Greetings fellow G-tabbers,
I appreciate everyone's input here and am hoping to be a long-term member of this community.
I would love to keep this tablet but am thinking it's going to have to be returned before my 14 day window with T-Mobile is up.
My questions: Is it possible to set up some kind of workaround to be able to receive CONDITIONALLY FORWARDED calls via the G-Tab/T-Mobile phone number to my other T-Mobile phone (basically, set up conditional call forwarding)? According to T-Mobile they can't because the tablet plan has a code in the system blocking calls.
Or if that's not possible, is there some other way, perhaps spoofing my own cell phone number as my outbound text number instead of using the assigned tablet phone number?
I realize that there are 3rd party apps out there but I'd much rather use the native text messaging application and not a 3rd party app such as Google Voice, Line 2, etc.
Here's the background:
I am a headhunter for a Federal DoD contractor and as such, I review resumes on various job boards (i.e. Monster.com, etc). As a way to connecting with candidates (I know who they are but they do not know me yet), I send them a text message, email and then voicemail. When setting up my Data Plan, I learned T-Mobile scripted within the system "call block" or "voice barred" feature, Tier 3 tech support at Tmo is unable to set up conditional call forwarding.
As a result of this, should a candidate decide to call my text number they'll get a dead number message saying something to the effect that this phone line cannot take incoming calls.
So what happens is that the candidate things I am unreachable or worse yet that the text message was spam (unless they fully read their text and check their email account).
Thanks so much in advance for your help and consideration.
Im assuming you have a GT-P6200 since tmobiles GTab+ doesnt have phone abilities.
Tell them you dont want/need a tablet plan becuase YOU DONT HAVE A TABLET!
tell them it IS a smartphone, have them try to put you on a smartphone plan, thats
how most of ATT guys sneak by.
at least try to find a smartphone SIM with data/voice to see if it works without issues. It should.
last resort: "bribe" a young tmobile rep to spoof an IMEI to put you on smartphone plan.
Thanks Chris! I'll try that! I am using 2 other phones (work + personal), I wonder if I set up call forwarding prior to swapping SIM cards if it'll work.
Your thoughts?
Yes i think the call forwarding should stickt
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Yes i think the call forwarding should stickt
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Great!
I just realized that my mini Sims won't work. Have to buy an adaptor to try/test out.
Quick question... Only because I am new to Tmo and sim cards (just fired Sprint) . What is involved with spoofing an IMEI?
Thank you again for your help!
P.S. how do you use your tab? Do you have it rooted?
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I think other people here use smartphone sims with unlimited data on tmobile. Its do-able. Next time, a good rule is to always avoid telling your carrier how you will use your device because you know they think they know what is best.
Anyways spoofing an IMEI, means.. they need a smartphone IMEI in their "system", so a friendly helpful tmobile rep who doesnt care much about getting in trouble or knows his way around takes an IMEI from a never used phone like a demo model, you run an application that reports your IMEI the demo, etc. Its actually probably more involved than this. And Ive heard it may well be illegal, Class C felony. What you might want to ask them is if there is a way to just enter your device as a smartphone and not a tablet, but it is probably generated by IMEI.
PROTIP: if you do have 6200, it's good idea to make 2 backups of your /efs folder (if rooted).
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Greetings fellow G-tabbers,
I realize that there are 3rd party apps out there but I'd much rather use the native text messaging application and not a 3rd party app such as Google Voice, Line 2, etc.
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Google Voice is not a 3rd party app, it will completely and natively integrate with your Android stock dialer. If you were on an iOS device it would be terribly clumsy, but not on Android.
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Google Voice is not a 3rd party app, it will completely and natively integrate with your Android stock dialer. If you were on an iOS device it would be terribly clumsy, but not on Android.
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There is no stock android dialer in Honeycomb as it was meant only for tablets and not phones. I thought I saw a thread somewhere in here of people using Google Voice with a third party app to make calls. I think you could also use the Goolge Voice number for texting as there were threads on how to do this in my phones forum when Google Voice first came out. I think Skype will also assign you a static phone number to use if you pay for the service. I would also search the other tabs forums to see if anyone in those has a mod for it to work as a phone off a sim card from a carrier. Personally I would trade it in for the Galaxy Note if I wanted to use it as a phone and tablet.
or check out GrooveIP in play store one of the more popular VOIP/SIP applications, has option for 3G, cant guarantee quality will be the same as regular voice, but Im sure its one of the top 3 out there.
After doing some Googleing and reading up on some GTab 10.1 threads it appears that Honeycomb 3.2 on a GSM tablet should be able to make calls if the carrier supports it. Which TMO doesn't. You could try getting a pre-paid sim card and dropping it in to see if it will work, maybe something like Virgin Mobile. There maybe something in the OS from TMO that may block other sims so not sure how that would work.
After thinking about it the tablet is more than likely locked to TMo and it has to be moded to use anohter carrier, like boost mobile. For phones its a complicated hack getting it on another network. I still think your better off getting the Galaxy Note but then you would have to pay for a second phone line and data plan to use both the tablet and your phone at the same time and then conditionally forward your calls as you suggested.
Hi,
I'm not interested in using my tab to make calls; only to send texts via the native in-built messaging app. I don't want to use other Android apps, just the stock messaging. I am able to do this to great success on Sprint. Sprint is able to go into the backend system and apply conditional call forwarding. Not the case with Tmo.
My main purpose is to NOT miss calls from people who may decide to call via reply to text as that's what appears as my callback number when it's not.
Thanks so much to everyone for your input.
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Hi,
I'm not interested in using my tab to make calls; only to send texts via the native in-built messaging app. I don't want to use other Android apps, just the stock messaging. I am able to do this to great success on Sprint. Sprint is able to go into the backend system and apply conditional call forwarding. Not the case with Tmo.
My main purpose is to NOT miss calls from people who may decide to call via reply to text as that's what appears as my callback number when it's not.
Thanks so much to everyone for your input.
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Sorry to say, but TMO won't support this. They have silly notion that you should buy a separate phone from them if you want to make calls.
still not sure what device you have. this may be worth a shot, although I understand tmobile says its not possible, etc.
http://wiki.howardforums.com/index.php/T-Mobile_Conditional_Call_Forwarding
what is wrong with other messaging apps?, there are usually many on the market which have many more options than stock. just asking.
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Sorry to say, but TMO won't support this. They have silly notion that you should buy a separate phone from them if you want to make calls.
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Hi,
Don't want/need to make calls. I only need for texting, however, if one of my candidate prospects (I am unknown to them at this point) attempts to call me via the link on their phone because of my text from the tablet, it'll ring to a dead number, the tablet number.
I ONLY want the calls to be conditionally call forwarded to my other Tmo cell phone which already has unlimited phone minutes.
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still not sure what device you have. this may be worth a shot, although I understand tmobile says its not possible, etc.
http://wiki.howardforums.com/index.php/T-Mobile_Conditional_Call_Forwarding
what is wrong with other messaging apps?, there are usually many on the market which have many more options than stock. just asking.
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Hi Chris,
The reason I don't want to use other apps is if/when we move to ICS some of those apps may not be compatible for some time until they upgrade. I was burned using a VOIP app (Line 2) which worked very well and suited my needs on my older Gingerbread Tab (HTC EVO View) and when I upgraded to HoneyComb I learned that Line2 won't and never will support HC and I now know that the EVO View tab will not be upgraded to ICS.
I don't want to go there anymore, it severely impacts my ability to get my work done. I'd much rather use the native messaging app. Also because it doesn't use any data to use the native app, if I use an app from the Play Market, I'm likely going to have to use up my data plan and then I am prone to crashing, etc. Unless I am missing something are there any other alternatives?
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Two options:
(1) Sign up for GoogleVoice and port your number to that. This is very easy and will give you full control over where that phone call routes.
(2) Go get a straighttalk SIM ($15) and service ($45, for unlimited) and tell TMO they've lost your business.
Or, do both.
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So I was googling for an answer and my research has come up with absolutely squat to solve my solution. So I am hoping someone here can come up with an answer for me.
I had for the last few phones a bunch of WM phones where they have the option to block my outgoing caller ID to non contacts. I am fully aware that Android offers in the options setting to either block it to all outgoing (which isn't of value because it blocks it also to people who I could care less if they have my number) and the other option to show it to everyone (which I'd rather not some people have my number or it be left on a call log so random people couldn't call back from the phone or employees who I simply dislike not getting my non office number) or the last option to use the standard carrier option which is the same as the last which falls under the same reason.
Does anyone have a solution where I can block my number other than dialing *67 to non contacts to block my number as a standard option that the phone would automatically do like WM used to do?
I don't know if this has any truth to it, but I found this info
I have a Captivate from AT&T. It has the Android OS and it does have a setting to withhold your number from people who are not in your contacts. You go to call settings, all calls, show my number, and choose By network.
With that said, you should be aware that on AT&T's network this only works if you don't update your phone with firmware update 2.1 update 1. AT&T had this function turned off in this update because they want to charge people $2 a month to withhold your number from people that do not have you in their contacts. I found this out the hard way after I updated. I spent all morning talking to tech support for both Samsung and AT&T. Tech support at Samsung told me that it does not say in the release notes for the update that this function was going to be disabled in that update. Samsung also told me that AT&T decides what is in the maintenance updates. AT&T's customer service said I could pay $2 a month for the function and AT&T's tech support said all they can do is revert the phone back to the old firmware. Maybe if enough AT&T customers complain they will have the function turned back on in the next update.
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So it sounds like the Captivate could do it, but then ATT blocked the feature with a firmware update, and offered to give it back for $2/month. I'll keep digging and see if I can find anything else
Have you tried spoofapp? I don't know if caller ID spoofing would be acceptable for your need or not. I've never used it, so I don't know what kind of configuration it would take, but it seems like a hassle. You "place" the call, spoofapp calls you back, when you answer it connects your call with the desired spoofed ID
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I don't know if this has any truth to it, but I found this info
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So it sounds like the Captivate could do it, but then ATT blocked the feature with a firmware update, and offered to give it back for $2/month. I'll keep digging and see if I can find anything else
Have you tried spoofapp? I don't know if caller ID spoofing would be acceptable for your need or not. I've never used it, so I don't know what kind of configuration it would take, but it seems like a hassle. You "place" the call, spoofapp calls you back, when you answer it connects your call with the desired spoofed ID
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yeah I looked at it but you have to pay credits into the thing which means paying on a regular basis. So kind of defeating the purpose of it. I do appreciated the look around for it though. I saw the same post either on here or android central.
Just an FYI, many people, myself included won't answer calls where somebody has blocked their Caller ID. That's why we have Caller ID in the first place, so we know who's calling
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Just an FYI, many people, myself included won't answer calls where somebody has blocked their Caller ID. That's why we have Caller ID in the first place, so we know who's calling
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You miss the point, if you are on the contact list you would be privy to seeing my ID come up anyways. Its people that don't need to have a non work private number that are not deserving of it since you really don't want people from work having the number unless its needed.
phil.W said:
So I was googling for an answer and my research has come up with absolutely squat to solve my solution. So I am hoping someone here can come up with an answer for me.
I had for the last few phones a bunch of WM phones where they have the option to block my outgoing caller ID to non contacts. I am fully aware that Android offers in the options setting to either block it to all outgoing (which isn't of value because it blocks it also to people who I could care less if they have my number) and the other option to show it to everyone (which I'd rather not some people have my number or it be left on a call log so random people couldn't call back from the phone or employees who I simply dislike not getting my non office number) or the last option to use the standard carrier option which is the same as the last which falls under the same reason.
Does anyone have a solution where I can block my number other than dialing *67 to non contacts to block my number as a standard option that the phone would automatically do like WM used to do?
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Make a Google voice account. When you don't want people to have your regular number, call them with GV and they will have that number.
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What is the voice calling capability found in Gmail (on the desktop) called officially? I've been trying to search for solutions for this, but I don't even know what to call it- Google has SO many voice services now (chat, talk, voice, etc) that all sound like the same thing, yet aren't!
Here's what I'm looking to do:
I used the phone call function in Gmail to call abroad a few weeks ago via my laptop. I put about $10 into my balance there because it was cheaper per minute to call outside the US than Skype was. Worked perfectly.
Now, I'm trying to see if I can replace my netbook with a Tablet, so I'm trying to make those same calls from Android. I'll be honest, I'm wishing I had picked Skype to put the $10 credit on! Skype seems pretty straight forward- install it on the android device, make calls. But I've already spent the $10 on Google, so I'd like to find a way to make this work!
I tried going to Gmail from the browser and seeing if there was a link to install an app or something to make calls (like there is on the desktop side of things), but there is nothing there (ok, I didn't really expect it to work like that, but worth a try).
Is this part of a google chat application or something? Or is there no way to use that calling credit on an Android device??
I don't know for sure, but here are two options:
* Change the user agent in your Android browser to "Desktop" and use that interface. Though I am not sure if there will be issues with that.
* Use Google Voice. Which I am pretty sure is part of the same service they are using for Gmail calling. I use this for everything so I can read and send texts from my computer.
Tubes6al4v said:
I don't know for sure, but here are two options:
* Change the user agent in your Android browser to "Desktop" and use that interface. Though I am not sure if there will be issues with that.
* Use Google Voice. Which I am pretty sure is part of the same service they are using for Gmail calling. I use this for everything so I can read and send texts from my computer.
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So, I tried the first one, but it requires a browser plugin to work (which is windows/mac only, so I can't get past that point).
Google Voice sounds like it could be it... but as far as I know, GV on Android doesn't actually let you place calls over IP yet, does it?
I thought it requires you to have a phone number it can call and then connect you via regular cellular minutes to the other party?
The device I'm using for this is a Tablet PC, so there isn't even a cellular radio or phone call system present. I'm trying to determine if I can replace a netbook for all the functions I use it for. This is something I know I can do on the netbook over wifi using the dialer in gmail, so I'd like to know I can do it on the Tablet as well. Does GVoice do that?
It's a paid app, but download GrooVe IP. It's the same thing that you did on your laptop, but with Android.
It is a third party app. But you get free, reliable calling anywhere in the US and get to use Google Voice's cheap international calling plans. [Edit: Over wifi, of course]
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So, I tried the first one, but it requires a browser plugin to work (which is windows/mac only, so I can't get past that point).
Google Voice sounds like it could be it... but as far as I know, GV on Android doesn't actually let you place calls over IP yet, does it?
I thought it requires you to have a phone number it can call and then connect you via regular cellular minutes to the other party?
The device I'm using for this is a Tablet PC, so there isn't even a cellular radio or phone call system present. I'm trying to determine if I can replace a netbook for all the functions I use it for. This is something I know I can do on the netbook over wifi using the dialer in gmail, so I'd like to know I can do it on the Tablet as well. Does GVoice do that?
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the new google talk for android 2.3.4 allows for vid chat (so probably just voice as well), over wifi or 3g. there are ways to get it on 2.3.3 devices, for some devices, maybe not all, don't know. but, i chatted with my buddy from my phone to his pc, so it's definitely a voip service
im doing google voice from my gingerbread phone (EVO 4G) as my primary line... i dont pay a monthly cell phone service... i get picture mail, txt messages, internet, and unlimited cell service.
Pbxes+Google Voice= Unlimited
I have no delay on my phone, it sounds better than sprint when i had it...
the only catch is; u have to have Wifi around... basically everywhere i go its wifi avaliable....
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im doing google voice from my gingerbread phone (EVO 4G) as my primary line... i dont pay a monthly cell phone service... i get picture mail, txt messages, internet, and unlimited cell service.
Pbxes+Google Voice= Unlimited
I have no delay on my phone, it sounds better than sprint when i had it...
the only catch is; u have to have Wifi around... basically everywhere i go its wifi avaliable....
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Is this only Google Voice for Gingerbread that supports that? Or is this a new feature in GV in general? Last I checked they didn't support it...
+1 for GrooveIP. Its much easier than the alternatives imo.
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+1 for GrooveIP. Its much easier than the alternatives imo.
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But if Google Voice has a native app that does this for free, I'm totally game! Nice to know there are choices, tho!
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But if Google Voice has a native app that does this for free, I'm totally game! Nice to know there are choices, tho!
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No, Google Voice does not do what GrooveIP does. When you have no cell coverage or lose cell coverage GV will drop your call or not place it, defeating the point. Even though you are on wifi you cannot place a call with GV w/o cell coverage. With GrooveIP you dont have to have cell coverage, you dont even need a sim.
I'm trying out this Groove IP right now. I must say I'm impressed by the call quality and the seemless functionality of the program. Not a huge fan of the constant notification, but I can live with it. OP it sounds like you should use this program, it's 3.99 in the market but boy is it worth it!
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im doing google voice from my gingerbread phone (EVO 4G) as my primary line... i dont pay a monthly cell phone service... i get picture mail, txt messages, internet, and unlimited cell service.
Pbxes+Google Voice= Unlimited
I have no delay on my phone, it sounds better than sprint when i had it...
the only catch is; u have to have Wifi around... basically everywhere i go its wifi avaliable....
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I setup pbxes + google voice and it seems to work most of the time. I'm interested to know how you are getting picture mail though - I thought googlevoice only supported txt messages.
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I'm trying out this Groove IP right now. I must say I'm impressed by the call quality and the seemless functionality of the program. Not a huge fan of the constant notification, but I can live with it. OP it sounds like you should use this program, it's 3.99 in the market but boy is it worth it!
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You can turn off the notification in the settings :]
And OP, Android 2.3+ has built in support for SIP addresses. You register with a provider online, and they'll route your calls. It's a bit more complicated to set up, and typically costs (But sites like PBXes will give them out for free if you use them at least once a month). You typically get a US number and can set that up with Google Voice. Apps like csipsimple and sipdroid are alternatives for supporting SIP if you don't have Android 2.3+
I suggested GrooVe IP because it's a 1 step setup (Login with your Google account and you're done), and is identical quality to the calling through Gmail because there's no middleman. It's certainly possible to set it up for free using SIP instead, and there are some great guides on google.
I am getting picture mail because: I had a Google voice number before I got me Sprint number. Then I migrated my Sprint # to my Google voice acct.
Since then my Sprint service was disconnected because I recently lost my job, so I decided since I was out of contract anyway i'll say forget Sprint and use my Google voice acct. But back to how I got picture mail, when they disconnected my Sprint acct they didn't disconnect the Sprint number because it migrated over to my Google voice.
So when I call my Sprint number it forwards it to my GV number... But to get picture mail (keep in mind my Sprint acct has been disconnected for like a month) u have to have mobile network always on, and have wifi connected at the same time, if someone sends me a picture mail it'll come thru but I can't download the picture (not by Sprint network), but since I have wifi on it'll download the picture for me (Sprint can't officially cancel the number because u migrated over to GV, so now its your number for good. The only catch u can't respond to the picture mail and u can only respond thru the Google voice app.
Back in April sipdroid gave people a way to merge pbxes & Google voice... So since I upgraded to gingerbread, I no longer use sipdroid and I use the built-in internet call feature in gingerbread...
So I have service like everyone else with no problem, just no 3g or 4G service, all wifi on my phone.... Plus I can use my Bluetooth with my phone with no problem...
Hopefully talk understood that, if not PM me and i'll try to break it down...
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So, my dad uses a Droid X2. However, he's been considering ditching his phone for a 7" 3g/4g tablet, and using it as his "phone" with a bluetooth headset.
While this isn't something I'd do, i think its a pretty cool idea. Only thing is, if he were to do this, he'd need to be able to call (skype or similar, no prob) and text.
I thought you could do it with skype, but apparently not...
https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA...e-number-when-sending-SMS-messages-from-Skype
I also know there are third party texting services, but i have no experiences wiht them, i have no idea what's good or not.
So, my real question is - is there any way to be able to call and text from an android tablet using the same phone number?
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So, my dad uses a Droid X2. However, he's been considering ditching his phone for a 7" 3g/4g tablet, and using it as his "phone" with a bluetooth headset.
While this isn't something I'd do, i think its a pretty cool idea. Only thing is, if he were to do this, he'd need to be able to call (skype or similar, no prob) and text.
I thought you could do it with skype, but apparently not...
https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA...e-number-when-sending-SMS-messages-from-Skype
I also know there are third party texting services, but i have no experiences wiht them, i have no idea what's good or not.
So, my real question is - is there any way to be able to call and text from an android tablet using the same phone number?
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I know you can call from Skype as well as send texts. I'm not certain about texting from Skype on the mobile device, though. He could use a combination of What's App for texting and Google Voice for calls.
huh. can you tie the two phone numbers together?
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huh. can you tie the two phone numbers together?
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What do you mean? Can one device have two phone numbers? No, not from a carrier. You can have one number from a wireless carrier, a Google Voice number, and a Skype number all going to the same device, though.
The only way a single device can get two cellular numbers is if it has two SIM slots.
No, no, i was saying, can you make your skype number and your watsapp-assigned number into the same phone number?
so someone can call or text you using the same number.
There is an app called viber that will assign you the same number for calls and texts. It is the best quality as far as the voip calling goes, and it was just updated so you can send picture messages as well.
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No, no, i was saying, can you make your skype number and your watsapp-assigned number into the same phone number?
so someone can call or text you using the same number.
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Oh, no. You can't do that. You could just use Google Voice. It does voice and text messages as well as voicemail.
@ lowandbehold - perfect! except for the fact that you (apparently) can't contact anyone who doesn't have viber? That makes it a no-no.
@ cajunflavoredbob - I've heard people say that, but well, look at the attachment, this is voice on my vortex, where is it?
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@ lowandbehold - perfect! except for the fact that you (apparently) can't contact anyone who doesn't have viber? That makes it a no-no.
@ cajunflavoredbob - I've heard people say that, but well, look at the attachment, this is voice on my vortex, where is it?
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You have a dedicated GV number that people can send texts to. I don't personally use GV, but The Google Voice home page specifically lists text messages as being free with the GV app.
*googles*
i see that.... but i can't access it.....
and i'm sure you understand that i can't tell someone to buy something to replace their (crucial for day to day life) cell phone with something that i can't prove will work - in fact i have evidence to the contrary.
So, could someone here with a 3g/4g tab or a wifi only android device confirm that you can, if fact, use the google voice app to send/receive calls and texts using your google voice phone number? that'll make/break the deal right there.
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*googles*
i see that.... but i can't access it.....
and i'm sure you understand that i can't tell someone to buy something to replace their (crucial for day to day life) cell phone with something that i can't prove will work - in fact i have evidence to the contrary.
So, could someone here with a 3g/4g tab or a wifi only android device confirm that you can, if fact, use the google voice app to send/receive calls and texts using your google voice phone number? that'll make/break the deal right there.
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Did you log in to your Google Voice account online and choose a number? Can't send a text if you don't pick a phone number first. Once you choose a number from the settings panel in the website, simply log in to your GV app on your device, hit menu, then compose. It literally took me three minutes to send a text from the GV app to myself after getting a number set up.
I think this number will be handy for giving to women that I'd rather not talk to again after a hard night drinking...
I have a Google voice number, that's different from my cell number.
There is no "compose" anywhere on the app. pressing menu brings up Refresh, Search, Labels, Balance, Settings, and More. More brings up Help and Send feedback.
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I have a Google voice number, that's different from my cell number.
There is no "compose" anywhere on the app. pressing menu brings up Refresh, Search, Labels, Balance, Settings, and More. More brings up Help and Send feedback.
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Go to Labels > Text. Then hit Menu > Compose.
This might be redundant, but I'm covering all the bases. Keep in mind that when you download the app, Google only gives you a voicemail number. The app alone does not provide a GV number. You don't get the calling/texting number until you log into the website on a PC browser. You then go to the settings icon in the top right side of the page and choose a number for Google Voice. Once that is done, the app will update itself next time you launch it. You might need to go to Menu > Labels > Text (SMS) in order to send a message. Send a message by hitting the menu button while in the inbox and then tapping Compose. Fill in the contact name and message text and hit send.
ah, that's it. i can't used the number that google provided me with, i have to choose a new google voice number. the one google provided me with is no good, apparently. its working now, many thanks.
mtmerrick said:
ah, that's it. i can't used the number that google provided me with, i have to choose a new google voice number. the one google provided me with is no good, apparently. its working now, many thanks.
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Heh. I figured that was it. Almost everyone seems to have trouble with that part. It would be nice if Google explained that part a little bit better, eh? Anyway, that should be everything you're looking for in a replacement app. I know that texting is free, but I'm not sure if or how much calls cost. I only know for sure that international calls cost a bit. It's cheaper than Skype either way.
US to US calls are free with google voice, i know that much
you've been a huge help, any chance you could help with the other half of the crossover?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1302560
interesting thread
Hi guys, after the Hangouts Google Voice merge, I've been highly tempted to port my number over to Google Voice. The main thing that attracts my attention is how all my texts will be stored on the cloud so I won't have to constantly backup and restore when flashing different ROMs (approx. once a week). What do you guys think on this? I'm hesitating right now due to the $20 fee and that if I send an MMS picture, it shows up as a link on the other side. Also, I tried calling using my current GVoice number, and my mom said its not as clear. Do you guys think it'll be worth it?
ryukiri said:
Hi guys, after the Hangouts Google Voice merge, I've been highly tempted to port my number over to Google Voice. The main thing that attracts my attention is how all my texts will be stored on the cloud so I won't have to constantly backup and restore when flashing different ROMs (approx. once a week). What do you guys think on this? I'm hesitating right now due to the $20 fee and that if I send an MMS picture, it shows up as a link on the other side. Also, I tried calling using my current GVoice number, and my mom said its not as clear. Do you guys think it'll be worth it?
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As far as the call quality of using the Hangouts Dialer/your Google Voice number vs. regular calls- at least over WiFi I noticed a difference, but not so much that it interfered with the call or understanding the person on the other end, for me. Haven't tried it over normal LTE data at this point.
I've used Google Voice for a long time (since my Evo 4G days, even a little before that) and having all my texts backed up was one of the big draws. I don't use Google+ Hangouts, so I also can't speak to text backups there but if your experience is that your texts are there and waiting for you right now, I can't imagine that would change.
So, in my estimation, it kind of depends on what you want more: backups vs. call quality. I don't make a lot of calls, so I'm more on the side of texting and having a single number that I can then use for multiple lines, but that's just me. Hope some of this helped!
I find the call quality to be good, the big issue is you don't get HD Voice. So if your mom is on T-Mobile with an HD Voice capable phone you will get HD Voice when making a regular T-Mobile call with your Nexus 5, while the Hangouts calling is just a standard voice quality level. I had no issue using it over LTE, but I haven't tried 3G. I would think an Edge area would definitely give you a problem.
Keep in mind that you can always continue to use the call forwarding feature rather than the VOIP functionality. This won't solve the issue of no HD voice, but it will work in Edge areas without issue.
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As far as the call quality of using the Hangouts Dialer/your Google Voice number vs. regular calls- at least over WiFi I noticed a difference, but not so much that it interfered with the call or understanding the person on the other end, for me. Haven't tried it over normal LTE data at this point.
I've used Google Voice for a long time (since my Evo 4G days, even a little before that) and having all my texts backed up was one of the big draws. I don't use Google+ Hangouts, so I also can't speak to text backups there but if your experience is that your texts are there and waiting for you right now, I can't imagine that would change.
So, in my estimation, it kind of depends on what you want more: backups vs. call quality. I don't make a lot of calls, so I'm more on the side of texting and having a single number that I can then use for multiple lines, but that's just me. Hope some of this helped!
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I find the call quality to be good, the big issue is you don't get HD Voice. So if your mom is on T-Mobile with an HD Voice capable phone you will get HD Voice when making a regular T-Mobile call with your Nexus 5, while the Hangouts calling is just a standard voice quality level. I had no issue using it over LTE, but I haven't tried 3G. I would think an Edge area would definitely give you a problem.
Keep in mind that you can always continue to use the call forwarding feature rather than the VOIP functionality. This won't solve the issue of no HD voice, but it will work in Edge areas without issue.
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Thanks for the replies! Is HD voice a big difference compared to normal? My mom had a Moto X FYI. Can you explain more on call forwarding? I don't know how it works or what it is. Does it forward a call from your GVoice number to your regular Sim card number? If that's the case, will there be a delay?
ryukiri said:
I'm hesitating right now due to the $20 fee ...
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You can avoid $20 fee by porting to Ring.to then have Ring.to forward to Google Voice totally free of charge. :highfive:
ryukiri said:
Thanks for the replies! Is HD voice a big difference compared to normal? My mom had a Moto X FYI. Can you explain more on call forwarding? I don't know how it works or what it is. Does it forward a call from your GVoice number to your regular Sim card number? If that's the case, will there be a delay?
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Yeah, you can set it up to forward calls to your SIM number instead of using VoIP. I imagine there is a slight delay for the call to forward but there's no delay while speaking. The call gets forwarded so it is actually handed off from Google Voice to your carrier, just like when your phone forwards to voicemail.
ryukiri said:
Hi guys, after the Hangouts Google Voice merge, I've been highly tempted to port my number over to Google Voice. The main thing that attracts my attention is how all my texts will be stored on the cloud so I won't have to constantly backup and restore when flashing different ROMs (approx. once a week). What do you guys think on this? I'm hesitating right now due to the $20 fee and that if I send an MMS picture, it shows up as a link on the other side. Also, I tried calling using my current GVoice number, and my mom said its not as clear. Do you guys think it'll be worth it?
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I would like to add a few things.
First off, remember that if you opt in for the Hangouts and Google Voice integration, the text messages will be stored in the Hangouts application, and not Google Voice. It is a plus to have the messages backed up, but I wouldn't say that was the winner for me.
The winner for me is being able to send SMS messages from the Hangouts extension for Chrome Browser on my work PC, or any other PC/Laptop for that matter. Everything is consolidated now in one app. Whereas before I would use the Google Voice extension to text, Hangouts is just nicer to use. More functional. Better user interface.
I ported my number a while back from Sprint, and I'm a Tmo subscriber as well. A few words of caution: the biggest drawback is MMS, or lack thereof. For me, I don't really use it. I send all pics and MMS content through Hangouts already. What bugs me is when people send me MMS content to my Google Voice number, and I'm never aware of it, since I can't receive it. (I can get MMS from other Tmo subscribers though).
Since I travel a lot internationally, it's nice being able to use your same number for texting and calling over data. If you make your Google Voice number your primary number, that's another perk.
I use Skype as my main calling app. (I have a yearly subscription with them to make unlimited calls to landlines and mobile in the U.S.). When I need to, I make calls through Tmo. As stated before, don't expect to be able to make calls over data if you're on EDGE. Even 3G might be skeptical. If you've got 1Mbps down/up speeds, you'll be all right. Use speedtest to check out your data speeds where you plan on making calls over data.
Overall I would recommend it. I didn't mind the $20 bucks. If you're on a budget, look into alternative means of porting, as stated above. Any other questions, ask away.
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I would like to add a few things.
First off, remember that if you opt in for the Hangouts and Google Voice integration, the text messages will be stored in the Hangouts application, and not Google Voice. It is a plus to have the messages backed up, but I wouldn't say that was the winner for me.
The winner for me is being able to send SMS messages from the Hangouts extension for Chrome Browser on my work PC, or any other PC/Laptop for that matter. Everything is consolidated now in one app. Whereas before I would use the Google Voice extension to text, Hangouts is just nicer to use. More functional. Better user interface.
I ported my number a while back from Sprint, and I'm a Tmo subscriber as well. A few words of caution: the biggest drawback is MMS, or lack thereof. For me, I don't really use it. I send all pics and MMS content through Hangouts already. What bugs me is when people send me MMS content to my Google Voice number, and I'm never aware of it, since I can't receive it. (I can get MMS from other Tmo subscribers though).
Since I travel a lot internationally, it's nice being able to use your same number for texting and calling over data. If you make your Google Voice number your primary number, that's another perk.
I use Skype as my main calling app. (I have a yearly subscription with them to make unlimited calls to landlines and mobile in the U.S.). When I need to, I make calls through Tmo. As stated before, don't expect to be able to make calls over data if you're on EDGE. Even 3G might be skeptical. If you've got 1Mbps down/up speeds, you'll be all right. Use speedtest to check out your data speeds where you plan on making calls over data.
Overall I would recommend it. I didn't mind the $20 bucks. If you're on a budget, look into alternative means of porting, as stated above. Any other questions, ask away.
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OK thanks! So one question regarding SMS, I already opted in for them to show up on hangouts. I'm pretty sure that even after I factory reset my phone, my texts will still be I'm hangouts after I log in and everything. Is that correct? My texts won't disappear after a full wipe or anything? (Texts are stored on the cloud rather than physically on the device right?)
Yeah I love that feature of being able to text from a computer also. Its very convenient.
Hopefully MMS gets fixed soon, I don't use it much but every once in a while, my friend sends me pictures.
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OK thanks! So one question regarding SMS, I already opted in for them to show up on hangouts. I'm pretty sure that even after I factory reset my phone, my texts will still be I'm hangouts after I log in and everything. Is that correct? My texts won't disappear after a full wipe or anything? (Texts are stored on the cloud rather than physically on the device right?)
Yeah I love that feature of being able to text from a computer also. Its very convenient.
Hopefully MMS gets fixed soon, I don't use it much but every once in a while, my friend sends me pictures.
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I believe, but I am not sure, that SMS are only stored in cloud storage if they are from/to your Google Voice number. I think that texts that are sent to your carrier number are not backed up.
If you port your current telephone # to GV, T-Mobile will automatically cancel your current account. It does not automatically reassign a random number to your account once you port your mobile # out.
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If you port your current telephone # to GV, T-Mobile will automatically cancel your current account. It does not automatically reassign a random number to your account once you port your mobile # out.
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Can we just go to a store and do it there? Like port the # to GV, and then have them assign another one to my phone?
Hey OnePlus fam,
I just thought I would put this out as PSA for anyone on Verizon and having issues with SMS or MMS, as there is little information out there on this for our specific phones.
If you are unable to send or receive any text messages it is most like that the "CDMA-Less" feature needs to be activated.
You can call Verizon and ask them to enable "CDMA-Less" to your account.
Hope this helps
I had to get a new sim card that fixed my problem
Here are also a few links too; the first two are for a 6T but to concept still applies.
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/no-incoming-sms-or-mms-on-verizon.935610/
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/verizon-text-messages.937506/
VZW information
https://opendevelopment.verizonwireless.com/faqs?s=LTE
Had the same issue.
Called Verizon and asked them to enable this device as CDMA-less.
Been working perfect since.
Same here. I inserted my Verizon sim in the international version. Data at 50Mbps, Voice, Visual Voicemail and outgoing text messages worked. If it doesn't work for you, make sure you are using slot 1. It may matter. If you have a very old sim, you might need a new one.
I called Verizon and carefully explained that incoming sms was not functional as this was a next generation phone for a world where Verizon turns off their CDMA at the end of 2019 and SMS is routed over LTE. I instructed him to make sure "CDMA-less" was available both in the billing account and the network account. After a bit of digging he found the provisioning settings. Seconds after the phone was provisioned, sms started flooding in the stock message app. Also make sure IMS Basic Visual Voicemail is on your account if VM is giving you trouble. I use VZW Message+ (Verizon Messages) for sms as I can text from a PC also and it will restore previous sms.
By definition the phone uses VOLTE so there is no setting for HD Voice in the phone. That feature is required on your Verizon account but you would have to be switching from an ancient phone not to already have that. I cannot locate any option for Wifi calling and it does not work in airplane mode. I have a google voice number which allows Wifi calling. Interestingly it errors when the phone is in airplane mode but works when cell service is on. It reports "Wifi Call" and appears to use the stock dialer when initiated from the Voice app. Somehow Voice is even more tightly integrated with the stock dialer now than just trapping and routing international calls. This is a bug of sorts as my Moto phone on 8.0 could call in airplane mode with wifi on.
Google Duo appears to be integrated in the dialer but I haven't tried with my wife's Pixel to see if I can switch to Duo while on a regular voice call.
Bootloader unlock was simple: Tap Build # 6x, Developer Options - OEM unlocking, adb reboot recovery, fastboot oem unlock [This erases the phone]
The 7 Pro is an amazing device! Truly the most amazing. I'm really excited. The phone is super super slippery and a drop magnet. It does come with a TPU case.
I'm going to sell my kid's mint 5T and upgrade him too!
BT sucks worse than the Moto phone but I think that is an Android thing as my wife's pixel as issues to with her car. Contacts not syncing and calls not going through while connected to BT. Just have to do work arounds when I have some time.
Hoping video is fixed for the wide camera. They are amazing; but then, I'm coming from a Moto phone which has the worst cameras. Sony knows what they are doing.
Sorry to wake an old thread but did not want to start a new one.
I have verizon and have cdma-less provisioning done already. Have HD voice on the account as well. SMS works fine but I can only send MMS not receive them.
Ive tried moving sim card to other slot, tried reboot, tried factory reset, tried different apps...nothing.
The only time MMS fully works is when I am in safe mode. Anyone have any ideas on what it could be?
Thank you
Try looking in permissions at what app has permissions.
Try the Verizon message plus app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.verizon.messaging.vzmsgs
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Try looking in permissions at what app has permissions.
Try the Verizon message plus app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.verizon.messaging.vzmsgs
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Permissions were all good, sms/mms permission is in one.
I tried verizon app, MMS works, dont really like the app though, and the customization didnt help me like it enough to keep it.
Super weird that verizon messages work but not the stock app or the Mood SMS app.
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Permissions were all good, sms/mms permission is in one.
I tried verizon app, MMS works, dont really like the app though, and the customization didnt help me like it enough to keep it.
Super weird that verizon messages work but not the stock app or the Mood SMS app.
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I had to call Verizon 2 or 3 times for them to get it right
I downloaded a couple other SMS apps and they all work fine. So leads me to believe its just something weird with the stock app and with Mood SMS. I will switch to QKSMS for now and requested assistance from Mood SMS so they could take a look. Thanks all.
I'm going to guess MMS didn't work with that app while you were on wifi? Some apps don't know how to route MMS data properly when there both data and wifi available.
It's an option that has to be enabled on the account for Verizon customers, it's the cdma-less option. It took me a couple representatives til one of knew what I was talking about lol
I think his issue is slightly different as he can recieve sms but not mms and it varies on the app he's using.
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I'm going to guess MMS didn't work with that app while you were on wifi? Some apps don't know how to route MMS data properly when there both data and wifi available.
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No that I already checked. I still have not figured out why I cannot receive MMS on the stock app or on mood SMS. Mood had not replied to my email. I switched to qksms and have no issues anymore.
So ya if anyone else runs into something like I did, try different SMS apps
Yup, I learned this very quickly when I got the OnePlus 6t. Just getting them to understand that the phone was certified on VZW. Then 4 techs before one knew what to do. I think they now can address quickly even over chat.
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It's an option that has to be enabled on the account for Verizon customers, it's the cdma-less option. It took me a couple representatives til one of knew what I was talking about lol
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If I get Verizon prepaid will they be able to do this? I had Verizon prepaid once in the past and customer service was much worse than regular Verizon wireless. I am pretty sure that mvnos can't do it but I'm hoping Verizon prepaid can.
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If I get Verizon prepaid will they be able to do this? I had Verizon prepaid once in the past and customer service was much worse than regular Verizon wireless. I am pretty sure that mvnos can't do it but I'm hoping Verizon prepaid can.
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I'm not sure
Yeah, there's a lot more to this than enabling CDMA-less. Before about a month ago data/sms/MMS wasn't working on Android 10 based custom roms and MMS still doesn't work unless you use Messages+.
I get both fine I just have issues with them being received after the phone goes idle for a while. My issues are small stupid crap mile messenger not closing with home button all the time and and Gboard sometimes won't type into the field I'm in