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Just to start off the problem I am having is prevalent in all 2.1 stock sense hero roms. There is so much keyboard lag in the sense messaging app that it is pretty much useless. You really can't type the way you want too. Considering I use my phone pretty much for text messaging and music, this has destroyed my opinion of the phone. Sprint was so excited about this phone and gave up on it within 7 months. Considering all contracts last for 2 years (if you want the good upgrade prices), don't you think it would be the ethical thing to do to keep a phone updated for at least that duration. This is a $500 dollar phone that can't text message correctly.
Alright after my ranting now down to the problem. I feel like the #/160 character counter right above the send button is the issue causing the terrible keyboard lag. I rarely do texts over 160 characters so I really don't need this. I remember back in the day of my touch diamond, there was an .xml mod you could do to eliminate the character counter which sped up the texting perfectly. I have no idea how to go through all the .xml's and .pngs of the apks but I figured someone in here could help. Basically I want the character counter to be removed to see if this is the problem. I do have only prediction on, no vibrate or sound, and it still lags out of control. It happens on every sense rom I've tried (and trust me I've tried them all). This does not happen in any of the AOSP based roms such as Cyanogen and Aospmod with the stock android Mms.apk, where there is no character counter. I tried pushing that to my phone an I like it but it just doesn't match up with the rest of the sense, plus it doesn't have the message counter option on the icon which i really like. I pretty much came to this conclusion when i used both of Zen's ports, Aria and MT3G, and I had absolutely no lag when texting. Both roms have different framework i understand which doesn't allow me to push either of the MMs.apk's from either of these roms to my hero stock 2.1. I am using IcedHoneyBun with Zens' any rom Kernel right now but it happened in NfinitiFX's rom too. ONCE AGAIN I NEVER USE VIBRATE OR SOUND so please don't mention that as a fix.
I am posting the Mms.apk below. If somebody can help me I would be glad to donate.
you might want to post this on android central, Beezy420 build icedhoneybun, and he might be able to fix it for you. Although i blieve hes mostly developing for EVO now, he is still around. Post in his honeybun thread.
The Mac said:
you might want to post this on android central, Beezy420 build icedhoneybun, and he might be able to fix it for you. Although i blieve hes mostly developing for EVO now, he is still around. Post in his honeybun thread.
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I know beezy built it but it has nothing to do with the rom. It has everything to do with the stock sense Mms.apk. More hero users use xda than any other site thats why i posted it here.
I *highly* doubt that a simple character counter is causing the delay. First of all, that only makes sense if the keyboard is *completely* lag-free in all other "known-good" apps.
Handcent's text messaging app also has a character count... have you tried that app?
Can you type without any lag in a basic notepad application? Make sure you have all of the same auto-correction and spelling options enabled.
HTC MMS is laggy as hell!!! This isn't "the fix" but it should help somewhat. Turn off ur notifications and auto-retrieve in stock MMS then go into your stock app manager under settings~~>manage apps and force stop Messaging. Now download either Handcent or Chomp from the market cuz they r pretty much the same. Then remove the stock messaging shortcut from your desktop if u have one just so it's outta your way. A good portion of the lag should be gone. Clocking ur cpu higher if u use a clockable kernel will help reduce keyboard lag too.
x99percent said:
I *highly* doubt that a simple character counter is causing the delay. First of all, that only makes sense if the keyboard is *completely* lag-free in all other "known-good" apps.
Handcent's text messaging app also has a character count... have you tried that app?
Can you type without any lag in a basic notepad application? Make sure you have all of the same auto-correction and spelling options enabled.
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I mean my keyboard is lag free in any other application except ones that require per letter searching such as google search. I just feel like getting rid of the character counter would help a great deal just because you are absorbing a but of memory after ever letter you type. I really don't know what is the cause. I don't like chomp or handcent i've tried them both. Not as much lag but there is still some lag. I just wanted to see if this was the problem and then go from there.
I would love for someone to pull the counter out of the HTC mms app. I will also gladly donate.
...still willing to donate...
Not possible. I'm using a GSM port of the Legend 2.1 build, and there is no 160 count at all, and it runs no better/worse than the older one. (The only reason it loads faster is because I'm using Zen's Any Kernel)
anything is possible and we wont know until it happens
tailsthecat3 said:
anything is possible and we wont know until it happens
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Except, this doesn't make much sense. MMaybe I haven't used a CDMA ROM in a while, but I distinctly remember the HTC Messaging app always being a bit sluggish.
You should try swype its great and quick as hell! =]
Has nothing to do with what you are saying. My brother has a Droid Eris with the same messaging app and its flawless. Maybe ours will get fixed in the update rolling out
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There are plenty of themes for the messaging widget, making it more transparent or changing the colors of the buttons to access it, but the inside of the app itself is still white and uninteresting.
So, can someone please theme one? Or, if it's been done, send me to where I can find a themed stock messaging app? Maybe a black background and green text? or hell a black background and many options as to the color of the text. Just something that isn't that drab white. It doesn't go with any rom I've flashed.
If anyone can do it, thank you!!!
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is this really not possible?
I think this is why people use the alternative messaging apps. Theming in handcent and Chomp SMS is built in.
What's so great about the stock messaging app that you prefer it, anyway?
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Stock is better been looking for this too
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I would love a black stock messaging mod. Everything would be easy but gettin the text white.
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shogun26 said:
I think this is why people use the alternative messaging apps. Theming in handcent and Chomp SMS is built in.
What's so great about the stock messaging app that you prefer it, anyway?
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1. The widget is full screen, transparent and simple. Hancent you consistently have to click on the little picture, then menu, then "all threads"...it's annoying. Also, in most themed sense roms, the widget is themed but not the app itself. So in myn's rom, everything is dark and transparent...but when you open the app, it's boring and white. It's like you're only trying to make the home screens look better and nothing else. Also, you can't theme the widgets from chomp or handcent, so unless your theme happens to look like their widgets, it looks out of place and you're boned anyway.
2. Handcent and Chomp have ads. Ads are annoying and make the product look cheap. I even paid for chompsms ads to go away and they came back. I left a strongly worded e-mail...and review...and i tell people not to get it.
3. the stock app is faster and takes up less space than the 3rd party ones and can't be uninstalled. You HAVE to have it, so why can't someone spend some time and make an app you HAVE to have look a little better?
4. Gmail, menus, the drawer launcher, the drawer itself and various other stock programs are themed all the way through, why not the messaging app too?
I would ask for the stock sense mail app too but I don't use it enough to really care. The messaging app I use 200 times a day minimum.
+1 on modding the stock messaging app
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dadoc04 said:
+1 on modding the stock messaging app
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also i just like stock wjhich is why i went to AOSP in the first place!!! I just wish the stock messaging icon displayed number of text and stuff like that... i miss that from sense... can enyone add that!
I would love this as well!
Rydah805 said:
I would love a black stock messaging mod. Everything would be easy but gettin the text white.
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Also, I meant that I would like a black stock sense messaging app.
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I love the look of the stock messaaging app in CM6 and would like to have the same thing on a sense rom. Im sure its possible some how.
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devs, there's a call for a modded messaging app (not just the widget!).
Who is brave enough to heed the call? CM already has one but it's aosp, we need a sense one.
Please? Anyone? Bueller?
I've always wanted this also. I didn't think it was possible since no one has a themed mms.apk in their rom, so I never posted about it. I did use the cm6 version of AOSP but for some reason mms never worked. Hopefully some of the great developers on xda can get this done for us.
k done with theming it
:edit: it looks nice but after theming it doesn't work constant force-close
Sinistertensai said:
k done with theming it
:edit: it looks nice but after theming it doesn't work constant force-close
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You, sir, rock!
Oh yeah, this is another *bump*
If you need a tester, I'll be around IRC all day tomorrow. The words "bad" and "ass" come to mind.
Bump to the top with this one, I don't know how much longer I can handle using a bland, white messaging app in Myn's RLS5.
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im in for this too
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1. The widget is full screen, transparent and simple. Hancent you consistently have to click on the little picture, then menu, then "all threads"...it's annoying. Also, in most themed sense roms, the widget is themed but not the app itself. So in myn's rom, everything is dark and transparent...but when you open the app, it's boring and white. It's like you're only trying to make the home screens look better and nothing else. Also, you can't theme the widgets from chomp or handcent, so unless your theme happens to look like their widgets, it looks out of place and you're boned anyway.
2. Handcent and Chomp have ads. Ads are annoying and make the product look cheap. I even paid for chompsms ads to go away and they came back. I left a strongly worded e-mail...and review...and i tell people not to get it.
3. the stock app is faster and takes up less space than the 3rd party ones and can't be uninstalled. You HAVE to have it, so why can't someone spend some time and make an app you HAVE to have look a little better?
4. Gmail, menus, the drawer launcher, the drawer itself and various other stock programs are themed all the way through, why not the messaging app too?
I would ask for the stock sense mail app too but I don't use it enough to really care. The messaging app I use 200 times a day minimum.
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1) With LauncherPro plus you can have a messaging widget that displays messages from what ever messaging program you use. Its great, I love it!
2) I've never tried ChompSMS because I love Handcent and I've never once seen an advertisement except for an ad for one of their own services within the settings menu. Such a tiny infraction is something I cannot fault them for given how long I've been using their otherwise ad free app.
3) You're right on this one but its really not a concern. On my old MyTouch 3G, I worried about it, absolutely. However, given that Froyo offers the ability to install apps to the SDcard there is absolutely no reason to worry about space. Its just silly. Its akin to being worried about fitting a six pack of beer in a Suburban.
4) No clue, so I'm not going to address it.
I don't see too many poll threads on which sms client you use... I would love if you left a reason you chose the one you do.
I use GO SMS pro because of the simplicity of it and the way the pop up looks. I actually prefer CHOMP sms pop up UI, but it lags and just isn't close to running as smoothly as GO sms Pro.
Also, if you want to post a screen shot of the theme you're using if you're happy with your theme!
Handcent > Go sms. You can text without unlocking screen with handcent. You have to unlock the screen for go sms.
Idk how much I would use that, but I am interested in that. What theme do you use?
Handcent because of being able to reply from the lockscreen without unlocking the phone.
Wow a lot more people use handcent than I realized. What theme do you use?
Stock Sense app, on InsertCoin 2.2. Nice and simple
I use stock. Never liked other apps.
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I use Handcent, probably because it offers so many more options over the stock Sense app but probably because of habit also. I don't like pop-ups because of privacy issues and the Handcent seems to work the best for me.
I use GoSMS Pro. I tried Handcent for a while but I found Go to be smoother. They're almost identical in terms of features. However, Go lets you backup your texts for free. Helpful when flashing different ROMs.
i use iphone theme on Handcent with modifications.
I used to use Handcent until it started acting stupid. It worked fine & then all of a sudden started resending texts on every reboot, not sending texts properly(showed a spinning icon next to every message), etc. Now I use GoSms & I love it. All the features of Handcent with none of the bugs. The only thing I miss is the Handcent ringtone picker.
Im using an aosp mms app xboarder ported, working fine for me.
I'm surprised on how many people use stock. It doesn't offer enough features for me. I agree that handcent use to be better, but GO SMS pro has surpassed it in my opinion on the mere fact that it isn't buggy and looks a lot cleaner.
Also, its interesting no one uses Chomp SMS. Especailly if you ever use the iphone theme, chomp sms looks just like it. I loved BITEsms on my jailbroken iphone I used to have.
Used to use Chomp, now go.
just prefer the look of the stock sms app, especially when themed.
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I use GoSMS Pro. I tried Handcent for a while but I found Go to be smoother. They're almost identical in terms of features. However, Go lets you backup your texts for free. Helpful when flashing different ROMs.
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Yeah i love GoSMS's built in SMS and settings backup, i used to use only handcent but stopped mainly for that reason.
I hate stock messaging app i try i use it but get sick of it and switch. I hate the lack of customization.
I do wish, however, that text messages would still pop up on the lockscreen when using any other messaging apps
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Yeah i love GoSMS's built in SMS and settings backup, i used to use only handcent but stopped mainly for that reason.
I hate stock messaging app i try i use it but get sick of it and switch. I hate the lack of customization.
I do wish, however, that text messages would still pop up on the lockscreen when using any other messaging apps
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I use handcent since i got this phone but from what u note i might give gosms a whirl and see if its any better
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I tried GOSMS first, and saw no reason to leave it. Looks good, has a lot of cool features.
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I just use stock with sms pop up
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I changed my rom from the basic Desire HD sense to cyanogen mod 7 a few weeks back, and I like it for the most part. There's just a few things I miss. The biggest thing is the fact that I can't merge/link facebook, google twitter etc. contacts together. So I have 3 different contacts for the same person. Is there an app that could let me do this, without all of them needing to have the exact same name?
Also, I liked the sense keyboard alot more, is there an app for that too?
Thanks
Yes, long press on contact hit edit contact.. Then menu-join... There is one issue fixed... As for the keyboard... I recommend SwiftKey, it isn't free but in my opinion the best.. Or look around here for a swype apk... That would be free, or what ever... Just look around. And get the amazon app market, you'd be surprised what you get for free, and they do have discounts on stuff... But keyboards are more preference I guess, some people like to be able to swipe, some like bigger keys and customization like thumb keyboard, some like predictions and functionality like SwiftKey... Idk...
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You can even use HTC Sense keyboard on ANY rom for any device:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=624416
Is there a way to get the contacts back to a more "stock android" feel? The touchwiz format just seems inefficient and the call/ text buttons are just too small... the whoel thing seems like a giant waste of screen space!
I agree, the dialer/contact app is a big piece of junk on touchwiz.
I would recommend just using a different app, which you can easily install from the market. I really love exDialer - I just downloaded it a few days ago and I feel it works really well and looks much better than the regular dialer.
There are many apps for this, a popular one being Go! Contacts, but I found exDialer to be the best looking out of all of them. Start-up time is also very fast, which is important!
I felt the same way until I learned swipe contact from left to right to call and from right to left to send txt.
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Loving the slide action thing... thanks for the tip!
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I agree, the dialer/contact app is a big piece of junk on touchwiz.
I would recommend just using a different app, which you can easily install from the market. I really love exDialer - I just downloaded it a few days ago and I feel it works really well and looks much better than the regular dialer.
There are many apps for this, a popular one being Go! Contacts, but I found exDialer to be the best looking out of all of them. Start-up time is also very fast, which is important!
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Yeah I agree. exDialer is based off of MIUI's dialer and it's the best. It also uses the same framework for it's contacts app (it comes with the dialer app when you download from play store).
But does anybody actually use the contact app? I love the smart find on the dialer so I never really have to use the contact app for anything.