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I disabled touch flo 3d right away because it seems like pointless eye candy. It seems like a sloppy rough integration that is a greater impedance than an assistant. Or is it just me
Have you modified it with the tweaks to enhance the performance? All it is is really just another shell, your preference there.
its the first thing i disabled. in my opinion its pretty darn ugly...except for the weather thing, its kind of cute. but i like having all my stuff on the home screen where i can see it all at once
As you can see, you are clearly outvoted. They had the same poll over at ppcgeeks (How many are still using TouchFlo3D) and of the 320 people who participated,80% were still using it.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=482651
TF3D brings an essential level of style to Windows Mobile.
Surur
Style, schmile!
If I wanted style I'd have the Jesus phone that Apple makes - with one of the great cases from Vaja.
Instead, I want to look at my screen and gain information. On my day, on the stock market, on the weather and on the number of messages I am currently blowing off.
I too liked the weather bit. I also appreciated that TF3D goes a good job at memory management. Maybe when I get the time to learn how to customize it, I'll return to TF3D.
For now, though it is back to WinMob running Pocket Breeze in full screen mode with panels for pA and Pocket Weather.
I really like it. It gives me access to what I need to see when I glance at the screen (except tasks) and finger-touch access to programs.
It does screw up maybe once a day though requiring a soft reset. I applied the mods recommended and they made my TP freeze a lot so I changed them back to default.
It's actually a great enhancement to WM. almost everything that needs to be readily accessible is "touchable" no need to get irritated and use the tip of my nail to make sure I press it just right. Even the corner X close button works almost flawlessly because the screen touch area is now flush.
I know there has been some whining but this really is the best match, easy touch interface for the simple phone stuff, and the ability to use a keyboard and a stylus for things that just aren't feasable to use efficiently with a finger on a touch screen.
I'm a very happy camper with the Fuze... well except for that ****ing GPS crap.
I'd also like to add that I think most of us really created and adapted ways to be able to not use the touchscreen for a lot of things, and with good reason considering how much I hate using a stylus to navigate a UI. So I think a ton of us bring a certain baggage about using our fingers because it just really did always suck that bad. Which thanks to HTC it really doesn't now. Plus this screen may not be like the capacitive Iphone but man it's definitely a lot smoother, the word "silky" comes to mind with how it feels compared to my Tytn.
I'm not sure which one of the 2 voting options is meant to be good
Some people are just afraid of change. As there still millions of windows 98 users out there. LMAO, people need to move with the times
Touchflo3d is indeed the most beautiful interface I've ever seen. It remained for about one month on my mobile phone. After that I still installed pocket plus (the program who puts icons dirrectly on screen and used only one tab in which I put all my programs).
Reason 1: functionality. It takes several moves in TF3D to do simple tasks. For example if I am in the home screen I cannot start with a single click an app. I have to scroll (and be quite carrefull to go in the desired position) and after that start a program etc. Imagine if in Windows you would be forced to use start, programs every time if you wanted to use an program...it'll kill you. That's why we activate programs by clicking the icon on the screen after all...it's the fastest way. All in all, to be clear, if it would be a contest between a TF3D and a Pocket Plus-type of program, everytime the pocket plus device will "click" the application faster, while in TF3D depends on where TAB are you..
Reason 2: familiarity with Windows way of activating programs. As I said before it's more simple for me to simply activate the icon on screen and not bother with some paradigm of displaying emails or SMS (and related to that, do you want to be able that someone can take a look at your info by simply scrolling to that tab? I don't)
Reason 3 -not quite a reason, but a proof that this a better interface in my opinion: the simple-icon-on-display type of interface is actually validated by the Iphone which we all know as a beautiful device at least.
I like Touchflo3d, but I missed my usual today screen setup.
The easy answer is to use secondtoday, that way I get the best of both worlds, one tap on the screen switches between them.
Gigs said:
Touchflo3d is indeed the most beautiful interface I've ever seen. It remained for about one month on my mobile phone. After that I still installed pocket plus (the program who puts icons dirrectly on screen and used only one tab in which I put all my programs).
Reason 1: functionality. It takes several moves in TF3D to do simple tasks. For example if I am in the home screen I cannot start with a single click an app. I have to scroll (and be quite carrefull to go in the desired position) and after that start a program etc. Imagine if in Windows you would be forced to use start, programs every time if you wanted to use an program...it'll kill you. That's why we activate programs by clicking the icon on the screen after all...it's the fastest way. All in all, to be clear, if it would be a contest between a TF3D and a Pocket Plus-type of program, everytime the pocket plus device will "click" the application faster, while in TF3D depends on where TAB are you..
Reason 2: familiarity with Windows way of activating programs. As I said before it's more simple for me to simply activate the icon on screen and not bother with some paradigm of displaying emails or SMS (and related to that, do you want to be able that someone can take a look at your info by simply scrolling to that tab? I don't)
Reason 3 -not quite a reason, but a proof that this a better interface in my opinion: the simple-icon-on-display type of interface is actually validated by the Iphone which we all know as a beautiful device at least.
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Pocket Plus sound like exactly what I need!
nuke1 said:
I'm not sure which one of the 2 voting options is meant to be good
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Bunk = bad and handy gooey is handy GUI or handy Graphical User Interface
migsims said:
It's actually a great enhancement to WM. almost everything that needs to be readily accessible is "touchable" no need to get irritated and use the tip of my nail to make sure I press it just right. Even the corner X close button works almost flawlessly because the screen touch area is now flush.
I know there has been some whining but this really is the best match, easy touch interface for the simple phone stuff, and the ability to use a keyboard and a stylus for things that just aren't feasable to use efficiently with a finger on a touch screen.
I'm a very happy camper with the Fuze... well except for that ****ing GPS crap.
I'd also like to add that I think most of us really created and adapted ways to be able to not use the touchscreen for a lot of things, and with good reason considering how much I hate using a stylus to navigate a UI. So I think a ton of us bring a certain baggage about using our fingers because it just really did always suck that bad. Which thanks to HTC it really doesn't now. Plus this screen may not be like the capacitive Iphone but man it's definitely a lot smoother, the word "silky" comes to mind with how it feels compared to my Tytn.
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maybe thats why I'm having so much trouble with the touch screen. I tap something,,,, wait 5 seconds,,, tap again,,,, wait 6 seconds then give up and get out the stylus. Maybe I should re-enable touchflo to stop this problem
surur said:
As you can see, you are clearly outvoted. They had the same poll over at ppcgeeks (How many are still using TouchFlo3D) and of the 320 people who participated,80% were still using it.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?p=482651
TF3D brings an essential level of style to Windows Mobile.
Surur
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Thats interesting. Thanks for the link. Maybe I should give touchflo 3D a another shot.
chetmichaels said:
its the first thing i disabled. in my opinion its pretty darn ugly...except for the weather thing, its kind of cute. but i like having all my stuff on the home screen where i can see it all at once
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Me too. Thats why I copied and pasted the links that are in folders within the program folder back up to the program folder. I like having everything in 1 spot. I wish it was alphabetized though.
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Have you modified it with the tweaks to enhance the performance? All it is is really just another shell, your preference there.
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Performance wasn't really the issue for me. It just seemed like pointless eye candy.
James, you'll really find SPB Pocket Plus really nice. The thing with it is to remove all the tabs, as they really only generate useless clicks to navigate where your program is, and in final squeeze in one tab only the icons you need. I have 3x5 icons(with no text and large size enabled) and if I really think some of them I don't really need - like powerpoint and so on.To give an exameple this is what I consider usefull:Comunication Manager, Resco Explorer, HTC Album, Igo, Camera, Excel, Word, Coreplayer, sms, activesync,radio, opera, 1-calc (a very nice calculator) and notes. And supplimentary I have enabled the calendar and date plugins in today screen. This is a very nice setup - eficient - and if you set a non transparent background, very nice, kinda stylish look. Now, I have seen that you complained about precision of tapping - beware that in the margins and corners of display you'll have sometimes to get out the stylus. Give that pocket plus a try.It really made my days.
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Have you modified it with the tweaks to enhance the performance? All it is is really just another shell, your preference there.
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Care to share those kareem?
jamespaulritter said:
I disabled touch flo 3d right away because it seems like pointless eye candy. It seems like a sloppy rough integration that is a greater impedance than an assistant. Or is it just me
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Definitely NOT at all. We must be on different spectrum of the universe. I like TF3D a great deal, make navigating the phone intuitive and seamless. It is just you.
Without TF3D, my Sprint TP would just be any other run of the mill Win Mobile big screen phone. My 39 cents.
TF3D is totally kickass! I love it for everything. Althought I do wish they had the map intergration that they have in TF2D. I also want the stocks tab and am waiting for the hd manilla to be perfected . Other than that, the original htc theme, with q-style font, my personalized background, tweaks from diamond config, and stock fuze rom, it runs pretty darm fast. Only did a soft reset once and that waas because I was attempting to run a qvga application and it crashed.
Gigs said:
James, you'll really find SPB Pocket Plus really nice. The thing with it is to remove all the tabs, as they really only generate useless clicks to navigate where your program is, and in final squeeze in one tab only the icons you need. I have 3x5 icons(with no text and large size enabled) and if I really think some of them I don't really need - like powerpoint and so on.To give an exameple this is what I consider usefull:Comunication Manager, Resco Explorer, HTC Album, Igo, Camera, Excel, Word, Coreplayer, sms, activesync,radio, opera, 1-calc (a very nice calculator) and notes. And supplimentary I have enabled the calendar and date plugins in today screen. This is a very nice setup - eficient - and if you set a non transparent background, very nice, kinda stylish look. Now, I have seen that you complained about precision of tapping - beware that in the margins and corners of display you'll have sometimes to get out the stylus. Give that pocket plus a try.It really made my days.
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I agree. Let's not turn into a bunch of iPhone cattle. They stick to their phones like cult even when plagued with numerous problems.
Get SPB mobile. It blows TFTD out of the water.
dgduris said:
Style, schmile!
If I wanted style I'd have the Jesus phone that Apple makes - with one of the great cases from Vaja.
Instead, I want to look at my screen and gain information. On my day, on the stock market, on the weather and on the number of messages I am currently blowing off.
I too liked the weather bit. I also appreciated that TF3D goes a good job at memory management. Maybe when I get the time to learn how to customize it, I'll return to TF3D.
For now, though it is back to WinMob running Pocket Breeze in full screen mode with panels for pA and Pocket Weather.
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I didn't know the Lord makes phones
Back to the subject, it's all a personal preference. I think it's great, and makes the phone a lot more fun and a little easier to use, you don't, but nobody is right or wrong on this one.
ababrekar said:
Care to share those kareem?
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They are stickied in the Raphael subforum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=413562
BTW I have been using TFL3D since when I got my TP in August. SPB Shell seems outdated now but I have it installed anyway, accessible via Second Today
post em'. new ideas guys, let me hear it..
I've been rather inactive on the forums lately (life is catching up with me ), and reading through a hundred extra pages doesn't seem logically fathomable for me to do.
A contacts app that matches the dialer app on the H build would be nice. But as far as usefull i cant think of anything right now.
The ability to shoot lasers.
well i upgraded myself from touchpro to g1 and one thing that i really miss is Flash player support and equalizers in music player.
guys pls do them. and i think that my voice will be echoed by many.
hoping that we will beat iphone iconic status one day as this plateform as enormous poential
thanks
I would really like widgets ...Weather Stocks...and such
any feature we want? how about if we tap the edge of the screen, a little virticle bar comes up on the side of the screen where we can control volume, and maybe on the other side of the screen, a bar to adjust the brightness. would be convenient, but there are volume buttons on the side of the phone lol, but still, some apps don't change the appropriate volume.
how about a seem edit to make the phone a little louder? i'm sure that it can get much louder. i dont know how throughly you can edit these builds.
will add stuff later.
Multitouch!
I second that.... multi-touch, at least in browser, hopefully in maps as well.
Umm H build is perfect lol, but umm adding the multitouch code to the browser wont hurt.
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well i upgraded myself from touchpro to g1 and one thing that i really miss is Flash player support and equalizers in music player.
guys pls do them. and i think that my voice will be echoed by many.
hoping that we will beat iphone iconic status one day as this plateform as enormous poential
thanks
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THIS IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN UNTIL ADOBE RELEASES SOMETHING. I don't think haykuro is offering to make new programs for you. Don't be stupid. He's asking you what he can do to the builds to make them better. For an example, like somebody mentioned a GOOD IDEA and SOMETHING HE CAN DO: MULTITOUCH. Because he can modify a few files and somebody has already done it in a previous build, thus he can do it in this build. Correct me if I'm wrong. My heck people, enough whining for things like Flash Players. Don't you think that if it was so easy to do, it would have been done before? Haven't you morons figured out that having a GOOGLE phone, you could simply use GOOGLE for searching? Wow, that's a crazy idea, right? Using Google? Half you numbskulls could find what you're actually complaining about if you used it.
If you loved your HTC Pro blah blah blah whatever the crap it was, use that phone and stop complaining and asking for things that aren't going to happen until Adobe comes out with it. Go bug Adobe for it. Or Google. No developer is going to do it for you.
use the HTC VK as the default
focus on fixing the background noise during calls
multitouch would be awesome
i will update with more later...
@ankjain
Boy... I would like Flash too... lets hope Adobe pulls through with it's promise
this is a for fix for an issue I have not found elsewhere.
I have noticed with Bluetooth enabled listening to my A2DP headset (Plantronics A590)although the buttons on the headset work, they automatically start up the default music app when pressed... even if I am using another app.... So currently I am forced to use either the default music app, or use the controls on the phone not the headset.
Some sort of built in setting (like in open home or DXtop) to be able to select from multiple themes and icon sets and the ability to hide them in the drawer like open home.
an app switcher that can be re-located to the bar like in the app bar-control or can be used with a button combo.
Thanks for all of your hard work, I am very satisfied being able to use build currently... fixes are always welcome and improvements are a bonus
Bring back some how the
"Myfavs"
Zoom on browser
More widgets.
try fixing the quality of the pictures displayed when receiving a call... they are very pixelated
Hi Guys,
Is it possible to get HD2's Sense UI on android 2.1 devices? I'm a huge fan of HTC's Sense UI. I'd like to get an android device, but this sense UI is stopping me from getting one!
OMG REALLY!? DO YOU WANT IT!? REALLY BAD!? Haah I'm just messing with you. What Android 2.1 Device are you mentioning. If it's the Nexus One which is the only device that runs Android 2.1, then here;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=636048
if not... TOUGH CRAPZ! I sure do hope you're Rooted.
i think hes talking about the windows mobile sense. in other words he wants the touchflo like sense if im not mistaken. As far as i know you can't i don't if anyone even tried
i thought legend and desire do actually have almost the same version of Sense UI? They're Android 2.1 devices as well...
yes hes talking about HD2 which is winMo,
i dont think anyone anywhere has done what he says,
i havnt seen sense UI on android, but its lks amazing from the videos better than winMo sense UI (aka touch FLO 3D).
sense andoid vs sense winmo
I'm a winmo user and am not very familiar with andoid. It seems like sense on either improves the home screen.
I've been with Sprint for about 10 years, but considered leaving just to get the hd2 until they announced the evo.
I like the winmo sense today screen because of the slider (don't want to swipe multiple times to get where I want to be), but it looks like andoid might be a little more flexibe in that each screen can have shortcuts or widgets.
I don't like the look of shortcuts just plastered on the screen though and it seems like winmo has come further in the way of mods (more customization/sense tabs/titanium panels) and I've seen (but not yet used) some that 1.detach sense from windows so you can have the windows today screen and sense and 2.enable you to use windows plugins in a sense tab.
Before touchflo I used ultimate launch. It allows tabs that you can put shortcuts, plugins or widgets on and is very customizable. If it had a slider I think it would rule.
I'm hoping more android mods will come soon. I would love to have a slider on sense and more info on the home screen (calendar, missed calls, voicemails, emails, texts, tasks, some metrics) along with the time and weather.
I'm really just looking for the pros and cons even though I will be on android soon because I've been planning on replacing my mogul for a long time (wanted the tp2 then they announced the hd2 then they announced the evo) and the evo is just tooo good. I guess you gotta stop and get something somewhere even if the scorpion is going to be a phone.
I'm not sure if I'm wrong about anything here and would love to hear anyone's thoughts. I hope I'm not off topic as I think touchflo on android sense would be awesome (more screens/panels too although I hear that's a memory hog).
Sorry for the late reply guys. I was outta station and I lack a smartphone to access internet while I'm travelling
Thanks for your replies.
BTW, G1Bricked, I mentioned about the senseUI of the HD2. If I had liked the SenseUI of Android, I will buy BRAVO itself. I mean, Desire itself.
But, I like the HD2 sense UI a lot (not only for the eye candies, but the three shotcuts on the home page and much more when you slide down). But the only thing that's preventing me from buying the HD2 is its screen!
If there is a way to brinf HD2 Sense UI to Android 2.1, I would buy Galaxy S (Ya, just for the mouth watery screen). I like the default android 2.1 home screen (the one in nexus one), but galaxy S's home screen looks too cheap (IMHO). I guess we can bring the default android home screen on galaxy S easily, but still HD2 sense UI on it will be simply great!
And can any one of you guys help me in comparing the HD2 screen with that of other smartphones(like Nexus one ,desire etc.,) in BRIGHT SUNLIGHT. Cause I guess, at indoors, HD2 is in par with the other devices except for the deep blacks provided by the AMOLED screens. But brightness is the same i guess...
I would love to have the windows mobile sense as well, hope someone comes out with a theme for it.
G1BRICKED said:
OMG REALLY!? DO YOU WANT IT!? REALLY BAD!? Haah I'm just messing with you. What Android 2.1 Device are you mentioning. If it's the Nexus One which is the only device that runs Android 2.1, then here;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=636048
if not... TOUGH CRAPZ! I sure do hope you're Rooted.
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You know... If you're going to take that tone of text with people, and be a complete jerk in the process, it's usually a REALLY good idea to actually be right in what you claim.
Both the HTC Legend and Desire are also Android 2.1 devices, and both have the original Sense UI on which the current Windows version of it is based.
emmarbee said:
Sorry for the late reply guys. I was outta station and I lack a smartphone to access internet while I'm travelling
Thanks for your replies.
BTW, G1Bricked, I mentioned about the senseUI of the HD2. If I had liked the SenseUI of Android, I will buy BRAVO itself. I mean, Desire itself.
But, I like the HD2 sense UI a lot (not only for the eye candies, but the three shotcuts on the home page and much more when you slide down). But the only thing that's preventing me from buying the HD2 is its screen!
If there is a way to brinf HD2 Sense UI to Android 2.1, I would buy Galaxy S (Ya, just for the mouth watery screen). I like the default android 2.1 home screen (the one in nexus one), but galaxy S's home screen looks too cheap (IMHO). I guess we can bring the default android home screen on galaxy S easily, but still HD2 sense UI on it will be simply great!
And can any one of you guys help me in comparing the HD2 screen with that of other smartphones(like Nexus one ,desire etc.,) in BRIGHT SUNLIGHT. Cause I guess, at indoors, HD2 is in par with the other devices except for the deep blacks provided by the AMOLED screens. But brightness is the same i guess...
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The latest version of SenseUI, on Android 2.1 devices, is FAR superior to the limited Windows implementation of it (as far as I've seen of it, anyway). What specific functionality are you wanting?
As for the screen, I can see my Desire's screen quite well in sunlight, though if it's REALLY bright and directly on the screen, I might need to shade it with a hand. It's certainly better than backlit LCD displays are.
sense, android vs winmo
In what ways do feel sense on android is better than sense on winmo? Honestly looking for opinions. I'm a winmo user, but am switching to android for the Evo and am trying to learn about it. I like the slider on winmo and the all the new mods like the expanded and multiple page launcher and the swipe (once) to switch from appts to tasks.
I know on android you have 7 screens (i used to use ultimate launch with multiple screens), but I've begun to like minimal effort navigating (like using the touchflo slider) to get where I want. I think it might bother me to swipe three times to get to the screen I want. I know, I'm lazy.
Also, I know if I use the multiple page launcher on winmo I will be swiping multiple times, but I doubt I would have that many apps and I also like using touchlaunch (touch a letter and it scrolls there) mapped to a softkey.
Well, for a start, you can place program shortcuts or widgets where ever you like on those 7 screens, so depending on your choice, you either have no swipes, or a maximum of 3. Also, on the Legend and Desire at least, you don't have to swipe. You can pinch to show all 7 screens, and tap the one you want to jump right to it.
You also have far greater control over what widgets you have, and don't even have to use HTC's own widgets if you don't want to. There's no xml file to hack around in to change your layouts either, just drag and drop. This alone makes it far superior to the WM version of SenseUI.
Finally, some good info
FloatingFatMan said:
Well, for a start, you can place program shortcuts or widgets where ever you like on those 7 screens,
not a big fan of shortcuts just plastered on the screen, I like a structured look, but that's just aesthetics. That does seems versatile, any limit to how many shortcuts per screen or how many widgets per screen? Can you have full screen widgets (of course that would limit you to 7)? I do like the winmo sense slider widgets.
so depending on your choice, you either have no swipes, or a maximum of 3. Also, on the Legend and Desire at least, you don't have to swipe. You can pinch to show all 7 screens, and tap the one you want to jump right to it.
Kinda cool, but I'm not a big fan of that either as I like one handed operations. I feel like multitouch is overkill on a phone, but to each his own and it is a neat capability, just more complicated than a one swipe.
You also have far greater control over what widgets you have, and don't even have to use HTC's own widgets if you don't want to. There's no xml file to hack around in to change your layouts either, just drag and drop. This alone makes it far superior to the WM version of SenseUI.
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Now that's pretty good news. I'm not sure how many widgets are available in winmo now (I know there are some new ones from mods I think), but I have wished it was as easy as downloading an app.
you know, titanium was like sense on winmo, just ass backwards. You swiped/dragged up and down (the long way) to get to your widget (or panel) and then left and right in that panel.
I want the best of both worlds, windroid.
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not a big fan of shortcuts just plastered on the screen, I like a structured look, but that's just aesthetics. That does seems versatile, any limit to how many shortcuts per screen or how many widgets per screen? Can you have full screen widgets (of course that would limit you to 7)? I do like the winmo sense slider widgets.
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The only limitation is on available screen real estate. Yes, there are full screen widgets available.
Manicmobileaddict said:
Now that's pretty good news. I'm not sure how many widgets are available in winmo now (I know there are some new ones from mods I think), but I have wished it was as easy as downloading an app.
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The problem with adding extra widgets in winmo Sense was that I just found a lot of them hack jobs and not very well put together; this is especially true for Titanium widgets. They often needed extra things to be installed such as MortScript just to do things like getting weather forecast; and in a lot of cases, involved having to hack DLL's to get decent levels of customization. They certainly weren't for the average user who just wanted some neat widgets.
I've been a WinMo user since Orange released their first HTC made Smartphone, the C100 or C200 I think it was? Years ago anyway. I've had an Android phone for 1.5 weeks now, and I'm not missing WinMo in the slightest.
wow
Thanks dune fan.
coming from a tp2 i can tell you about the comparisons.
Try the android sense. it appears different... but not really just adapted. On WM there is only one home screen, hence the tabs. but what are the tabs? home, email, contacts, programs, texts, internet....
well on android sense, like you said each screen is extremely customizable...
but stock sense has it organized just like windows mobile. each home screen is filled with a full page widget of... email, texts, social networking, news, weather etc just like wm. except it needs no hacks to change... if you dont li ke the 'tab' or homescreen... just throw it in the trash and load whatever you want.
So, since I loved Sense on my TP2... mine is set up like this. home screen has the exact weatherclock wm has, with a few shortcuts to most used programs. then one screen is texts, one screen is facebook which works aloooot better in android, one screen is a bunch of programs, one screen is emails. the rest I dont really use.
And the HTC keyboard is EXACTLY the same as the WM one, except it never lags, and word correction is easier but looks the same.
The Sense Dialer on Android is, to me, much superior. I hated the n1 dialer bc like Iphone your always scrolling through abc order to find a name. My new superphone took ten times as long to quickly call my friend. But when i loaded the Desire ROM on my n1, the dialer is now almost exactly like the WM one, except it has some more functionality built in.
Honestly I think HTC gave up on WM's Sense, and used it just to bring parity but spent most time developing the Android version. Try it. some people dislike it, but anyone who like the WM version, like me, will be instantly at home. It was like I bought an HD that never lagged or crashed.
I hate to tell this being the OP.
I don't feel like I want the WinMo Sense UI anymore. I was just obsessed with it. And after seeing many Android Sense UI, I feel like the android one's are more user friendly.
What's more shame one me (being a WinMo fanboy) is the fact that, after seeing the videos of Legend and Desire I kinda started liking Android 2.1. It all began with the Google Nexus One. Now HTC has perfect 2.1.
I very well realize that Android has a lottt of catching up to do, to where WinMo is now, but still
Now that I'm more inclined towards android 2.1, why should I go to a phone without Super AMOLED?
Everything is okay with I9000 Galaxy S. Except for few shortcomings...
A) It doesn't have SENSE UI. But I guess it won't be a problem. Won't you guys help me in porting senseUI to I9000?
B) It doesn't have flash. (What? No flash??)
C) The design looks awful. Both the hardware and software is a cheap replica of iphone - shame on Samsung.
If only there was a HTC phone with super AMOLED display, I can make a decison super quick!
Now I need this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6229723
(Android sense UI on HD2), is that possible?
Is that possible?
emmarbee said:
Now I need this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6229723
(Android sense UI on HD2), is that possible?
Is that possible?
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It's about as possible as running OSX software in Windows without the aid of emulation or virtualisation.
android sense is much better from hd2 sense. i talk you as winmo addicted
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I hear a lot of people saying Sense is awesome. This is my first time using Sense.
My favorite part about it is the Weather animations. Is this the awesome part? Not being rude but am i not using Sense to its maximal potential?
Sense overall is the meaning!
Sense is 500mb of pure ****.
Clean android 2.3.4 is perfect for me.
But to be ontopic I think most people love the widgets. The email/friendstream/calendar etc.
Try it out and report back if you like it.
Sense is the best UI on Android IMO - stock Android is FAR too basic
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I hear a lot of people saying Sense is awesome. This is my first time using Sense.
My favorite part about it is the Weather animations. Is this the awesome part? Not being rude but am i not using Sense to its maximal potential?
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i would like to know it too.cause i never had HTC phones and iam using SE phones
I thought I liked vanilla android till sense 3.0 , vanilla android is just that .....vanilla , sense overall IMO just looks better ,widgets etc...etc..,that's why we need s-off so we can make it fly , I don't think I'm ever going back to vanilla, I installed ADW on my sensation and instantly got depressed and took it off ...vanilla just sucks compared to sense 3.0 ,but its all android so its all good
I love that you can go from the lockscreen directly to certain apps
I'm loving all the widgets, the lock screens, the carousel, and all the other neat features.. I love Sense 3.0 better than any other UI!
I like it....but then again I am coming from Touch wiz...
I like the sexy weather animation on the lock screen, also the lock screen itself. Otherwise, I feels really chunky. For the average user it seems to be really user friendly, but I am far from an average user.
However, I am angry at HTC for removing some things from the last Sense
- Reply to text messages from web
- A differerent dock, the older Sense let you choose from a rounded design to a solid block.
It's how you configure and place widgets that makes the UI aesthetically awesome, Sense is merely offering you a starting point.
Sorry, but Sense is just too much razz-ma-tazz bull**** for me. I grew up with Sense on my Hero and when aosp (the dev) came out with his stock Froyo (and later Gingerbread) roms I initially thought they were just so bland, but I grew to really love the way ADW Launcher could be set up to instantly flick from one screen to the next. I really loved not having to wait even a fraction of a second to get to the next rock-steady screen, and I came to hate the way that Sense couldn't be set up to jump instantly to the next screen. And it still can't be set up to do that, and I still hate Sense because of that. And I hate it when I unlock the lockscreen then I have to wait for that stupid carousel to quit spinning. Jeeze, that **** is truly maddening. I didn't buy a smartphone so I could watch the goddamn carousel spinning around. That got old after about 2 minutes, and I REALLY resented that I couldn't deactivate it. My time is valuable to me, that's why I got a dual-core Adreno 220 1.2ghz machine. Sense doesn't do anything for me except waste my time. The second day I had this new phone I put ADW Launcher on it and I've been a happy camper ever since. I've got it set up so all I have to do is touch the flip-screen dots in the lower corners or give the screen a flick and BAM, instant screen change! Very satisfying!
Also, ADW lets me set up 5 rows of icons on each screen, which is perfect on the size screen we have now. Being limited to 4 rows just feels like an awful waste of screen space.
So now I've got a screaming machine all set up like I like it! The only thing I don't have yet is root!
ADW on top of Sense is nice. I do like some of the apks provided with Sense. The Launcher, however, is complete garbage lacking any kind of decent customization for better useability...aesthetics only.
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ADW on top of Sense is nice. I do like some of the apks provided with Sense. The Launcher, however, is complete garbage lacking any kind of decent customization for better useability...aesthetics only.
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Thanks. That's exactly what I was trying to say.
Sense is awesome because of the widgets and sleekness of it, the effects. also you get those htc apps that are pretty cool too. also the touch input HTC_IME is the best touch screen keyboard IMO.
What i find not so awesome is 7 home screens i wish you can change that. i only use 3 to 5. Sometimes it feels like over kill. Ram hog is a under statement
android with Sense is much more convinient than non-sense android..
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oldjackbob said:
Sorry, but Sense is just too much razz-ma-tazz bull**** for me. I grew up with Sense on my Hero and when aosp (the dev) came out with his stock Froyo (and later Gingerbread) roms I initially thought they were just so bland, but I grew to really love the way ADW Launcher could be set up to instantly flick from one screen to the next. I really loved not having to wait even a fraction of a second to get to the next rock-steady screen, and I came to hate the way that Sense couldn't be set up to jump instantly to the next screen. And it still can't be set up to do that, and I still hate Sense because of that. And I hate it when I unlock the lockscreen then I have to wait for that stupid carousel to quit spinning. Jeeze, that **** is truly maddening. I didn't buiy a smartphone so I could watch the goddamn carousel spinning around. That got old after about 2 minutes, and I REALLY resented that I couldn't deactivate it. My time is valuable to me, that's why I got a dual-core Adreno 220 1.2ghz machine. Sense doesn't do anything for me except waste my time. The second day I had this new phone I put ADW Launcher on it and I've been a happy camper ever since. I've got it set up so all I have to do is touch the flip-screen dots in the lower corners or give the screen a flick and BAM, instant screen change! Very satisfying!
Also, ADW lets me set up 5 rows of icons on each screen, which is perfect on the size screen we have now. Being limited to 4 rows just feels like an awful waste of screen space.
So now I've got a screaming machine all set up like I like it! The only thing I don't have yet is root!
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So with a 1000 word essay on why you hate sense you go and buy a phone with the latest version of sense on it and then you come on a forum and bash it when you knew before you bought it you were going to hate it . People like you aggravate the **** out of me
Some extra things on Sense I like that isn't the widgets or animations. Pure functional things it brings to the table that I really like:
-Quiet Ring on pickup
-Pocket mode where it increases ringtone volume when in your pocket
-Flip the phone face down to activate speaker phone
-I like the Dialer but that's more cosmetics. I do like the dial by name function from the dialer.
-I won't use a ROM unless it has the power controls in the notification window and the newer Sense builds have this (Still prefer Cyanogenmod's implementation though).
-I know some people hate it but I like the facebook linking in the contacts
That's what I can think off of the top of my head. I don't use most of the widgets (I use Fancy Widget instead of the weather clock), though I do really like the people/contact widgets.
Sense 3.0 is way too bloated. HTC needs to take lessons from Samsung (YES, SAMSUNG) and dial it back about 10 notches.
Sense is awesome because:
1. Best phone dialer and contact management
2. Best integration with social networks
3. Best keyboard and amazing auto correction
4. Awesome notification bar with quick access to apps and system settings
5. Best UI for music player with easy streaming to any wireless or Bluetooth capable device
6. Best text selection and copy paste ability. Highlight a word or paragraph in the browser and it will give you a definition, translation, YouTube results, Wikipedia results and more.
7. By far the most useful and integrated widgets of any android UI. Sure there are replacements in the market but they don't work as well as the sense widgets
8. Best gallery app that let's you wirelessly print your pictures to your printer. Also let's you edit your pictures and add effects and it has auto enhance feature that works really well.
9. Awesome browser with great rss integration
10. It's pretty
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I found a guide that mentions basic Sense porting to another Sense device. I tried this with this Wildfire S ROM for a few reasons:
--I prefer the "standard" HTC Sense as found on any other device (ie. Black status bar, black apps, etc.)
--I wanted to see how well it'd run
--I wanted to see if there'd be any problems with anything
After following the above guide, I notice only the following bugs:
--Camera is upside down
--Rosie keeps force closing because of forced landscape orientation so I have to use an alternate launcher
--Lockscreen is always in Portrait no matter what
--Keypad backlights don't turn on
--Facebook button doesn't work (duh)
--(New)GPS doesn't work - need to mess with GPS libs when I have more time
--(New)The FM Radio app's graphics are messed up
To try and fix the Rosie problem, I tried copying over the Rosie.apk and Rosie.odex from the Chacha's 2.3.5 OTA, but no dice, the system doesn't even see it.
Anyone have any tips on how I could fix any of the above? I'm no dev, and I only tried this for (basically) the fun of it to see how it'd turn out and my "experience", so to speak, only goes as far as swapping files here and there - I felt like the Development forum was the best place to post this. Apologies if it isn't.
good attempt! nice to see to back into work. May be some developers can help you out.
I would like to apologize first, as it is 08:19 in the morning and I'm already drunk. lol.
Well, let's start with the easy bits:
1. --Keypad backlights don't turn on
Mainly the thing is that the Wildfire S ROM does not have support (or it is not activated) for a physical keyboard; therefore the need for backlight is redundant. To fix this you will either have to manually add the code lines or un-comment them. I suggest talking with adlx or xdbg since both of them have implemented this feature in the two custom ROMs.
2. --Facebook button doesn't work (duh)
As above, the ROM doesn't know (or doesn't want to know) about the physical keyboard. Same suggestions as above.
3. Landscape/portrait issues.
Well. The main problem here is the android system. By definition it detects the longest size on the display and sets it as the height. Therefore you'll have a tough time fixing the standard display to landscape. As above, I suggest speaking with the devs that worked on these roms and implement the ChaCha kernel files into the Wildfire ROM.
Aaaaaand that's about it I guess. I wish you good luck!
Drunk, this early??
Good effort!
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qzfive said:
I found a guide that mentions basic Sense porting to another Sense device. I tried this with this Wildfire S ROM for a few reasons:
--I prefer the "standard" HTC Sense as found on any other device (ie. Black status bar, black apps, etc.)
--I wanted to see how well it'd run
--I wanted to see if there'd be any problems with anything
After following the above guide, I notice only the following bugs:
--Camera is upside down
--Rosie keeps force closing because of forced landscape orientation so I have to use an alternate launcher
--Lockscreen is always in Portrait no matter what
--Keypad backlights don't turn on
--Facebook button doesn't work (duh)
To try and fix the Rosie problem, I tried copying over the Rosie.apk and Rosie.odex from the Chacha's 2.3.5 OTA, but no dice, the system doesn't even see it.
Anyone have any tips on how I could fix any of the above? I'm no dev, and I only tried this for (basically) the fun of it to see how it'd turn out and my "experience", so to speak, only goes as far as swapping files here and there - I felt like the Development forum was the best place to post this. Apologies if it isn't.
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Nice!
For the backlight, maybe you could try using system/lib/hw/lights.msm7k.so from the stock Chacha rom, or even from SuperOSR...
You cannot copy/paste an apk+odex file, it will probably never work. Try deodexing it first, then copy it.
I guess this is the right place to ask
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Nice!
For the backlight, maybe you could try using system/lib/hw/lights.msm7k.so from the stock Chacha rom, or even from SuperOSR...
You cannot copy/paste an apk+odex file, it will probably never work. Try deodexing it first, then copy it.
I guess this is the right place to ask
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I copied lights.msm7k.so from SuperOSR, and the keyboard backlight works now.
I used an application on my laptop called xUltimate to deodex both this ROM and Chacha 1.54 stock, and the only things that wouldn't deodex are the Lockscreen and Rosie :/
Camera appears right-way round/up if a 3rd party camera app is used
Additional bugs I've noticed after trying it out a bit again:
--GPS doesn't work - I'll mess around with gps libs tomorrow when I have a bit more time
--The FM radio app's graphics are messed up
For gps try also to use stock chacha libsensors (or something like that)
the right names for the files are:
/system/lib/hw/gps.chacha.so
/system/lib/hw/sensors.chacha.so
try using the one from SuperOSR.
Is this ROM going to be official released anytime soon because I am working on a ROM from another HTC device aswell and was wondering if you needed any assistance on final touches?
TechMayhem
This would interest me greatly, as I really love the "standard" sense and was quite disappointed with the amount of white/light colours used in the ChaCha's version, and how it just doesn't seem to fit in very well at all with the HTC family. Would it be possible to use the Desire Z's rosie? As that supports landscape natively.
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Is this ROM going to be official released anytime soon because I am working on a ROM from another HTC device aswell and was wondering if you needed any assistance on final touches?
TechMayhem
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Tbh, I haven't done anything on this for a while because I started flashing CM7/SuperOSR.
From what I can remember, the following things wern't working:
-Lockscreen - Always in Portrait, won't rotate
-Rosie - Force-close loop, had to replace with an alternate launcher
-GPS - Icon doesn't appear in the status bar
-FM/Dailer/maybe others - Graphics messed up due to forced landscape resolution
That's all I managed to check before I got caught up in crackflashing XD
I am by no means a dev - all this was done by replacing files in a Wildfire S ROM with ones from SuperOSR/stock Chacha
Atomix86 said:
This would interest me greatly, as I really love the "standard" sense and was quite disappointed with the amount of white/light colours used in the ChaCha's version, and how it just doesn't seem to fit in very well at all with the HTC family. Would it be possible to use the Desire Z's rosie? As that supports landscape natively.
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Precisely why I tried this in the first place - I wasn't expecting all this white, which doesn't make the Chacha feel like an HTC as much to me - I already tried the Desire Z's Rosie - while it did work, all the icons were huge (because of it being scaled for HDPI screens). Dunno about widgets.
Once I find it amongst all the crap I have on my laptop, I could upload it if anyone might have an idea how to fix what's left and to see what else is broken?