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what to do when update comes out if rooted

after reading the forums im getting different answers as a whole. I have a rooted tb and im running the blackhole rom... i should probably not check for or accept any updates for my tb right? because 1. it could unroot 2. it could brick it 3. it could just mess it up? are any of these possible or correct. thanks

I would not accept or check until the Devs have said it is ok if you want to stay rooted.

Most roms on rooted phones will not accept the update even if it shows up. It will tryto install but most likely fail because the signatures dont dont match...
you will be fine.
when it comes out the devs will have a rooted version..

You most likely will be running the update well before it's OTAed.

ddgarcia05 said:
You most likely will be running the update well before it's OTAed.
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+1 gingerbread is a good example of this.
And if you tried to flash a stock ota update while rooted, you will lose root.

Just wait for a dev to post rooted version then just flash in hboot.
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You don't need to worry about it. The new das bamf rom will look like th enew update anyway (actauly probably better) so just enjoy that for a little bit until the devs come out with a fix

Isn't an OTA usually an entire RUU? New hboot, new radios, new ROM? Or at least new radios and ROM. I think you could lose your S-on, couldn't you?

Ok, Forgive my terminology... Graphics guy here.. If we are rooted and S-Off and running the stock rom. How to we update to the new OTA to fix the random reboots etc and stay rooted? Do the devs release a special version after Verizon starts releasing it?

[Q] Anything we need to do before the update rolls out?

My phone's currently rooted (running CM7 if that matters). Since the OTA update for Sprint is supposed to start rolling out this Monday, is there anything I need to do in order to receive the update?
Will I need to unroot?
Is there some manual way of checking for the update on custom ROMs?

infernosoft said:
My phone's currently rooted (running CM7 if that matters). Since the OTA update for Sprint is supposed to start rolling out this Monday, is there anything I need to do in order to receive the update?
Will I need to unroot?
Is there some manual way of checking for the update on custom ROMs?
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I have raised this question on two threads. I used Mikeyinid's rom for awhile and now have Oxygen rom and I have asked in both threads what would be done. People have told me that an update.zip would be released or the rom itself would be upgraded. Just keep your eye on your respective rom's thread and the developer should get everyone taken care of. As soon as the first member of this site gets the OTA, you know it will be posted and then applied to all the roms/kernels lol. We wont have to do anything but reboot to recovery and flash knowing these guys. I give it a few hours after it starts rolling out before they have it locked in lol
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That actually makes a lot of sense! Thanks for the answer!

Honestly most of the fixes are gonna be in the radio. Personally I don't even care about the 2.3.5 stuff or whatever else is included. I just want to flash the new radio the second its available and I will happily wait for ROMs to the be updated from that point on

yea, all i care about is the radio too....GB reminds me if vista, everytime they fix a problem, it changes...2.3 2.3.2 2.3.3 2.3.4 ..... 2.3.5? just fix my radio and send me 4.0 !
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OTA Gingerbread update if rooted

Hey guys, any clarification to whether I can have the official Verizon update pushed to my phone if rooted?
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Runn3rLogic said:
Hey guys, any clarification to whether I can have the official Verizon update pushed to my phone if rooted?
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You can try, depending on your ROM, but I seriously doubt anything you want to happen will come out of that. You might be stuck in a boot loop, it could brick it, it could just screw up all kinds of stuff. VERY bad idea in general. My advice:
Be patient.

im still running HTC Mecha.. I just used Revolutionary to root.. and still have everything running good on my stock ROM.

Runn3rLogic said:
im still running HTC Mecha.. I just used Revolutionary to root.. and still have everything running good on my stock ROM.
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Mecha is the HTC codename for the device, much like the EVO 4G is known as the Supersonic and the Incredible S/Incredible2 as the Vivo/Vivow, respectively.

just be patient. Usually a workable, root version will be released shortly before or after the OTA goes live. I would not except an OTA on a rooted phone. just keep an eye out on XDA.

Since you're rooted and stock the best thing to do is to wait until they release a version of it so you can install it via recovery like already mentioned. If you accept an OTA update while rooted bad things will most likely occur.

You will not he able to install an ota if your rooted. This is due to the custom recovery. When the update checks the recovery, it will fail.
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update

FYI...maybe this will help some of us:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...1-84-531-2-brings-bug-fixes-and-improvements/

First time I've ever seen a prerequisite for an ota say " device must not be rooted"
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better late than never
Good News. The problem is, I see no Skype call quality fix and multitasking issue fixed. Patiently waiting CM9...xconny's team hardwork product

Anyone know how we can install this update via zip in recovery. I am new to rooting without directly installing CM, so not sure how to update and keep stock Sense.

sharkoparko said:
Good News. The problem is, I see no Skype call quality fix and multitasking issue fixed. Patiently waiting CM9...xconny's team hardwork product
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here's some hope they'll fix those under the table (skype issue might be related to wifi fix). CM9 or not, multitasking problem needs kernel tweaking.

Hopefully this will also solve some of the data connection issues.
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Looks like this is a Europe T-Mobile update only

WCCobra said:
Looks like this is a Europe T-Mobile update only
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No, it's for T-Mo US:
http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4262
http://www.tmonews.com/2012/05/htc-...l-improve-software-stability-begins-tomorrow/

WCCobra said:
Looks like this is a Europe T-Mobile update only
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Look at the pic its the grey one s is that even available in eu
sent from a guy living in a van down by the river

Will root really block this ota?
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• Resolves signal fluctuation.
That's the big point right there.
Once its released, we should be able to have the update baked into a custom rom and made available to root users..right?

This might be a bit of a noob question here but this update is pushed out to carriers by HTC correct? So in theory, these fixes (mainly signal fluctuation is what im worried about at the moment) will eventually get pushed out by all carriers that have this phone?
Im on Telus in Canada and still within the 14 day return period of getting a new phone until next tuesday and so far the phone is fantastic except that the signal quality is absolutely terrible which makes it pretty unusable as a phone. On a sunny day outside where i would have gotten 5 bars with my Desire, i am either getting absolutely nothing (Emergency mode/0dbm) or at best one bar (-107 dbm). I really want to keep this phone, but if a fix doesn't come before next week i might have to ditch it and get a Galaxy Nexus or something else, which i would rather not do.

It looks like they just changed the memo to June 4th now.

"Improvements to camera stability"
What could this be? Hope it helps camera focus in low light.

jriv said:
Look at the pic its the grey one s is that even available in eu
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Both colours are available in EU
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eminembdg said:
Will root really block this ota?
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Would you expect it NOT to? Rooted phones not updating isn't that uncommon. Simply nandroid your current ROM (make a backup of it too), and flash a stock nandroid to get back to your original state, and it'll most likely update just fine.....whenever the update comes out, that is.

nickmv said:
Would you expect it NOT to? Rooted phones not updating isn't that uncommon. Simply nandroid your current ROM (make a backup of it too), and flash a stock nandroid to get back to your original state, and it'll most likely update just fine.....whenever the update comes out, that is.
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From what I read, you'll need to reflash the stock recovery, relock the bootloader and flash an RUU to remove the tampered and unlocked so the OTA will work. I'm hoping someone will get the OTA and make a zip we can flash on top of the current stock to get the fixes...

el_smurfo said:
From what I read, you'll need to reflash the stock recovery, relock the bootloader and flash an RUU to remove the tampered and unlocked so the OTA will work. I'm hoping someone will get the OTA and make a zip we can flash on top of the current stock to get the fixes...
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Agreed, but the issue at hand is whether or not it will flash a new kernel. As of now, i don't believe we have a way to flash a kernel, but I could be completely wrong.
Sure would be nice of HTC to release the source code.....those assholes

I'm new to htc rooting, but not to rooting at all. Other phones I had rooting wouldn't stop an ota. Tho custom recovery would most likely
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Yea so they have delayed it til the fourth of June lol
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[Q] stock rom

Hi, I really need some help cause i am new in this (i owned htc desire g7 bravo),
I have bought htc one x at&t mobile. Hopefully by the next week it would be here. I was thinking to root it so I can delete all at&t crap apps. After some search I found out that at&t models always get the updates with a big delay time. So I want to find a stock rom (clean from branded carrier apps). I forgot to mention I live in Greece.
Most important for me is:
1)Greek language and keyboard
2)upgrades “on air”
3)stable and fast (stock sounds perfect)
4)of course choosing north American type means I wand better battery life so it’s going without saying that battery life is important
Any suggestions? I look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237 but no luck. Saying at&t on stock roms means there are at&t apps right?? Thanks a lot in advance!

ps.christos said:
Hi, I really need some help cause i am new in this (i owned htc desire g7 bravo),
I have bought htc one x at&t mobile. Hopefully by the next week it would be here. I was thinking to root it so I can delete all at&t crap apps. After some search I found out that at&t models always get the updates with a big delay time. So I want to find a stock rom (clean from branded carrier apps). I forgot to mention I live in Greece.
Most important for me is:
1)Greek language and keyboard
2)upgrades “on air”
3)stable and fast (stock sounds perfect)
4)of course choosing north American type means I wand better battery life so it’s going without saying that battery life is important
Any suggestions? I look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237 but no luck. Saying at&t on stock roms means there are at&t apps right?? Thanks a lot in advance!
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A rooted stock rom is probably your best bet. Custom roms usually remove the OTA function for obvious reasons. Once rooted, the bloatware is easy to remove.
I think you have to load the Greek keyboard separately but I don't know. I think there is one rom with all the languages turned on but it's not stock.

iElvis said:
A rooted stock rom is probably your best bet. Custom roms usually remove the OTA function for obvious reasons. Once rooted, the bloatware is easy to remove.
I think you have to load the Greek keyboard separately but I don't know. I think there is one rom with all the languages turned on but it's not stock.
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So if i get it right i should look "Stock Rooted (Odexed/De-Odexed)"?? (not the "CLOSED" it is different)!
Anything on "Stock Rooted (Odexed/De-Odexed)" says telstra at&t and rogers does not suit me right?
Any other has ota updates and don't mess with bootloader or anything else??They are just rooted nad stock right?

ps.christos said:
So if i get it right i should look "Stock Rooted (Odexed/De-Odexed)"?? (not the "CLOSED" it is different)!
Anything on "Stock Rooted (Odexed/De-Odexed)" says telstra at&t and rogers does not suit me right?
Any other has ota updates and don't mess with bootloader or anything else??They are just rooted nad stock right?
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The stock rooted roms should work on any One XL--they are usually debranded. But they are not all exactly the same--I would review the OP to be sure.

Only downside of stock rooted... You take the att ota, you break root access!!
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InflatedTitan said:
Only downside of stock rooted... You take the att ota, you break root access!!
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That's not good! Any way to avoid that? I just rooted 2 days ago!
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ToxicWaste said:
That's not good! Any way to avoid that?
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Yes. Don't take the OTA.
Be patient and wait a few days for the devs to update their roms.
It's simply the downside of being rooted and rommed.

iElvis said:
Yes. Don't take the OTA.
Be patient and wait a few days for the devs to update their roms.
It's simply the downside of being rooted and rommed.
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Yes.
On any Android device if you are rooted, don't update by OTA.
Its really that simple. How many times does this need to be said?
At a minimum, you will lose root. At the worst, you will not be able to root again (depending on what was changed in the OTA) or get stuck in a bootloop (or otherwise not be able to boot).

iElvis said:
Yes. Don't take the OTA.
Be patient and wait a few days for the devs to update their roms.
It's simply the downside of being rooted and rommed.
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I was simply asking since I'm STOCK rooted, I haven't loaded a different Rom at all as I'd like to explore the phone stock rooted first. I should've mentioned I was stock rooted.
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ToxicWaste said:
I was simply asking since I'm STOCK rooted, I haven't loaded a different Rom at all as I'd like to explore the phone stock rooted first. I should've mentioned I was stock rooted.
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Definitely understandable bro. I recommend everyone to enjoy that honeymoon period of a new phone first, then customize the hell out of it. Nothing wrong with your doing, but like others have said don't take an update OTA if your stock. Just pop back in when you ready to really see what this phone is capable of
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ToxicWaste said:
I was simply asking since I'm STOCK rooted, I haven't loaded a different Rom at all as I'd like to explore the phone stock rooted first. I should've mentioned I was stock rooted.
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Even if you are on the stock ROM and rooted, you should not ever ever ever install an OTA, for the reasons I've stated in post 8 above.
If you want to install a new firmware version, they almost always get posted in Development in pre-rooted, but otherwise stock form, very soon after the OTA starts rolling out (sometimes even before the OTA, in case of a leak). Those are safe to install.

Thanks for the the explanations, guys.
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I've taken OTAs on my stock rooted Nexus 7 without any problems. But Nexus devices are a special case--I would never recommend trying it on anything else.

iElvis said:
I've taken OTAs on my stock rooted Nexus 7 without any problems. But Nexus devices are a special case--I would never recommend trying it on anything else.
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Sure, there are exceptions. Apps like OTA Rootkeeper sometimes work too (but don't think it ever has on the One X) to keep root after an OTA.
I was giving the "short story" rule for n00bs to go by. The "long story" is not to accept an OTA unless you have researched in advance that it will work (such as from other users here); or you intend to be the guinea pig and live the with the consequences, whatever they may be.
Too many folks here jumped on the 2.20 OTA when it first rolled out, then came on here crying "Ohhh sh1t I lost root, and its not rootable".
"Don't ever OTA on a rooted device" is a good rule to live by, unless you reearch on here and learn otherwise. On the huge majority of devices, the OTA will not even install on a rooted device, anyway. And rooted versions of the latest firmwares always get posted here. So there is really no reason to gamble and take the OTA.

redpoint73 said:
Even if you are on the stock ROM and rooted, you should not ever ever ever install an OTA, for the reasons I've stated in post 8 above.
If you want to install a new firmware version, they almost always get posted in Development in pre-rooted, but otherwise stock form, very soon after the OTA starts rolling out (sometimes even before the OTA, in case of a leak). Those are safe to install.
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I don't quite understand, I mean the 2.20 firmware is rootable now, is this still unrootable even there's a way to root it?
And also I'm expecting the stock jelly bean rom which is said to be rolling out this month, and I don't care losing root for couple of weeks, do I have to do anything before I install the OTA? Or should I just install the RUU instead?
Sent from my Nexus 7

marsyeti said:
I don't quite understand, I mean the 2.20 firmware is rootable now, is this still unrootable even there's a way to root it?
And also I'm expecting the stock jelly bean rom which is said to be rolling out this month, and I don't care losing root for couple of weeks, do I have to do anything before I install the OTA? Or should I just install the RUU instead?
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What happened was that people who took the OTA lost root, and it was months before someone found an exploit. That may happen again with JB if you take it.
It might take the devs a few days to a week to update their roms. Just be patient.
If you absolutely can't wait, you should be stock before taking an OTA.

marsyeti said:
And also I'm expecting the stock jelly bean rom which is said to be rolling out this month, and I don't care losing root for couple of weeks, do I have to do anything before I install the OTA? Or should I just install the RUU instead?
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Neither. As I already said, it will show up in a pre-rooted, TWRP flashable, but otherwise stock ROM in the Development subforum. It usually takes about a day before a dev gets ahold of the OTA file, and posts a pre-rooted version of it. Just flash that. And the way the OTAs roll out, you'll probably see the pre-rooted version on XDA before you even get the OTA notification.
You should just erase from your brain the concept of accepting the OTA.

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Neither. As I already said, it will show up in a pre-rooted, TWRP flashable, but otherwise stock ROM in the Development subforum. It usually takes about a day before a dev gets ahold of the OTA file, and posts a pre-rooted version of it. Just flash that. And the way the OTAs roll out, you'll probably see the pre-rooted version on XDA before you even get the OTA notification.
You should just erase from your brain the concept of accepting the OTA.
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But I don't think there's a pre rooted ROM for HOXL here, or I can't find one, anyway if it comes out that'll be great I'll definitely flash that
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marsyeti said:
But I don't think there's a pre rooted ROM for HOXL here, or I can't find one, anyway if it comes out that'll be great I'll definitely flash that
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There's nothing for JB because it hasn't been released yet. There are rooted versions of many of the other firmware versions in the development section; just look in the compilation thread at the top, which has them all listed.

So,i was lucky i started it before i get the phone on hands! I really thought that at&t takes a lot of time to give ota but it is not so long time!(max a month i think) I think JB hasn't pop up not even for htc(no-carrier branded)phones,always talking about s4 version or 4g as it is called. All stock rooted roms i check seemed good but most of times it was still branded. So to sum up i think i will stay with the stock rom till jb pops up,then i will root the phone deleting all at&t apps...!(only way i know to delete rom's apps is with at least root acces right is there any other?)
I think it is needed to be said againe that even if you have stock rom and ota pops up you dont't do the update but you get the update from xda cause stock root rom+ota can cause problems!
Silly question (i think) unrooting and then ota is as dengarous as stock root rom and ota????(it sounds ok and you avoid re-installing your apps)
All i need (FOR NOW OF COURSE) is a clear rom and get the original "hTC_bootup_one" and "hTC_downanimation" zip files to the right place to avoid at&t meeting every time i go to menu and every time i power my up phone!