[Q] NTFS microsd card support? - Galaxy Tab 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

If I format my 16gb microsd card using NTFS it won't mount but FAT32. Since I would like to transfer hd movies (4GB+ MKV) without the need of convert the files, would this be a custom kernel function?
Any way to achieve this? Thanks!

It would be a custom function, but according to someone who's tried it (can't recall where I saw this, maybe here, maybe a different forum), ntfs transferred data 20 times more slowly than fat32.

Balthazar B said:
It would be a custom function, but according to someone who's tried it (can't recall where I saw this, maybe here, maybe a different forum), ntfs transferred data 20 times more slowly than fat32.
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But what does this mean? That our device wouldn't be capable of reading and displaying the movie (in this case) lag free? or the reading speed would be too slow for general usage?

You could format it as ext4 and have the same functionality and not need a custom kernel.

Hi,
Sorry not a Linux guy, how can I format in this file system and would it allow me to place any size file in the sd card?
Thanks,

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File size limitation

What are the chances someone will write a rom that has a different format for the file system on the internal storage of the Transformer? The reason I ask is because I have a lot of blue ray rips that I can not watch on my Transformer due to the file system limitations. Nothing over 2GB can be transferred to the device and I can not seem to get ah external SD card formatted to a different spec that will allow the full file sizes.
I know on my phone the dev reformatted the file system to something else for his from to allow the full file sizes. What are the chances of that happening with the Transformer? I have this big pretty screen I would love to take full advantage of. Watching my DVD rips is only so great
NTFS should be your friend, right? That's how I got my external hd to accept files larger than 4 gb. For the SD card ofc, dunno how to get the pad's file system there.
Or use the Linux ext2/3/4 systems!
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How about formatting the external SD card with the Linux ext3 file system, maybe with a Ubuntu Live CD, if someone only has a Windows PC.
That should work, shouldn't it?
Aymara said:
How about formatting the external SD card with the Linux ext3 file system, maybe with a Ubuntu Live CD, if someone only has a Windows PC.
That should work, shouldn't it?
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That will work. ext2/3/4 depending on what you want. I'd go ext2 as it lacks journalling, theoretically extending the life of your SD (correct me if I'm wrong).
The best option to do this would be to download the gparted live CD, booting into it, inserting your sd into your pc and then formatting it (it's fairly simple).
Only thing is, I don't think Honeycomb will automatically mount the ext SD card when inserted. You would have to do it via mount command in a terminal emulator on your TF. Maybe a custom ROM automatically mounts ext.
poltak11 said:
Only thing is, I don't think Honeycomb will automatically mount the ext SD card when inserted.
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Why? Doesn't Android itself use ext4?
Aymara said:
Why? Doesn't Android itself use ext4?
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Yeah pretty sure it uses some kind of ext, but by default I'm pretty sure it only automatically mounts FAT formatted microSD. I tried this myself with Prime!1.5 a few days ago, with an ext4 Class 2 microSD and it wouldn't mount automatically, although it did recognise the device. Simple mount command in terminal should do the trick.
Although now I'm not sure if OP is talking about SD (via dock) or microSD (via tablet)... as the terms are used rather ambiguously on these forums...
poltak11 said:
... it wouldn't mount automatically, ...
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Unbelievable, but true ... I found this problem confirmed in a german Android forum.
Aymara said:
Unbelievable, but true ... I found this problem confirmed in a german Android forum.
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Unbelievable indeed. It really doesn't make sense why non-FAT formatted microSDs aren't liked by Android.
i dont understand it either! Im glad i dont have that issue !

ext/ntfs support for mass storage/sd card

Hi. I Used gparted to format my sdcard to ext3. I booted from a usb stick and my 8gb sdcard was connected via a PSP with a MSDUO to Microsd adapter. When i inserted it into my Tmobile G2X the phone didnt recognize the sdcard. Does anyone have any ideas whats wrong?
You cant use your sd for mass storage with it formated in ext. The only time ext is used on your sd card is if you are using apps2sd and even then just a small portion of the card is ext and the rest is fat32.
Crap. Thank you. I looked around, but didnt find aything about THIS.Thank you.
is there anyway to add support for ntfs to the OS or kernel. As i have heard the kernel doesnt support ntfs, but Linux can read the file system. So my question is what has to be done to accomplish this.
m_malyszko said:
is there anyway to add support for ntfs to the OS or kernel. As i have heard the kernel doesnt support ntfs, but Linux can read the file system. So my question is what has to be done to accomplish this.
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I'm not saying it's impossible, but it might not be worth it. I'm sure others have thought about this before, but it still hasn't been done, so I'm guessing there's a good reason for that.
Fat32 is native to android and it's probably going to stay that way. You should be good unless you have files bigger than 4gb each that you want on your sd card
well i actually wanna be able to download huge files, 8GB, at my work place. And we can only have phones at work, and they dont even know that were using their wifi or that we have cell phones.

[Q] which file system for new micro sd card?

So my micro sd card just fried. It was a cheap $30 Wintec 16gb Class 10 that I picked up from Fry's Electronics during the summer of 2012. Over the last 6 months that I had it, I used it as ntfs file format so that I could play .mkv movies >4gb.
I plan on ordering http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Mobil...166&sr=8-4&keywords=sandisk+mobile+ultra+32gb in the 32gb version.
1) Can anyone recommend a better micro sd card?
I will be using my micro sd card to be recording a lot of 1080p sports videos, storing .mkv movies bigger than 4gb, and hold hundreds of mp3's, pictures, and movie clips. Based on my preliminary research on the forums, I would need something with higher random read/write speeds instead of sequential for the thousands of small files to load faster on my phone. Can anyone confirm this?
2) What file format should i be using? Is there a way to combine fat32 and ntfs?
With my old micro sd card, I was using ntfs file format to store my .mkv movies to watch at work, but the card would become corrupt at least once a month, so I would have to plug the card into my desktop and run a chkdsk /f /r command. I assume that over time this killed my micro sd card... the drawback to this was that I had to create my nandroid backups to the internal memory.... I would much rather have it on the external sd card
I would love to format the card in fat32 so that I could put the nandroid backup on the external sd card, but then i would not be able to put movies >4gb on the card.
Someone in another forum suggested that I partition my sd card, one partition in fat32 for nandroid backups, and one in exfat or ntfs for my movies... My question is,
3) how does clockworkmod know which partition to select? Will it be automatic or will I need to point it there?
That's all I have for now. I hope I gave enough details for good answer.
You need to format exFat. That format supports >4gb files and is natively supported on this device.
Some custom roms however do not support exFat, if you install a Rom that doesn't it will just tell you that your storage is removed in the drop down when you boot.
Some recoveries don't support exFat but it's not a huge deal because you can use your internal storage to flash roms and mods
If you want your recovery to use your external as exFat just search these forums for the proper one. I believe the newer twrp recoveries support it
Via my Google Galaxy S3 running magic beans
Slightly off topic.... But it would be great if android media players could play 4Gb+ movies stored in multi-part RAR archives. I do that on Windows all the time using VLC and it's very convenient.
neh4pres said:
You need to format exFat. That format supports >4gb files and is natively supported on this device.
Some custom roms however do not support exFat, if you install a Rom that doesn't it will just tell you that your storage is removed in the drop down when you boot.
Some recoveries don't support exFat but it's not a huge deal because you can use your internal storage to flash roms and mods
If you want your recovery to use your external as exFat just search these forums for the proper one. I believe the newer twrp recoveries support it
Via my Google Galaxy S3 running magic beans
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So I ended up buying the 64gb Sandisk Ultra Micro SDXC Class 10 UHS-I card, but the ROM and CWM Recovery I am using does not recognize exFat. I put the sd card in my friends stock s3 and her phone recognized the exFat format.
Does anyone know which touchwiz roms will support exFat? I need to have a touchwiz ROM because I convinced all my friends and co workers to get the s3 together and we use S-Beam to bump pictures daily.
I will try to flash TWRP and see how that goes.
Current Rom that does not support exFAT: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...3b0BEdAvvRN9lxKYjeAM7nw&bvm=bv.41524429,d.cGE
I think you are going to be out of luck trying to find a custom rom that supports it and very doubtful that it ever will.
It is not ROM it is ur kernel find one that supports ur filesystem and install it!
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Probably you can try paragon's hfs ntfs and exfat system drivers app...
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.paragon.mounter
But they mentioned it is not compatible with 4.2
I would use Hyperdrive. It's a the best TW Custom ROM and is 4.1.2. So it would work with the driver posted above. Also update your TWRP (GooManager is perfect for this) and you will be all set!
Edit just realized how old this thread is. Why did you guys bump this thread????
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[Q] Can't Android 4.0 manage two partitions on SD card?

Hi, I am moving from WinMo to Android and would like to have an offline Wikipedia, that weights 10GB. This could be handled by EXT2.
The SD card is FAT32 formatted and I would like to continue being able to access it via USB as well. So I have reduced the FAT32 partition and added a 11GB EXT2 partition. Since this change Android does not recognize anything on my SD card.
Can't Android 4.0 manage two partitions on a SD card?
rin67630 said:
Hi, I am moving from WinMo to Android and would like to have an offline Wikipedia, that weights 10GB. This could be handled by EXT2.
The SD card is FAT32 formatted and I would like to continue being able to access it via USB as well. So I have reduced the FAT32 partition and added a 11GB EXT2 partition. Since this change Android does not recognize anything on my SD card.
Can't Android 4.0 manage two partitions on a SD card?
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Hi,
I am fairly sure that you do not need an EXT2 partition on Android.
Why not just format the whole sd card to a single FAT 32 partition.
I am sure it will work.
I gave the explanation: Try to store a 10GB file on Fat32 !
rin67630 said:
I gave the explanation: Try to store a 10GB file on Fat32 !
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Hi,
Sorry,my bad.
I was just thinking of 10GB OF information,not a 10GB file.
The only thing I can think of,is exfat.
But I do not know if that works on Sensation ,yet.
malybru said:
Hi,
Sorry,my bad.
I was just thinking of 10GB OF information,not a 10GB file.
The only thing I can think of,is exfat.
But I do not know if that works on Sensation ,yet.
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I tried exFAT as well: is not recognized on a Sensation.
I have just looked on anothe Android: It really looks like Andoird can't cope with partitioned SD cards. With partitioned cards it just don't recognize anything, not even the first one.
rin67630 said:
I tried exFAT as well: is not recognized on a Sensation.
I have just looked on anothe Android: It really looks like Andoird can't cope with partitioned SD cards. With partitioned cards it just don't recognize anything, not even the first one.
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Hi,
It seems that it is not Android that cannot cope with exfat.
Rather, it is the version.
4.2.2 is able to read it on my S4.
It may be worth your while asking devs of the 4.2.2 ROMS on the Sensation when their ROMS will be able to read exfat cards.
malybru said:
Hi,
It seems that it is not Android that cannot cope with exfat.
Rather, it is the version.
4.2.2 is able to read it on my S4.
It may be worth your while asking devs of the 4.2.2 ROMS on the Sensation when their ROMS will be able to read exfat cards.
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I have read that it depends on the device vendor, since fees need to be paid to M$.
Currently i am still with a stock ROM, maybe a cooked on could do?
rin67630 said:
I have read that it depends on the device vendor, since fees need to be paid to M$.
Currently i am still with a stock ROM, maybe a cooked on could do?
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Hi,
That is what I was suggesting.
There are quite a few ROMS for 4.2.2 on the Sensation.
Read through the first posts to see if it mentioned or not.
And maybe even post in the thread to see if it is available,or if it is being planned.
Correct me if I am wrong,but is this not implemented on the kernel level?
Maybe talking to some kernel devs as well.

Marshmallow SD Card Issues

Hey guys,
I was hoping someone with some experience with Android M could help. After installing the OTA update and upgrading to Marshmallow, it seems that the OS makes you format microSD cards as either portable or internal storage. The issue that I'm running into is that after formatting the memory card as portable storage, the system formats it as Fat32 so I can no longer transfer large MKV files to play in Kodi. Prior to installing the 6.0 OTA, I had no issues transferring the files to my microSD card.
As a workaround, I tried using my USB OTG drive to play the videos but I can't get Kodi to recognize the drive as a source for my video files. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to get around these new memory card complications that Android 6.0 has introduced?
I would greatly appreciate some help on this as this was one of the main reasons I purchased this tablet so that I could use it as a temporary HTPC when I'm traveling. Thanks in advance!
Have you tried removing the SD CARD and formatting on a PC?
Seems that Marshmallow's not all it's cracked up to be.
Don't have marshmallow, but have you tried reformatting the SD card on your PC using exFat or NTFS instead?
I don't know if marshmallow will prompt you to reformat again when you put the card back in the Shield though...
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You didn't mention what size of card, but if it is larger than 32gigs you will need to put the sd card in a computer and format as NTFS. Android doesn't support exfat, only fat32 and NTFS. Try that and let us know what happens!
hbar98 said:
You didn't mention what size of card, but if it is larger than 32gigs you will need to put the sd card in a computer and format as NTFS. Android doesn't support exfat, only fat32 and NTFS. Try that and let us know what happens!
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Funny...running a 64GB SDCard formatted exFat right now on my original ST8 (Lollipop)...and also a 16GB SDCard formatted exFat on my old Samsung S4 (also Lollipop).
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Try to restart tablet? The best is using es Explorer to transfer files. Fat32 do not accepted file over 4gb. Try format back exfat
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An Droid said:
Funny...running a 64GB SDCard formatted exFat right now on my original ST8 (Lollipop)...and also a 16GB SDCard formatted exFat on my old Samsung S4 (also Lollipop).
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Oh, wow! Your personal experience with two different phones made by two different manufacturers running an old system that was never designed for what Marshmallow does obviously contradicts and demolishes what I said.
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ExFat support can be added to android kernels, if the manufacturer decides to do so. Samsung, a maker of sd cards ranging from 4gigs to 200+gigs, has an interest in making sure that their devices work with their cards that also work in a variety of consumer computers. ExFat support can also be added in customer kernels, should the maintainer decided to do so (in fact, many kernels that I see for modern devices that also support an external sd cards proudly show that they support ExFat).
Android AOSP, without any mods or other built in support, does not support ExFat well, if at all. It may or may not work. The fact that nVidia has written that any cards over 32gig must be formatted to NTFS tells me that they have not chosen to build in ExFat support into their devices. Should someone desire to flash a different rom or custom kernel that support ExFat, that is their business. But since the OP didn't list what size of card they used, or if they were using any mods or a different kernel, I had to go with the most basic support.
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Oh, wow! Your personal experience with two different phones made by two different manufacturers running an old system that was never designed for what Marshmallow does obviously contradicts and demolishes what I said.
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Android AOSP, without any mods or other built in support, does not support ExFat well, if at all. It may or may not work. The fact that nVidia has written that any cards over 32gig must be formatted to NTFS tells me that they have not chosen to build in ExFat support into their devices. Should someone desire to flash a different rom or custom kernel that support ExFat, that is their business. But since the OP didn't list what size of card they used, or if they were using any mods or a different kernel, I had to go with the most basic support.
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ST8 = Shield Tablet 8" (original vs. K1 model).
Point is, this goes against your open ended and incorrect "Android doesn't support exfat, only fat32 and NTFS" statement.
Supporting exFAT in Android makes sense as it's the recommended file system by the SDCard association for SDCards larger than 32GB.
NTFS is in the same boat - it's also not officially supported by all Android implementations.
Marshmallow formats SDCards to Ext4 (and encrypts) when configured as internal storage. When configured as portable both exFAT and NTFS (and Fat16/32) may all be an option - OP can try both if using the portable option.
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Similar problem with lg g2 on marshmallow
Hi,
Having a related problem with kodi on my phone.
On lollipop, kodi found my 16gb Fat32 otg USB drive as a source, but won't show up now I'm on marshmallow. I can still play video through mx player, fx explorer media viewer, and os video player. I searched around storage and mount folders, but can find no access to the external drive browsing the file system unless I'm using the native file browser.
Marshmallow detects partition very different with Lollipop. on Marshmallow your device can use sdcard with 128 GB like internal
its mean sdcard needed change partition format to another type (not FAT, NTFS or exFAT) the matter here then you plug that sdcard to windows, windows wont detect your sdcard but you can see it through another program like MiniTool Partition Wizard.
The problem with marshmallow and this partition used to drop out connect with your sdcard. only one way to fix it reboot your device. also, sometime they cant turn wifi on then you just needed to reboot again to let your device working normally.
We needed to wait for a new patch.

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