OTA Gingerbread update if rooted - Thunderbolt General

Hey guys, any clarification to whether I can have the official Verizon update pushed to my phone if rooted?
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Runn3rLogic said:
Hey guys, any clarification to whether I can have the official Verizon update pushed to my phone if rooted?
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You can try, depending on your ROM, but I seriously doubt anything you want to happen will come out of that. You might be stuck in a boot loop, it could brick it, it could just screw up all kinds of stuff. VERY bad idea in general. My advice:
Be patient.

im still running HTC Mecha.. I just used Revolutionary to root.. and still have everything running good on my stock ROM.

Runn3rLogic said:
im still running HTC Mecha.. I just used Revolutionary to root.. and still have everything running good on my stock ROM.
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Mecha is the HTC codename for the device, much like the EVO 4G is known as the Supersonic and the Incredible S/Incredible2 as the Vivo/Vivow, respectively.

just be patient. Usually a workable, root version will be released shortly before or after the OTA goes live. I would not except an OTA on a rooted phone. just keep an eye out on XDA.

Since you're rooted and stock the best thing to do is to wait until they release a version of it so you can install it via recovery like already mentioned. If you accept an OTA update while rooted bad things will most likely occur.

You will not he able to install an ota if your rooted. This is due to the custom recovery. When the update checks the recovery, it will fail.
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[Q] Reverting Back to MR1

I have a TB I need to return that has the MR2 update on it and I'm not rooted, how do I revert back to the 1st update or can that be done. I do not wont to lose my warranty on my phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13150834&postcount=31
How do you have MR2 (not an official SIGNED update) on you non-rooted phone?
If you didn't root and get s-off then the phone shouldn't let you flash any unofficial updates?
Did you just get the OTA update, or has your phone been rooted and s+off'd but you flashed one of the RUU's that's not rooted?
If you never rooted or gained s-off then your phone is still in its original form and you don't need to undo any updates. Only need to return to stock if you're rooted with s-off which it sounds like you did not do?
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You can install the MR2 full update without being rooted. I had it on my phone also before i rooted it.
capflya said:
How do you have MR2 (not an official SIGNED update) on you non-rooted phone?
If you didn't root and get s-off then the phone shouldn't let you flash any unofficial updates?
Did you just get the OTA update, or has your phone been rooted and s+off'd but you flashed one of the RUU's that's not rooted?
If you never rooted or gained s-off then your phone is still in its original form and you don't need to undo any updates. Only need to return to stock if you're rooted with s-off which it sounds like you did not do?
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Nope. The original MR2 leak was for unrooted phones and it was signed.
Thanks, Robertus
Leaked MR2 was signed.
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I guess you learn something new every day
I thought it wasn't signed for some reason... My bad...
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Do u think Verizon will even notice that it is on there because some of these instructions look way to complicated to get it back to the 1st update. The other phone I had shipped wont be here till July 6th, do anyone think the new update will be out then so I can put it on the old phone then ship it back?
There may be an update on the sixth since that is when the Hotspot promo ends. It usually required a software push to disable it. Don't bet on it though.
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what to do when update comes out if rooted

after reading the forums im getting different answers as a whole. I have a rooted tb and im running the blackhole rom... i should probably not check for or accept any updates for my tb right? because 1. it could unroot 2. it could brick it 3. it could just mess it up? are any of these possible or correct. thanks
I would not accept or check until the Devs have said it is ok if you want to stay rooted.
Most roms on rooted phones will not accept the update even if it shows up. It will tryto install but most likely fail because the signatures dont dont match...
you will be fine.
when it comes out the devs will have a rooted version..
You most likely will be running the update well before it's OTAed.
ddgarcia05 said:
You most likely will be running the update well before it's OTAed.
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+1 gingerbread is a good example of this.
And if you tried to flash a stock ota update while rooted, you will lose root.
Just wait for a dev to post rooted version then just flash in hboot.
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You don't need to worry about it. The new das bamf rom will look like th enew update anyway (actauly probably better) so just enjoy that for a little bit until the devs come out with a fix
Isn't an OTA usually an entire RUU? New hboot, new radios, new ROM? Or at least new radios and ROM. I think you could lose your S-on, couldn't you?
Ok, Forgive my terminology... Graphics guy here.. If we are rooted and S-Off and running the stock rom. How to we update to the new OTA to fix the random reboots etc and stay rooted? Do the devs release a special version after Verizon starts releasing it?

[Q] Anything we need to do before the update rolls out?

My phone's currently rooted (running CM7 if that matters). Since the OTA update for Sprint is supposed to start rolling out this Monday, is there anything I need to do in order to receive the update?
Will I need to unroot?
Is there some manual way of checking for the update on custom ROMs?
infernosoft said:
My phone's currently rooted (running CM7 if that matters). Since the OTA update for Sprint is supposed to start rolling out this Monday, is there anything I need to do in order to receive the update?
Will I need to unroot?
Is there some manual way of checking for the update on custom ROMs?
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I have raised this question on two threads. I used Mikeyinid's rom for awhile and now have Oxygen rom and I have asked in both threads what would be done. People have told me that an update.zip would be released or the rom itself would be upgraded. Just keep your eye on your respective rom's thread and the developer should get everyone taken care of. As soon as the first member of this site gets the OTA, you know it will be posted and then applied to all the roms/kernels lol. We wont have to do anything but reboot to recovery and flash knowing these guys. I give it a few hours after it starts rolling out before they have it locked in lol
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That actually makes a lot of sense! Thanks for the answer!
Honestly most of the fixes are gonna be in the radio. Personally I don't even care about the 2.3.5 stuff or whatever else is included. I just want to flash the new radio the second its available and I will happily wait for ROMs to the be updated from that point on
yea, all i care about is the radio too....GB reminds me if vista, everytime they fix a problem, it changes...2.3 2.3.2 2.3.3 2.3.4 ..... 2.3.5? just fix my radio and send me 4.0 !
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4g update

I know the evolution 4g was affected by the gb update...is this new update gonna affect the root on the nexus s 4g?
Decked out Nexus S 4g!!
**evo ..damn auto correct lol
Decked out Nexus S 4g!!
When will you release your ROM
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dblkspecial said:
I know the evolution 4g was affected by the gb update...is this new update gonna affect the root on the nexus s 4g?
Decked out Nexus S 4g!!
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It will most likely unroot you, but not remove the ability to regain root. The Nexus does not rely on a security hole to gain root. If they were to lock the bootloader on a Nexus, I'm pretty sure they'd have a riot on their hands.
Maximilian Mary said:
It will most likely unroot you, but not remove the ability to regain root. The Nexus does not rely on a security hole to gain root. If they were to lock the bootloader on a Nexus, I'm pretty sure they'd have a riot on their hands.
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The bootloader is locked XD
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So I shouldn't update huh lol. I got rid of my evo cuz it wasn't rootable lol
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If your rooted and get notified to update and you take it its gonna fail. Have to have to stock recovery to update.
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I was considering updating but not if I'm gonna lose my root and have to wait God knows how long like my wife who has the evo
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You wont have to wait. Rooting will be the same.you don't have the evo
dblkspecial said:
I was considering updating but not if I'm gonna lose my root and have to wait God knows how long like my wife who has the evo
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This is my first time doing an update, so this would be new to me. Forgive me for such a dumb question, but I know root can be regain. What about bootloader, can it still be unlocked? And how about flashing roms, kernels and what not?
That's what I'm worried about. I wanna update but I also wanna know 100% if I can easily root after
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Well Mikey said rooting will be the same, but I'm just worried about flashing roms and kernels. Would that be any difference? Iduno....
Guys... the Evo can't be rooted because it has a SIGNED boot loader... not only because it is locked. The Nexus comes shipped with a locked boot loader, but you can unlock it easily. This update will be the same. Devs should be able to rip apart the update and make a flashable zip for the radio, which will be the biggest change.
^and i CANNOT wait for that! hopefully, and im sure i wont have to hope too hard, that we can get the other goodies that come with the OTA.
Someone already got the new GRJ90
If I want to get the update, should I wait until a custom ROM based on GRJ90 comes out or unroot my phone and install GRJ22 from Sprint back on my phone?
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When will you release your ROM
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LOL, Will you be using MathKid's kernel?
yangers said:
If I want to get the update, should I wait until a custom ROM based on GRJ90 comes out or unroot my phone and install GRJ22 from Sprint back on my phone?
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I myself decided to lock/unroot my phone to its factory state just to be safe. I really want this OTA and I assume that EVERY stock NS4G will get the notification and update with no issue.
yangers said:
If I want to get the update, should I wait until a custom ROM based on GRJ90 comes out or unroot my phone and install GRJ22 from Sprint back on my phone?
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I usually just wait for the developers to make a flash zip or incorporate into their rom. It usually doesn't take them very long after the update comes out. They do a pretty amazing job of getting it out to everyone.
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unomedmen1 said:
I myself decided to lock/unroot my phone to its factory state just to be safe. I really want this OTA and I assume that EVERY stock NS4G will get the notification and update with no issue.
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I'm pretty sure that you made a mistake unrooting. The chances of you being in the 1st day release batch is very slim. The updated rom will probably be on xda before you actually get it pushed to your phone
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p-slim said:
I'm pretty sure that you made a mistake unrooting. The chances of you being in the 1st day release batch is very slim. The updated rom will probably be on xda before you actually get it pushed to your phone
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True. I wouldnt call it mistake tho LOL. If that happens then I will just root again and go from there. I guess you can say that I just want to BE SURE the update will install you know.

To root or not to root!?

So... I used to be rooted until my old tbolts 4g data bit the dust and I had to get a replacement. I have my new tbolt in my hand as we speak but I'm faces with a dilema. Should I root or wait for stock ics Rom to he released and live with that. I've been waiting a long time for this update as I have had the tbolt for almost 2 years now. What is your guys' opinion on this. I know it would be nice to root and debloat the thing as my battery drains so quickly these days , but maybe with the promise of ics we will see improvements? Also how long before a custom Rom is released when the ota for ics hits our phones?
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I'm not sure what future updates have to do with unlocking and rooting your phone. It's such an easy procedure and it helps immensely when debloating and saving battery life.
*Madmoose* said:
I'm not sure what future updates have to do with unlocking and rooting your phone. It's such an easy procedure and it helps immensely when debloating and saving battery life.
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Thanks for the response! I just know if I root I won't be able to install the ota update.... Am I wrong?
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OTA's are just patches to take you to the next level. RUU's are released at the same time (speaking specifically about ICS here). With S-Off you can do whatever you want as far as installing things. Honestly it's pretty pointless to not S-Off if it's available to your device.
ROOT NOW - and wait for ICS! Seriously, as soon as ICS comes out it will be rooted and posted here. Then you can flash that on top of what you have.
Will the ruu install radios and changes to hboot (if there are changes to hboot)?
RUU's are EVERYTHING. OTA's are just the parts that were updated from the last version. Usually OTA's end up causing little issues here and there. The RUU's do a full install on the phone.
I suppose nobody can knownif it will be possible to go back from rooted ics ruu to rooted gb or even if it will be possible to root s on phones once ics is installed?
gcodori said:
ROOT NOW - and wait for ICS! Seriously, as soon as ICS comes out it will be rooted and posted here. Then you can flash that on top of what you have.
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+1 The devs here would make a stock version that's an exact replica of it anyway.
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recDNA said:
I suppose nobody can knownif it will be possible to go back from rooted ics ruu to rooted gb or even if it will be possible to root s on phones once ics is installed?
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If you are S-Off you can go in any direction you want to. S-On could be a problem if they patch our S-Off exploit (which i strongly doubt, but a possibility nonetheless) This is why it's pointless to have a phone without S-Off if it's available.

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