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Skip bo disappeared from android market...

Any chance anybody has the Skip Bo apk? I had it on my phone but installed a custom rom last night and when I went to download it from the market this morning it was gone. Checked out the developers website/blog and he said it was taken down due to unforseen complications.
I have a nandroid backup that has it on there but how do I get to it without doing a full restore?
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I recently found a really good solution to your problem. I love to flash different roms and new releases but have recently found myself hesitant of doing so just because of having to set up all your apps and profiles back to the way you had them. But thanks to a fellow XDA member I have discovered that when using ClockWorkMod Recovery you can easily restore all data from your latest back up. To do so: simply go into Recovery mode, select NANDROID, you will have three options BACKUP, RESTORE, and ADVANCED RESTORE. Select ADVANCED RESTORE and you will be prompted to select which backup you want to restore from. Once you have chosen your most recent BACKUP you will be prompted to RESTORE boot, system, data, cache, or sd-ext. Select Restore data and flash and WOILA!!! When your phone reboots your new ROM will have ALL of your previous DATA and I do mean ALL. Text messages, call history, apps, EVERYTHING. Your phone will even have the wallpaper you had before you data wiped for the new ROM. Hope this helps, I know that it has made me a lot more willing to do anything requiring a data wipe. Anyways, I don't know much but if you happen to learn anything worthwhile and you see someone having a problem take a couple of minutes out of your day and help them. Because this community will only get better when people stop FLAMING and start HELPING... Anyways, peace

That I would be interested too

titansfan745 said:
I recently found a really good solution to your problem. I love to flash different roms and new releases but have recently found myself hesitant of doing so just because of having to set up all your apps and profiles back to the way you had them. But thanks to a fellow XDA member I have discovered that when using ClockWorkMod Recovery you can easily restore all data from your latest back up. To do so: simply go into Recovery mode, select NANDROID, you will have three options BACKUP, RESTORE, and ADVANCED RESTORE. Select ADVANCED RESTORE and you will be prompted to select which backup you want to restore from. Once you have chosen your most recent BACKUP you will be prompted to RESTORE boot, system, data, cache, or sd-ext. Select Restore data and flash and WOILA!!! When your phone reboots your new ROM will have ALL of your previous DATA and I do mean ALL. Text messages, call history, apps, EVERYTHING. Your phone will even have the wallpaper you had before you data wiped for the new ROM. Hope this helps, I know that it has made me a lot more willing to do anything requiring a data wipe. Anyways, I don't know much but if you happen to learn anything worthwhile and you see someone having a problem take a couple of minutes out of your day and help them. Because this community will only get better when people stop FLAMING and start HELPING... Anyways, peace
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What recovery do you use? I couldn't find that using AR 1.8
Edit; NM I see it in your post.

Well i dont have it but if you find it i would love to have it lol

also need it
I rooted my wife's EVO tonight telling her she could get all of her games and apps back. Unfortunately I was wrong, skip bo her fav game is missing from the market. I am also looking for this apk if anyone else has it.
Thanks.

titansfan745 said:
I recently found a really good solution to your problem. I love to flash different roms and new releases but have recently found myself hesitant of doing so just because of having to set up all your apps and profiles back to the way you had them. But thanks to a fellow XDA member I have discovered that when using ClockWorkMod Recovery you can easily restore all data from your latest back up. To do so: simply go into Recovery mode, select NANDROID, you will have three options BACKUP, RESTORE, and ADVANCED RESTORE. Select ADVANCED RESTORE and you will be prompted to select which backup you want to restore from. Once you have chosen your most recent BACKUP you will be prompted to RESTORE boot, system, data, cache, or sd-ext. Select Restore data and flash and WOILA!!! When your phone reboots your new ROM will have ALL of your previous DATA and I do mean ALL. Text messages, call history, apps, EVERYTHING. Your phone will even have the wallpaper you had before you data wiped for the new ROM. Hope this helps, I know that it has made me a lot more willing to do anything requiring a data wipe. Anyways, I don't know much but if you happen to learn anything worthwhile and you see someone having a problem take a couple of minutes out of your day and help them. Because this community will only get better when people stop FLAMING and start HELPING... Anyways, peace
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Wow! thanks alot man, i love flashing new roms/ mods too, & hated having to set up my screens/ apps all over again. Before flashing a new rom, i used to draw out my screens/ apps on a piece of paper just so i could remember what i had, & where. It's really wierd cuz' lots of people down clockworkmod recovery, & seem to favor amon ra, but i've had, & rooted my evo since launch day, & never had problems with it, this makes me feel lots better with my recovery choice

skipbo apk
That's nice about the back up but, seriously, does anyone have the skipbo apk!?

Look on 4shared.com
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ajd2416 said:
Look on 4shared.com
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Do you have a link? Can't find skip bo for android on 4shared.com

Try this if yku have skipbo.
If you have skipbo install AppBackupReinstall
Go in, select skipbo, hit menu, select backup. Now go into your sdcard go to appbackup and post that file please.
I have been going thru withdrawal on this game.
I may have it tonight if I can walk my non tech savy brother thru this, if not I will have it on Xmast and post.

Here you go
Ok, so I have attached the APK I created from the instructions prior and a zip file of it.
Make sure you have gone into applications and selected UNKNOWN SOURCES

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Let's get the thanks meter going, I need to get out of this junior member status.

So sorry I dont, 4shared has always been a last restore. When you flashed did you do any type of back up. The game can be lost on the sd card.
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ryanlashway said:
Ok, so I have attached the APK I created from the instructions prior and a zip file of it.
Make sure you have gone into applications and selected UNKNOWN SOURCES
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Thank you VERY MUCH! My wife was going crazy that she could not get this back. She's a happy camper now!

I wonder why he had to remove it. If it's because Mattel had an issue with them marketing it as Skip Bo, that's lame. Unless they're planning to come out with one themselves or license it to someone...

bkrodgers said:
I wonder why he had to remove it. If it's because Mattel had an issue with them marketing it as Skip Bo, that's lame. Unless they're planning to come out with one themselves or license it to someone...
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Probably the same reason facebook had to get rid of the scrabulous app. Now scrabble has their stuff all over the place. I'm sure most of the major game companies have put up trademarks all over the place for all those games they manufacture, whether or not they intend on making a "mobile" version of the game. I think Mattell should pay that guy who developed the game for his hard work, pay him to improve it, then pay him royalties for when they release it to the market themselves.

Thank you Ryanlashway
Stumbled upon this forum while looking for skipbo. Thank you so much uploading it! I can't seem to figure out how to add to the thanks meter. Would be happy to do so.

Thanks a lot!

Thanks a lot!

Need a few clarifications prior to attempting to flash my first custom ROM...

Hello All,
I've already successfully rooted and installed CWM touch.
I have also spend hours and hours reading the forums before actually attempting to flash my first ROM. To which the process seems straight forward.
But after all I have read, I still have some questions and need some clarifications on few things. I hope someone can take the time to answer them for me.
CWM nandroid backups only backup the current ROM. No apps, settings, or personal data.
Titanium backups contain all the Apps and their settings.
Questions regarding Titanium Backups:
- Do the "settings" backups include login credentials (username/password)?
- Does it backup system type settings? WiFi hotspots, keys, sync accounts, etc? I noticed Wifi in the backup list, but wanted to confirm.
- What, if any, system/app settings are not included in a Titanium backup?
Non-Titanium Backup Questions:
- What is used to backup pics, music, downloads, and other personal data?
- Is a full factory reset suggested/recommended when switching between ROMs (i.e CM9 to SkyICS)? Or is this an overkill, and wiping is enough?
- If I ever chose to perform a full factory reset. Do I just restore everything from Titanium Backup?
- Are there any backup items which I should avoid restoring?
- Is there anything which won't be restored?
Basically I don't want to be caught with my pants down and find out I lost XYZ should something go wrong, or should I ever do a factory reset.
Thanks in advance for any information/guidance anybody can provide.
Best Regards,
Gavin

Nandroid:
Backs up everything on your phone.
All you data, settings, apps, personal data. EVERYTHING.
TB:
Backs up apps+ App data
It also backs up your wifi settings and sync account info.
If you install a fresh ROM you can use TB to reinstall your apps +app data and other things you select.
As for your pictures, music, download, ext. You don't need to worry about these. You can do a factory reset and you will still have all your music, pictures, ext.
Rom:
Every ROM has it's own method of instillation and updating.
Standard method:
1. Factory Reset/Wipe Data
2. Wipe Cache
3. Advance Settings -> Wipe Dalvik Cache
4. Mounts and Storage -> Format /Data
5. Mounts and Storage -> Format /System
6. Mounts and Storage -> Format /Cache
Now your safe to install a fresh new ROM.

Thanks!
Sounds like switching between ROMs isn't as painful as I thought.
I've been wanting to, but dreading to because of all the configurings I thought I would have to redo.

I use titanium backup as well as mybackup pro for holding onto senstive info for reinstallation on new roms. They are a power combo for apks, contacts, sms logs, bookmarks, etc. The list goes on, but they've gotten me through a few tough spots!
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Nandroid backs up everything EXCEPT the radio (modem). You'll need to flash a radio after a nandroid restore IF you want a different radio than what is currently on modem partition.

Coming from a relatively new Android/linux user with a background firmly rooted in Windows, I assure you that the process of flashing is definitely much less harrowing than it sounds.
Reading + discretion = winning!
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Shankre said:
Thanks!
Sounds like switching between ROMs isn't as painful as I thought.
I've been wanting to, but dreading to because of all the configurings I thought I would have to redo.
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If you've read everything (which it seems like you have) and you're careful to follow the dev's instructions to the letter, it's really easy. The whole process only takes about 10 minutes from backup to rebooting the new ROM once you're used to it.

robcore said:
I use titanium backup as well as mybackup pro for holding onto senstive info for reinstallation on new roms. They are a power combo for apks, contacts, sms logs, bookmarks, etc. The list goes on, but they've gotten me through a few tough spots!
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Does Titanium backup not save sms, call logs and such?
What does mybackup pro do that Titanium doesn't? Is it for redundancy/peace of mind?
How do people backup personal data, pics, downloads, music, etc? I like to have backups in case the phone is ever lost or broken.
Thanks!

Shankre said:
Does Titanium backup not save sms, call logs and such?
What does mybackup pro do that Titanium doesn't? Is it for redundancy/peace of mind?
How do people backup personal data, pics, downloads, music, etc? I like to have backups in case the phone is ever lost or broken.
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I won't speak to Tibu saving call logs, etc., because I'm not sure. I don't restore system data (unless I'm having a stupid moment), as it can cause problems that force a re-wipe and re-flash.
I can tell you that the easiest way to back up personal data etc. is to move it off of the phone/SD card and onto your computer ASAP. That's how I do it.

I am still on AT&T GB 2.3.5.
Looking for a daily driver that's stable and good on the battery. Basic apps ok, but no carrier bloat.
Preferably JB if they are stable, otherwise ICS is fine.
Any ROM suggestions to start with first. There seem to be so many out there... Dont know which to try. The nexus mod and unnamed seemed interesting but were abandonded. CM10? Skyics (margerine)? Other?
Also, why would I want or need a different/modified kernel?
Thanks again everyone for the very helpful info!

T.J. Bender said:
I won't speak to Tibu saving call logs, etc., because I'm not sure. I don't restore system data (unless I'm having a stupid moment), as it can cause problems that force a re-wipe and re-flash.
I can tell you that the easiest way to back up personal data etc. is to move it off of the phone/SD card and onto your computer ASAP. That's how I do it.
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Yup, its as easy as plugging in a usb cord then dragging and dropping to your pc ( dont ask me about macs...). And titanium backup is primarily an apk backup/restore/freeze application, including system apps.
The other info just isnt an included feature in TB, youd have to ask its developer why.
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Shankre said:
I am still on AT&T GB 2.3.5.
Looking for a daily driver that's stable and good on the battery. Basic apps ok, but no carrier bloat.
Preferably JB if they are stable, otherwise ICS is fine.
Any ROM suggestions to start with first. There seem to be so many out there... Dont know which to try. The nexus mod and unnamed seemed interesting but were abandonded. CM10? Skyics (margerine)? Other?
Also, why would I want or need a different/modified kernel?
Thanks again everyone for the very helpful info!
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No rom suggestions try them yourself as asking for a best rom is not accepted by our moderators
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Illnevertell said:
No rom suggestions try them yourself as asking for a best rom is not accepted by our moderators
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I didn't ask for a "best", since I know each ROM has its pros and cons.
Was hoping for some direction based on the needs/preferences mentioned.
Also was inquired as to the stability of current JB releases, as well as opinions for some ROMs which I had already identified as possibilities for my needs.
Were my questions that unreasonable that I shouldn't ask the more experienced users of this community?

Shankre said:
I didn't ask for a "best", since I know each ROM has its pros and cons.
Was hoping for some direction based on the needs/preferences mentioned.
Also was inquired as to the stability of current JB releases, as well as opinions for some ROMs which I had already identified as possibilities for my needs.
Were my questions that unreasonable that I shouldn't ask the more experienced users of this community?
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They are unreasonable in the sense that it creates lots of problems as no one rom is better than another and its based on usage I will ask that you avoid the question the moderators don't want to see endorsement of individuals work over another so try them out for yourself and see what you like
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Illnevertell said:
They are unreasonable in the sense that it creates lots of problems as no one rom is better than another and its based on usage I will ask that you avoid the question the moderators don't want to see endorsement of individuals work over another so try them out for yourself and see what you like
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Understood. That was not my intention at all.

Which backup tool to choose?

Hi there! I've been reading (a lot) around here the last months and that's been really helpfull. Went from stock GB on my locked XPS through just about all ROM's available for XPS to CM10 now. Thanks XDA, thanks all!
Still a real lot to learn. One of the things that really keeps me wondering is which method (besides a Nandroid) I shld use for backing up. Google takes care of my contacts and settings automatically. But what is the best tool to backup and restore my apps (question 1)? I've used Astro, Go Backup and several others I can't even remember. And if I use one, do I still need Gapps all the time or is that doing a double job (question 2)?
My last question: I understand doing an upgrade of your custom rom you don't need to swipe, so your data stays. But if you do need to, when can you do a data restore after installing a new ROM (question 3)?

1. For backing up and restoring apps, I use Titanium Backup and I think most people would swear by it ( it's worth the donate for the extra features ). For sms though, GoSMS's backup feature is the best working one for me.
2. I'm pretty sure you still need to flash Gapps, but I'm not sure. Been off Cyan for a while. Besides, I think flashing Gapps is faster than restoring through most backup apps.
3. It depends on the rom and you should read the ROM's thread, but I always wipe between updates just in case ( I have an SGSII ). If you mean restore data by Titanium or another app, I think after letting the phone sit for 10 minutes on initial new ROM boot, you can start restoring apps. If you mean selectively restoring just data through nandroid though, I'm not sure if that should even be done, or how exactly to minimize issues.
Hope that helps.

DIMENSIONAL said:
1. For backing up and restoring apps, I use Titanium Backup and I think most people would swear by it ( it's worth the donate for the extra features ). For sms though, GoSMS's backup feature is the best working one for me.
2. I'm pretty sure you still need to flash Gapps, but I'm not sure. Been off Cyan for a while. Besides, I think flashing Gapps is faster than restoring through most backup apps.
3. It depends on the rom and you should read the ROM's thread, but I always wipe between updates just in case ( I have an SGSII ). If you mean restore data by Titanium or another app, I think after letting the phone sit for 10 minutes on initial new ROM boot, you can start restoring apps. If you mean selectively restoring just data through nandroid though, I'm not sure if that should even be done, or how exactly to minimize issues.
Hope that helps.
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tx DIMENSIONAL!
Late night yesterday I ran into this app here on fxp: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1859261 Maybe that might become (be) handy? Not for me yet, due to problems with XPS for this app at the moment
2. Gapps.... Gapps is faster for sure. But not off course not exactly the things you want.... But there's something out to make your own zip.file with all your apps and/or other data and system files in it I think. Stopped reading when it got to complicated for me to try without much feedback at that moment. Sorry I forgot to mark the thread. Lost it for now.
3. I did this data restore thing once after reading a tip in a thread for a particular ROM here somewhere.

VincentKnife said:
tx DIMENSIONAL!
Late night yesterday I ran into this app here on fxp: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1859261 Maybe that might become (be) handy? Not for me yet, due to problems with XPS for this app at the moment
2. Gapps.... Gapps is faster for sure. But not off course not exactly the things you want.... But there's something out to make your own zip.file with all your apps and/or other data and system files in it I think. Stopped reading when it got to complicated for me to try without much feedback at that moment. Sorry I forgot to mark the thread. Lost it for now.
3. I did this data restore thing once after reading a tip in a thread for a particular ROM here somewhere.
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edit: installed titanium backup; needs a lot of reading agai,n but looks great! tx again!

Another vote for titanium & the pro key here. I prefer"appextractor“ from the play store for my sms/mms restore & I also use the contact restore feature, since it also takes care of my call log (both of these features use data from nandroid), since I have given up on using titanium to restore sms & get the time accurate.
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[Q] What should i use for backup and restore instead of TiBu?

i was just reading the CM10.1 nightlies thread, and most posters there have been saying that using TiBu to backup and restore apps is a *bad* thing when doing a fresh install of the latest nightly ROM build.
so, uh, what should we be doing to backup and restore data?
i'd like to keep my call logs and SMS data. i also have some savegames from game apps i'd like to keep. TiBu seems to have some specific options as to backing up SMSes and call logs. is that safe to backup and then restore to a new ROM install?
what about user apps? i'm fine with just reinstalling most apps, but there are some apps that have saved data that i'd really like to keep!

there are apps specifically for backing up sms and call longs
the reason that people dont like Tibu as much is some of the cache it restores can conflict with newer builds and android is pretty good at restoring most of the things on its own

People have different preferences. My general preference with CyanogenMod is the cwm recovery. Either the sk8 version ( which is brilliant) or the regular one that comes with CyanogenMod.
I always get into cwm recovery and do a back up to external SD. Then wipe and clean and install the new cm, no reboot yet and go to advanced restore option of the backup and then restore ONLY the data portion of the backup.
All your customizations, apps, app data, app saved data, logs, SMS, phone log ... Is there to be restored.
Reboot and you're done.
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fightinfilipino said:
i was just reading the CM10.1 nightlies thread, and most posters there have been saying that using TiBu to backup and restore apps is a *bad* thing when doing a fresh install of the latest nightly ROM build.
so, uh, what should we be doing to backup and restore data?
i'd like to keep my call logs and SMS data. i also have some savegames from game apps i'd like to keep. TiBu seems to have some specific options as to backing up SMSes and call logs. is that safe to backup and then restore to a new ROM install?
what about user apps? i'm fine with just reinstalling most apps, but there are some apps that have saved data that i'd really like to keep!
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Helium from the maker of CWM is free and super simple. They could've included an option to only backup an apps data but oh well it's still great. :good:

Commodore 64 said:
People have different preferences. My general preference with CyanogenMod is the cwm recovery. Either the sk8 version ( which is brilliant) or the regular one that comes with CyanogenMod.
I always get into cwm recovery and do a back up to external SD. Then wipe and clean and install the new cm, no reboot yet and go to advanced restore option of the backup and then restore ONLY the data portion of the backup.
All your customizations, apps, app data, app saved data, logs, SMS, phone log ... Is there to be restored.
Reboot and you're done.
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ty, that makes sense.
i'm on an older version of CWM (6.0.1.0, i believe). am i able to just flash a new version of CWM (sk8's or whatever) from my current CWM? i can't seem to find a straight answer on the forums or from googling...

Yea you can. Just flash the sk8 and then under advanced choose reboot recovery after install and you're going to be in the new recovery mod
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Thanks for asking!
fightinfilipino said:
so, uh, what should we be doing to backup and restore data?
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Thanks for asking! I've been wondering something along these lines, but I wasn't even sure what to ask. I think you've formed the question better than I would have.
But I guess I'm not seeing a consensus either. I was under the impression that there everyone else knew the best way to do it and it was so obvious that no one ever even bothered to speak of it. That, or people just enjoy losing their saved games, call logs, etc.
So to be clear, here's what I've gathered from this thread:
You can restore just apps and their data
One way is to backup and restore the /data partition
Another way is though custom apps
One such app is Helium
Did I miss anything?

Trinition said:
Thanks for asking! I've been wondering something along these lines, but I wasn't even sure what to ask. I think you've formed the question better than I would have.
But I guess I'm not seeing a consensus either. I was under the impression that there everyone else knew the best way to do it and it was so obvious that no one ever even bothered to speak of it. That, or people just enjoy losing their saved games, call logs, etc.
So to be clear, here's what I've gathered from this thread:
You can restore just apps and their data
One way is to backup and restore the /data partition
Another way is though custom apps
One such app is Helium
Did I miss anything?
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I never restore anything. I backup my call logs and texts to gmail, but I don't restore them. Why would you?
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Trinition said:
Thanks for asking! I've been wondering something along these lines, but I wasn't even sure what to ask. I think you've formed the question better than I would have.
But I guess I'm not seeing a consensus either. I was under the impression that there everyone else knew the best way to do it and it was so obvious that no one ever even bothered to speak of it. That, or people just enjoy losing their saved games, call logs, etc.
So to be clear, here's what I've gathered from this thread:
You can restore just apps and their data
One way is to backup and restore the /data partition
Another way is though custom apps
One such app is Helium
Did I miss anything?
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Maybe that you can backup to the cloud, with Helium and others. But except for that i think you've got it covered.

Commodore 64 said:
People have different preferences. My general preference with CyanogenMod is the cwm recovery. Either the sk8 version ( which is brilliant) or the regular one that comes with CyanogenMod.
I always get into cwm recovery and do a back up to external SD. Then wipe and clean and install the new cm, no reboot yet and go to advanced restore option of the backup and then restore ONLY the data portion of the backup.
All your customizations, apps, app data, app saved data, logs, SMS, phone log ... Is there to be restored.
Reboot and you're done.
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just as a quick update, i did exactly this (using sk8's CWM recovery) and it seems to have worked like a charm. did a clean wipe (factory reset/format cache, data, system, dalvik's) and then installed Cyanogenmod 10.1 N15. then before rebooting i restored just the data. worked pretty well!

fightinfilipino said:
just as a quick update, i did exactly this (using sk8's CWM recovery) and it seems to have worked like a charm. did a clean wipe (factory reset/format cache, data, system, dalvik's) and then installed Cyanogenmod 10.1 N15. then before rebooting i restored just the data. worked pretty well!
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Good for you. But that is almost the same as a dirty flash.
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rushi.1986 said:
Good for you. But that is almost the same as a dirty flash.
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oh, that is SO helpful of you.
well if that's not the best way to backup and restore WHAT IS?
seriously, i wish there was a "no thank you" button for useless, insulting posts like yours! >:[

fightinfilipino said:
oh, that is SO helpful of you.
well if that's not the best way to backup and restore WHAT IS?
seriously, i wish there was a "no thank you" button for useless, insulting posts like yours! >:[
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You shouldn't restore anything.
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fightinfilipino said:
oh, that is SO helpful of you.
well if that's not the best way to backup and restore WHAT IS?
seriously, i wish there was a "no thank you" button for useless, insulting posts like yours! >:[
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There is no best way because there's always a risk it will cause issues. Either accept the level of risk involved or do what's recommended, you can't have your cake and eat it too in this case.
Personally I use android tuner pro as a backup solution. I know the risks involved and I don't post and complain when it doesn't work I find the problem and fix it or I do what I'm supposed to do.
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mtdew said:
There is no best way because there's always a risk it will cause issues. Either accept the level of risk involved or do what's recommended, you can't have your cake and eat it too in this case.
Personally I use android tuner pro as a backup solution. I know the risks involved and I don't post and complain when it doesn't work I find the problem and fix it or I do what I'm supposed to do.
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the problem is that "what's recommended" varies wildly, even here. some people in this thread recommended i restore the data partition from a nandroid backup. other users recommended i use Helium. now some users are simply saying not to restore anything at all.
and some persons (rushi.1986) are posting completely unhelpful, snarky things without even understanding the context of the thread.
let me ask a more granular question: if i backup and restore specific game apps that are user apps, sms data, and call logs, and nothing else, will this reduce my risk? if i wanted to do these particular things, what is the better tool to do so?
and i have a wider question: is it really that custom rom users now simply don't keep certain data when they upgrade or switch their rom?

fightinfilipino said:
the problem is that "what's recommended" varies wildly, even here. some people in this thread recommended i restore the data partition from a nandroid backup. other users recommended i use Helium. now some users are simply saying not to restore anything at all.
and some persons (rushi.1986) are posting completely unhelpful, snarky things without even understanding the context of the thread.
let me ask a more granular question: if i backup and restore specific game apps that are user apps, sms data, and call logs, and nothing else, will this reduce my risk? if i wanted to do these particular things, what is the better tool to do so?
and i have a wider question: is it really that custom rom users now simply don't keep certain data when they upgrade or switch their rom?
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His answer was far from snarky and was actually correct the method stated is just a dirty flash with more steps and is more risky.
It's recommended not to restore anything but if you must be ready to accepted the consequence if there are any. Typically with android tuner I don't have issues.
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fightinfilipino said:
the problem is that "what's recommended" varies wildly, even here. some people in this thread recommended i restore the data partition from a nandroid backup. other users recommended i use Helium. now some users are simply saying not to restore anything at all.
and some persons (rushi.1986) are posting completely unhelpful, snarky things without even understanding the context of the thread.
let me ask a more granular question: if i backup and restore specific game apps that are user apps, sms data, and call logs, and nothing else, will this reduce my risk? if i wanted to do these particular things, what is the better tool to do so?
and i have a wider question: is it really that custom rom users now simply don't keep certain data when they upgrade or switch their rom?
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I am yet to encounter any issues restoring user apps and user data using titanium backup. However, ppl who know better say its bad. Since I have not had any issues, I do it anyways.
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rushi.1986 said:
I am yet to encounter any issues restoring user apps and user data using titanium backup. However, ppl who know better say its bad. Since I have not had any issues, I do it anyways.
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99% of the time you won't but with all of the changes recently all precautions needed to be taken. Like I said I normally don't have too many issues, every once in a while though.
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Restoring user apps will not mess up your ROM. Unless it is root related y would it? If the app doesn't work after install then install it from the market.
Restoring system apps can effect your ROM. Most system apps are different based on the ROM that you use. Example being restoring them from cm 10 to cm 10.1, or even different nightlies.
Titanium backup is the way to go. Chronium aka helium is supposed to be good, its a preference thing IMO.
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rushi.1986 said:
I am yet to encounter any issues restoring user apps and user data using titanium backup. However, ppl who know better say its bad. Since I have not had any issues, I do it anyways.
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This is a good way to go.. If it works for you, then you have your solution. Thing is, everyone's phone has had different experiences with different apps, ROMs, settings, etc. and what works for one may not work for another.
Personally, I prefer the backup feature in ROM Toolbox pro. Easy to use, bulk features, and I had fewer issues than on TiBu. BUT, with all the recent app updates trying to keep up with Rom changes, I've found it to be far more stable to just reinstall from the Play store. It seems to also be prudent to get rid of any app that may be redundant to native ROM features (in my case). Just keep it simple.
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[Q] Maximise storage space

Hey guys, i am interested in maximising my HTC One Mini 601s storage space and have seen this but i am unsure if i would be able to use it on my phone, or how to for that matter.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2348256
Straight out of the box the storage is 5.2GB / 16.00GB used and id love to remove the bloatware apps but for some reason using titanium backup with root access wont get rid of them (they just appear again after reset)
Im pretty novice in the ways of android at the moment so i dont want to go deleting files using root explorer and brick my phone.
I thought about putting on the magio rom, but i hear it can potentially be unstable or mysteriously drain battery life.
I guess what i am asking is, what is the best way to bring my phone right back to stock android, remove bloat and maximise space?

I'm using Magio R3 and haven't had any battery issues. For me the best version of android for our phones, though I only used stock for a couple of weeks before rooting. I'm able to use the JMZ kernel which has some nice touches, and I don't suffer any wierd bugs. Though with this version a few paid apps are blocked from play store. But easy enough to grab else where and send them a cheque in the post. Magio has some apps removed but not all that can be. I'm still testing which can be removed and which can't.
Anyways.. Only had a glance at this rom cleaner but it might just be for Samsung phones. You wanna search for a HTC one. Personally I don't like these system app removal scripts. They always take something you use and leave stuff you don't. Plus they can still brick your phone if not specifically designed for your phone.
Personally I make a nandroid backup and use Titanium Backup to remove system apps. If you find an app your unsure about Google it, there are a lot of descriptions for all the htc apps on Google.
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Thanks for the reply Ruffbuster,
Ill keep away from ROM cleaners since i can only find a htc one x version.
I don't think i am ready to replace a kernel, but installing the Magio rom could be on the cards later.
I have two questions though
1) Can i completely 'format' my internal storage before i put on the rom, or will that just brick the phone
2) Any idea why Rooted Titanium Backup cant uninstall bloatware (they just re-appear upon reset)

serpentxx said:
Thanks for the reply Ruffbuster,
Ill keep away from ROM cleaners since i can only find a htc one x version.
I don't think i am ready to replace a kernel, but installing the Magio rom could be on the cards later.
I have two questions though
1) Can i completely 'format' my internal storage before i put on the rom, or will that just brick the phone
2) Any idea why Rooted Titanium Backup cant uninstall bloatware (they just re-appear upon reset)
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When you are i recovery ready to flash your new ROM, if you want to COMPLETELY loose all your user data, then you wipe a factory reset, then FORMAT data, it will ask you to type "yes" to make sure you actually want to do this....
You can't get rid of the system apps as the system is write-protected - this can be made read/write by either s-off (advanced) or flashing a custom rom (Magio) with the custom kernel built-in.
To debloat, check my post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2568061
Say thanks if this helps!!!

You both deserve a thanks, I didn't see that button haha.
Okay so turning S-OFF, I can only assume doing so will also practically roll out a red carpet to hacks and viruses, and that unrevoked forever app seems to make it easy to turn it off, but instructions are vague at turning it back on.
Just out of curiosity, is there a wiki for general android hacking and terminology?
And i will try your custom romcleaner file, it sounds promising since you recommended it to someone with a HTC One Mini
You guys are great, thanks for being so helpful

I assume you are rooted? If so, I can give you a step by step guide to s-off, back to s-on etc - it's easy to do, I've just taken out all the tech talk etc....
You won't become open to hacks, viruses - quite the opposite in fact, as you will be able to install adware and malware blockers etc.
PM me if you want to try....
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Yeah dude i rooted it and its got superuser 1.0.2.8 installed
Perhaps later, its 11PM and im on painkillers for an ear infection so its not the prime time to be messing with my phone
Is there anything wrong with using moonshine/rumrunners/unrevoked
they seem fairly straight forward methods

I'm not keen on that method - the binary involved, revone, is 400kb, rumrunners download is 25MB.... Personally I'm not keen on "wizards" doing things you can't control.... Plus, you never learn if everything is automated... Hehe! Either way, feel free to give me a shout if you want advice or help.... Take it easy....
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I PM'd you nelvinchi,
Not sure if you would rather post instructions here or PM them to me, thanks in advanced!

nelvinchi said:
I assume you are rooted? If so, I can give you a step by step guide to s-off, back to s-on etc - it's easy to do, I've just taken out all the tech talk etc....
You won't become open to hacks, viruses - quite the opposite in fact, as you will be able to install adware and malware blockers etc.
PM me if you want to try....
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Hello nelvinchi,
Could you possible put the instructions here, I too would like to De-Bloat using Titanium Backup but current file system is protected and removed apps re-appear on a restart
Kind Regards

Sirius-C said:
Hello nelvinchi,
Could you possible put the instructions here, I too would like to De-Bloat using Titanium Backup but current file system is protected and removed apps re-appear on a restart
Kind Regards
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Cancel that... I followed the instructions here: http://qbking77.com/development/how-to-gain-s-off-on-the-htc-one-with-revone/
although i did get an "error code 2" after inputting "./revone -P" , i just carried on with the reboot then the next command "./revone -s 0 -u"and another reboot and it still worked successfully

Sirius-C said:
Hello nelvinchi,
Could you possible put the instructions here, I too would like to De-Bloat using Titanium Backup but current file system is protected and removed apps re-appear on a restart
Kind Regards
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https://www.dropbox.com/l/gILqxNwS4k4kjYF86mkT5d

Many thanks
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