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I want to buy this device but it is overpriced here in the uk and t mobile in the usa have it a affordable price. I checked the bands and most uk phones have: 900, 1900 and 2100 for 3g
This one has : 1700 and 2100 for 3g
This concerns me a lot. Can I flash a radio from the original optimistic 2x or something to make it work in the uk? Do you think it will work on 3g out of the box? Some help please.
As you've noted T-Mobile uses non standard frequencies in the states. So, out of the box it's incompatible. As far as flashing an Optimus 2x radio, that appears to be a very bad idea due to file system differences.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I've read the answer is no.
According to this:
http://www.wireless.att.com/travelguide/coverage/coverage_details.jsp?CIDL=1305&MNC=CING
uk carriers use 2100 primarily and according to gsmarena the bands this phone supports are:
1700 and 2100 for 3g
Wouldn't it still work out of the box even if it supports 2100 band?
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Also according to this:
http://www.mobileworldlive.com/maps...ma/gb/17016/comb/&layer_id=951&lstCountry=275
Most uk networks use 2100 band as suggested by at&t . The 1700 band is used by t mo for 4g network according to engadget. Any change of opinion now?
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"Band I" is 2100 MHz, which is supported by the G2x and is used all over Europe and Asia.
and according to this http://www.phonearena.com/phones/T-Mobile-G2x_id5272
the G2X supports 2100 UMTS (3G) or am I missing something?
The G2x supports 850/900/1800/1900 MHz for 2G/GPRS only, and supports 3G/4G UMTS/HSPA+ bands I (2100) and IV (1700). The G2x does not support AT&T’s 3G bands.
G2X spec sheet
http://stadium.weblogsinc.com/engadget/files/T-Mobile_G2x_with_Google_FactSheet_FINAL.pdf
Yes it should work, I'm currently in Europe and my g2x connects to 3G, but of course there is no 4G...I'll be in the UK in a few days in fact
rashad1 said:
Yes it should work, I'm currently in Europe and my g2x connects to 3G, but of course there is no 4G...I'll be in the UK in a few days in fact
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Thanks for confirming
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Thanks to all who corrected me...I was under the impression most of Europe used the same 3G bands as AT&T do here. Stupid US centric assumption...I need to get out more....and keep my mouth shut when I'm not absolutely sure!
Anyway, sorry for my small contribution to internet misinformation...
bdkinney said:
Thanks to all who corrected me...I was under the impression most of Europe used the same 3G bands as AT&T do here. Stupid US centric assumption...I need to get out more....and keep my mouth shut when I'm not absolutely sure!
Anyway, sorry for my small contribution to internet misinformation...
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Both at&t and tmobile phones would be able to get 3g signals outside of the states. I had no problem using my old iphone 3g in Hong Kong,Beijing nor my tmobile blackberry 9700 in Italy.
jdaclutch said:
Both at&t and tmobile phones would be able to get 3g signals outside of the states. I had no problem using my old iphone 3g in Hong Kong,Beijing nor my tmobile blackberry 9700 in Italy.
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Yeah...now that's not quite right. Here's the deal:
Most of the world uses 2100 MHz 3G bidirectionally (for both sending and receiving data). This includes England, China, and Hong Kong.
In the U.S. AT&T uses Both 850 & 1900 MHz (depending on the coverage area) bidirectionally. Not compatible with "world standards". The reason you could use you iphone in China is because it has tri-band 3G. Not all AT&T phones support the 2100 MHz band.
T-Mobile uses 1700 MHz for uploads and 2100 MHz for downloading. However, all their current phones have the ability to use the 2100 MHz band bidirectionally when operating overseas.
So to sum it up T-Mobile phones will do 3G overseas, some AT&T Phones will work overseas, but most phones from overseas won't do 3G here.
I hope that makes things a bit more clear; and I apologize again for confusing T-mobile with AT&T in my earlier post.
So i just purchased from amazon and it says its the international version with no warranty will i have any problems running that on t-mobiles 3G? It says its unlocked and will it be any different from the USA version?
U better make sure they running the same 3g bands or u stuck with edge eww
Well on the site it said its running the same but thats why i want somebody to help me with this i can still cancel my order helpp =[
anybody? can help?
if it's the EU version it'll work. it seems all the sensations have tmous's AWS bands
xSunny said:
So i just purchased from amazon and it says its the international version with no warranty will i have any problems running that on t-mobiles 3G? It says its unlocked and will it be any different from the USA version?
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The supported cellular bands should be listed somewhere in the specs. (link?) Should look something like this.
Network technology:
GSM:
850, 900, 1800, 1900
UMTS:
900, 1700/2100, 2100
If you do not see the 1700/2100 bands in the specs., you will not get t-mobile's 4g data speeds. Only edge.
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The supported cellular bands should be listed somewhere in the specs. (link?) Should look something like this.
Network technology:
GSM:
850, 900, 1800, 1900
UMTS:
900, 1700/2100, 2100
If you do not see the 1700/2100 bands in the specs., you will not get t-mobile's 4g data speeds. Only edge.
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It'll either say that or AWS. I think the EU boxes say AWS
Network
HSPA/WCDMA:
Europe/Asia/T-Mobile US: 900/AWS/2100 MHz Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
That is from Euro version specs...
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I have that phone and I'm getting at least 3g speeds. I have no idea how to check to see whether I get 4g. If anyone can guide me, I can post my results.
My speeds are not that good, but are the same as my old HTC HD2.
Its about 3Mbps/1Mbps.
4G would be either if your phone said 4G (US) or H+ (EU)
See the guy said for t-mobile its running 1700/2100 i know t-mobile uses 2100 idk if the 1900 is under edge and he just didnt list it cuz he only listed 3g/4g..
I was wondering this same exact thing! I'm also considering buying it from Amazon. I want to buy the international version instead of the Tmous version because hopefully Tmous will allow me to use my $10 web2go plan with the international sensation since my IMEI isn't tracked by Tmous. But at the same time I want to know if the international version with have the 1700/2100 Tmous 4G bands.
On the the HTC HD2, only the Tmous version had the 1700/2100 band whereas the International HD2 had 850/1900 bands. Just want to know if the Sensation is gonna be the same way.
Please update when your phone arrives.
I guess the International Version Sensation DOES HAVE the 1700(AWS)/2100 band. Here is a video of the unboxing of the international version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxqA4hNe42A
Now the only question remains is if it'll be able to use the $10 web2go plan
Also check out this review, it's confirmed international version works with Tmous 4G: http://pocketnow.com/android/htc-sensation-review
"CALL QUALITY/NETWORK SPEED
We tested the HTC Sensation over T-Mobile, even though this variant of the Sensation was designed for Europe. Despite this, call quality was fantastic with no dropped calls. We also clocked some pretty healthy data speeds of, on average, 3Mbps down and 1.5Mbps up. In our best test we clocked 6.1Mbps down and 1.7Mbps up."
I am using the sensation on tmobile. It only says H for data. I am not sure if the software can support changing the display. The HTC hd2 I previously used was the tmo version, but I don't think that can support 4G. Is there any barrier that one can say they're on 4G? Like of your speed is above XMbps, then you're on 4G.
I got an international one today(black box). I got worried that I wouldnt get 4g (didnt have UK or USA english only asian countries) The box says:
HSPA/WCDMA (900/AWS/2100 MHz)
GSM/GPRS/Edge (850/900/1800/1900 MHz)
So these are the correct bands for TMO 4g correct? I see I get the H icon on the signal meter but when I did a speed test I got really low scores (could have been the area I was in at the time though) The place I bought it from said I could exchange it for a TMO branded one because I called them and said I didnt think it was compatible with tmo's 4g network. But before I go and exchange it I want to make sure if it doesn or doesnt have the TMO bands
graffixnyc said:
HSPA/WCDMA (900/AWS/2100 MHz)
GSM/GPRS/Edge (850/900/1800/1900 MHz)
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Bold part is all you need to worry about for tmous 3G/HSPA+
xnifex said:
Bold part is all you need to worry about for tmous 3G/HSPA+
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So then it's fine for Tmo's 4g.. Thank god.. lol I would hate to have this beast and only get 2G speeds.
graffixnyc said:
So then it's fine for Tmo's 4g.. Thank god.. lol I would hate to have this beast and only get 2G speeds.
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The H symbol is for HSPDA+ (3.5G). Make sure you see the 4G symbol to verify it does get 4G.
raysacr said:
The H symbol is for HSPDA+ (3.5G). Make sure you see the 4G symbol to verify it does get 4G.
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Tmo's "4G" network is only hspda+ at least as far as I know. I think the tmo version and the version I have just have different icons for when on the 4G network. Tmo's version says 4G and the Asian version shows the H
Hi,
I am a telstra customer from Australia. Telstra is rolling out its first handset on their new LTE network next week, the HTC Velocity (aka HTC Holiday or Vivid, i think).
The Telstra LTE network currently only runs on the 1800mhz frequency. Telstras 3G network runs on 850mhz australia wide and 2100 i think in built-up areas.
Short of ending my contract early or buying a Velocity outright (which you cant for another few months, according to telstra), I began a search for a mobile device that supports both 3G 850mhz UMTS and 4G 1800mhz LTE. This is a very hard combo to find.
Has anyone else had any luck finding a decent/flagship android phone from HTC or Samsung that supports both these frequencies? I do not care about 2G quadband compatability.
So far all I have come up with is the Samsung Galaxy S 2 LTE, but i cannot confirm this in fact has 850mhz UMTS.
I know this has been covered a million times but saying data will only be Edge/2g when doing this. I was looking at the GSM Unlocked Nexus and the specs are almost identical with the the one exception. Has anyone tired the MT4GS on ATT and confirmed it not working 3g+ Data??
Tech Specs For Galaxy Nexus GSM/HSPA+
NETWORK
GSM/EDGE/GPRS (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
3G (850, 1700, 1900, 2100 MHz)
HSPA+ 21
T-Mobile myTouch 4G Slide
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 1900 / 2100 / 1700
850 MHz is the missing 3G MHz, is that what ATT is using for 3G in the US because this shows using both 850 and 1900
Frequencies used on the AT&T Network
Frequency Protocol Class
850 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G
1900 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G
850 MHz UMTS/HSPA 3G
1900 MHz UMTS/HSPA 3G
700 MHz LTE 4G
If so is there any way I can find out what my area is MHz wise.
Thanks,
Randy
I'd say no either way. I've never seen a Tmobile phone compatible with AT&T 3G bands
I read on Phandroid that the unlocked Nexus did fine on HSPA+.
Hastily spouted for your befuddlement
The Galaxy Nexus they sell in the play store says its compatable with att and tmo and I checked the specs and MHz wise there the same except the 850MHz. Further checking I found a freq. map and it looks like in my area of TN its 1900MHz 3g for att. It was a semi educated guess on it working. Guess either need to find a friend that uses att or get a prepaid sim for a month.
The unlocked GNex GSM phone is "Pentaband", which means it can use the HSPA+ frequencies on AT&T, T-Mobile, and nearly every other GSM provider in the world. There are only a few phones with this capability.
Well it appears Samsung and Nokia are using the Pentaband theory. That must have been why I was reading of people getting the Note working on ATT.
Thanks
zcivicef said:
Well it appears Samsung and Nokia are using the Pentaband theory. That must have been why I was reading of people getting the Note working on ATT.
Thanks
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One good development is that T-Mobile is busy refarming some of their spectrum and that is giving people moving from AT&T that previously would only get EDGE data speeds access to HSPA+ now. For instance, AT&T iPhones can now get HSPA+ high speed data on T-Mobile in Atlanta and a few other metro areas due to the refarming. T-Mobile will be doing this in most areas in the coming year as part of their spectrum moving to accommodate LTE and make their service more usable to a larger number of devices.
Fuzi0719 said:
One good development is that T-Mobile is busy refarming some of their spectrum and that is giving people moving from AT&T that previously would only get EDGE data speeds access to HSPA+ now. For instance, AT&T iPhones can now get HSPA+ high speed data on T-Mobile in Atlanta and a few other metro areas due to the refarming. T-Mobile will be doing this in most areas in the coming year as part of their spectrum moving to accommodate LTE and make their service more usable to a larger number of devices.
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Will T-Mobile ever get LTE? Idk
Typed by ---- oh wait! I'm schizophrenic!
CoNsPiRiSiZe said:
Will T-Mobile ever get LTE? Idk
Typed by ---- oh wait! I'm schizophrenic!
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They should be getting it in a year or two.
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You will only get edge on AT&T. Same with any T-Mobile phone.
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You will only get edge on AT&T. Same with any T-Mobile phone.
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Im getting 4g with my sgs2 from tmous
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Im getting 4g with my sgs2 from tmous
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Have you ran a speed test on it?
What is the highest speed you get if you disable 4g on the US-version? Do you still get H+, only H, only #g or what?
Thanks
H+ I believe.
Thanks, would be great if someone could confirm by actually turning off 4g and see if they still get H+
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Thanks, would be great if someone could confirm by actually turning off 4g and see if they still get H+
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why would h+ be affected by your 4g setting?
Just a rumour I read. H+ is considered LTE on the US version. Hope it's wrong.
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Just a rumour I read. H+ is considered LTE on the US version. Hope it's wrong.
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No its not. HSPA+ is not considered LTE in any country. Some countries consider HSPA+ to be 4g, but that's not accurate. All LTE is 4g, not all 4G is LTE.
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No its not. HSPA+ is not considered LTE in any country. Some countries consider HSPA+ to be 4g, but that's not accurate. All LTE is 4g, not all 4G is LTE.
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Back when the iPhone 4S first came out, AT&T made the handset show "4G" when it was using HSPA+. this confused some users into thinking the 4S was an LTE device. I wonder if OP is referring to something like that?
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Back when the iPhone 4S first came out, AT&T made the handset show "4G" when it was using HSPA+. this confused some users into thinking the 4S was an LTE device. I wonder if OP is referring to something like that?
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Possibly. This is why I mentioned that some countries inaccurately referred to HSPA+ as 4G and that although all LTE is 4G, not all 4G is LTE. I want to be clear that 4G, LTE and HSPA+ are not synonymous. they are all different things.
Essentially:
2G = GPRS and (2.5G) Edge
3G = 3G, (3.5G) HSPA, HSPA+, DC-HSPA
4G = LTE, WiMax
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Possibly. This is why I mentioned that some countries inaccurately referred to HSPA+ as 4G and that although all LTE is 4G, not all 4G is LTE. I want to be clear that 4G, LTE and HSPA+ are not synonymous. they are all different things.
Essentially:
2G = GPRS and (2.5G) Edge
3G = 3G, (3.5G) HSPA, HSPA+, DC-HSPA
4G = LTE, WiMax
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AS OP my main concearn was that I would not get H+ from a US-version here in Norway (have imported, not recieved yet), and would be stuck with very low 3G-speeds. Now I have seen other in Norway reporting at least 6 mbps speeds, possibly more. I get around 12-13 on H+ with my old SGS2, and would hope Nexus 5 with LTE disabled would get me the same speeds. LTE is not very important for me.
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AS OP my main concearn was that I would not get H+ from a US-version here in Norway (have imported, not recieved yet), and would be stuck with very low 3G-speeds. Now I have seen other in Norway reporting at least 6 mbps speeds, possibly more. I get around 12-13 on H+ with my old SGS2, and would hope Nexus 5 with LTE disabled would get me the same speeds. LTE is not very important for me.
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Yes it has h+, when ever I'm in a non LTE area that's what it defaults to. Granted I'm in the USA on att and your in Norway so I'm not sure what there H bands are, look it up and reference the n5 specs to get your answer.
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AS OP my main concearn was that I would not get H+ from a US-version here in Norway (have imported, not recieved yet), and would be stuck with very low 3G-speeds. Now I have seen other in Norway reporting at least 6 mbps speeds, possibly more. I get around 12-13 on H+ with my old SGS2, and would hope Nexus 5 with LTE disabled would get me the same speeds. LTE is not very important for me.
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Yep, there are only 2 models of N5. D820 US and D821 RoW. The only difference is the LTE frequencies they can handle. H+ works on both models across the same frequencies.
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AS OP my main concearn was that I would not get H+ from a US-version here in Norway (have imported, not recieved yet), and would be stuck with very low 3G-speeds. Now I have seen other in Norway reporting at least 6 mbps speeds, possibly more. I get around 12-13 on H+ with my old SGS2, and would hope Nexus 5 with LTE disabled would get me the same speeds. LTE is not very important for me.
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You should get similar or faster H+ speeds than your galaxy s2.
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Here's a comparison for you.
North America (D820) Nexus 5 model:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
CDMA: Band Class: 0/1/10
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
LTE: Bands: 1/2/4/5/17/19/25/26/41
Outside North America (D821) Nexus 5 model:
GSM: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
WCDMA: Bands: 1/2/4/5/6/8
LTE: Bands: 1/3/5/7/8/20
As you can see, all the WCDMA bands on the D821 exist on the D820, which means you will still get 3G, HSPA, HSPA+, DC-HSPA
Thanx guys!