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Hi,
Today, my Desire S froze up and I had to pull the battery. Now when I try to boot, it just shows the HTC logo and then goes black (with backlight on).
I can still go into recovery, but I don't have a recent backup
I can make one now, but I guess that won't help.
Is there a way to fix my phone without losing the data on it?
I found a thread with a similar problem, but it was very brief with no confirmation whether the suggestion (flashing an RUU) had worked.
Regards,
woop1
/edit: Phone is rooted and S-OFF
no info no help..if u have custom recovery flash rom again
Sorry, I'm new to this. What info do you need?
The Phone is S-OFF and rooted with clockwork recovery, but stock rom. Can I flash the stock rom again without losing my data? Does it have to be the exact same version that was on the phone before?
//edit: To everyone with the same problem: Wiping cache from clockwork recovery has solved the issue for me.
hello and sorry for the same questions asked over the same issue...
its my first time and im afraid to brick my phone
anyway now im with custom rom and want to go back to stock to receive ota updates.
my phone is rooted and s-off i want to stay s-off with stock rom.
1. is it possible ?
2. will i need to wipe data before the flash?
3. backup needed ?
4. will i get ota updates with stock rom s-off?
5. the ruu is europe 1.47 do i need it to match to my software/radio/hboot?
my phone:
SAGA PVT SHIP S-off RL
HBOOT -0.98.0002
RADIO-3805.06.02.03_M
EMMC-boot
@yonigo870
Since you want to stay s-off and a stock rom then....
1) Yes if you don't want need OTA. No if you want ota
2) Yes
3) If you want to restore your apps/data yes, google SHOULD be okay with contacts/calendar
4) Dont be silly, really, DONT TRY STOCK THINGS ON ALTERED PHONES, thats common sense (at least it should be)
5) You will not use a RUU, you wil use a pre rooted stock rom from the development forum
However, if you want to get ota updates you will need to go s-on and use a RUU, I suggest just getting the latest RUU
My suggesttion, rather leave your phone as is and install a stock pre rooted rom, you can always install the latest stock rom when the OTA is released and its made into a prerooted rom.
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@yonigo870
Since you want to stay s-off and a stock rom then....
1) Yes if you don't want need OTA. No if you want ota
2) Yes
3) If you want to restore your apps/data yes, google SHOULD be okay with contacts/calendar
4) Dont be silly, really, DONT TRY STOCK THINGS ON ALTERED PHONES, thats common sense (at least it should be)
5) You will not use a RUU, you wil use a pre rooted stock rom from the development forum
However, if you want to get ota updates you will need to go s-on and use a RUU, I suggest just getting the latest RUU
My suggesttion, rather leave your phone as is and install a stock pre rooted rom, you can always install the latest stock rom when the OTA is released and its made into a prerooted rom.
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@foX2delta i agree with you
@yonigo870 flashing a ruu can actually force you into a bootloop if you flash the wrong RUU the best wasy to get to stock is to flash a pre-rooted stock ROM
heres both links to the RUU and pre-rooted stock ROMs
RUU http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002506
pre-rooted http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1183684
i hope i have helped
thanks
thanks for the help !
how do i flash pre rooted roms?
and witch one i need???
and the other thing is, if i want to flash one of the custom roms via rom manager how do i flash the updates ? will it be the same way? do i need to change anything else or i can just backup and flash rom?!
yonigo870 said:
thanks for the help !
how do i flash pre rooted roms?
and witch one i need???
and the other thing is, if i want to flash one of the custom roms via rom manager how do i flash the updates ? will it be the same way? do i need to change anything else or i can just backup and flash rom?!
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here is a few guides to help with that question i don't know anything about rom manager sorry i use 4ext touch recovery
Custom ROMS:
Custom roms can be found in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1146601 or head to the development section.
(Most of these ROMs are pre-rooted, which means that you don't need to root your phone after flashing one of the custom ROM.)
How To: Flash Custom ROMs using Recovery (Method 1)
(You can use your default recovery from Revolutionary tool but I recommend using 4EXTRecovery)
1. Copy your custom ROM "zip" file to your SD card (Root directory).
2. Turn off your phone.
3. Turn on your phone by holding the power button and the volume down button together.
4. Once you see the white screen, choose "Recovery"
5. Make a full wipe/format and clear all cache.
6. Choose "install from sdcard/zip file" and then choose your Custom ROM zip file from your SD card to flash your Custom ROM.
Optional: If you want to use 4EXTRecovery, just flash it like you are flashing your custom ROM(Step 6). Just do it before you flash your new ROM.
How To: Flash Custom ROMs using ROM Manager (Method 2)
(This method might be easier for flashing ROM updates or add-ons)
1. Go to ROM Manager (You can install this software from the Android Market.)
2. If you want to use 4EXTRecovery, please follow steps below, and if you're not using 4EXTRecovery, please skip to step 6)
3. Press your phone's option's button and choose Manual Flash Override.
4. Press OK and choose your phone model.
5. Choose ClockworkMod 3.x (After these steps, your ROM Manager won't ask you to flash new recovery again when flashing new a ROM)
6. Reboot into Recovery and make a full wipe/format and clear all cache then reboot.
7. Now, from your ROM Manager, choose Install ROM from SD Card.
Note: Flashing ROMs can be vary, some custom ROMs may require you to flash some of their own file first. Eg, The LBC Mod ROM requires you to flash "WIPE zip file" before flashing the ROM. Read their instructions carefully to know more.
NOTE: I am not responsible for any faulty or bricked devices after S-OFF or flashing new ROMs. Do it at your own risk.
How To: Flash a ROM in a "Perfect" Way (Method 3 - Recommended)
A great guide from vampire36 for people who encounter the following problems:
1. The ROM you flashed gets stuck on HTC screen (bootloop) while the same ROM works right for others
2. You get the same kernel and radio yet you find your cell to have more battery drain than others
3. Finally some strange force closes and restarts but works perfect for others
So this is basically one of the most perfect way to flash a custom ROM and is a way to help people who face such issues.
Please head to : http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1257731 to see full instructions and discussions.
Blush91 said:
@foX2delta i agree with you
@yonigo870 flashing a ruu can actually force you into a bootloop if you flash the wrong RUU the best wasy to get to stock is to flash a pre-rooted stock ROM
heres both links to the RUU and pre-rooted stock ROMs
RUU http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1002506
pre-rooted http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1183684
i hope i have helped
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You can enter a boot-loop but I've flashed ROMs too many times to remember (stock & MOD) and never truly boot-looped. You may soft-brick your phone however, but with remedy. Rooting phones & flashing ROMs isn't for the faint-hearted. My phone was dead for almost 48 hours (within 24 hours of purchase). That's how I joined XDA.
Scary. Turned out it wasn't hopeless. Within an hour of Temp Root, I had self-styled flashed CWM Recovery (haven't run into the gung-ho method I crafted yet, at least on these forums), proceeded to acquire Permanent Root afterwards and within the week had flashed 4 ROMs. Invented a few tricks myself .
Point is you have to get your hands dirty. That's why you bought the darn phone in the first place! Pull your gloves & get those hands dirty!
Saipro said:
You can enter a boot-loop but I've flashed ROMs too many times to remember (stock & MOD) and never truly boot-looped. You may soft-brick your phone however, but with remedy. Rooting phones & flashing ROMs isn't for the faint-hearted. My phone was dead for almost 48 hours (within 24 hours of purchase). That's how I joined XDA.
Scary. Turned out it wasn't hopeless. Within an hour of Temp Root, I had self-styled flashed CWM Recovery (haven't run into the gung-ho method I crafted yet, at least on these forums), proceeded to acquire Permanent Root and within the week had flashed 4 ROMs. Invented a few tricks myself .
Point is you have to get your hands dirty. That's why you bought the darn phone in the first place! Pull your gloves & get those hands dirty!
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yes i've flashed many roms also and have never encountered a boot-loop the only time i got a boot-loop was when i flashed the wrong RUU in the past 48 hours i've changed roms about 20 times
flashing pre rooted stock rom
in progress...
hope i wont fu*k my phone at the very first time im doing this
btw im doing that with rom manager
yonigo870 said:
in progress...
hope i wont fu*k my phone at the very first time im doing this
btw im doing that with rom manager
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Loooool don't worry that's what's xda is for were all here to help
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA
no wifi
flashed Saga_Europe_2.10.401.8_heb made by dmatik
and no wifi !!! how to fix it ?
the other thing is that i cant connect to market ...
and how do i restore titanium backup if i cant find the program on my apps ?
the phone updates himself ??? i see it updates programs from the market without me doing anything
* do i need to reboot the phone after flashing rom ??? and how ?
yonigo870 said:
flashed Saga_Europe_2.10.401.8_heb made by dmatik
and no wifi !!! how to fix it ?
the other thing is that i cant connect to market ...
and how do i restore titanium backup if i cant find the program on my apps ?
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I don't know much about titanium I use app extractor try this ROM http://db.tt/Wnl7ZrKa
App extractor restores your apps contacts wifi settings SMS from your nandroid(backup)
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA
many thanks for the help !!!!
do i need to reboot after flashing ?
Yeah reboot I hope you made a full wipe before flashing sorry should have told you earlier
Sent from my HTC Desire S using XDA
yeah i did full wipe
after flashing rom the phone made updates from the market by himself, and now im restoring via titanium and seems like everything is ok...
after that titanium asked me to reboot, and so i did.
again thanks a lot for the support and for the help !!!!!!!!
problem !!! the rosie utility stopped unexpectedly...
htc widgets (like clock and weather) not working after restoring with titanium!
maybe its since the backup was on sense 2.1 and now its 3.0
how can make the htc widgets work ???
reboot back into recovery and fix permissions i dont know if you can do that in titanium
solved !!!
all was needed is to clear data from the htc sense
I want to be sure my DS can receive and install the imminent (?) ota ICS from HTC. Still a bit of a noob so read a lot of stuff on here and other forums (mainly non DS) but haven't really found definitive answers for the 'half rooted' device i.e. bootloader unlocked via htcdev, cwm flashed, s-on.
Main concerns are:
losing root
ota will not install because of /system/app and framework mismatch (after a few UOT mods) - boot animation and sound have also been changed in /system/customise/resource, also bloatware removed
ota issues with cwm installed
Originally first thing I did immediately after flashing cwm was a nandroid backup so that's available to me, which really only leaves the cwm and ota compatability question.
Is Rootkeeper an option or should I root from scratch again after ota?
If I receive notification of the ota availability, then restore from original backup (and maybe relock bootloader with htcdev?) will I then have lost the chance to install the ota?
A lot of questions and ifs, I know, I just don't want to screw up the chance to try the official ICS before going for a custom rom. Thanks in advance.
Hboot 2.00.0002
Android 2.3.5
Sense 3.0
Stock rom/kernel/radio
Sorry, I'm pretty sure HTC Dev unlocked devices can't get OTA updates. I'm completely sure devices with CWM can't (you need stock HTC recovery). Since you already have a custom recovery, it would be better to get a custom ROM, much fastr and tweaked
As shrome99 said..
To get the OTA update you will need to have STOCK recovery, and a relocked bootloader to get the OTA.
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This assumes you are 100% stock on the operating side.
foX2delta said:
As shrome99 said..
To get the OTA update you will need to have STOCK recovery, and a relocked bootloader to get the OTA.
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This assumes you are 100% stock on the operating side.
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I got OTA updates with both an unlocked bootloader and custom recovery. It's true the update won't install till you're back on stock recovery but the locked bootloader isn't necessary. I was however updating from Stock Sense 2.1
Warning: do not install it if you get a OTA message if rooted!
It will lead to the dreaded red triangle screen. Your best bet is to just install CWM/4EXT then when the new update comes, install the ICS prerooted ROM by Adidas.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium
The "dreaded" triangle screen is just the stock recovery.
Jack_R1 said:
The "dreaded" triangle screen is just the stock recovery.
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That won't boot back to your ROM therefore you are stuck.
No root/s-off, therefore you can't do much about it. (Unless you get the RUU to run)
And for the average user, this is difficult for them to understand. Hence it has picked up its name as the 'dreaded triangle screen' over several different HTC device threads.
Sent from my HTC Desire S using xda premium
Cheers for the input.. did a bit more snooping and (if and when I get the ota shout).. I think I can go back with original nandroid to pre-root, before superuser went in. Then I'll give Android Recovery Manager (Sensation Android Development forum) a lash, just to see if I can flash back the stock recovery img.
If any nice ota comes my way which won't take then I'll try htcdev to relock the bootloader and give it another lash!
Think (hope) it'll work.. couldn't find a stock img anywhere yet so I'm hoping it's included in the above manager.. was going to try tonight but, typical, my connection went..
'Your best bet is to just install CWM/4EXT then when the new update comes, install the ICS prerooted ROM by Adidas.'
I have cwm, not sure why I would wait for the update then install a custom ics rom..
You must install stock recovery to install OTA update.OTA won't install, if you have custom recovery or S-off.But I recommend to install ROM, using zip or RUU.
From htcdev:
(after unlocking bootloader) Some content on your device may also be invalidated and cannot be accessed any more because of invalid DRM security keys. This includes content that you may have purchased through a 3rd party vendor and through HTC. Furthermore, although you will still be able to receive updates to your device via FOTA (“firmware over the air”), we do not guarantee that updating your device via FOTA will not render your device unusable.
That answers the question re the bootloader but I'm struggling to find the stock recovery img to flash.
I suppose I can extract and then flash it, possibly from this: RUU_Saga_S_HTC_Europe_2.10.401.5_Radio_20.4801.30.0822U_3822.10.08.04_M_release_219480_signed.exe, even though my device is 2.10.161.3 (161 is Vodafone). The radio is the same as mine which is irrelevant anyway, right?
I know it would be easier to install the RUU but after hours of research I would really like to be able to nail this so I have the option of reverting back to VF stock, as I still have 18 months warranty left.
Can anyone can confirm if I'm on the right track pls?
I suppose, if you haven't GoldCard or SuperCID recovery won't flash(signature verify failed).Download Zip/exe of your ROM , and flash that recovery.After that you might be able to install FOTA.No guarantee it will work.
scandron said:
I suppose, if you haven't GoldCard or SuperCID recovery won't flash(signature verify failed).Download Zip/exe of your ROM , and flash that recovery.After that you might be able to install FOTA.No guarantee it will work.
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It will flash, because his bootloader is unlocked.
He won't need a goldcard cause he is flashing a voda RUU recover, future I don't think it will even come into play when using fastboot to flash it.
However I suggest EVERYONE who is a little unsure make a goldcard.
Thanks all, trying to get a gold card now just to be sure.. however just intend to extract and flash the recovery img from the ruu, once I can be sure I have the right one.. the stock recovery in HTC devices is generic, no?
i also have a doubt.
what i wanted to know is that will i still be able to update my device OTA if i have unlocked the bootloader, rooted my device but havent installed a custom recovery?my device is rooted nothing more than that. and after relocking my bootloader (i dont mind loosing root) will i be able to update OTA?
sorry for being irrelevant but i didnt want to start a new thread for a doubt of this magnitude.
See post #10
Hello All,
I will start this thread with the obligatory "Im new to rooting...." sentence but over the last 2 or so weeks have been doing my research between multiple sites (including this one), getting frustrated at how many "How to...but before you do" guides there are out there adn you tube videos but have finally managed to perm root and S-Off my UK Vodafone HTC Sensation.
I have flashed clockwork recovery without a hitch and managed to download the Cynaogen Rom without to much difficulty.
The problem:
While looking for overclocking ROMs, decided that the Virtuous Sensation ROM might be the one for me.
While doing further research, I discovered that I would need to flash the new PG58IMG.zip Firmware before the ROM would work. To do this, I would potentially be required to SuperCID, which I also did.
SuperCID complete and Firmeware flashed (and then removed from the SD card) I wiped the phone (several times following instructions on this site) and then installed the Virtuous ROM.
Now I get stuck on boot loop with the blue "V" showing for a about a second and then restarting.
Following some further internet checking, I found it may be a bad download of the ROM so downloaded again but the same thing happened. I also downloaded a different Virtuous ROM to confirm it was the Virtuous Sensation ROM that was corrupt but the other ROM got stuck on boot loop, albeit, the blue "V" now shoed for about 5 seconds.
I decided to load a recovery and revert back to the Cynaogen ROM except......sometimes its stuck on boot loop and other times it loads but I have no network coverage.
I have two questions:
Why did the new Virtuous ROM not work with the recommended firmware?
and
How can I restore my phone? I am guessing this problem may be the new firmware but I have read that this one works with Gingerbread and ICS?
Any help would be appreciated...preferably in a non "PHD in IT required" way.
Thanks in advance if anyone can help.
mostly it might be because of Firmware
what firmware you installed (my guess is 3.24 as you said works for both ICS and GB )
but i suggest you to use 3.33 firmware for ICS or above roms and 1.17 For GB roms
here is the firmware thread
OK, just tried flashing the ICS firmware (thanks for reply) from the link you posted, wiped the phone, cache etc and reinstalled ROM.
I get stuck on boot loop but the blue "v" does load for a little longer now.
From doing some more reading I have seen people saying to check MD5 match. Would someone mind explaining what ths is and how to do it?
OK, ignore the MD5 thing, i searched and found and its a match for all downloads.
ROM is an MD5 match also.
Tried all firmware and still stuck on boot loop.....
One thing I have noticed is that when I load usig the vol down + power, it sates that the 58IMG is "no image or wrong image"....could this be anything to do with it?
ssjghost said:
OK, ignore the MD5 thing, i searched and found and its a match for all downloads.
ROM is an MD5 match also.
Tried all firmware and still stuck on boot loop.....
One thing I have noticed is that when I load usig the vol down + power, it sates that the 58IMG is "no image or wrong image"....could this be anything to do with it?
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That's generic bootloader function... So its common.. The searching for PG58IMG thing...
Now the best and most effective way is to first cleanup everything usig ruu.. Search for "ruu guide and info" thread by kgs1992 in sensation general section... Use that.. Find the proper ruu and flash it.. Check whether the stock rom(ruu) is flashing or not..If flashing then flash custom recovery and flash your custom rom again
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I have checked through a few forums and just want to clarify something before I go down the RUU route:
Will flashing the RUU to stock mean I lose S-Off or perm root? You say I will have to flash a custom recovery image again so I guess that means flashing clockworkmod through HBoot but will I then be expected to flash further firmware?
Thanks, Ill give the RUU thing a go.
I tried all the firmware with te Virtuous ROM and nothing worked but then one of the bottom firmware donloads (3.24 I think, cant remember know following multiple downloads) and booted the recovery.
Now I have signal again!
Thanks for advice, I will try the RUU thing....
Cheers
ssjghost said:
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I have checked through a few forums and just want to clarify something before I go down the RUU route:
Will flashing the RUU to stock mean I lose S-Off or perm root? You say I will have to flash a custom recovery image again so I guess that means flashing clockworkmod through HBoot but will I then be expected to flash further firmware?
Thanks, Ill give the RUU thing a go.
I tried all the firmware with te Virtuous ROM and nothing worked but then one of the bottom firmware donloads (3.24 I think, cant remember know following multiple downloads) and booted the recovery.
Now I have signal again!
Thanks for advice, I will try the RUU thing....
Cheers
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RUU means everything to stock except SOFF ..so you would lose custom recovery, perm root .but the best part is as you still have SOFF ..you can just flash a custom recovery again ..and flash su zip for perm root again ..done voila
and SOFF means ..yes you can flash any firmware
Thanks for all you help mate, in the end i found Cyanogen 10 ROM which does everything I want so followed all instructions and works fine now.
Thanks again for being patient with a nub......much appreciated!:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
I was trying to get the cynogen mod rom on my sensation 4g and it is now just stuck in the loading screen of the cynogen mod (bootloops i think). i dont know what to do. Is there anyway i can go back to stock via odin or any other way. :crying:
irfan9490 said:
I was trying to get the cynogen mod rom on my sensation 4g and it is now just stuck in the loading screen of the cynogen mod (bootloops i think). i dont know what to do. Is there anyway i can go back to stock via odin or any other way. :crying:
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Shot in the dark here since you've provided almost no information to work with...
You are still s-on and did not flash the ROM using SmartFlash on 4EXT.
If you are s-on you need SmartFlash. If you try to do with with CWM or 4EXT without SmartFlash, you'll get bootloops.
Also, NEVER use Odin with a non Samsung product. It probably won't even recognize a non Samsung device anyway, but it is does it's very likely to massively screw up your device beyond all recognition.
Skipjacks said:
Shot in the dark here since you've provided almost no information to work with...
You are still s-on and did not flash the ROM using SmartFlash on 4EXT.
If you are s-on you need SmartFlash. If you try to do with with CWM or 4EXT without SmartFlash, you'll get bootloops.
Also, NEVER use Odin with a non Samsung product. It probably won't even recognize a non Samsung device anyway, but it is does it's very likely to massively screw up your device beyond all recognition.
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yes i am still s-on and did not flash rom using smart flash on 4ext i used twrp and straight up flashed the rom and gapps. i had no idea what i was doing.
it would be great you could help me thank you
irfan9490 said:
yes i am still s-on and did not flash rom using smart flash on 4ext i used terp and straight up flashed the rom and gapps. i had no idea what i was doing.
it would be great you could help me thank you
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Search the Sensation forums for "Smart Flash"
You will find various threads and guides explaining in detail everything you need to know.
Short version....
Restore the nandroid backup you made of your stock rom in CWM first. If you previously rooted that ROM, this is a super easy process. Just download the 4EXT app from the playstore and install 4EXT REcovery from within the app. The app will ask you if you are s-on then walk you through the process of smartflash. If you didn't make a backup of your stock rom, or if the stock rom isn't rooted, search for how to install 4EXT.
Skipjacks said:
Search the Sensation forums for "Smart Flash"
You will find various threads and guides explaining in detail everything you need to know.
Short version....
Restore the nandroid backup you made of your stock rom in CWM first. If you previously rooted that ROM, this is a super easy process. Just download the 4EXT app from the playstore and install 4EXT REcovery from within the app. The app will ask you if you are s-on then walk you through the process of smartflash. If you didn't make a backup of your stock rom, or if the stock rom isn't rooted, search for how to install 4EXT.
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ok i will try that thaks.
irfan9490 said:
I was trying to get the cynogen mod rom on my sensation 4g and it is now just stuck in the loading screen of the cynogen mod (bootloops i think). i dont know what to do. Is there anyway i can go back to stock via odin or any other way. :crying:
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When I flashed my first rom, I had the same problem you are having......using 4ext with smartflash will remedy it
what you can also do is unzip the rom on your pc and flash the boot.img to your phone using adb (from pc)
For that you will have to install htc drivers on your pc....check the flash boot.img part on this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1631861
hope this helps.
Kernel
May be you flashed a wrong version of kernel? There are kernels fo ICS, and for JB.