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Will root be achieved on ICS?

Hi!
For those of us with SBK v2...should we just upgrade to last OTA?
As in those working on achieving root will focus on ICS
What do you think?

If root is important I wouldn't upgrade until you know for certain ICS can be rooted. You'll simply lose your options if it's a problem.

its the bootloader that needs cracking, not the OS.
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wildestpixel said:
its the bootloader that needs cracking, not the OS.
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This is a question, not a statement but wouldn't keeping to a rootable rom with SBK2 still make sense? I could use Razorclaw with my tab until 8.6.5.21 but had to downgrade (a struggle) in order to reroot after update.

This is and has always been the solution for a device so difficult to root (you don't just oem unlock from fastboot!!!!).
Never flash anything that itself doesn't contain :
- Insecure kernel
- Superuser.apk
- Superuser binary
- Busybox
- FOTAKILL.apk
Which is essentially a custom rom even if otherwise stock.
For ICS - wait for the download to be intercepted from cache (OTA) or available on ASUS website in full and then let someone do the rooting of the ROM - just has someone like daoist has for TF.
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pjfriend said:
If root is important I wouldn't upgrade until you know for certain ICS can be rooted. You'll simply lose your options if it's a problem.
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ICS is just as simple to root as any other Android OS as far as the ROM goes. New kernels ranging 3.08 through 3.16 at present have the same structure for ro.secure=0 for making them insecure - they are the only real different bit. The ROMs vary little to GB or froyo in their build up.
I've rooted and insecured a couple of Nexus S ROMs on the Nexus S forum just to help people who don't want the pain of going back to stock, reinstalling CWM and root just to be able to use ICS (along with deodex, zipalign and small systemui.apk tweaks).
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Thanks, you are a great source of knowledge!
Very much appreciated.
So I have SBK 2, on 8.4.4.11
Should I stay there?
Thanks!
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I would get root ASAP and go to something like Prime 2.11.
Use the 8.6.6.19 update bought to light by pjfriend get rooted ASAP I suppose. Do it whilst the tools are available to do it and then protect it by going to custom ROM.
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Thanks, whenever I star visiting a new Subforum I`m so lost!
Gonna do that now.
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Hello,
First, DO NOT Apply ASUS's ICS Upgrade when it comes out, let the development community work on it first.
Almost EVERY Android Device has been rooted, even when it is unrootable. It just takes time​

Don't rely on the devs to help you when you already have the tools to help yourself!
For a while now people have been used to applying the OTA update and then relying on the dev community to root it again and reinstall CWM. This is pants-on-head retarded, guys. Why root it and install CWM in the first place if you're not going to use it? You have the powah!
First, get yourself to 8.6.5.19 (or 8.6.6.19, depending on your model)
Root it with Razorclaw.
Install Clockworkmod.
NEVER EVER APPLY AN OTA UPDATE FROM NOW ON
When ASUS releases a new update, someone will make a CWM version of it (that someone lately has been me ). All you have to do is wait for it to be posted, then flash it via clockworkmod. Bam! You get the update and you get to keep root.

I think what happens is people get antsy when a new update comes out and go all willy nilly installing stuff just to have it lol. So people dont go all willy nilly just wait a day or 2!

daoist said:
Don't rely on the devs to help you when you already have the tools to help yourself!
For a while now people have been used to applying the OTA update and then relying on the dev community to root it again and reinstall CWM. This is pants-on-head retarded, guys. Why root it and install CWM in the first place if you're not going to use it? You have the powah!
First, get yourself to 8.6.5.19 (or 8.6.6.19, depending on your model)
Root it with Razorclaw.
Install Clockworkmod.
NEVER EVER APPLY AN OTA UPDATE FROM NOW ON
When ASUS releases a new update, someone will make a CWM version of it (that someone lately has been me ). All you have to do is wait for it to be posted, then flash it via clockworkmod. Bam! You get the update and you get to keep root.
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Can we use these US roms on UK devices though?

Like daoist says in every instance patience.
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RambJoe said:
Can we use these US roms on UK devices though?
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Probably not!
I need the dlpkgfile for your device in order to make a CWM package that will work. Lots of people are interested in the WW variant, so I've been able to do those. There's a few other variants I know of, like DE and TW. I don't think they make a UK; you're probably on the WW.

daoist said:
Probably not!
I need the dlpkgfile for your device in order to make a CWM package that will work. Lots of people are interested in the WW variant, so I've been able to do those. There's a few other variants I know of, like DE and TW. I don't think they make a UK; you're probably on the WW.
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Yeah I think I'm WW.
Thanks.

as long as your roote once you should never have to root again... we will add ICS to our device just like we flash or install any rom to our advice.. with root already ther.... just as long as you dont update using official update or ruu file... you should be good for life! or if you send your **** to asus aint no tellin what it will come back on it
Edit : as for the ones that are bought with ics On them, only time will tell..
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daoist said:
Don't rely on the devs to help you when you already have the tools to help yourself!
For a while now people have been used to applying the OTA update and then relying on the dev community to root it again and reinstall CWM. This is pants-on-head retarded, guys. Why root it and install CWM in the first place if you're not going to use it? You have the powah!
First, get yourself to 8.6.5.19 (or 8.6.6.19, depending on your model)
Root it with Razorclaw.
Install Clockworkmod.
NEVER EVER APPLY AN OTA UPDATE FROM NOW ON
When ASUS releases a new update, someone will make a CWM version of it (that someone lately has been me ). All you have to do is wait for it to be posted, then flash it via clockworkmod. Bam! You get the update and you get to keep root.
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Can you downgrade from 8.6.5.21? I OTA'd with the assumption that I would still be able to root it. I know that B70 tablets with. 21 aren't rootable.

kynetx said:
Can you downgrade from 8.6.5.21? I OTA'd with the assumption that I would still be able to root it. I know that B70 tablets with. 21 aren't rootable.
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You can "upgrade" to 8.6.6.19 worldwide if you have a supported tablet.

If with the upgrade to ICS there is no format of the system partition involved, then it should be possible with OTA Rootkeeper to keep root after upgrade.

Upgrading AT&T Nexus S i9020A to ICS and then JB?

Hey all,
So I just bought a cheap Nexus S from a dude on Craigslist and want to update it to ICS via OTA, but it doesn't look like there's an update available from Gingerbread (very frustrating). I've heard that in order to upgrade the Nexus S on AT&T to JB, you've gotta have ICS first. How do I go about with this process? Or can I just flash a JB build from XDA here via CWM if I install it? Which is easier? Thanks guys!

sportsinger75 said:
Hey all,
So I just bought a cheap Nexus S from a dude on Craigslist and want to update it to ICS via OTA, but it doesn't look like there's an update available from Gingerbread (very frustrating). I've heard that in order to upgrade the Nexus S on AT&T to JB, you've gotta have ICS first. How do I go about with this process? Or can I just flash a JB build from XDA here via CWM if I install it? Which is easier? Thanks guys!
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If you want to have a clear stock ROM i think better flash stock.img, bootloader and radio via fastboot..
But if you prefere update via cmw also have a look at this.....
http://www.randomphantasmagoria.com/firmware/nexus-s/i9020a/
S.R.

I'm also considering upgrading I9020A from ICS to JB.
Currently I have custom AOKP rom.
Is it possible to flash stock JB over what I have now ? if yes, how ?

kalda01 said:
I'm also considering upgrading I9020A from ICS to JB.
Currently I have custom AOKP rom.
Is it possible to flash stock JB over what I have now ? if yes, how ?
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Yes its possible you must flash a full image..
I´ve posted a link above there you can find the images for your phone. you have to flash it via fastboot.
S.R.

If I flash a full image, do I loose Boot-Loader unlock ? Do I need to ROOT again and install CWM ?

sportsinger75 said:
Hey all,
So I just bought a cheap Nexus S from a dude on Craigslist and want to update it to ICS via OTA, but it doesn't look like there's an update available from Gingerbread (very frustrating). I've heard that in order to upgrade the Nexus S on AT&T to JB, you've gotta have ICS first. How do I go about with this process? Or can I just flash a JB build from XDA here via CWM if I install it? Which is easier? Thanks guys!
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This link explains how to have JB stock rooted. Just get the appropriate files for you phone, the OTA needed and your set. Good luck.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1785672
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how cheap did you get it for? I have a nexus s and im jealous considering how beautiful jelly bean is on it.

kalda01 said:
If I flash a full image, do I loose Boot-Loader unlock ? Do I need to ROOT again and install CWM ?
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you don´t loose bootloader unlock, but if you flash a plain jelly bean stock you loose cmw and root
because i think JB stock ROM ereases CMW . root you loose on stock ROM´s anyway...
so you can flash this rom as an alternative:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1784666
...it´s a stockROM with a few lttle features like boot in recovery menu or battery in %
all other stuff is stock ...it´s also pre rooted and deodexed......all you need...and it don´t erease cmw while installing..
you can try ...it´s your decision..
S.R.

Form EOS to US stock

my xoom was originally the wifi only asian version. I rooted and flashed Tiamat EOS 1.0.0. I am totally a noob and was only able to do these things due to the amazing help here at XDA. I am thinking I want to set up the xoom as a US wifi so I can get the JB updates. Is this relatively easy? How do I go about doing this. I have clockworkMOd and ROM manager, and can back up my current ROM.
Thanks in advance

Please post all questions in the Q & A section. Thanks! Thread moved.
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http://developer.motorola.com/products/software/

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1936534
Just use that, It's stock US WiFi with root added. If you've got ClockworkMod recovery installed and you're a noob then this is by far the easiest way to go.

matt4321 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1936534
Just use that, It's stock US WiFi with root added. If you've got ClockworkMod recovery installed and you're a noob then this is by far the easiest way to go.
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Is it true that this will work even though my zoom was originally an Asian version?

madmanrx said:
Is it true that this will work even though my zoom was originally an Asian version?
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It should be fine, but I can't guarantee anything.
I did at one point flash it on my UK WiFi Xoom and it worked fine. So you should be good

yes, i can flash the stock (with root) to my asian "Hongkong" MZ604, the only thing is i need to edit the build.prop prior flashing, change
"MZ604" to "Xoom"

[Q] Flashing AOKP 4.2.2 Full Functionality - Wanna make sure I'm doing this write

HI all,
I'm not new to the flashing game, but this asus device seems to be high maintenance.
I wanna install the AOKP 4.2.2 Full Functionality custom rom on my device. Here is how I plan to do it. Can someone verify that this procedure will work as I don't wanna ruin my tablet.
1. I'm gonna root my device using Unlock_v8.apk to unlock bootloader then recovery-jb.img to root.
2. I wanna use GooManager to flash the following files in this order
a) Aokp_R05.zip
b) gapps-jb-20130301-signed.zip
c) update.zip (to fix governor issue)
Thats it!! Will this work?
One last question. Is AOKP 4.2.2 Full Functionality a Build or a Milestone?
Thanking you in advance

sindahouse said:
1. I'm gonna root my device using Unlock_v8.apk to unlock bootloader then recovery-jb.img to root.
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Be careful, which bootloader do you have installed now?
If it is 4.2, recovery-jb.img may brick your device.
If it is 4.1, I think you need to use Unlock_V7.apk.
Also make sure, which bootloader is supported by the ROM you want to install.
That it has version 4.2 does not mean it will work with the Asus 4.2 bootloader.
There are several threads on upgrading/downgrading the bootloader.
Please read carefully!
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f69m said:
Be careful, which bootloader do you have installed now?
If it is 4.2, recovery-jb.img may brick your device.
If it is 4.1, I think you need to use Unlock_V7.apk.
Also make sure, which bootloader is supported by the ROM you want to install.
That it has version 4.2 does not mean it will work with the Asus 4.2 bootloader.
There are several threads on upgrading/downgrading the bootloader.
Please read carefully!
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Ok dumb question: How do I check the bootloader version. I am currently running JB 4.2.1. Does this mean I have boatloader 4.2?

sindahouse said:
Ok dumb question: How do I check the bootloader version. I am currently running JB 4.2.1. Does this mean I have boatloader 4.2?
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Not a dumb question!
Yes, if you are running Asus 4.2 stock ROM, you have bootloader 4.2.
Make sure to read the respective threads carefully. It is not well supported yet and many users bricked their devices by not reading carefully enough.
Specifically: keep away from CWM (recovery*.img) and use only the TWRP version patched specifically for BL 4.2.
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All roms out except based on stock 4.2.1
Require old bootloader. You need to downgrade
Sent from magical jelly bean.

Ok thank you all so much. You've been very helpful. I don't think I'm gonna root my tablet anymore. If i have to downgrade boatloader, then flash it.. It just sounds like its high maintenance. I'll just tolerate it for now. I may revisit this option at another time. Is downgrading boatloader a pain in the butt? Thank u for letting know about my boatloafer version, which recovery to root & about the downgrading of boatloaders. You've all been so very helpful. Thank you.
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kaos420 said:
All roms out except based on stock 4.2.1
Require old bootloader. You need to downgrade
Sent from magical jelly bean.
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Thank you Kaos420. I actually am interested in flashing AOKP 4.2.2. Judging on what you've said, that custom rom should be ok with my boatloader. Is that correct?

f69m said:
Not a dumb question!
Yes, if you are running Asus 4.2 stock ROM, you have bootloader 4.2.
Make sure to read the respective threads carefully. It is not well supported yet and many users bricked their devices by not reading carefully enough.
Specifically: keep away from CWM (recovery*.img) and use only the TWRP version patched specifically for BL 4.2.
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Thank You f69m. I now know what boatloader I have, so thank you. I'll try and find the TWRP version patched for BL4.2
Thanx again

sindahouse said:
Thank you Kaos420. I actually am interested in flashing AOKP 4.2.2. Judging on what you've said, that custom rom should be ok with my boatloader. Is that correct?
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Judging from your other comments, you have the new boot loader 4.2, right?
Sorry, but then AOKP 4.2.2 is not for you without downgrading.
For installing TWRP and/or downgrading, use this thread as a starting point; it links to others.
Of course you can skip the part about upgrading to 4.2 boot loader, scroll down a little!
[GUIDE] Update/Recovery/Root/Downgrade Android 4.2.1 on Unlocked/Locked Devices
If you don't want to downgrade, this thread lists the two ROMs that are currently compatible with your bootloader:
[WARINING] DO NOT install a recovery from 4.1 on a 4.2 tablet!
Or you might want to just wait a little. Seems Asus finally released the new kernel source code, so there should soon be more ROMs supporting the new 4.2 boot loader.

Thank u f69m again youve been so very helpful. I really dont like the latest update on the tablet. My tab seems to be very slow. I think i will downgrade the boatloader and install aokp 4.2.2..
If i could just ask though, how on earth do u guyz check boatloader versions?
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sindahouse said:
Thank u f69m again youve been so very helpful. I really dont like the latest update on the tablet. My tab seems to be very slow. I think i will downgrade the boatloader and install aokp 4.2.2..
If i could just ask though, how on earth do u guyz check boatloader versions?
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Just depends on what fimware version your on if your on 4.21 then your on the newest bootloader just downgrade back to 4.1.1 to be on the last one to us aokp 4.2.2

[Q] ICS to Jellybean

Im trying to update my TF300T to a jellybean rom and im a bit confused. im currently an AOSP ICS rom from when i first rooted this tablet but since i havent messed with it since them im a bit lost. i updated TWRP to the latest ics one and i tried installing Paranoid android and it just bootlooped. Luckily i backuped my rom. So can anyone point me in the right direction please? any help would be appreciated

First of all, since you're apparently both unlocked and still on the ICS bootloader, take some time to go through the NVFlash process here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1894867
That will come in handy if you accidentally flash the wrong recovery later on (or do anything else that could brick your tablet). I'm sure you've seen the many "I bricked my TF300T" threads, so do yourself a favor, and do the NVFlash backup.
Now, once you've gotten the NVFlash out of the way (it's extremely important that you do the NVFlash backups first, because you can't go back and do them later), we can upgrade you to Jellybean. The easiest way, IMO, is to boot your tablet into fastboot, and flash the stock ASUS firmware (specifically, the first version of 10.x) that way. If you search the forum for "fastboot stock firmware", you should find at least a couple good guides on how to do that.
Once you're on the stock firmware, you can just update via the OTA method. Download the firmware you need (I suggest doing this incrementally, so get each individual update), unzip it, and put the resulting zip file on the root of either your external SD card or the internal storage (doesn't matter). If the tablet doesn't notify you of an update, just reboot. When you get the update notification, accept it, and it'll flash like a normal OTA. Just do this until you're up to date.
Keep in mind, if you go up to the 10.6.x.x firmware (Android 4.2), your only AOSP option will be a mostly-but-not-completely functional CM10.1. So, you may want to stay on the newest 4.1 firmware (10.4.2.20, I believe) until all the issues are ironed out.

Bloodykiller86 said:
Im trying to update my TF300T to a jellybean rom and im a bit confused. im currently an AOSP ICS rom from when i first rooted this tablet but since i havent messed with it since them im a bit lost. i updated TWRP to the latest ics one and i tried installing Paranoid android and it just bootlooped. Luckily i backuped my rom. So can anyone point me in the right direction please? any help would be appreciated
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Can you access fastboot?

Alright awesome thanks that answered a bunch of my questions. And one more thing so since youre saying if I go to the latest update if be limited to just cm10, what about paranoid android rom in saw in dev section. Would that work on the 4.1 update? Or do I have to go to 4.2 to use that rom? I know it's not really a help question per she but just wanna make sure I don't waste any time lol
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Bloodykiller86 said:
Alright awesome thanks that answered a bunch of my questions. And one more thing so since youre saying if I go to the latest update if be limited to just cm10, what about paranoid android rom in saw in dev section. Would that work on the 4.1 update? Or do I have to go to 4.2 to use that rom? I know it's not really a help question per she but just wanna make sure I don't waste any time lol
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Almost every AOSP ROM, including the official CM10.1, requires the 4.1 bootloader. They are stable. The CM for the 4.2 bootloader is in testing stages still, but I believe that the only thing that's broken now is the camera. Regardless, stick to the 4.1 OTA for now if you want a wide selection of AOSP ROMs.

EndlessDissent said:
Almost every AOSP ROM, including the official CM10.1, requires the 4.1 bootloader. They are stable. The CM for the 4.2 bootloader is in testing stages still, but I believe that the only thing that's broken now is the camera. Regardless, stick to the 4.1 OTA for now if you want a wide selection of AOSP ROMs.
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Okay awesome thanks guys you helped me out a lot. Now to make this tablet run awesome cuz on ics it sucks especially with the rotation bug lol
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So I'm trying to do the nvflash but when I do the first fast boot command it just sits at waiting for device ugh -_-
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And it sees the fast boot driver in device manager so its not like its not seeing it but ugh.....any ideas? Should I update to the latest ICS update from Asus?
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It wouldn't hurt. Also make sure you're using the newest version of fastboot.

Where can I get it? Just update the one from android SDK?
Edit: nvm duh from SDK lol and I upgraded to latest ICS image and it worked! Thanks again
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