ext/ntfs support for mass storage/sd card - T-Mobile LG G2x

Hi. I Used gparted to format my sdcard to ext3. I booted from a usb stick and my 8gb sdcard was connected via a PSP with a MSDUO to Microsd adapter. When i inserted it into my Tmobile G2X the phone didnt recognize the sdcard. Does anyone have any ideas whats wrong?

You cant use your sd for mass storage with it formated in ext. The only time ext is used on your sd card is if you are using apps2sd and even then just a small portion of the card is ext and the rest is fat32.

Crap. Thank you. I looked around, but didnt find aything about THIS.Thank you.

is there anyway to add support for ntfs to the OS or kernel. As i have heard the kernel doesnt support ntfs, but Linux can read the file system. So my question is what has to be done to accomplish this.

m_malyszko said:
is there anyway to add support for ntfs to the OS or kernel. As i have heard the kernel doesnt support ntfs, but Linux can read the file system. So my question is what has to be done to accomplish this.
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I'm not saying it's impossible, but it might not be worth it. I'm sure others have thought about this before, but it still hasn't been done, so I'm guessing there's a good reason for that.
Fat32 is native to android and it's probably going to stay that way. You should be good unless you have files bigger than 4gb each that you want on your sd card

well i actually wanna be able to download huge files, 8GB, at my work place. And we can only have phones at work, and they dont even know that were using their wifi or that we have cell phones.

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Broken SD Card?

For the last 5 hours I have had hell with my sd card I redid my phone with JF new build and wiped out my 8gb class 6 a-data sd card but all of a sudeen it been acting weird
one thing is in paragon it shows the partitions still there (ext2) which takes up the whole card and should not, while windows shows its fat32, and i can access it in windows but it wont show up in in partition program nor delete
while when i mount it into the g1 (where it ask to mount or dont mount when plug it into pc) it instantly unmounts and i click mount again but just makes a noise and unmounts also saying its blank
now my 2gb chip seems to work fine (sometimes well if i unstall the drivers and let them re install then it works for a great amount of time), but this 8 gb,...well
what do you guys think? is it fixable? I can record video of it all (errors and stuff included) if u want
idk if its my chip, my phone or my pc can anyone help?
i think this has something to do with the way windows handles sd cards with no partition table. i assume you formatted the whole card to fat32 using a third party utility? that will totally confuse the system, because it cached a version of the partition table and now there's nowhere to find the new one. a quick solution is to use the build-in format tool to format your sdcard (right click on sdcard's icon and select format...). this should force the system to recalculate the size of the partition. then you have to unplug the card reader and plug it back in. now paragon should work.
billc.cn said:
i think this has something to do with the way windows handles sd cards with no partition table. i assume you formatted the whole card to fat32 using a third party utility? that will totally confuse the system, because it cached a version of the partition table and now there's nowhere to find the new one. a quick solution is to use the build-in format tool to format your sdcard (right click on sdcard's icon and select format...). this should force the system to recalculate the size of the partition. then you have to unplug the card reader and plug it back in. now paragon should work.
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after a long while, finally got windows to format the whole thing to fat32, but yet still acting weird
what kind of card reader are you using? certain card readers has their own controller and do not allow you to partition properly.
but i am sure mountd in android will allow you full access to the sdcard when it's mounted.
also how much total space do you have in that fat partition after format? a full 8gb sd should have approx. 7.45GB actually space. if your partition table is correct, windows should only format the fat partition and give you a size smaller than 7.45G.
I strongly suggest you try again under Linux using the phone as reader. any livecd with a partition manager will perform much better than windows.
Well i try it both on my phone and a mem card reader, but once I put it on my phone it does not detect a sd card (my 8gb im trying to fix) while detects my fat32 2 gb chip
on my laptop and pc cant format nor delete that ext2 8gb sd card
BUT that 8gb ext2 card im trying to fix loads perfeclty and can access it on ubuntu so im guessing its not physically broken
tanner2007 said:
but once I put it on my phone it does not detect a sd card
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What do you mean by "it", the GUI. How about doing an ls on /dev/block from the terminal on the phone to see what linux sees?
tanner2007 said:
on my laptop and pc cant format nor delete that ext2 8gb sd card
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Hmm, what do you mean by delete the card? You can delete a partition, but not a card: I'm not sure makes sense.
tanner2007 said:
BUT that 8gb ext2 card im trying to fix loads perfeclty and can access it on ubuntu so im guessing its not physically broken
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You say ext2, but yet above you claim to have reformatted as FAT. What does your ubuntu machine think it is? One way to tell is to mount it and try to set permissions on a file, if you can, it is not FAT.
What is your objective, do you want a FAT partition, an EXT2 partition, both?
Well I got it working guys, I dont know what was happening as I said before different programs where detecting different file systems, but soon as I found out how to do it ubuntu I saw it was working and erased the whole card (all partitions and everything)
and now it works again thanks guys ur tips helped

File size limitation

What are the chances someone will write a rom that has a different format for the file system on the internal storage of the Transformer? The reason I ask is because I have a lot of blue ray rips that I can not watch on my Transformer due to the file system limitations. Nothing over 2GB can be transferred to the device and I can not seem to get ah external SD card formatted to a different spec that will allow the full file sizes.
I know on my phone the dev reformatted the file system to something else for his from to allow the full file sizes. What are the chances of that happening with the Transformer? I have this big pretty screen I would love to take full advantage of. Watching my DVD rips is only so great
NTFS should be your friend, right? That's how I got my external hd to accept files larger than 4 gb. For the SD card ofc, dunno how to get the pad's file system there.
Or use the Linux ext2/3/4 systems!
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How about formatting the external SD card with the Linux ext3 file system, maybe with a Ubuntu Live CD, if someone only has a Windows PC.
That should work, shouldn't it?
Aymara said:
How about formatting the external SD card with the Linux ext3 file system, maybe with a Ubuntu Live CD, if someone only has a Windows PC.
That should work, shouldn't it?
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That will work. ext2/3/4 depending on what you want. I'd go ext2 as it lacks journalling, theoretically extending the life of your SD (correct me if I'm wrong).
The best option to do this would be to download the gparted live CD, booting into it, inserting your sd into your pc and then formatting it (it's fairly simple).
Only thing is, I don't think Honeycomb will automatically mount the ext SD card when inserted. You would have to do it via mount command in a terminal emulator on your TF. Maybe a custom ROM automatically mounts ext.
poltak11 said:
Only thing is, I don't think Honeycomb will automatically mount the ext SD card when inserted.
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Why? Doesn't Android itself use ext4?
Aymara said:
Why? Doesn't Android itself use ext4?
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Yeah pretty sure it uses some kind of ext, but by default I'm pretty sure it only automatically mounts FAT formatted microSD. I tried this myself with Prime!1.5 a few days ago, with an ext4 Class 2 microSD and it wouldn't mount automatically, although it did recognise the device. Simple mount command in terminal should do the trick.
Although now I'm not sure if OP is talking about SD (via dock) or microSD (via tablet)... as the terms are used rather ambiguously on these forums...
poltak11 said:
... it wouldn't mount automatically, ...
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Unbelievable, but true ... I found this problem confirmed in a german Android forum.
Aymara said:
Unbelievable, but true ... I found this problem confirmed in a german Android forum.
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Unbelievable indeed. It really doesn't make sense why non-FAT formatted microSDs aren't liked by Android.
i dont understand it either! Im glad i dont have that issue !

[Q] Transfer Large File

Im trying to transfer a blue ray to my sd card but the file system is FAT32 not NTFS. FAT32 wont let you transfer such a big file like NTFS will. Anyone know how I can get that file on my SD so I can stream the blue ray to my tv via HDMI???
No way to fix it without formatting the SD card, and since you seem to be on Windows, odds are that you're going to loose the read/write access one way or another as the kernel doesn't support NTFS, and Windows doesn't support ext2/3/4
imnuts said:
No way to fix it without formatting the SD card, and since you seem to be on Windows, odds are that you're going to loose the read/write access one way or another as the kernel doesn't support NTFS, and Windows doesn't support ext2/3/4
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Yeah I have tried formatting the sd card and and changing to NTFS but it always went back to FAT32. I tried using WiFi file Exploer to let me upload that way but even that wouldnt let me upload..sucks too cause I know someone that just got a 6o inch samsung LED tv...the tv lets u plug in a usb so ill have to invest in one of those..thanks for your help tho

[Q] Problem with external SD Card permissions

Hi everyone.
I've got a problem with the permissions of my brand new Micro SD Card. When I plug it in my desktop computer, I can obviously write on it, but as soon as I put it in my tablet, I can only read the files I put on it, not modify/delete them or write new ones. I tried to change the permissions with Root Explorer, but I fails.
My tablet is rooted and I flashed the official CM10. As I read that exFAT is not supported by CM10 on this tablet I formated the SD card in NTFS.
So, can someone help me with this ?
The vanilla Linux kernel can only read NTFS, but not write to it. For write support you need either a proprietary kernel module (which the stock ROM includes, along with one for exFAT), or FUSE with ntfs-3g (which might not yet be included in CM).
Workaround: format with FAT32.
Thanks for your answer. I could reformat my card in FAT32, but then I wouldn't be able to put files larger than 4 GB on my card.
I guess I'll stay in NTFS for now, and hope that exFAT will be supported by CM10 someday.

[Q] SD Card Not Writeable?

It seems that my SD card is not writable when inserted. Is this true? I tried to create a new folder on it with root explorer (I am not rooted though) and it said that my device needs to be rooted in order to accomplish that task.
Any ideas?
Jonn
Did you try something like es file explorer? I would try that.
That didn't work either. It says "operation failed".
I actually noticed that it wasn't working playing act raiser and it wasn't saving my position. Moving the ROM to internal storage worked. I then tried to create a folder.
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Huh. Just tried a different SD card and that one worked. Weird.
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I spoke too soon. After removing the sdcard that worked and putting it back in, it no longer is writeable.
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It works again if I pull the card out, restart the shield and put the card back in. Perhaps something up with the mounting process?
It appears that once a card is mounted, if it is removed and re-inserted, it remounts as read only.
Jonn
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It looks like sdcard mounting is messed up. I can't get any of the sdcards i have tried to mount.
Did you go into settings and actually click unmount before removing the SD Card? Many linux systems (android is linux) will mount devices which werent safely removed in read only mode for some bizarre reason.
I tried that as well. It still doesn't work.
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jonnberg said:
It seems that my SD card is not writable when inserted. Is this true? I tried to create a new folder on it with root explorer (I am not rooted though) and it said that my device needs to be rooted in order to accomplish that task.
Any ideas?
Jonn
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when you go to storage under settings, under sd card does it show total space for card. if not maybe you have to format it to NTFS first. thats what I had to do with my new card. also said to do so on shield guide
evobunny said:
when you go to storage under settings, under sd card does it show total space for card. if not maybe you have to format it to NTFS first. thats what I had to do with my new card. also said to do so on shield guide
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I did not read the destructions. The destructions have useful information? Where may i find these destructions? I assumed fat32 so that is what my sd is formatted to.
chevyowner said:
I did not read the destructions. The destructions have useful information? Where may i find these destructions? I assumed fat32 so that is what my sd is formatted to.
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sorry i cant post link yet cause im new to forum. but go there, (shield.nvidia.com/user-guide/sd-card) user guide said to format it to NTFS
Would has added this sooner, but I lost my sdcard reader.
Formatting it NTFS worked.
Still wont mount, but now i at least get the option to mount.
evobunny said:
when you go to storage under settings, under sd card does it show total space for card. if not maybe you have to format it to NTFS first. thats what I had to do with my new card. also said to do so on shield guide
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Yes, I formatted it to NTFS before I inserted it. It shows the total space and space available, it just doesn't allow anything to be written to it. I can take it out and put it in a PC and it works correctly. I also have another SD card that I tried and it worked for a few minutes, but I haven't been able to get it to keep working.
Jonn
jonnberg said:
Yes, I formatted it to NTFS before I inserted it. It shows the total space and space available, it just doesn't allow anything to be written to it. I can take it out and put it in a PC and it works correctly. I also have another SD card that I tried and it worked for a few minutes, but I haven't been able to get it to keep working.
Jonn
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sorry I dont know what else to tell you, i first had the same problem like yall when I stuck in a brand new card. nothing I downloaded would go on to card. and it didnt show the amount of space left under the storage menu. Then i found out it need to be formated to NTFS. Once i did that everything started downloaded and showing up on card.
jonnberg said:
Yes, I formatted it to NTFS before I inserted it. It shows the total space and space available, it just doesn't allow anything to be written to it. I can take it out and put it in a PC and it works correctly. I also have another SD card that I tried and it worked for a few minutes, but I haven't been able to get it to keep working.
Jonn
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The only memory card I have gotten working (about 1 minute ago) is 512MB and formatted fat32
The card i want to us is a 16gb microsdhc formatted fat32 when this memory card is in my shield it knows it has a memory card but says it has no partitions on it.
I am running testdisk on the sd card and it found 9 partitoins. I will try and clean that up.
To be honest, I've never tried SD card support on the device. So I can't say one way or another. But I'll be looking at it soon enough since I got my first build of CWM for SHIELD waiting for me to debug in the other room once the kids go to bed.
I just tried two different 8GB class 10 transcend cards, an 8GB class 2 generic card and a 256mb sandisk card. I put each card in and copied a file from internal storage to it. Then I removed each of the cards without unmounting and put them back in and proceeded to copy a file to the card again. Every time it worked successfully. I do not even know what format they are in and didn't format them before testing. And, maybe the issue didn't show up because I didn't give it enough time. I am not sure.
Also, I know this is probably a really dumb question but the micro sd slot is spring loaded. You are pushing it in until you hear a good solid click right?
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Having issues of my own.
Bought a 64gb sandisk SDXC card for shield. It worked 100% fine in my SGS3 formated for exFat. But not in the shield...
It seems to work somewhat when formated for NTFS. But the file path is really messed up and 1/2 my apps cant see the SD card because of this. It something like (root/storage/sdcard1/....)
2 apps that are basically usless right now due to this are Power amp & FPse.
Android doesn't normally support either exFat or NTFS. The shield may include support for them but if I had a shield I would steer clear anyway and go with what android definitely trusts in FAT32.
Hopefully NVidia will do a firmware update to sort these problems though

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