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I know this has been discussed before but how many people can hear a noise which sounds like a spring when they open the keyboard. Feels very flimsy and nowhere near as solid as the tytn.
I hear it too; I thought it was just me. I had the Hermes before this, and I wouldn't characterize the slider as solid though
I hear it, but it feels pretty solid to me.
I hear it too, I don't like it one bit. Feels pretty solid though
a spring noise
I have no such thing as a spring noise when opening my keybord...
so my awnser to the poll: NO
Xtreme XL said:
a spring noise
I have no such thing as a spring noise when opening my keybord...
so my awnser to the poll: NO
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Dont think its a spring, but a slider that protects the ribbon cable. when the device is open
Having listened again its more of a rattle and it rattles when the keyboard is open if you move the device about.
Hi All,
I maybe had the same thing.
If u flip your keyboard and turn your TP around u can see a little panel. This seem to be protecting something. This panel can go up and down and does so when you flip your kboard. In this panel is a spring
On My first TP (i switched mine becos of this fault) the panel jumped open, which sounded like a spring.
I ttink this is the problem.
I returned to the store and switched mine, np since.
Hope this helps
Mine is brand new today so do you think I should send it back? From the poll, seems about 50/50 people have the problem.
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It has all become clear, I can see the little plastic cover that is loose making the noise. Dont know if its suposed to be loose or not though
It's supposed to be loose, it moves while u flip your keyboard.
What happened with my old one (just after tweo days) that when i flipped my kboard, the plastic cover moves to far and opens for a brief second, hence the sound. I still have the sound but it's way softer cos tha plastic cover dont move that much.
Hope this helps, if u worry, return it, way to expensive !
When the screen is up to expose the keyboard there is a rattling sound. When the keyboard is down, no rattle.
who else has experienced this?
Do you think I should return it? If not, do you know what it is that rattles?
( this is not the "spring noise" that I have been reading about, at least I don't think it is)
mine does that
when its slid open there is a piece on the screen part on the side with the camera that can b moved
duno if its normal
Do you mean to say I can see the cause of the noise if I take the battery cover off, or did you disassemble your phone to find it?
no no
just slide the screen out
turn it over
when u look at the back ul see an indent that can be pushed in and out slightly it rattles
well at least now I know what is rattling, thanks
np
but i would like to know if everyone has this
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no no
just slide the screen out
turn it over
when u look at the back ul see an indent that can be pushed in and out slightly it rattles
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I see the same thing. looks like a cover plate for something.
Yeah i noticed it, too.
It isn't too bad but it is a little annoying.
If you slide that piece enough, you can see a ribbon cable.
It's the ribbon cable that connects the two halves of the phone. There is a little trap door there that covers it up while in the open position. If you watch it as you close the phone, the door opens as you slide it closed. But as it does that, it put tension on the spring, the tension keeps it tight when the phone is closed. When you open, no more tension and it has a little play in it. They should have spec'd the spring to have a little tension on it even in the open position so it would hold it still like when it's closed.
Oh well, probably some reason for it. Nothing to worry about at all though.
I was talking to my buddy at ATT last night. All the Fuze's have the rattle including mine. Nothing to worry
as long as it keeps the damn white screen away im happy
as long as it keeps the damn white screen away im happy
ya I was checking that out, it does look like all they needed was to keep a little spring tension on the door even when its all the way out
petard said:
Yeah i noticed it, too.
It isn't too bad but it is a little annoying.
If you slide that piece enough, you can see a ribbon cable.
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Mine rattles when closed. annoying
It's a little annoying, not because of the sound but because it makes it seem that much less unfinished. For our money we shouldn't get rattling phones.
My Fuze never rattled til now...
Well, this seems to be a big issue. On mine, the spring doesn't seem to keep the trap door on the back of the display shut at all, its almost "jamming" sometimes when you close the keyboard. I shouldn't have to check to make sure nothing is in the way when retracting the keyboard.
I almost want to scotch tape the black trap door shut to keep it from moving around.
There is a "silver" rectangular metal plate connected to the tension spring that seems to have come loose somehow.
The black door can be slid back and forth freely, as there is "nothing" holding it shut.
I don't like lose metal parts moving around inside my electronics that aren't connected to things they should be. Not at what we paid for this thing.
I see dust problems in the display in the future. I wonder if its time for warranty action?
This may be a stupid question but do cases with magnetic closures mess up the GPS of a nexus one in anyway? I remember reading something to that effect with the G1 a few years ago but am unsure if it's true or not.
It shouldn't affect the GPS itself... It will (obviously) affect the compass though, so perhaps the orientation may be misreported. GPS works on satellite signals, not geomagnetic forces.
Thanks for the answer.
it might effect the camera, i do not have a case for my Nexus (use holster) but I had a case with a magnet clasp on the cover that effected the camera on my Nokia N97, but with the fone in a case how are you going to use the GPS ?
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it might effect the camera, i do not have a case for my Nexus (use holster) but I had a case with a magnet clasp on the cover that effected the camera on my Nokia N97, but with the fone in a case how are you going to use the GPS ?
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Good point. I didn't think of that. The camera in the nexus one, as in most modern phones, uses a piezo ceramic motor for its autofocus mechanism. While not exactly working in a similar manner to standard electromagnetic motors, they are still influenced by the magnetic field. That said, you're not going to use the GPS or camera while the phone is in the holster, and the effects should be limited to that situation.
Oh, and if it's any comfort, I work with fMRI using moderately high field strength (3T). I have walked in the room with my phone before, and even though it is tugging to the scanner in my pocket, it still works completely fine today. A typical pocket magnet is 2-4 orders of magnitude weaker (1/100 - 1/10000 the strength). It will not damage anything in the phone permanently. Either that, or I have been extremely lucky.
Thanks for the answers. I ended up going with this Seidio Innocase Case and I couldn't be happier. No magnets to ruin your phone in this case
magnets can also screw with the capacitive touch screen.
Search for my post where I made a desk and a car mount using super strong hard drive magnets. I've been using it all day every day, no effects on anything except the compass when attach to the mount. Screen, touchscreen, camera, gps, totally unaffected. Compass still works fine when not mounted.
What do you think of this phones build? Initillay I thought it was great and solid... After some use Im starting to think its worse then I thought.
Why:
Screen Scratches and Cracks easily.
Power Button is sinking in.
Light Leaks
Bottom Lip Peals?
Location of charging port (Kinda Stupid)
Battery Life... (Not really build quality but still)
Kickstand Coating peels?
What do you think?
Lucky I havent come across those problems yet... So i say its good minus the tiny crevice around the screen, they could of designed it to be one solid piece....
mitchell4500 said:
What do you think of this phones build? Initillay I thought it was great and solid... After some use Im starting to think its worse then I thought.
Why:
Screen Scratches and Cracks easily.
Power Button is sinking in.
Light Leaks
Bottom Lip Peals?
Location of charging port (Kinda Stupid)
Battery Life... (Not really build quality but still)
Kickstand Coating peels?
What do you think?
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me personally, i have not had any of these issues. I had the light bleeding issue real bad, and exchanged my phone and have been issue free since.
Yeah, I have no idea what your talking about? I don't have any of these issue, and I happen to think the build quality of the phone is fantastic!
i'll see if i can get any info about warranty exchanges for any of these issues since launch from VZW. i haven't heard anything about any of these issues prior to today when i read about kickstand "paint" peeling, but it seems to me that it's a metal finish. i don't see paint on mine at all.
I agree 100% with your statements about the charging port and the light leaks on the bottom buttons but I haven't really had any of those other problems.
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Thanks for the replies lol. Im having all of these problems except for the bottom lip thing.
I think that HTC must have issues with the quality control of their manufacturing. The MT4G had all sorts of issues ranging from good/bad screen displays, light leaks, off center FFC, creaky buttons, etc, and I switched my EVO once due to light leak issues as well
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Off Set FFC? I definitely got that lol. I thought it was like that on purpose.
I just called them about all these things and they didnt want anything to do with me. They told me to go to the store.
The thunderbolt doesn't seem to have as good of build materials as some other phones HTC has made recently. Desire, nexus one, and desire s in particular. But its still decent enough, just not top notch.
The only problem i've noticed is the power button sinking in. If it gets to be a big problem hopefully there will be a recall
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The ffc isn't supposed to be offset?
My only real complaint is the kickstand/usb configuration.
one major design flaw i dont like is the placement of the LED, being inside the ear piece makes it difficult to see sometimes when you have a notificiation, espeically at an angle.
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one major design flaw i dont like is the placement of the LED, being inside the ear piece makes it difficult to see sometimes when you have a notificiation, espeically at an angle.
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thats not really a flaw, they did the same thing with the evo
The Front Facing Camera IS SUPPOSED TO BE a little to the Right with black on the left. ITS MADE LIKE THAT. Google Pictures of it and you will see they are all like that.
mitchell4500 said:
What do you think of this phones build? Initillay I thought it was great and solid... After some use Im starting to think its worse then I thought.
Why:
Screen Scratches and Cracks easily.
Power Button is sinking in.
Light Leaks
Bottom Lip Peals?
Location of charging port (Kinda Stupid)
Battery Life... (Not really build quality but still)
Kickstand Coating peels?
What do you think?
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I think the volumbe buttons are terrible they get stuck some times and become untactile and sink in.
Also on three different thunderbolts I have had issues with the headphone jack losing sound to the left speaker if the the plug turns to a certain point or is pushed gently to the right. Driving me nuts.
mitchell4500 said:
What do you think of this phones build? Initillay I thought it was great and solid... After some use Im starting to think its worse then I thought.
Why:
Screen Scratches and Cracks easily.
Power Button is sinking in.
Light Leaks
Bottom Lip Peals?
[*]Location of charging port (Kinda Stupid)
[*]Battery Life... (Not really build quality but still)
Kickstand Coating peels?
What do you think?
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The two bolded ones are the only biggies I have had. The former much worse than the latter. I have slight light leaks, but honestly if I had never seen a post about it I would have never even known it was there. The only thing I would add is the speaker location, or at least put holes in the kickstand. I still kinda miss my HW keyboard, as I am much slower with the OSKB. But really that is just a preference issue that LTE more than makes up for. I do kinda wish it had a builtin HDMI, but still LTE makes up for that too. The only thing that really aggravated me was the kickstand direction/charging port location. Personally I wish they would just put the usb on the bottom like the evo. But that is just me. That's really about all I can add.
nosympathy said:
me personally, i have not had any of these issues. I had the light bleeding issue real bad, and exchanged my phone and have been issue free since.
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I did this too and the phone I got doesn't bleed much...but the vibration motor is ROUGH (feels like it vibrated loose) and the plastic chin piece is pretty much just hanging there. I'm going to a more helpful Verizon store this time and making sure I get a good one. If I pay this much for a phone, it better be built pretty well.
I personally noticed the light leak the night I got my thunderbolt, which is the night of the launch, and it's really getting on my nerves. Coming from an eris, I'm used to the light leak from the lights behind the menu buttons at the bottom, but my thunderbolt has extra light leaks around the bottom casing. My only thought is that if light can get through, so can water. Being a daily swimmer, I want my phone to be as waterproof as possible. I bought a silicon case and screen cover for the phone, mostly to cover up the light leak and atleast for me, the bacl cover creaks ever so slightly... I dont know if thats just because it's on wrong or what... I'm afraid to take it off again cause it's so tight. Having just dropped $300 and signed my soul into another 2 year contact, I want my phone to be as perfect as possible, and I truly think I found this in the thunderbolt. Has anyone had these problems in later models (were they just early manufacturing defects?) I'm contemplating returning my thunderbolt for a new one. Also... Did I mention I'm an android developer and that's where the money came from to buy my thunderbolt?? Haha
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just been using google skymap and I've noticed there is something rattling inside my transformer!!!!!!
is the back removable? anyone spotted a way something could have got inside? or is it something broken inside?????
its not been dropped or anything ........ and I've only just started noticing the noise .....
you sure it isn't edge creak? if it really is ratteling return it.
not a creak. something moves inside the unit from one end to the other. only started tonight. thing is I have no light bleed no sharp edges ....... don't know if its just something got in through a gap somewhere or something snapped off inside
My opinion would be return it, sure it could be harmless but it's still a faulty product. It could also **** up your device later on or be a sign of more ominous things.
I know you are right .... but I bought it from comet and it took long enough to arrive so god knows how long a replacement will take
and sods law ill get light bleed or gaps or sharp edges next time
ill ring comet tomorrow
wilbur-force said:
just been using google skymap and I've noticed there is something rattling inside my transformer!!!!!!
is the back removable? anyone spotted a way something could have got inside? or is it something broken inside?????
its not been dropped or anything ........ and I've only just started noticing the noise .....
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If you enable and disable the camera it makes a sound. Try activating camera ....is that the same noise you hear?
wilbur-force said:
just been using google skymap and I've noticed there is something rattling inside my transformer!!!!!!
is the back removable? anyone spotted a way something could have got inside? or is it something broken inside?????
its not been dropped or anything ........ and I've only just started noticing the noise .....
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If you enable and disable the camera it makes a sound. Try activating camera ....is that the same noise you hear?
I know there are 2 openings right under the LCD itself cover. On the left hand side there is tow half inch hole under the LCD, if you take a piec of paper and insert it at the left hand edge and sort of drag it down...you'll know where the gaps are, but this is too small for anything to go through...maybe these are air vents.
its not the camera. I'm sat here web browsing and if I rotate landscape and portrait it hear something moving.
not sure I follow what you mean about the holes. wondering if something has got in through the keyboard dock points???
It's probably baby teeth. I hear they're good luck.
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It's probably baby teeth. I hear they're good luck.
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Or the hamster fell out of the wheel
Sounds like another asus QC story, i wonder what crazy stories will come next?
Good luck with getting it resolved.
Photo cameras have mechanical orientation sensors that are making a noise when going from landscape to portrait but they are very quiet and I doubt they are used in phones and tablets which have accelerometers.
this was something definitely moving about..... ie traveling the length and width of the unit.
its stopped now though so I haven't got a hope in hell of persuading comet that "my unit was rattling, honest! "
don't worry about persuading comet...just give them a call and they'll replace it...
I asked for a replacement yesterday..and I believe the support guy had no idea what a light bleed is, and he tole me parcelforce will come my home with a new TF on Monday..
damn.... after a week of no rattling its started again. I'm convinced its just a fragment of plastic or something and apart from that the unit is perfect .... no light bleed or dead pixels or dust ....
do I risk exchanging?
I wonder how easy it is to get the back off?
wilbur-force said:
damn.... after a week of no rattling its started again. I'm convinced its just a fragment of plastic or something and apart from that the unit is perfect .... no light bleed or dead pixels or dust ....
do I risk exchanging?
I wonder how easy it is to get the back off?
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You might try a magnet and see if you can move the fragment within the case. Of course, it could use aluminum screws but metal will have more mass than plastic. If it tends to roll easily, I would suspect a metal fragment.
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You might try a magnet and see if you can move the fragment within the case. Of course, it could use aluminum screws but metal will have more mass than plastic. If it tends to roll easily, I would suspect a metal fragment.
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That's a good way to screw up other components inside your device. I wouldnt do that if I were you.
lol, no, i think i will avoid the magnets thanks
.... sent from my shiny new keyboard that arrived this afternoon by the way