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Do you think verizon will lock the touch pro somehow?

Im not sure, but from previous experience about how verizon seems to lock out all the good features that are in the other carries version of the same phone. Many examples can be suggested, but yeah you get the point.
I was considering dropping verizon to get a fuze since the price is much more appealing.
What im trying to ask is do you think verizon will lockout a lot of features on the touch pro? ex: flashing the rom that isn't a authorized verizon htc update rom. Non verizon approved app's???
Also features that ATT offers that verizon dsnt and vise versa. +verizons supposed faster speed on a data connection. I know this should be asked at howard forums for the question, but the flashing issue would be better suited here.
thanks for your time

Verizon will do everything possible to make the phone suck... it's what they do with all their phones

http://gizmodo.com/5084980/htc-touch-pro-to-launch-on-verizon-november-24th

A few verizon employee's told me about this last monday before the info was leaked. Specs wise i know the verizon ver is worse, but im more interested in the software aspect.

Worse and $50 more expensive than the Sprint and AT&T version... I don't know how people still find it possible to stick with Verizon.

Verizon is wonderful in terms of network for a large part of the country that is why they are successful. And many people don't care about having the cutting edge or newest phones.
Verizon almost always handicaps their handsets in some way to push their own software, not unlike what ATT did with the Fuze.
If you are die hard verizon wait it out and see.

Ill wait to see, personally id rather have the Touch HD*no 3g* since its like 50$ more than a contract free verizon touch pro. Im most likely gona get the FUZE if i dont see any good reason to switch.
If i get an oportunity to have verizon leme use a demo version and ask someone who actually knows. What should I ask em like specs wise besides it being downclocked >_<? Also anything important to look out for if i get to try the demo or full ver?
ALso on the fuze is there video play back? I looked on htc's US site and didnt see any info about that, which the pro models had.

i've learned to wait and see for myself...
guys, if life has taught me anything is to wait and see, third party comments aren't always accurate.... wait and see for yourself...

Which would you choose?

If you were going to buy outright and unlocked, which version of the one x would you buy?
I know that the AT&T version of the phone had some better benchmark results along with better battery life results, but I know that can be adjusted through rom/kernel, etc.
So which would you buy outright?
The international version (Im not in an LTE market) or the ATT version?

The AT&T version without a doubt. That is, if the 16gb of storage is not an issue.

i bought outright, and i got the at&t one

would opt for the Rogers

chaosjh said:
i bought outright, and i got the at&t one
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+1...but the locked bootloader is pretty awful and is making me reconsider.

shinji21 said:
would opt for the Rogers
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Probably this. It has the HTC branding instead of AT&T... and it also has the S4 processor which has been proven to be at least on par with Tegra3 or better. Its also been proven to be better at battery life.
Also, no locked bootloader.

The international versions has had some graphical bugs and other issues, probably related to the Tegra drivers. Some folks over in the "other" forum are saying not to expect a fix from Nvidia any time soon on this.
Also, what if they end up launching LTE in your areas sometime soon? Could be a cause for regret.
The additional storage, and probable better dev support are the only real benefits of the international version, IMO.
AT&T/HTC kept the bootloader on the Vivid locked for about a month after that phone's release. I'm not worried about it, as I think a similar thing will happen with the One X.

Yeah I just sent my 32Gb baby back for a refund due to flickering getting worse n worse. I dont know if I can live with 9.9gb but I am gonna try because I loved the phone but couldnt deal with the flickering once it got bad.

The Rogers XL. In fact, I just snagged one.
Beamed from my Rogers HTC One XL

Is there a site we can order the rogers one X from or do we just have to find us a canadian friend or hope ebay has one?

Oh no locked boot loader but it will be unlocked in a month?? Oh no the world is over smh

I bought mine outright , had a 'review unit' for a week prior. Best update, was worth the $704 (Ontario HST Included) I spent on it.
.. delegated by Nigerian princes

I'd pick the AT&T version, even if not just for LTE.

[Q] Is there any reason not to get the AT&T S6?

Other than the obvious answers such as carrier branding and bloat, are there any disadvantages this time around for getting a carrier S6? I'm specifically talking about the AT&T variant which tends be $80-100 less than the T-Mobile and global variants. Last year, I remember the AT&T S5 had issues with rooting that don't seem to be apparent on the S6 due to the similar hardware among variants. Also, it appears that roms can be flashed to the AT&T S6, quite unlike the S5 at this time last year. So is there really any disadvantage, hardware and software-wise, to not save the money and get the carrier variant this time? All I can really think of is software updates, but I'm considering a few roms at the moment anyway, so that might not matter.

I think the international model will receive more support, the at&t version will get rooted, definitely, but it might not get as custom roms as the international model, or it will not get updates such fast, I dont know why the tmobile version got 5.1.1 before the international but my friend t mobile sgs4 havent recieved lollipop yet, i think they receive updates slower..

Any Canadian Users?

Any Canadians got a 3rd Gen Moto G? I know they are locked unfortunately, but are they the same model as the unlocked variant sold in the states at best buy? Due to it being carrier locked, idk how fast updates will come.

I have the Canadian one. I wanted to get the 2GB RAM variant, but unfortunately it is hard to get a hold of in Canada right now. Also, interestingly, Telus was the only carrier willing to sell one to me outright, and so I had to pay their higher $230 price. The 1GB RAM version is actually quite alright, haven't noticed any lag or low RAM issues.
The good thing is that the Canadian versions are bloatware free, and the carriers here are not too bad with updates. Also, if you are willing to unlock the bootloader, you can flash custom ROMs as well as updated stock ROMs from other regions.

squid2 said:
I have the Canadian one. I wanted to get the 2GB RAM variant, but unfortunately it is hard to get a hold of in Canada right now. Also, interestingly, Telus was the only carrier willing to sell one to me outright, and so I had to pay their higher $230 price. The 1GB RAM version is actually quite alright, haven't noticed any lag or low RAM issues.
The good thing is that the Canadian versions are bloatware free, and the carriers here are not too bad with updates. Also, if you are willing to unlock the bootloader, you can flash custom ROMs as well as updated stock ROMs from other regions.
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Thats good to know, I am going to try picking up a Moto G from Virgin Mobile. I need a decent phone to hold me until the next nexus 5 since my nexus 4 broke lol. Hows the multitasking? Can you play music and browse in chrome without it killing the music app? I am not even sure if the 2GB model is coming to Canada to be honest. Its not worth importing it form the states after currency exchange and taxes and duties

squid2 said:
I have the Canadian one. I wanted to get the 2GB RAM variant, but unfortunately it is hard to get a hold of in Canada right now. Also, interestingly, Telus was the only carrier willing to sell one to me outright, and so I had to pay their higher $230 price. The 1GB RAM version is actually quite alright, haven't noticed any lag or low RAM issues.
The good thing is that the Canadian versions are bloatware free, and the carriers here are not too bad with updates. Also, if you are willing to unlock the bootloader, you can flash custom ROMs as well as updated stock ROMs from other regions.
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Are the Canadian versions locked?

oxxshadow said:
Thats good to know, I am going to try picking up a Moto G from Virgin Mobile. I need a decent phone to hold me until the next nexus 5 since my nexus 4 broke lol. Hows the multitasking? Can you play music and browse in chrome without it killing the music app? I am not even sure if the 2GB model is coming to Canada to be honest. Its not worth importing it form the states after currency exchange and taxes and duties
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Basic multitasking is no problem whatsoever. I have 5 web tabs, hangouts, and a music player open right now and I can switch between any web tabs or open apps without any reloading or lag.
As you said., It doesn't look like the 2GB RAM version is coming to Canada, and the exchange rates don't make sense for importing it from the US. It's a shame though, I don't know why Motorola can't just offer it for sale retail here (through Staples or Best Buy or something like that, as they did with previous Moto G models).
The Canadian versions are carrier locked, but the bootloader can be unlocked. You can carrier unlock them too from various online sites (or from your carrier at an excessive cost).

XT1540 1g user here,all run smooth and battery is not bad (4-5h sot) waiting for an aosp cm ROM to come out
The device worth 216$ from koodo Carrier.
Anyone know how to unlock the Sim ?

U.S. Unlocked vs International Unlocked phone

Hello
I'm looking at replacing my S4 with an S7. My carrier in the US is AT&T and that won't be changing. I've been looking at different unlocked versions and can't find a solid representation of what the real world differences are. I know they have different processors. Some say a band is missing, but does that matter. I don't use android or samsung pay, but i know there is a difference here too. I found one comment about some kind of samsung 'coverage' plan, but what is that?
Best Buy has US unlocked phones for about $700. B&H Photo has an International phone for about $640. Its a lot of money either way. Is one phone really better or different than that other?
I am planning a trip through Canada and maybe to Europe. I assume either would take a SIM from those areas and I could avoid getting raped by international fees.
Here is a summary of question I can think of:
Does the US unlocked phone from BestBuy have a warranty or insurance or anything like that?
Can the US phone be rooted. I only do this to remove apps I don't use.
Is the hardware one vs the other really better or just different?
Does a dual SIM do anything useful?
Does a band being missing make a real world difference?
Is there a good comparison somewhere to that can decide on a phone to purchase?

It comes with a limited warranty as stated on their site:
"This device is not warrantied through the manufacturer. This device has a limited 1 year warranty provided by CCR Warranty. To obtain technical or warranty assistance, please contact CCR Warranty at 866-579-8436."
What I don't know is how useful/limited that warranty is. I'd like the HTC 10 but the unlocked S7 is my runner up, and the warranty issue is one of the major factors in my hesitation.
I do believe it can be rooted.
As far as I know, through research, the only major difference between the two is battery life.

Hello, I'll just go straight to the answers.
1. I'm going to assume that if you go through a carrier (att, t-mobile etc etc.) they will offer an insurance plan. You will have to go to third party insurance for the international version
2. As far I know, the US version does not have a root option yet. Because of the locked bootloader.
3. Hardware will depend on which version you choose. Both are very good.
4. Dual sim is as the name implies, you'll be able to use 2 separate sim cards with their respective #s. that's the only benefit really.
5. Missing radio bands is something you may have to do some research on depending your location.
6. I'm sure YouTube or some online site will have some reviews/comparison of both.

I just looked at the best buy website again and something is different. The S7 listed for $690 is definitely the international version and not the US version. When I looked last month I was positive that the phone was listed as a US phone ... huh

A little late
a little late to the thread but just wanted to share what I learned while researching the matter.
There is an US unlocked version of the S7 (g930u) and available through a few places (Best Buy, B&H, Ebay). It goes for $679.99 retail and I have not been able to find one that goes for less. Probably because it just came out end of June. The biggest benefit of it is that it has a bunch of bands and CDMA-compatible. Thus, you can get full connection with AT&T and TMobile. Downside is no wifi calling or VOLTE (as those seem to be locked by the carriers to their own phones).
The international versions (930f/930fd) are both available on Ebay/Swappa for about $500. Upside are that they have the Exnyos chip and no bloatware. You can also root and flash them with new ROM. Another thing is that you get updates earlier. I got Marshmallow on my s6 a month or so before AT&T released its update. Downsides are no Samsung Pay or WiFi Calling/VOLTE and the biggie...missing bands. I had a g920i and it was missing support for bands 29 and 30 on AT&T...this led to poor LTE and indoor reception at times. I would have to turn on/off the mobile data switch sometimes to get good connection.
Finally, we have carrier based versions, which loads you down with bloatware and has the Snapdragon chip. But, it does support all features of your carrier. Slower updates also an issue and lack of support of all bands internationally are additional drawbacks. Cost is also about $500.
Personally, I am going with an unlocked 930a. Bloatware sucks but I can delete or disable almost all of them. Snapdragon seems pretty powerful to me. Samsung Pay, Wifi Calling, and Band support are just too important for me. Note, make sure you ask the seller on Ebay/Swappa about whether the phone is unlocked.
Hope that helps.

I did a lot of research into this before buying my S7 but was kind of screwed since I'm on Verizon (CDMA)...
Since you're on AT&T you have more options.
There are two different processors in the two different models, Snapdragon 820 in the US CDMA capable and an Eyxnos in the International GSM ONLY phone.
After doing my research, I personally recommend the Eyxnos, which I couldn't get :/
If for nothing else, better battery life, by far. Do some research into the comparison between the two.
However! When buying from Best Buy be careful!
Last I checked, on their website, the black/onyx S7 was an unlocked US Snapdragon 820 phone.... while strangely enough the other two, gold and silver? were both unlocked US (actually international) Eyxnos phones.
Also, last I checked Samsung themselves only sell the CDMA snapdragon processor model to the US.
Unless Best Buy made a mistake listing the Eyxnos processor, it is the only way to get that model without buying an "internationally sourced" phone on ebay.

Just a few notes:
1) The G930u is fully compatible with all the US Carriers
2) VoLTE works on both T-Mobile and Verizon
3) Wi-Fi Calling works on T-Mobile and potentially Verizon (but I am not positive about Verizon).
The big downside to the G930u is that for whatever reason it is not receiving updates from Samsung when its branded siblings are.