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Question/opinions about ril's and att?

Just updated my radio and ril. I just flashed my first rom( gingerbeast) yesterday. Today I did my first radio and ril. I followed the recommended chart and updated to the latest att radio(06.06.30-M) and the recommended ril 2.2.0079hm.
My question is I noticed in several members signature and they are also running the latest radio but a lot are running the 2.2.0018G with gingerbeast? Am I missing something, have y'all getting better performance with this ril?
I do understand that all phones are different etc...just looking for opinions and personal limes.

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The 18G ril is for AOSP ROMs
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Can someone tell me what is AOSP rom or source. I googled but no luck. I have seen this mentioned in other post.

swatcop1 said:
Can someone tell me what is AOSP rom or source. I googled but no luck. I have seen this mentioned in other post.
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It is Android Open Source Program (I think) its the way Google made it and then HTC added there stuff to it.
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The Gingerbeast is a AOSP hybird ([rom/kernel] * GingerBeast * -AOSP hybrid- 2.1.2 according to the developer) so should I be using the other ril that I stated above?
Thanks for replies!! and help!

swatcop1 said:
The Gingerbeast is a AOSP hybird ([rom/kernel] * GingerBeast * -AOSP hybrid- 2.1.2 according to the developer) so should I be using the other ril that I stated above?
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Yes you should use the 18G one
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Thanks I will install the 2.2.0018G ril now....

swatcop1 said:
Thanks I will install the 2.2.0018G ril now....
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No problem good luck
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Thanks for your expertise, will watch all day tomorrow and see how it performs.

swatcop1 said:
Thanks for your expertise, will watch all day tomorrow and see how it performs.
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You may need to watch it a little longer than a day, just so you know. This allows for the radio changes to "settle in," and also gives some leeway to allow for any ATT/network signal inconsistencies that day that might color your evaluation of the radios performance.
Hopefully you had a somewhat good idea of how your previous radio/signal would perform in areas you frequent regularly, so you'll be better able to determine whether, over the course of several days, your signal appears more or less jumpy, stronger/weaker in those familiar areas.
Also, at least when editing the build.prop file, and perhaps when when flashing radios/RILs, as it's related, I've seen it recommended to reboot not once, but *twice*, after flashing. Apparently something needs that second reboot to "kick in."
Like I said, I'm not quite sure if the reboot twice thing necessarily applies to radios/RILs, but I do it twice, just in case.
It certainly can't hurt...

Will do, thanks for suggestion and your time. Excited to learn about these things.

swatcop1 said:
Will do, thanks for suggestion and your time. Excited to learn about these things.
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No problem.
Just don't slack on checking them MD5's, first, whatever it is.

Why flash roms?

So I was just wondering why would we flash roms? I mean the current stock os is almost bug free + when flashing roms we are faced with some major bugs sometimes.
I know that we would have the choice to remove bloatware, cutomise status bar, and sometime oc. That's all nice but still I don't see why not leave it as is?
Please excuse my ignorance. I just came from a rooted Dinc w/ miui
And I wanna have a better understanding.
Thanks
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/05/01/custom-roms-for-android-explained-and-why-you-want-them/

For me it's the freedom to do with my phone what I want. These developers kick out some sweet features that we'll never see from a stock ROM, and they get us the latest software before the manufacturers. I bug here or there is well worth it for me, and if it's to bad you can always revert. If you prefer the stock experience, than by all means leave it alone. But me, I'm a tinkerer. Be it a car, truck, bike... or yes, even a phone, I can't leave well enough alone.

Because we can

To pick up chicks......I haven't met one yet that's not turned on by 48+ mflops!
Can't do that with stock.....

This might seem like an odd answer... I flash so I can have a standard interface on my phones. I've had a droid, droid x, and thunderbolt in the last year and a half (my company does some android development on in house apps for one of our clients, and we go through a lot of test phones). having something close to a stock interface minimizes the daily annoyances of moving between those phones.... which is why I use the aosp roms.
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iakamand said:
So I was just wondering why would we flash roms? I mean the current stock os is almost bug free + when flashing roms we are faced with some major bugs sometimes.
I know that we would have the choice to remove bloatware, cutomise status bar, and sometime oc. That's all nice but still I don't see why not leave it as is?
Please excuse my ignorance. I just came from a rooted Dinc w/ miui
And I wanna have a better understanding.
Thanks
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Wait, you came from a phone that you rooted and flashed MIUI on, but don't understand why others choose to not stay stock

Why??? that's not the correct question. The correct question is why not!

g00s3y said:
Wait, you came from a phone that you rooted and flashed MIUI on, but don't understand why others choose to not stay stock
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My thoughts exactly.
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hey guys...i'm coming from virus' latest synergy rom with sense 3.0 overclocked to 1.4 and i'm wondering...why do you guys root your phone anyways?????

patdroid1 said:
hey guys...i'm coming from virus' latest synergy rom with sense 3.0 overclocked to 1.4 and i'm wondering...why do you guys root your phone anyways?????
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I'm in the same boat. I just can't figure it out.

Cuz girls dig guys who flash roms

Pretty simple, I get rid of most of the stock crap, my battery lasts 30 to 40% longer, and it allows some independence
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New injectheory out!!
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That's simple: more crackflashing = less crack smoking.
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My Tbolt rebooted 3-4 times a day after the OTA update.
Hadn't had any reboots with MR2 and now MR2.5 radio and various roms.

Funny
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I rooted mine so people that smoke too much crack could ask me why

For me? Customization and battery life.

Number 1 reason on the Thunderbolt ... I prefer AOSP/CM7 over Sense.

Where the hell is my OTA market update

It has to be about 2 months now and i haven't received a OTA notification for the 3.x update of the market app I'm still running the stock 2.3.6 version, anybody know what's up with this?
And yea i know i can get a ripped .apk from just about anywhere dealing with android info, but I'm trying to not do that this time around
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gguy1 said:
It has to be about 2 months now and i haven't received a OTA notification for the 3.x update of the market app I'm still running the stock 2.3.6 version, anybody know what's up with this?
And yea i know i can get a ripped .apk from just about anywhere dealing with android info, but I'm trying to not do that this time around
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good luck with waiting

I am in the same boat with you still have not gotten a market update from the default.

Be grateful guys and enjoy the good old market. New one simply sucks and lags as mad!

messer19 said:
Be grateful guys and enjoy the good old market. New one simply sucks and lags as mad!
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+1.
New market is just painfully slow. Sure it looks nice but even with good 3G/4G or WiFi it takes forever to load sometimes.

Not for me...
DeoreDX said:
+1.
New market is just painfully slow. Sure it looks nice but even with good 3G/4G or WiFi it takes forever to load sometimes.
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I don't know why you've got lag. I'm using baadnewz insertcoin ROM with the new market, and it's fast as ****. Perhaps you should change to a better ROM

grahamkdt said:
I don't know why you've got lag. I'm using baadnewz insertcoin ROM with the new market, and it's fast as ****. Perhaps you should change to a better ROM
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Funny I'm using Insertcoin 3.4.0 that you have listed in your sig. It's just the new market is much more image intensive and take a while to initially load. I speed test in the 4-6mbps range with my HSPA+ and it still takes a few seconds of watching the "loading" screen when I first launch market. On edge it can take 10-15 seconds.

I wasn't aware that the market actually notified you about there being the actual market updates, I thought it updated itself silently behind the scenes.
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it probably doesn't notify but i haven't even received the behind the scenes update... it's kind of ridiculous to wait this long when they've already updated the new version 2 times over....
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gguy1 said:
it probably doesn't notify but i haven't even received the behind the scenes update... it's kind of ridiculous to wait this long when they've already updated the new version 2 times over....
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The new market has the same apps as the old market. U mad.
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TMO News Report: No ICS Upgrade until at least mid June

http://www.tmonews.com/2012/04/t-mo...-ice-cream-sandwich-upcoming-device-launches/
If the Sensation ICS update date of 6/16 is accurate this just shows what a clusterf*** T-Mobile USA and HTC both are. Another 2 months before ICS comes to the Sensation, to be honest at this point, I don't buy that date. I think it's just being leaked to try to shut up those of us Sensation owners who have been expecting it in the the near term. I have major doubts whether T-Mobile and HTC for whatever reasons, will release the update ever. Clearly the proper resources are not being committed to this project. Very disappointed.

The tmo sgs2 isn't getting it till mid May so a mid June date isn't too impossible. Such crap on tmo and HTCs part.
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Thank God for custom roms

Well I think this might have just ended me waiting. I will hold out a little while longer just to see but it is looking more and more like I ARHD is in my close future.

T-Macgnolia said:
ARHD is in my close future.
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Oh come on... Stop holding out and come to the dark side! Just think, if you flash it today you'll have about 1.5 months to test and see if you like it.

You guys need to start flashing and enjoying ICS! Been using it for months and couldn't live with out it

flash arhd
Have been using it for awhile now and loving it. Rooting is easy, IF you take the time to read the instructions.
You will love it.

Why this mater ???? S-off and no need to wait I got ics 3.6 and 4.0 **** T-Mobile
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T-Macgnolia said:
Well I think this might have just ended me waiting. I will hold out a little while longer just to see but it is looking more and more like I ARHD is in my close future.
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Same here. I've held out as long as I could
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All the leaked and released ics i tried had a bluetoith problem when I switch from listen or music to phone and vice versa. Only the reason I stick to gingerbread is the bt problem. I expected the issue solved in tmo ics. Now I will give up ics at all or just flash the other ics release. There is no third option for now. :')
Anyone who doesn't have bt problem when switching other apps to phone on ics? If so which rom do you use? Thanks in advance.
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this is getting ridiculous

GROGG88 said:
Oh come on... Stop holding out and come to the dark side! Just think, if you flash it today you'll have about 1.5 months to test and see if you like it.
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Yes join us then your transformation to the dark side will be complete. I have been using ARHD for a good few months. And havent gone back to stock sense. Once you flash you can't go back. So listen to your inner Darth and flash
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Sinistra425 said:
Yes join us then your transformation to the dark side will be complete. I have been using ARHD for a good few months. And havent gone back to stock sense. Once you flash you can't go back. So listen to your inner Darth and flash
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I guess nobody has paid attention to my sig over the weekend. I switched over the day this thread got started. But I think I will run ARHD for a day or two more. But I am finding somethings in Sense 3.6 I don't like so I will be flashing a ASOP ROM soon.

T-Macgnolia said:
I guess nobody has paid attention to my sig over the weekend. I switched over the day this thread got started. But I think I will run ARHD for a day or two more. But I am finding somethings in Sense 3.6 I don't like so I will be flashing a ASOP ROM soon.
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Your Sig dose not show on tapatalk or the XDA apps my apologies
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ori2 said:
All the leaked and released ics i tried had a bluetoith problem when I switch from listen or music to phone and vice versa. Only the reason I stick to gingerbread is the bt problem. I expected the issue solved in tmo ics. Now I will give up ics at all or just flash the other ics release. There is no third option for now. :')
Anyone who doesn't have bt problem when switching other apps to phone on ics? If so which rom do you use? Thanks in advance.
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I thought bt problems were only with sense4.0 roms?

I just got this phone, and I'm torn as to whether it's worth it to flash now or just wait for the update. I had ICS on my 4g slide, and I'm sure it would make this phone rock, but I'm not sure there is a real reason to switch now instead of wait for a fully stable version
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ziddey said:
I thought bt problems were only with sense4.0 roms?
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You can easily reproduce the bt problem with any sense 3.6 or 4.0, even with the htc release of ics without root or anything. If anyone is interested in the issue, try this to reproduce the issue. 1) open google listen with bluetooth on. 2) just play any items not downloaded (streaming it). 3) press home to go to home screen. 4) try calling anyone. 5) you can see a huge delay on calling or receiving, almost freeze. 6) if your calling was ok, then check whether the listen items continue to play after call.
In this process, I faced a lot of delays of switching listen to phone and vice versa. Force closes sometimes occurred. Force reset was occasionally needed for me to use the phone normally again. If you do not use bluetooth, it will be no problem at all. But if you use bt a lot like me, this issue is really annoying.
I wonder if it is only me to experience the issue with bluetooth and ics.

Tmobile is going to make you guys wait until their new phones, packing ICS, have been out for awhile. Why spend money on a phone that is EOL? The new phones have very very little up on the sensation. To give the sensation ICS now would make it a huge competitor of their new phones.
Root and be done with it.

And is only going to be 3.6. 4.0 for sensation isn't even mentioned.. energy Rom ics with faux latest kernal no bt problems other than you can't voice dial still.. faux has been working on the bt
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This is why from now on, my device will be a Nexus device. Carrier branded devices are not the way to go. Its like your at the mercy of a carrier to release an update (See G2X). Look at Verizon Galaxy Nexus still stuck on 4.0.3 while the Unlocked GSM branded Galaxy Nexus's are up to date with 4.0.4. After this Sensation 4G, Im getting a Nexus...
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[Q] Doubleshot Android 4.0.4 Sense4.1+4A Base Ville_U_ICS_40_S_2.31.401.5

I recently flashed this ROM and it appears to work pretty well. I'm just curious to know if anyone else has tried it? The only issue I see so far is some apps lag a little, but the battery life appears to be adequate. Total noob here so wanted to say thanks for all you guys do. Been coming to this site for a while since it's full of great resources.

No I haven't tried it, I am still S-ON and not sure how to flash with it on, when I get s-off ill like to try untill then have you experienced any glitches or fc's or anything?
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freefallpunk said:
I recently flashed this ROM and it appears to work pretty well. I'm just curious to know if anyone else has tried it? The only issue I see so far is some apps lag a little, but the battery life appears to be adequate. Total noob here so wanted to say thanks for all you guys do. Been coming to this site for a while since it's full of great resources.
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I just flashed this ROM yesterday. The only issue I had was with the headphones (it would detect my favorite ones as Beats, but then there would be no sound. Cheap phones would produce sound, but not my good ones). The dev (sun_dream) quickly offered a patch that fixed this issue so now this ROM is my "daily driver". I'm not noticing any lag, it is running very well. I haven't had a chance to ascertain battery life yet. I do enjoy the look and feel of this, ICS with Sense 4.1. Note, you can switch to Sense 4.0a if you like using the HTC Sense ST app. From what I hear, Sense 4.0a is a little less resource intensive so could give you a little bit more responsive feel. I'm not sure what you sacrifice, though.
So far the only things that don't work: Face Unlock is really buggy with this. And the Gracenote app to download album covers for the built in Music app doesn't seem to download anything. And HTC Hub never finds anything to download. Those are very minor quibbles I can live with.
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soldierexile said:
No I haven't tried it, I am still S-ON and not sure how to flash with it on, when I get s-off ill like to try untill then have you experienced any glitches or fc's or anything?
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You can flash it while being S-ON. All you need to do is extract the boot.img from the ZIP file. Flash the ROM as normal, then use Fastboot to flash the boot.img separately. There is a good guide on here that tells you exactly how to do it.

So do youu guys like this rom better than vituous?
And can u guys give me the link to the rom and updates. Patches?
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fozzy501 said:
So do youu guys like this rom better than vituous?
And can u guys give me the link to the rom and updates. Patches?
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I finally had to go back to a stock-based Gingerbread ROM (my old standby Miktouch 0.7). This ICS Sense4 ROM just had too many little "gotchas" that made it unstable. The fix for the earphones cause it to completely crash if you try to record any sound. Everytime I tried to use an app like Soundhound or Shazam or MusixMatch, the phone would instantly reboot. I just discovered that is due to the patch that makes the earphones work.
I guess if you don't mind a portion of your phone being unusable, these ICS ROMs would be OK. For me, personally, I want all of the phone to work as it should, so I'm going back to stock ROM.

I haven't had the same experience with the headphones issue. So far my Subjekt phones have worked fine and no FC's. As far as the ROM goes the lag has seemed to have disappeared and I blocked some apps & processes using Gemini App Mgr. The Face Unlock is buggy for me as well. So far no other problems.

Fuzi0719 said:
You can flash it while being S-ON. All you need to do is extract the boot.img from the ZIP file. Flash the ROM as normal, then use Fastboot to flash the boot.img separately. There is a good guide on here that tells you exactly how to do it.
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Cool, thanks found out how, also realised a easier way then the guide I found, just because it means less typing for me in cmd

fozzy501 said:
So do youu guys like this rom better than vituous?
And can u guys give me the link to the rom and updates. Patches?
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You really should read the thread. It will give you alot more insight than just having the files. It's just a good habit to get into.

This rom seems interesting. So does everything work including the ffc, all camara features, and everything else? other than the gracenote and headphone thing?

lifebound said:
This rom seems interesting. So does everything work including the ffc, all camara features, and everything else? other than the gracenote and headphone thing?
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There is no 1080 recording on any ICS. So everything but that and maybe tethering
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strapped365 said:
There is no 1080 recording on any ICS. So everything but that and maybe tethering
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Thats fine i guess.