I've looked around but haven't found any way to make my SD card the default storage means for my Plus. I read something on a thread about changing some code magic stuff thingie but can't find that now (of course). Not a complete noob but very, very careful. Maybe a little paranoid. So... anyone know how to designate an SD card as default storage for things like books, downloads, photos, etc?
I'm pretty sure it can't be done - Tab has enough difficulty with write permission to sd card as it is
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Okay XDA tenured- please be gentle. I ve searched, but can not find specific answers to my questions. I ordered a 16gb class 6 (currently have class 2), but would appreciate information before making the changes.
1.) Is it possible to leave current apps on the device memory, then set up for apps to SD and then future apps will go to the card?
2) Based on question 1) if it works, when I update future apps on the device, I am guessing they would then uninstall from the device and then install to card?
3) Would it be best for performance to leave all cache on the device memory? Seems like the system would be faster then.
4) What is the meg space difference leaving all cache or moving it?
5) When changing over to apps to SD, is it not kind of like the same constrained system as an iPhone (Plenty of intitial space, but no ability for external storage)? Point being, if all the apps are on the card and you want to listen to or view media on a seperate card, you would not be able to, since the apps are on the "device" card. This is the whole point to my first question. Unless you can copy the app directory path on the card to another card and use as is- just like the card already installed too...
1: Yes, if you follow my tutorial, it has you copy the existing apps to the sd card and if you use my app, the checkbox tells it to do that as well.
2: No apps will be on your device. There's no way to have a hybrid here, it's either all apps on the sd card or none(not actually true but would be a pain in the ass to make symlinks for each app individually and I don't know of anyone who cared enough to actually try it)
3: I have all apps and caches on the sd card and it is running just as smoothly as normal(and with a class 2 sd card!) There might be some slowdown but it's imperceptible to me.
4: With the cache on device it'll vary depending on what apps you have and how often you use them. With everything moved the memory on the device seems to stay permanently at 72-73MB. That said, moving the normal cache(dalvik-cache seems to be ok) is pretty unstable and I wouldn't suggest it unless you really know what you're doing.
5: Yes, unfortunately this whole process relies on the system not knowing the apps are on the sd card so it's pretty strongly tied to one. That said, you could probably get away with different sd cards as long as they also have an ext2 partition with the app, app-private, etc. directories in it. You'd probably have to reboot when switching sd cards but it should be possible(interestingly you could use this to get different settings depending on what sd card you have in)
Thanks!
So basically we have an iPhone in regards to being stuck to device memory and no option for external storage beyond what is on the card.
I guess there are pros and cons to either set-up. App hounds would prefer apps2sd and media hounds may prefer leaving things alone.
If you are an app and media hound, you are kind of stuck juggling media from the card.
Yep. Although as I was talking about, you could theoretically move each app independently and set up symlinks in the /data/app directory for each app, pointing to where it is on the sd card and leave the ones you want on the phone as they are, but that doesn't sound particularly fun.
Would someone mind explaining to me the the sd card in this phone. Just when I thought I had it figured our I put cm7 #47 on and now I am confused again. Where exactly do the apps go that I move to sd. Do they go to the phone partition still?? Also I noticed a thread about switching the internal and external around. Is there a benefit to that?? I also noticed it looks like a lot more things are going on my actual external card now with cm7 then when it was stock. If someone who understands all this would explain it a little I would appreciate it.
(Edit) if I do switch the cards around, does that mean my apps will be moved to the actual external sd??
I've poked around but I dont think I found what I am trying to do. I want to mount my SD card like it mounts my phone; install the apps to the device, store the data on the sd card... any way to do this?
You can' do it, honeycomb doesn't support installation on external sd cards for now. Vanilla honeycomb can't even write on external sdcards, for exemple on the motorola xoom. You can read/write on some tablets thanks to the respective manufacturer's 'tweak'.
I dont want to store the apps on the SD card, just the data, downloads, photos taken from the camera, ect. all I see is a Removable\MicroSD folder which I can browse to, read/write to, but I want all the data on my apps to go to it too just like on my phone, so when I wipe, all my stuff is still there (In theory)
They won't be deleted even if they are on the internal storage even after wiping. It acts as a sdcard.
I might be mistaken, but thanks to the honeycomb 3.2 OS update, it IS possible now that they've opened up the API to the developers.
Unfortunately, it actually depends on the application developers to make use of it... Leave some comments on the android market for your apps and maybe they will do it.
i'm probably mistaken. post from a random website regarding new features in 3.2:
Media sync from SD cards, allowing users to load media directly from an SD card to applications which use them
I did not realize that the folder was persistent, that's good to know thanks
I think I read that the way our tab combines the stuff that would normally go in the external memory with our internal memory is a honeycomb thing, if so does ics add the stuff that normally would go on the sd card to internal memory also? If not is there a chance that our tablets will be able to add stuff to the sd card like normal or is it hard wired in our tabs & changing the OS won't make a difference? is the 7.7 tab with ics also set up this way?
For example when we download stuff it would go on the real/external sd card or have the option to add apps to sd from settings menu? ...I'm sure I'm not alone when I say I feel cheated on memory cuz alot of the space that's being used should be on my sd card like music & pictures. Thankfully now I can copy stuff to my sd card thanks to the sd tweak I found here so I can at least manually add pictures to the sd card now without having to do it from the computer all the time. I think that's the dumbest set up they could have added on an Android.
Thank you to everyone for all of your contributions, it is really appreciated.
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kcerica said:
I think I read that the way our tab combines the stuff that would normally go in the external memory with our internal memory is a honeycomb thing, if so does ics add the stuff that normally would go on the sd card to internal memory also? If not is there a chance that our tablets will be able to add stuff to the sd card like normal or is it hard wired in our tabs & changing the OS won't make a difference? is the 7.7 tab with ics also set up this way?
For example when we download stuff it would go on the real/external sd card or have the option to add apps to sd from settings menu? ...I'm sure I'm not alone when I say I feel cheated on memory cuz alot of the space that's being used should be on my sd card like music & pictures. Thankfully now I can copy stuff to my sd card thanks to the sd tweak I found here so I can at least manually add pictures to the sd card now without having to do it from the computer all the time. I think that's the dumbest set up they could have added on an Android.
Thank you to everyone for all of your contributions, it is really appreciated.
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No, Samsung likes MTP.
You did the tweak, but did you understand what it was?
On honeycomb the apps that write to the external need a new permission. The older apps dont have it, so you got a error if you try.
I think it is very probable it stays on ICS.
But we never needed to connect to PC to do this transfer. The built in file browser has this permission.
I have been using Drive Syncrypt (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.semaphore.drivesyncrypt) for a while now, primarily to backup work-related documents to my Google Drive (PDFs, Power Points, etc.). My phone started running low on space so I finally purchases a micro SD card and moved all of my files there. Down side is that Drive Syncrypt doesn't read from external SD cards so I can't point it there to back stuff up.
I looked around for a way to "trick" the app so that it wouldn't see it as an external SD card, but my researched proved to be more confusing than helpful. Some suggestions included "mounting the folder as a drive" (no idea what that really means), creating a symbolic link to the folder on the SD card, etc. This is all stuff I am not well versed in.
My question is: is there a way to make it look like a folder on an external SD card is not actually residing on the SD card, allowing me to point apps like Drive Syncrypt to it for syncing purposes?
Thanks in advance, any help would be greatly appreciated. If more details are needed or anything is unclear please let me know.
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