAVE A BAD DISPLAY
All together, it works pretty darn good, if a bit slowly, but there seems to be a lot of confusion and people wondering if their screen is bad. The BEST and EASIEST way is to go to any cell store or mall, and compare YOUR screen and the SAME image to another S IV, with the same settings. The best settings for this are to turn power saving OFF, turn off ALL power saving apps, turn auto brightness OFF, turn brightness up ALL THE WAY, go to 'settings', 'display', 'screen mode', and change the setting to 'movie'. Compare several IDENTICAL images or pages. Then change the 'screen mode' to 'standard' and compare the same images.
While doing so, be sure to check out images such as the one i provided and make sure the colors match, grays are grays or at least the same slight caste of pink/green/etc, and while doing so, TILT THE SCREENS at various angles together (level surface, side by side, tilt to 45 degrees at the same time on all 4 axes), and look for discoloration or bleeding; if you see big differences between two or three other phones and yours, you got a bum screen. I haven't seen a 'bad' one yet, and i made the poor AT&T guy open up five of them and let me play with them (AMOLED also has jet black splotches with full blacks in a fully black room; i wanted the screen with the least noticeable splotches).
Thanks for this. Question though. When I pull my keyboard up to type on something or if I'm in a YouTube video and I tap the screen to bring up the progress bar the color shifts dramatically. I've tried many settings and it always does this. Also tried it on another s4 multiple ones did the same thing...
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The white balance can actually be calibrated by changing the calibration levels of the LEDs sitting under the screen
Lets hope for the best
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Thanks for this. Question though. When I pull my keyboard up to type on something or if I'm in a YouTube video and I tap the screen to bring up the progress bar the color shifts dramatically. I've tried many settings and it always does this. Also tried it on another s4 multiple ones did the same thing...
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ok, do me a favor, I would prefer if you had either a prosumer camera you could use, or better yet a DSLR you could borrow that i could guide you through how to take two shots of the differences with all the important variables locked down so i can figure it out for you. I believe the screenshot feature ignores the 'Screen Mode' settings, as it should (you wouldnt want a screen mode dictating recording colorimetry options), so it does require real photos to figure out.
Have you changed the standard 'Screen Mode' setting or left it at 'Adapt Display' or 'Dynamic'? Those will keep changing it; Professional photo and movie are more flat, but they do not change. Again disable power saving mode, power saving apps, turn off auto brightness, (in this case set brightness to where you want it) and check it out again; if it doesnt change colors, (which it should not), you have no issues; its a normal 'feature' of the device. The idea is to limit all variables. Try that and PM me the results. If the colors no longer shift, the issue was 'adapt display' or 'dynamic' Screen Modes. Auto brightness/powersaving mode/power saving apps should only affect brightness; we are only disabling them to limit perceived changes.
To try to trouble shoot this, change screen mode to a static setting like 'professional photo' or 'movie' in Screen Mode and turn off auto brightness, turn off power saving and turn off all power/battery saving apps/etc, bring up a Youtube video and play it, then bring up your keyboard and see if the color shifts (it shouldnt if you have changed Screen Mode to Pro Photo/Movie and disabled powersave/all battery apps/auto brightness). Then let me know if that fixes it via PM.
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The white balance can actually be calibrated by changing the calibration levels of the LEDs sitting under the screen
Lets hope for the best
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problem is most calibration settings/programs and methods i know of are non-pentile and are mostly software fixes for what ive used; AMOLED is different PenTile (RGBG) than what i tried to fix before which was Motorola Atrix 4G PenTile (RGBW, red green blue white), CCFL LCD is way different (more what im used to, as well as LED LCD and even IPS is easier as it is still RGB), and all the curves software etc are all proprietary to manufacturers. Granted controlling just the R/G/B/G LED's would help, but getting the curve right and correcting might take longer than the Galaxy S V arrival. I spent months calibrating all my gear; most of it is 2-3 years old, and at least 6-12 months old before i get it all settled and can rely on it for a given job. Usually i rely on calibrated displays, knowing my own color limitations, RGB histograms, vector scopes, etc (i have a very slight red/green color weakness, but extremely sharp vision and i know how to work around my limitations).
I actually emailed Samsung about this for as much information as i could get (not much so far but im digging). I have a friend playing with LUT curves on his S IV and he says its a close second to the iPhone screens for AdobeRGB in 'movie' mode, which i happen to agree with; its pretty flat, but the contrast on greens is still high, which again is a PenTile RGBG specific issue; we are both vets of backlit RGB panels. My friend also works with the same company i consult/represent; it took him almost three months to properly calibrate LUT curves between a single sensor and a simple 480P CCFL LCD display, and that was with full manufacturer support. Colorimetry is a science.
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When I pull my keyboard up to type on something or if I'm in a YouTube video and I tap the screen to bring up the progress bar the color shifts dramatically. I've tried many settings and it always does this.
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Same here. Thanks for the write up but I'm seeing the same thing.
I dim the display with the Screen Filter app for reading in bed and whenever my keyboard pops up (SwiftKey, TouchPal or stock) the entire screen gets a green cast. Under these conditions it is very dramatic.
I use manual brightness and turned off the Autoadjust Screen Tone setting
Some other apps exhibit a fluctuation in color cast when I put my finger near the screen which is double weird. :-\
-darren
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Yes it's weird I don't know what's happening. Anyways I'd toy turn the brightness up past half way the color cast goes away. .. Not sure what it is
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If you go to a settings menu and scroll up and down fast, my phone gets a purple tint and leaves like a shadow of the words behind... Kinda annoying.. Anyone else notice this?
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If you go to a settings menu and scroll up and down fast, my phone gets a purple tint and leaves like a shadow of the words behind... Kinda annoying.. Anyone else notice this?
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thats because AMOLED usually have a slower response time, upwards of 20ms
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Yes smearing
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yep, i have some old LG CCFL LCD monitors with a claimed 2ms (more like 6-10ms) response time from 2006; they were about $300 each back then. i also have a new IPS with 30ms response time; it is annoying.
also some pentile displays are slower between subpixels; my Atrix 4G had very slow blue white pixels (RGBW) so you had a weird dimming as well when scrolling through texts.
Settings, Display, disable Auto Adjust Screen Tone' as well, its a power saving thing i forgot to mention in the first write up.
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thats because AMOLED usually have a slower response time, upwards of 20ms
yep, i have some old LG CCFL LCD monitors with a claimed 2ms (more like 6-10ms) response time from 2006; they were about $300 each back then. i also have a new IPS with 30ms response time; it is annoying.
also some pentile displays are slower between subpixels; my Atrix 4G had very slow blue white pixels (RGBW) so you had a weird dimming as well when scrolling through texts.
Settings, Display, disable Auto Adjust Screen Tone' as well, its a power saving thing i forgot to mention in the first write up.
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it can be fixed with color adjustment though so maybe a software update can fix it as well
I bought the s4 the first day it came out, after using it for couple of days i started noticing weird stuff on my photos, especially on low light photos... i went to att and one of the rep said its a known issue its called "elephant effect" im into photography and i havent heard that term before, he also said that it will be fix on the next update... so i went home and did some research about "elephant effect" unfortunately i cant can find anything related with my issue... i also did some pixel peeping and im 100% positive there's something off on the display of my phone.
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These photos are just screenshots
You can see those weird artifacts on the pictures, i also compared my screen display to my coworker's phone and my phone was way off...
What i would suggest for those who wants to buy the new s4 or currently users, is to check the display by taking a photo on a low light and do some pixel peeping...
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Has anyone else noticed a color and contrast shift from the top to the bottom of the screen? In very low brightness settings my screen gradients from crushed black levels and a reddish hue at the top of the screen to a acceptable black levels and an more green hue at the bottom of the screen. I can try to get some pictures with my DSLR tonight to illustrate. I'll have to compare to other S4's in the same scenario. In every day use its not too noticeable, but while watching video in a completely dark environment with the brightness all the way down it now bothers me some.
Anyone have a similar experience? Thanks!
Yes I notice it. It fixes itself if you change the brightness with an app. so I'm guessing its a weird kernel thing. It only happens when the keyboard is up
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Yes I notice it. It fixes itself if you change the brightness with an app. so I'm guessing its a weird kernel thing. It only happens when the keyboard is up
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I notice it with or without the keyboard. I use the Display Tester app to display a full screen white or 50% gray and now that I look at it, the red hue at the top of the screen is visible at all but 100% brightness levels. What app were you using to dim the screen, I would like to try it out.
Here is an exaggerated image I made showing the gradation (50% gray). The top of the screen would be to the left. Black levels get crushed at the top of the screen also.
(Sorry for the bad image compression, my screen doesn't have the extreme banding in it!)
WestonWW said:
I notice it with or without the keyboard. I use the Display Tester app to display a full screen white or 50% gray and now that I look at it, the red hue at the top of the screen is visible at all but 100% brightness levels. What app were you using to dim the screen, I would like to try it out.
Here is an exaggerated image I made showing the gradation (50% gray). The top of the screen would be to the left. Black levels get crushed at the top of the screen also.
(Sorry for the bad image compression, my screen doesn't have the extreme banding in it!)
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screen adjuster, lags like hell but you can see it fixes it.
set values +5 for each color.
batanuenio said:
I bought the s4 the first day it came out, after using it for couple of days i started noticing weird stuff on my photos, especially on low light photos... i went to att and one of the rep said its a known issue its called "elephant effect" im into photography and i havent heard that term before, he also said that it will be fix on the next update... so i went home and did some research about "elephant effect" unfortunately i cant can find anything related with my issue... i also did some pixel peeping and im 100% positive there's something off on the display of my phone.
Sample photos
These photos are just screenshots
You can see those weird artifacts on the pictures, i also compared my screen display to my coworker's phone and my phone was way off...
What i would suggest for those who wants to buy the new s4 or currently users, is to check the display by taking a photo on a low light and do some pixel peeping...
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ill check that out; it looks like compression artifacts; what settings are you using when you shoot? also to internal or external SD card? and speed rating/brand/type of external SD card?
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screen adjuster, lags like hell but you can see it fixes it.
set values +5 for each color.
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I tried that and it made little to no difference on my phone. I went to the AT&T store on my lunch and compared my phone to the display unit. My phone has a noticeable difference. The rep at the AT&T store suggested I take it to the local repair depot... I've never been there before but I hope they don't try to pawn a refurb phone off on me to replace my 17 day old S4. I'll let you guys know what I find out.
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ill check that out; it looks like compression artifacts; what settings are you using when you shoot? also to internal or external SD card? and speed rating/brand/type of external SD card?
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I was using auto mode on my camera and used the internal mem.
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I was using auto mode on my camera and used the internal mem.
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did you zoom in, and what size (pixel wise) did you use? thats textbook macroblocking.
Hi my s4 have a yellow tint, i compare with other s4 and my s4 screen have much yellow in white screen, is faulty? Is possibile to fix it with gamma correction?
Have been really please with the Z3 since I got it. Performance is great and in general I really like the camera and the range of options however...when I photograph anything that is red or has red in the scene the camera/processing doesn't truly represent the colour and adds a pinkish tinge to the image.
Not sure exactly what is happening here, if the Z3 is producing cooler images than expected but would love to have some feedback from everyone else.
Some images, especially in low light directly on to a white background produce a pinkish spot. I've seen this reported on the Sony forum with some Z3C owners so i'm not sure if this is contrabuting the the problem.
I shot these in manual mode>8mp>auto WB
Anyone else had this issue?
About the Pink Spot - http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperi...peria-z3-camera/td-p/839421?sl=y&sso_no_log=y
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About the Pink Spot - http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperi...peria-z3-camera/td-p/839421?sl=y&sso_no_log=y
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Yeah I'm aware of that issue and have it very slightly in low light situations against a white background. I went back and looked at some camera samples from a couple of reviews for the Z3 and it does appear that when images have content that is red the camera struggles to represent the true colour (i'm not sure how to explain this better). Red appear to be more like magenta or have a pink tint to them.
Am going to go to a couple of stores and see if I can recreate the effect. The issue with the pink spot may of course be adding to the problem i'm having.
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Yeah I'm aware of that issue and have it very slightly in low light situations against a white background. I went back and looked at some camera samples from a couple of reviews for the Z3 and it does appear that when images have content that is red the camera struggles to represent the true colour (i'm not sure how to explain this better). Red appear to be more like magenta or have a pink tint to them.
Am going to go to a couple of stores and see if I can recreate the effect. The issue with the pink spot may of course be adding to the problem i'm having.
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Should be possible to disentangle the two problems fairly easily; take a picture of the red book where the book is only on one side of the photo. Additionally, just take a picture of a grey wall.
Also, try playing with the white balance; using auto isn't really going to help. If there's not a manual option (i've not really played with the camera on my phone much yet) then try a few different settings and see if there's a pattern.
Lollipop brings support for RAW mode so these problems go away then, or are at least partially mitigated (at the cost of a little post-processing, anyway). Even the odd pink blob problem, if it turns out to be hardware related, could be almost entirely handled there.
Been busy but just managed to get back to the issue and photograph the book again.
It seems to be a white balance issue with Superior Auto mode not selecting the correct white balance setting for the image. The first image I took was with Superior Auto mode selected and the second image with Manual mode and white balance set to cloudy. It was an interior shot and not a particularly sunny day outside but the second image with Manual Mode is a better representation of the colour of the book. I even notice this outside and will take try and get some more shots to show the issue.
I'm disappointed that the Superior Auto mode isn't picking the correct balance. The reds appear to have a cool blue feel to them, and I bought the Z3 so I could have a phone with a above average camera on it that I can pull out and capture moment without worrying too much about the settings. Maybe i'm being over critical but it seems to struggle in areas that even my girlfriends iPhone 4s has no problem with.
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Been busy but just managed to get back to the issue and photograph the book again.
It seems to be a white balance issue with Superior Auto mode not selecting the correct white balance setting for the image. The first image I took was with Superior Auto mode selected and the second image with Manual mode and white balance set to cloudy. It was an interior shot and not a particularly sunny day outside but the second image with Manual Mode is a better representation of the colour of the book. I even notice this outside and will take try and get some more shots to show the issue.
I'm disappointed that the Superior Auto mode isn't picking the correct balance. The reds appear to have a cool blue feel to them, and I bought the Z3 so I could have a phone with a above average camera on it that I can pull out and capture moment without worrying too much about the settings. Maybe i'm being over critical but it seems to struggle in areas that even my girlfriends iPhone 4s has no problem with.
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I've not experimented with the camera too much. I've taken a few pictures in good light and without too critical an inspection they look fantastic. Your first image below looks as if it might suffer from the `pink dot` problem. You can't really tell because of the colour of the left part of the picture but it does look like it. If you tried that again on a white background perhaps it would be clearer. You could take a picture of a white piece of paper in different modes/white balances and see if there's a problem, and if so a pattern to the problem. If the problem is only in some white balances then it suggests it's not a hardware problem and therefore a software fix could sort it. From what I know, white balance is a software thing where RGB values are biased differently; perhaps there's a bug there. Auto white balance, even on professional cameras, isn't always perfect. I've an EOS400D camera and I tend to shoot in RAW mode (which will be supported in Lollipop) where the white balance selected is not "burnt in" to the image and can be changed losslessly in post production.
I went on a trip to the beach at the weekend and had to bin all my Superior Auto shots as they came out absolutely awful. All of the 20mp manual shots came out great if not a little over exposed on the sun
Try also turning off X-reality as it makes reds look a bit more purple.
I've found manual mode takes great pics and reproduces the colours brilliantly.
Try changing the white balance, manual mode is better, though even I like to just point and shoot. Hopefully auto mode will be fixed in an update.
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I went on a trip to the beach at the weekend and had to bin all my Superior Auto shots as they came out absolutely awful. All of the 20mp manual shots came out great if not a little over exposed on the sun
Try also turning off X-reality as it makes reds look a bit more purple.
I've found manual mode takes great pics and reproduces the colours brilliantly.
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Agreed. It's pretty awful, it's obviously not selecting the correct white balance mode. As you can see from the first pic below...it's ridiculously bad. The second is shot with Manual Mode and it a lot more acurate.
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Try changing the white balance, manual mode is better, though even I like to just point and shoot. Hopefully auto mode will be fixed in an update.
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Yes it is better. I guess i'll have to leave the camera setting on Manual as much as possible and just make a quick WB change before closing the shutter. I'll get in touch with Sony again and raise the issue although last time they just suggested a software repair which didn't really change anything. Like you said, hopefully the can release a software fix although, judging by their response to the pink spot issue I won't be holding my breath.
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Agreed. It's pretty awful, it's obviously not selecting the correct white balance mode. As you can see from the first pic below...it's ridiculously bad. The second is shot with Manual Mode and it a lot more acurate.
Yes it is better. I guess i'll have to leave the camera setting on Manual as much as possible and just make a quick WB change before closing the shutter. I'll get in touch with Sony again and raise the issue although last time they just suggested a software repair which didn't really change anything. Like you said, hopefully the can release a software fix although, judging by their response to the pink spot issue I won't be holding my breath.
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They still won't admit there's an issue until they found a solution so, I hope the Find one, this is my first phone that does that...
There is same issue on my device(46 week). is software or hardware? Does anyone know?
Try turning off image enhancements like x-reality or super vivid, then view image again.
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Try turning off image enhancements like x-reality or super vivid, then view image again.
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I tried. but issue keep going.
Also, I took photo in same settings with other Xperia z3.. The red colours always looks more real than my xperia . and i transfer these image my xperia and looks same real.
Camera hardware is faulty i think but tech service says software and Sony will update it. But Sony no say.
Red to Pink issue
I am pretty amazed this one has not been reported by more users. The sonysupport in Sweden is not aware of the issue, and although I send in pictures as well as the actual Xperia Z3 phone - they will still not admit the problem.
here goes. This is most likely an de-bayer problem creating pictures from the RAW sensor. I note that i bright daylight the RED colours gets over exposed in the process - and produces a pink result. I shadows the result is better.
Also note that the preview of the actually camera , probably generated in a different way internally , show more accurate colours than the the photo itself.
This is a good hint to the developers where the problem is.
With Lollipop 5.0 the api:s for RAW is no available. Sony has decided so far to not make them available in the Xperia version of the 5.02 version. But if they did, then 3;rd party developers could control this de.process from the sensor and produce much better pictures.
So hear hear, Sony developers and product managers . you can fix this - If you do, then the Xperia is truly the king of droids
come on!!
Mysterious92 said:
I tried. but issue keep going.
Also, I took photo in same settings with other Xperia z3.. The red colours always looks more real than my xperia . and i transfer these image my xperia and looks same real.
Camera hardware is faulty i think but tech service says software and Sony will update it. But Sony no say.
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Skaneby said:
I am pretty amazed this one has not been reported by more users.
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I have same issue as well. Picture finder shows nice red colors, but taken pictures are all pink. All image enhancements are off and camera in manual mode - it does not make noticeable improvement at all.
Its a disappointment, especially since phone's camera is reviewed as quite OK.
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Agreed. It's pretty awful, it's obviously not selecting the correct white balance mode. As you can see from the first pic below...it's ridiculously bad. The second is shot with Manual Mode and it a lot more acurate.
Yes it is better. I guess i'll have to leave the camera setting on Manual as much as possible and just make a quick WB change before closing the shutter. I'll get in touch with Sony again and raise the issue although last time they just suggested a software repair which didn't really change anything. Like you said, hopefully the can release a software fix although, judging by their response to the pink spot issue I won't be holding my breath.
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Hey. I'm also facing same issue. My Z3c isnt able to recognize Red color properly.
What exact setting you tried in manual mode to get your 2nd image right??
Same here. I have to set manual mode if I want to take precise pictures
nri_tech1183 said:
Hey. I'm also facing same issue. My Z3c isnt able to recognize Red color properly.
What exact setting you tried in manual mode to get your 2nd image right??
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Nowadays I usually go to manual mode and leave the white ballance set to auto. If the colour still looks off then I can adjust the white balance according to the conditions to get the right shot.
I pretty much never use Superior Auto mode for pictures now which is incredibly frustrating when you want to take a quick shot and you have to change the setting to manual. It's one of the few things that has annoyed me about the device. On some levels it's really good but on others it falls short. I want a device that can tsake great images in auto but that I can adjust and play with if I want.
A lot of new device coming out towards autumn. Am pretty resigned to the fact that i'm going to be trading in the Z3 for something else.
Has anyone else noticed significant lens flare during night shots with a source of light in the frame? It happens in day shots as well, but its less noticeable as the dot isn't in a dark/black background.
I realise lens flare is normal when shooting in a sunny conditions, but this was a night shot triggered by not a particularly bright porch light and the moon. For whatever reason the S7 cam seems to be particularly sensitive to it. And its not a normal corona type lens flare, but just a dot.... that depending on how I angled the phone, I could get to move around and see in the live view before I took the photo, some angles I could get it to go away (or at least out of frame).
I have the titanium silver S7, in a clear case. I wonder if it isn't an issue with some sort of reflection off the case?
Never noticed! Can you upload an example?
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Two examples.
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Here's a couple. The dots are marked. I think I know whats happening. These were taken on auto, so in determining the exposure, it raised ISO so it tended to capture more light that didn't look like it was there. The first one is a light blob is appearing on a spruce, it couldn't possibly reflect light, but the 2nd one similar, though there is a light varnish on the stair so it could reflect something back. I think its reflecting off the back of the phone, hence the more squarish appearance. My eyes didn't see that light though, so I don't know why the sensor picked it up.
First One:
imgur.com/i1eF0tj
2nd:
imgur.com/e1pa8v6
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Here's a couple. The dots are marked. I think I know whats happening. These were taken on auto, so in determining the exposure, it raised ISO so it tended to capture more light that didn't look like it was there. The first one is a light blob is appearing on a spruce, it couldn't possibly reflect light, but the 2nd one similar, though there is a light varnish on the stair so it could reflect something back. I think its reflecting off the back of the phone, hence the more squarish appearance. My eyes didn't see that light though, so I don't know why the sensor picked it up.
First One:
imgur.com/i1eF0tj
2nd:
imgur.com/e1pa8v6
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go back to the samsung store
has anyone else noticed this?
Weird Green banding in dark mode and low brightness
Did a factory reset for battery purposes and noticed this... didn't think i saw it before I reset it??
Soz for the bad pic but basically the left side has a big green tint
Yes... I think many of us have it. The display is also slightly yellowish when it is showing white colors when compared to Note 10+
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So odd that i didn't notice before
Could have sworn it wasn't there before I reset
podface said:
has anyone else noticed this?
Weird Green banding in dark mode and low brightness
Did a factory reset for battery purposes and noticed this... didn't think i saw it before I reset it??
Soz for the bad pic but basically the left side has a big green tint
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Some users have reported that in Reddit and SamMobile. I posted a thread a couple of weeks back here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...n-affected-t4153251/post83406075#post83406075
I have reported this in this forum as well. Mine is more a yellowish tint to the overall display. When you look at chrome or YouTube in dark mode, you'll notice the blacks aren't as deep. I have come across 3 different note 20 ultra with the issue which leads me to believe most if not all units have this even if not many ppl report it.
I saw it yesterday when its on low brightness and dark mode on. Even when watching prime video there is green tint though I brought whole green hue to 0
Any of my devices with amoleds look green to me. Must be 65 y.o. vision. Did the trick of turning down the green all the way. No dice.
I use a neat app from the play store called Screen Balance which is a Godsend. You can really fix the tinting with it. I like cooler colors without green and it does the job... but... the saturation and contrast in the Ultra just isn't up to snuff. I only notice it when I put the phone side by side with the Note 9. I have Screenbalance installed in both devices, and the 9 beats the Ultra firmly.
Thoughts or updates?
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Any of my devices with amoleds look green to me. Must be 65 y.o. vision. Did the trick of turning down the green all the way. No dice.
I use a neat app from the play store called Screen Balance which is a Godsend. You can really fix the tinting with it. I like cooler colors without green and it does the job... but... the saturation and contrast in the Ultra just isn't up to snuff. I only notice it when I put the phone side by side with the Note 9. I have Screenbalance installed in both devices, and the 9 beats the Ultra firmly.
Thoughts or updates?
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You don't need an app for colour filters, it's also in Settings > Accessibility > Visibility Enhancements > Add colour filter
And also in the same location > Colour Adjustment
*Detection* said:
You don't need an app for colour filters, it's also in Settings > Accessibility > Visibility Enhancements > Add colour filter
And also in the same location > Colour Adjustment
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All I saw was Add Color Lens but at the lowest number washed everything over with the chosen color. Same with color adjustment-barely any changes with the sliders even though I do have the green at zero.
That app is the ticket for me. It has various filters for different screens and the one I chose I adjust for *just* a hint of blue-takes out the greenish without putting a visible tint over everything. I do it on every device I have and for me, works great. Believe me, I've tried everything with every amoled and it's the most workable for me, and I'm anal about this stuff. :rolleyes
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All I saw was Add Color Lens but at the lowest number washed everything over with the chosen color. Same with color adjustment-barely any changes with the sliders even though I do have the green at zero.
That app is the ticket for me. It has various filters for different screens and the one I chose I adjust for *just* a hint of blue-takes out the greenish without putting a visible tint over everything. I do it on every device I have and for me, works great. Believe me, I've tried everything with every amoled and it's the most workable for me, and I'm anal about this stuff. :rolleyes
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Ah I'm running the Android 11 beta so looks like they renamed a few things, but they're the same settings, yes I tried those settings too and got the same effect, I assumed that was what the app did too, looks like it works a bit differently to the stock settings method.
Great you found a solution anyway
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Ah I'm running the Android 11 beta so looks like they renamed a few things, but they're the same settings, yes I tried those settings too and got the same effect, I assumed that was what the app did too, looks like it works a bit differently to the stock settings method.
Great you found a solution anyway
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Yeah, the app works reallt well. Did you try it?
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Yeah, the app works reallt well. Did you try it?
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I don't have the green tint issue thankfully, I did install it to have a look but the free version is limited to one colour and setting so couldn't explore it much, but have bookmarked it incase any future devices suffer from it, thanks.
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All I saw was Add Color Lens but at the lowest number washed everything over with the chosen color. Same with color adjustment-barely any changes with the sliders even though I do have the green at zero.
That app is the ticket for me. It has various filters for different screens and the one I chose I adjust for *just* a hint of blue-takes out the greenish without putting a visible tint over everything. I do it on every device I have and for me, works great. Believe me, I've tried everything with every amoled and it's the most workable for me, and I'm anal about this stuff. :rolleyes
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Thanks for the "Screen Balance" app! This app seems to be the only one that gives the fine tuning for white balance without turning Vivid mode ON. It has significantly reduced the yellow tint on my N20 Ultra. I did notice however that it makes the text on screen a little bit less sharp.
I don't have the green tint either. Was all in my head.
Then again maybe not. Lol. I see it and don't see it at night. Regardless of 120 or 60Hz.
VICosPhi said:
Thanks for the "Screen Balance" app! This app seems to be the only one that gives the fine tuning for white balance without turning Vivid mode ON. It has significantly reduced the yellow tint on my N20 Ultra. I did notice however that it makes the text on screen a little bit less sharp.
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I did by going into visibility enhancements, personalized & chose the colours & voila natural mode is now much more white & saturated.
RISHI RAJ said:
I did by going into visibility enhancements, personalized & chose the colours & voila natural mode is now much more white & saturated.
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I did that also, but there was still significant yellow tint. The app helped me reduce the yellow tint quite a bit
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Well the green tint keeps coming and going on mine.
Noticeable at low light and night time usage when device is in dark mode. Sent it back., I’m nothaving this issue hover over my head with no warranty after dropping over 4 digits on this device.
Limeybastard said:
Well the green tint keeps coming and going on mine.
Noticeable at low light and night time usage when device is in dark mode. Sent it back., I’m nothaving this issue hover over my head with no warranty after dropping over 4 digits on this device.
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Sent it back for a replacement or returned it to go to a different phone ?
seczdbz said:
Sent it back for a replacement or returned it to go to a different phone ?
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I ordered another one, unfortunately USA model with crippled dual sim functionality. Least I have 12 months peace of mind now. Oh well...
Limeybastard said:
I ordered another one, unfortunately USA model with crippled dual sim functionality. Least I have 12 months peace of mind now. Oh well...
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Interesting.....I guess I'm one of the few lucky ones with no green tint or I'm just not noticing it....let us know how your new one is !!! The only "problem" I've had with mine is a little speck of dust inside the camera module but its not on the lens so it doesn't affect my pictures ??*