A petition for stock ICS Launcher - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727

Do you think there is enough interest for people to sign a petition for Samsung to make the stock ICS launcher an option?
I didn't mind TouchWiz on Gingerbread, but I find TouchWiz to be a serious downgrade from the stock ICS launcher. If we got a few thousand people to say, "I'm sure you meant well, but your UI is feels underdeveloped looks amateurish on your amazing piece of hardware, please let us use the stock ICS launcher". I think it is something they need to hear for the benefit of all the users and Samsung.
I can see what Samsung wants to do. They want to incorporate the latest web design styles: flat pastel colors on a level surface, no bevel, faint 180 degree drop shadow. They had the right idea. If done right, the web 3.0-like style looks clean, simple, and elegant, but the final product just misses the mark. It comes off as uninspired, unsophisticated, amateurish, and underdeveloped. I feel that the whole TouchWiz needs to be scrapped and they should start all over again. But why do that when they can just offer us the stock ICS launcher?
Is it just me that feels this way? Would there be legal reasons why Samsung cannot offer this?

Make the petition and I will sign it. I doubt it will do anything though because the default argument will be that you can just download additional launchers.
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I'll sign it. But it probably won't happen. You can go to change.org if you want to start it.
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Why not download apex or nova launcher? Thats ICS and you cam have it now vs. waiting for Samsung who wont do it anyway. Same as HTC or Motorola. They have their own skins.
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Samsung wants to sell you a Samsung phone, not an "Android" phone, and definitley not a Nexus-esque AOSP phone. It's in their business interest to condition everyone into Touchwiz no matter how deviated it is from AOSP.
Samsung is very good about releasing the source -- once it becomes official -- and then we can have all the AOSP love we want from our friends at CM and AOKP.

promiseofcake said:
Samsung wants to sell you a Samsung phone, not an "Android" phone, and definitley not a Nexus-esque AOSP phone. It's in their business interest to condition everyone into Touchwiz no matter how deviated it is from AOSP.
Samsung is very good about releasing the source -- once it becomes official -- and then we can have all the AOSP love we want from our friends at CM and AOKP.
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And that's the beauty of having this great forum with great devs.
Signing a petition is like making a Facebook page for the dislike button. Look where it has gotten them so far.
Now you convince everybody to stop buying the Samsung mobile line, that says more than a few names ever will.
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Hmm...I would prefer a petition telling them to give us the GS3 touchwiz...now that's something I'll sign...I got apex for stock ics
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ROM: CM9

I thought, I read somewhere that Google was going to force the manufacturers to include the AOSP ICS Launcher in with there builds, on top of the manufacturers launchers giving customers the option !!
I have to find this acticle about it.
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It was the theme and menus like how Google Play has the options button on the top right for tablets called the "Holo" UI.
http://www.slashgear.com/android-uniformity-a-bit-more-clarity-on-new-google-rules-for-ics-06206868/
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Lol ...manufacturers or carriers will never allowed this.... ? Or will they
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I'd rather let the Devs continue their work. They can be far more creative, because they don't have to work within the constraints of the Corporate world
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MIUI?

I'm no dev but how possible is a port for the S?
Youd probably have to ask the porters of the english version if they have this phone and plan on pushing it to it.
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Does anyone have MIUI experience? Do we know if a MIUI port is in the works? Like MANY more, I am willing to donate for this MASTERPIECE
I am so jealous of my Wife's MyTouch 4G right now! The MIUI Rom just straight poops all over the Nexus S right about now. :-(
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Anyone Have any Idea...? Suggestions?
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I have no idea. I'm not really a fan of Iphone, I mean MIUI
not trying to hate on MIUI but why buy a nice phone with stock gingerbread if you are going to completely destroy the major reason anyone would get the phone.?
There is a difference between flashing CM7 and MIUI iono just doesnt make sense to me
haha^ your completely right bro
I wasn't going to say anything, but please explain how the MIUI rom "poops" all over the Nexus S? Why do you have a Nexus S?
As an ex MIUI user on the N1 (Launcher pro though - ewwww iPhone UI ) - I'd love to see it on the NS. I'd still buy another NS without a second thought though - amazing phone.
Sorry... I guess I dint word it right. I meant it is amazing as far as the customizations go A lot of cool features on it I would like to see my NS!
As Far as "pooping" all over the Nexus I am only stating this as her Snapdragon is clocked @ 1.8!
Which we will see soon!
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The MIUI 12.24 is on my NS now.
Been using MIUI (on my N1 for 2 months).
Have you tried junkdrugglers MIUI theme for ADW launcher on the market? It seems to do decent justice.
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The MIUI 12.24 is on my NS now.
Been using MIUI (on my N1 for 2 months).
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12.24 MIUI on NS? Care To Share?
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I would like to play with MIUI also
use chrome to translate http://www.miui.com/thread-18522-1-1.html?extra=page=1
in the i9000 it said miui will support both nexus
Yes MIUI is definitely going to support NS as it is the official Google phone like N1. It's just a matter of time.
Was there REALLY a need or use for this thread? I mean, seriously!? It doesn't contribute anything...at all. I hate to be a **** but it surely twists my balls when I see a thread like this. Just wait and see, I'm sure an MIUI ROM will come sooner or later. It's just a matter of time. Have a nice evening .
This Is just a wish... A desire..
Threads like this lead to show the interest of a particular ROM or Theme. Without voicing your opinion how can you be heard? That's what makes a community, the openness to share and congregate.
Android: Open Source = Open Discussions
On The Moon... Sent From a Nexus S
PlankLongBeard said:
This Is just a wish... A desire..
Threads like this lead to show the interest of a particular ROM or Theme. Without voicing your opinion how can you be heard? That's what makes a community, the openness to share and congregate.
Android: Open Source = Open Discussions
On The Moon... Sent From a Nexus S
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I'm all for people voicing their opinions. However, this thread does not involve voicing any opinion. It is, more or less, an attempt to get someone to port MIUI to the Nexus S. I don't think it, in any way, involves "Themes" or "Apps." Just sayin'! I hope someone does port it just so threads like this cease to exist . That's all from me.
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I'm all for people voicing their opinions. However, this thread does not involve voicing any opinion. It is, more or less, an attempt to get someone to port MIUI to the Nexus S. I don't think it, in any way, involves "Themes" or "Apps." Just sayin'! I hope someone does port it just so threads like this cease to exist . That's all from me.
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Of Course... My Mistake..! I did open the thread in Themes and Apps. Apologies - Mod has moved it!
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[REQ] TouchWiz Rom Port

i have been trying to port the SG2 Dump (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1048960) to no avail. I have about giiven up as i am a amateur developer. if any experienced devs can try that would be awesome.
Motorola Droid 3 port would be also awesome, but I am also amateur..
Drivers are the most important.
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I would be interested in a Touchwiz port as well. Mostly just for the puzzle lock and the messaging app.
If you are interested in TouchWiz,why don't you buy a galaxy s2?
You actually WANT Touchwiz? *mind explodes*
Fun fact: not everyone dislikes TW or likes Sense.
now let me get this straight !
you want 2 replace sense with touchwiz ??? ! ?
please tell me that I got this wrong pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez
I like Touch Wiz better than Sense as well. It looks more like vanilla Android minus the horizontal app drawer. I can't stand the new version of Sense. Its not optimized and it has too much eye candy to apease the mainstream user. In my opinion, Touch Wiz is the more polished UI. We all know its more optimized.
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i would love to see this happen too, tw is really clean and seems like it would run smooth on the sensation. i love sense but its just eye candy and slows down performance
I don't want to replace it. I just want to see how it looks . a problem is it would be the sense 3 port all over again only in reverse. Sgs2 has a 800x400 display unlike the sensation's 960x540 display
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Wanna try it? http://mobileplanet-waryam.blogspot.com/2011/06/tw-launcher-45-v143-hacked-touchwiz-4.html
This thread is funny. Not only does someone actually want TouchWiz, but someone else said they want MotoBlur. While we're at it maybe someone can also get a working BB os7 os port working on our phone.
Paging Dr B said:
This thread is funny. Not only does someone actually want TouchWiz, but someone else said they want MotoBlur. While we're at it maybe someone can also get a working BB os7 os port working on our phone.
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Besides the horizontal app drawer. What is wrong with Touch Wiz? It comes with a better email and text client. Its contacts client is miles better and the swiping on contacts to call and text is one of the best features I've ever seen. Its twitter and Facebook integration is also better and its dock icons are interchangeable unlock the dock on Sense.
It doesn't have all that useless eye candy like Sense does. Who the hell needs the home screen to zoom in when unlocking their device. That's just stupid. Don't even get me started on the useless carousel feature. That right there is as worthless as a female in the fire department.
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jrwingate6 said:
Besides the horizontal app drawer. What is wrong with Touch Wiz? It comes with a better email and text client. Its contacts client is miles better and the swiping on contacts to call and text is one of the best features I've ever seen. Its twitter and Facebook integration is also better and its dock icons are interchangeable unlock the dock on Sense.
It doesn't have all that useless eye candy like Sense does. Who the hell needs the home screen to zoom in when unlocking their device. That's just stupid. Don't even get me started on the useless carousel feature. That right there is as worthless as a female in the fire department.
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TW contacts is nice I'll give you that. Swiping to the left or right is a great feature. When my Vibrant was my daily driver, all everyone could talk about was getting rid of TW. The launcher sucks, the icons/theme is gross, and samsung widgets aren't better than sense widgets. In my opinion of course. Lol, in fact if you go over to Galaxy S forums they ask about porting Sense to TW devices. The grass is always greener on the other side I suppose.
The sexism in your post wasn't needed though. You don't need a (man part) to be an EMT, or climb a ladder.
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TW contacts is nice I'll give you that. Swiping to the left or right is a great feature. When my Vibrant was my daily driver, all everyone could talk about was getting rid of TW. The launcher sucks, the icons/theme is gross, and samsung widgets aren't better than sense widgets. In my opinion of course. Lol, in fact if you go over to Galaxy S forums they ask about porting Sense to TW devices. The grass is always greener on the other side I suppose.
The sexism in your post wasn't needed though. You don't need a (man part) to be an EMT, or climb a ladder.
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Nope, your right. Women make great EMT's and they can climb a ladder. Its the throwing of a ladder they cant seem to accomplish. They also have trouble dragging a fully charged 2 inch hose up a flight of steps. It just aint happening my friend. I work in one of the busiest city's for fires. Not some jolly volly company out in the boondocks who only see fire twice a year. I see this **** first hand and I'm telling you. Women do not have the upper body strength to perform the duty s of this job. Hell, there's some men who don't belong doing this job.
It's not sexism if it's the truth. I'm not PC and that's whats wrong with today's society. We don't have standards and we try to meet quotas to appease the minority's. Whatever happened to BEST MAN FOR THE JOB!
When it comes to Sense widgets being better than TW widgets, your right. However, I don't use any of the widgets. When it comes to the icons on TW looking bad. I don't understand how they do. They look the same to me.
How many of you have even seen or used TW4? Not many unless you have friends with an imported SGS2. I came from ADW and find TW totally inoffensive. Like JR said, it's light, fast, and doesn't screw with the native Android feel of the phone. I totally get why people would like the all-in integrated experience of Sense but TW is a totally different approach. Other than less UI customization options it's no different than any other launcher out there. And some of the Samsung widgets which are exclusive to TW are pretty cool. Starting at the bottom of the thread below I posted pics of TW4 configured on my phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1172992&page=25
BarryH_GEG said:
How many of you have even seen or used TW4? Not many unless you have friends with an imported SGS2. I came from ADW and find TW totally inoffensive. Like JR said, it's light, fast, and doesn't screw with the native Android feel of the phone. I totally get why people would like the all-in integrated experience of Sense but TW is a totally different approach. Other than less UI customization options it's no different than any other launcher out there. And some of the Samsung widgets which are exclusive to TW are pretty cool. Starting at the bottom of the thread below I posted pics of TW4 configured on my phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1172992&page=25
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Your right. Most of these people haven't even used the new version of TW. Like the one guy who said the Icons were ugly. I can see how one would think that with TW 3.0 when it had the colored boxes surrounding them but now that they were removed, there is no difference in the looks of the icons. Like you said. TW 4 is the least intrusive UI and is also the most polished/optimized UI. There is absolutely no reason to hate it unless you dislike vanilla Android.
And to prove the grass is always greener somewhere else, here's a thread in the SGS2 forum where people are looking for a Sense 3.0 port.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1156233
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And to prove the grass is always greener somewhere else, here's a thread in the SGS2 forum where people are looking for a Sense 3.0 port.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1156233
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Every forum you read, people are always looking for UI ports. It the norm these days. People want options and everyone has a different preference.
Touchwiz 3 is horrible, touchwiz 4 is nice.
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HTC comments on Jelly Bean for the One Series

http://ausdroid.net/2012/06/29/htc-comments-on-jelly-bean-for-the-one-series/
"We are excited about Android Jelly Bean and are planning to support it across a variety of our devices. We are reviewing the software to determine our upgrade plans and schedule, so please stay tuned for more updates on specific device upgrade plans.”
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They say basically nothing.
We'll obviously get jelly bean.. In fall..
karan1203 said:
We'll obviously get jelly bean.. In fall..
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2014
Who cares when we get "official" JB? We'll get it long before HTC gives it to us. And honestly I could care less if we ever get it at all. My phone is quite literally perfect the way it is and will do just fine for me until HTC's quad core S4 phone comes out.
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I love how htc spins its wheels regarding every issue...
I understand from a big business point of view of wanting to balance sounding good while not giving any definitive answers, but honestly its getting a little old now...
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How awesome would it be if htc let's us run plain android ala nexus on the one x .
I think it would make this phone even better than it already is.
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one thing I really dont understand is the reason manufacturers put their own ui on top of android phones. Its not like they are gonna get any extra money from it. It seems like they are just too ignorant to realize that paying software engineers to create Sense UI and making their customers butthurt while using it is a complete waste when all we want is an unobtrusive android experience. I would gladly take a delayed kernel source if that meant that phones shipped with vanilla android.
ethantarheels123 said:
one thing I really dont understand is the reason manufacturers put their own ui on top of android phones. Its not like they are gonna get any extra money from it. It seems like they are just too ignorant to realize that paying software engineers to create Sense UI and making their customers butthurt while using it is a complete waste when all we want is an unobtrusive android experience. I would gladly take a delayed kernel source if that meant that phones shipped with vanilla android.
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The custom ui's draw some people in, the buy the phone because the love sense, or touchwiz. Many people run custom launchera, but some but phones specifically because the want that custom ui.
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gunnyman said:
2014
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From AT&T ya... if at all. HTC will prolly push it out around September/October.
Red5 said:
From AT&T ya... if at all. HTC will prolly push it out around September/October.
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Indeed
As soon as we have source builds will start so maybe July/August
They are probably working on it now. They might be one of the few oems that got the pdk a bit early that Google announced. So hopefully updates will roll out faster
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ethantarheels123 said:
one thing I really dont understand is the reason manufacturers put their own ui on top of android phones. Its not like they are gonna get any extra money from it. It seems like they are just too ignorant to realize that paying software engineers to create Sense UI and making their customers butthurt while using it is a complete waste when all we want is an unobtrusive android experience. I would gladly take a delayed kernel source if that meant that phones shipped with vanilla android.
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Sense 4 is not bad and better than stock ics in some ways.
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ethantarheels123 said:
one thing I really dont understand is the reason manufacturers put their own ui on top of android phones. Its not like they are gonna get any extra money from it. It seems like they are just too ignorant to realize that paying software engineers to create Sense UI and making their customers butthurt while using it is a complete waste when all we want is an unobtrusive android experience. I would gladly take a delayed kernel source if that meant that phones shipped with vanilla android.
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They do this to help differentiate a saturated market. And believe it or not, I know quite a few people who dig sense, or tw. I myself prefer vanilla. But you have to remember there is a lot of little handy things sense does, like fb integration, that stock vanilla android does not do, and most users couldn't be bothered to play with it and mod it to work. I am just against manufacturer overlays as the next Xda user(the minority), but I'm just trying to enlighten you as to why these overlays exist, mainly to stand out from one another.
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corythug said:
They do this to help differentiate a saturated market. And believe it or not, I know quite a few people who dig sense, or tw. I myself prefer vanilla. But you have to remember there is a lot of little handy things sense does, like fb integration, that stock vanilla android does not do, and most users couldn't be bothered to play with it and mod it to work. I am just against manufacturer overlays as the next Xda user(the minority), but I'm just trying to enlighten you as to why these overlays exist, mainly to stand out from one another.
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the ONLY reason I use a sense based rom is due to facebook syncing contact pictures. Its very handy. I know of haxsync, but I don't want to pay for something that should be/is free.
Everyone is entitled to there own opinion. I for one really like sence and would never bash someone for liking aosp. If I'm not mistaken I believe the manufactures are required to mask the ui of stock android. Except for the nexus series which is marketed as a google device.
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jayv81 said:
Everyone is entitled to there own opinion. I for one really like sence and would never bash someone for liking aosp. If I'm not mistaken I believe the manufactures are required to mask the ui of stock android. Except for the nexus series which is marketed as a google device.
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Not true at all. It's the opposite. They like adding their own stuff because they think that's what sells. Go look at any "cheap" Android phone. They're actually lucky enough to get stock Android.
I've been wishing they could just make it the customers choice. It can't be hard to make a vanilla rom on top of their Sense or TW. At initial setup let us choose whether or not it installs Sense or whatever.
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Not true at all. It's the opposite. They like adding their own stuff because they think that's what sells. Go look at any "cheap" Android phone. They're actually lucky enough to get stock Android.
I've been wishing they could just make it the customers choice. It can't be hard to make a vanilla rom on top of their Sense or TW. At initial setup let us choose whether or not it installs Sense or whatever.
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rquinn I have to believe Google wants the same thing.
Google puts a lot of work into the Stock Android experience. ICS is by a huge margin better from a UI standpoint than any version that has come before it.
Trouble is, unless you're a phone geek, you won't see it.
I can only think of one or two devices besides the Nexus that DON'T skin Android.
I want to try a Huwai device for this reason. I've decided that after I'm done with this device, I'm buying a Pure Google one. If the release of the Nexus 7 and the Galaxy Nexus to the play store is any indication, Google is going into the hardware business full time, and I can't wait to see what they do.
Skins can be great, but they should be an option that you can enable or disable with a button click.
I personally love Sense, but it's what works for you, obviously. HTC's Mail app has the best Exchange support I've ever seen in Android. Granted I've never used Samsung's mail client, so maybe it's comparable, but everything else is either really flaky, incomplete, or ugly. I actually wish they would bring back the My Shelf application that was on a few phones (like the DHD.) Of all the eReaders I've tried, it's been my favourite. I also haven't seen any calendar app/widget combination that has, IMO, come close to the HTC one in terms of fluidity and completeness.
But, on the topic of Jellybean: As someone else mentioned, I'm in no rush. This phone's damn near perfect. It's almost always buttery smooth, so I don't think Project Butter will improve it a whole lot. Google Now and the improved notifications would be nice though, I guess.
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I personally love Sense, but it's what works for you, obviously. HTC's Mail app has the best Exchange support I've ever seen in Android. Granted I've never used Samsung's mail client, so maybe it's comparable, but everything else is either really flaky, incomplete, or ugly. I actually wish they would bring back the My Shelf application that was on a few phones (like the DHD.) Of all the eReaders I've tried, it's been my favourite. I also haven't seen any calendar app/widget combination that has, IMO, come close to the HTC one in terms of fluidity and completeness.
But, on the topic of Jellybean: As someone else mentioned, I'm in no rush. This phone's damn near perfect. It's almost always buttery smooth, so I don't think Project Butter will improve it a whole lot. Google Now and the improved notifications would be nice though, I guess.
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Project butter will, think of it like a tune up to a car, but a tune up to the Android code, probably a copy of linaro code on cm9.
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why do phone manufacturers use a custom skin on there devices?

i see no reason to put time and resources in a skin when vanilla android is good.
also, customers dont have to wait a year to get there updates,
anyway its a question that has always bothered me.
can anyone give me some info on this matter.
thank you.
I thought the custom skins were good on gingerbread, bringing improved design and extra features, but vanilla ICS is gorgeous and I wish people wouldn't mess with it, or they could give a theme option.
I especially hate touchwiz!
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Aden.JD said:
i see no reason to put time and resources in a skin when vanilla android is good.
also, customers dont have to wait a year to get there updates,
anyway its a question that has always bothered me.
can anyone give me some info on this matter.
thank you.
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Suggest a way to distinguish them?
Why will you buy the same product if it's already available in market? You won't. So it's very necessary to add personalized touch for each manufacturer.
Think of coca-cola and Pepsi. Same basic ingredient but still different?
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To each their own I guess. I love the Sense UI from HTC. I've owned 10 or so android phones from Samsung, Motorola, and HTC, and it's night/day experience between the brands.
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i see no reason to put time and resources in a skin when vanilla android is good.
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Before ICS "vanilla" Android wasn't very good.
The reason is differentiation. If two phones have exact same hardware, what would make you prefer one over the other is the skin. At least the ordinary customer.
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ordinary people would just look at the design of the phone rather than the specs.
TeeJay might be right that before ics android was not so good.
my first experience with an android phone is with gingerbread and htc sense on top of that.
dont know what it was like before that.
but after playing with a nexus s i already made up my mind.
my next device will be a nexus.
its called differentiation and it's useful to distinguish them from the others. hehe

[Q] OEMs putting stock Android on their phones

Guys I've be wondering...why do OEMs always skin up their UI in a way so that it becomes disgusting to use...
Many custom ROMs sure only exists just to bring the native Android feeling like on the Nexus devices to those phones, right?
I myself own a Galaxy Note, and the day I bought it I feel its system was so crapped over with all that Touchwiz bs and Samsung Apps that nobody is going to use but still runs in the background.
So, if OEMs start building 'stock' Android firmwares and only add the essential features (like S-Pen Apps), wouldn't that be awesome for its users and for the OEM, due to not having to port everyting over once a new Android version arrives, which maybe means lower costs and faster updates?
I know that it would be making phones harder to differentiate, and marketing those would be harder, but they could make two production lines or two software versions and let the users choose which they want to update to...
Maybe I am just too naive lol, but I've been searching for a phablet with as much stock UI as possible and eventually I gave up
Any answers appreciated
This already started during Gingerbread and I think even before, back then Android looked hideous and the phone manufacturers actually did a decent job back then like HTC with it's 'Sense'. I think the manufacturers are still stuck in their old habits, and trying to differentiate themselves from competitors just like before. However Android started to look beautiful from ICS and on and most of these skins now look ugly and outdated.
I think the manufacturers have to step up their game just like google did with ICS, with either improving their skins or just remove their custom skins all together.
If you want the AOSP look, buy a nexus device or flash a ROM. You will just have to trust me when I say the masses like things the way they are. Stock Android is getting pretty good, but Sony's UI I just love, and I can see a lot of things which Sony and other OEMs bring to their skin a whole version before Google does
I for myself hate Touchwiz, but if you say so
You may dislike touchwiz UI (join the club) but the fact is Samsung has a lot of closed source features not available on stock AOSP.
As mentioned before it is just brand differentiation.
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Sense is my custom skin, and I honestly don't mind Touchwiz, but stock jb or ICS is beautiful.
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Bull_Moose said:
Sense is my custom skin, and I honestly don't mind Touchwiz, but stock jb or ICS is beautiful.
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While it would be nice to have the option of choosing Stock or Skin at setup, it would be difficult because their software is completely different. I personally like Stock Android and would rather not go back to any skin for that matter.
You could also just use a launcher (and de-bloat if it's an issue for you) to get a "look".
On my phone, I only use a launcher so that I can get T-Mobile's native WIFI-calling that's TW-only. I really didn't mind TW and there were some things I really liked - but the dealbreaker was lack of customisation - little changes that I wanted to make that made the phone go from good to awesome.
If you just want the look, try Apex or Nova launcher - you don't even necessarily need root.

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