I've heard of alienwares and since I'm going to get some money I wanted to buy a great laptop. I've been reading about alienwares and they sound like gaming laptops , and really expensive. I still don't understand what Alienwares really are, can anyone explain to me if its good?
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Alienwares have very good specs, the chasis, looks awful, the battery life in the laptops is very short.
Jimlarck said:
I've heard of alienwares and since I'm going to get some money I wanted to buy a great laptop. I've been reading about alienwares and they sound like gaming laptops , and really expensive. I still don't understand what Alienwares really are, can anyone explain to me if its good?
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Alienware is owned by Dell, and they focus on gaming machines. Alienware laptops are large, heavy, and are mainly desktop replacements. The chassis, while very awesome looking, is bulky, heavy, and is really meant to not leave the confines of your home.
Specs on the laptop are okay, but the cost to performance ratio is terrible.
My general rule of thumb is that if you bought an alienware then you a) know almost nothing about computers and shopping for them b) like pretty lights and are an impulsive buyer.
If you are going to run into some money and want to buy a gaming laptop, I recommend the Asus G75 or G55, or the new N series Asus laptops (which are currently being refreshed, so they will have Ivy Bridge and Nvidia 6xx graphics). I personally am looking at the N series as it will be portable with fantastic specs and battery life.
You could also look for the Toshiba Qosmio series, which I have heard is fairly decent, although I believe it is currently being refreshed.
If you have a lot of money and wish to waste it, I would recommend looking at the Samsung Series 7 first, as the Specs on that are much better than on any Alienware laptop.
You could also look at some boutique sights such as Ibuypower.com or Maingear, as they have good gaming laptops, though not as good of a deal as Asus.
Hope I helped you out bud. Good luck!
(P.S. if you want any help in choosing, just PM me, I'll be more than happy to help)
I was looking for a gaming laptop a while back. I recommend you look for the brand Sager. Its the same internal guts as an alienware, without the funky look and cost about 25 percent less.
Jimlarck said:
I've heard of alienwares and since I'm going to get some money I wanted to buy a great laptop. I've been reading about alienwares and they sound like gaming laptops , and really expensive. I still don't understand what Alienwares really are, can anyone explain to me if its good?
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Alienware (the laptops, that is) is highly overpriced for their components and from what I hear lacking in mobility, battery life and feel-quality (ehrm, is that a good enough word?). However, if you decide to buy one, make sure to get the 1920x1080 display, since the computer is more or less useless for gaming otherwise.
I'd look at ASUS and I've recently heard about the Battalion X7200. Personally, I think it looks like it's been teleported here from the 90's with a low-end time machine, but it gets great reviews!
Good luck in finding a great laptop. Hope I helped somehow, although it mostly turned out to be a prejudice post about Alienware.. Sorry!
It's ok, I changed my mind about alienwares now xD , Asus has been getting a lot of good reviews, I'm gonna take a look at it
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if you have enough money for buy it, if you are the gamer -> you must buy it, many reviews site define your problem: cnet - notebookcheck - ...
I have an Asus G60V and for mild to moderate gaming it works great, even being two years old.
Alienware is hardcore gaming laptop and CPU by Dell. They are heavy and rugged and obscenely maxed out on graphics performance. You'll see the price tag and faint most likely.
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Yea.. Alienware is way over-priced. Sure there loaded to the max spec wise but those chasis's are hideous.
Asus are well rounded, been using one myself for a few years, the UX50V.
If you've got the cash to toss around try building your own. My second laptop is from iBuyPower. Amazing specs, battery life is ~8hrs, light and thin chasis. Spent $1200 on mine.
If you are looking for portable but powerful, then the sager np6110 is a good bet. It's an 11" lappy and you can get it for under 1k with a ivy bridge processor and with a gtx 650m. If you want a 1080p 15" lappy you can get the sager np6110 with a gtx 650m and a ivy bridge processor. You can get the higher end np9130 with a gtx 670m and an ivy bridge processor for under 1.2k. Check out xoticpc if you're interested. :3
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My brother in-law has an Alienware laptop. I dont remember which model but its too heavy, too ungly, and too expensive.
When i got my Toshiba Qosmio X775-Q7272 17" laptop he was surprised that it was almost half of what he paid for.
Here are my specs:
Intel Core i7-2630QM 2.00Gh, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560M, 2 x 500GB, 6GB DDR3, Windows 7 home 64-Bit,
I've played Crysis with all settings on max, and Crysis 2 on high. I've replaced my OS hard drive with an OCZ Vertex 2 60GB SDD and booting up is around 25-30 seconds and opening files and programs is instant.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834214628
greeky510 said:
My brother in-law has an Alienware laptop. I dont remember which model but its too heavy, too ungly, and too expensive.
When i got my Toshiba Qosmio X775-Q7272 17" laptop he was surprised that it was almost half of what he paid for.
Here are my specs:
Intel Core i7-2630QM 2.00Gh, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560M, 2 x 500GB, 6GB DDR3, Windows 7 home 64-Bit,
I've played Crysis with all settings on max, and Crysis 2 on high. I've replaced my OS hard drive with an OCZ Vertex 2 60GB SDD and booting up is around 25-30 seconds and opening files and programs is instant.
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my gaaad that's a laptop
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my gaaad that's a laptop
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Dude... That is awesome!!!! Maybe I'll take a look at that. Still watching videos of the Battalion. Too expensive , its like buying an Alienware. So ... No. My quest for the perfect affordable laptop continues!
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Jimlarck said:
Dude... That is awesome!!!! Maybe I'll take a look at that. Still watching videos of the Battalion. Too expensive , its like buying an Alienware. So ... No. My quest for the perfect affordable laptop continues!
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Get a Lenovo ultrabook. They haven't reached here yet though
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I am thinking about selling my two netbooks(yeah i have two netbooks... ) and getting an android tablet to carry around with me instead of the netbook(takes a while to boot and isn't that awesome anymore).
I have no clue what are some good tablets
I'm sorry to post this here you can delete once someone tells me a few.
I know
The Galaxy Tab
The ViewSonic G Tablet
Any others worth looking at
Spec wise i'd go for the viewsonic tablet since its 10" and has a dual core cpu, other than that no clue.
Thats funny I just traded my tab to my brother for his nice little laptop. IMO these things are a fad that get boring real quick. I know, I needed one as soon as they dropped but, once you get by the new toy thing its just a netbook with no cover no cd/dvd, and a screen you are constantly worried about banging into things even while its in the case. I should have just bought a new laptop after my old one died. You close the lid when your done its pretty protected, rip cds and dvds, for the amount of interaction a laptop and tablet have anyway (transfering photos,music,etc) its just easier. A nice new laptop dual booting windows 7 and Ubuntu Ultimate Edition is twice as awesome. For your question I cant recommend what to get bit will say the galaxy is a little disappointing screen real estate sucks.
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Put Gentoo on your netbooks.
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Get a nook color and root it, decent $250 android tablet and great ereader functionality!
I've been fairly excited about Notion Ink's Adam. Small Indian start-up company, but very solid specs if it delivers what's promised. The Pixel Qi screen is a big plus for it.
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I've been fairly excited about Notion Ink's Adam. Small Indian start-up company, but very solid specs if it delivers what's promised. The Pixel Qi screen is a big plus for it.
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Well, apparently I am not allowed to post outside links yet, but just google notion ink scam, and you will realize that it may be a good time to temper your excitement with a good dose of reality, unfortunately.
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Get a nook color and root it, decent $250 android tablet and great ereader functionality!
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I want one just cause of the price. No way I'm paying 500+ for a tab. Plus I don't want one. Got an android phone for that. Only reason I see to get one is for magazines and movies. 250 ain't bad at all for that. It is on my christmas list. Sales lady showed me on hers she has tons of stuff that she called "not legit". I have about 60 gigs of comics that would look awesome it.
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Tablets are a fad... I bought iPad it sucked worse than an iphone. Then I tried the galaxy tab and it was basically like the only time I could use it I also had access to my laptop so I never used it.
I'm a system administrator and wanted a tablet for when I service IT requests. I ended up deciding on an off lease Dell Latitude XT for $400. 1.33 ghz ulv c2d, 12" led backlit multi touch display, 3 gb ram, 80 gb ssd. Just got it a few days ago and love it. Got it from www dot dfsdirect dot ca (Dell Financial Services)
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I'm a system administrator and wanted a tablet for when I service IT requests. I ended up deciding on an off lease Dell Latitude XT for $400. 1.33 ghz ulv c2d, 12" led backlit multi touch display, 3 gb ram, 80 gb ssd. Just got it a few days ago and love it. Got it from www dot dfsdirect dot ca (Dell Financial Services)
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What was the quality of the laptop? Was it in good shape? Thats a deal! Slap Windows 7 on it and it should actually perform pretty well.
I would wait until Honeycomb tablets appear.
Since I attached the dock I now feel like its a under powered over priced netbook, Is this what it really is?
For 200 BUCKS I could have a windows powered netbook that is more usable.
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1st, sorry for my poor Eng, i'm not an Eng speaker.
Then why don't you just buy a Windows netbook and forget about the tablet?
Do your netbook have the touchscreen? And if it have, can it work smoothly like on android device?
Can you just take your netbook's LCD out and rotate it portrait to read?
All about here is about a tablet with a keyboard docking station not a netbook which you can't take the LCD out.
One more thing, you can just forget about the dock if you just want to use it as a tablet.
To OP,
seriously if you really think that then you have totally missed the point of the device. Its so much more that an overpriced underpowered netbook.
this post smells of troll.
sorry.
Technically the CPU and GPU is faster than that of a netbook with longer battery life as well.
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do netbooks have an ips display that's at least as good as the ipad screen?
I don't own a netbook, but I have used a few of them before, and none of them have a comparable battery life and performance. Flash even runs better on the transformer than some of the netbooks i've used before.
Also, android is much better than windows
im assuming that OP is trolling but .....
I bought a tablet - an Android tablet with a great spec.
However a tablet on its own isnt really enough for day to day use. Thats where the keyboard fits in.
Its not a case that the transformer is 'just' an overpriced netbook its more a case that for the money you are getting an 'iPad' AND a 'netbook' all rolled into one.
Then add in ... Kindle, iPod, Media viewer and its a great 'all in one' ......
That was my logic anyway ....
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im assuming that OP is trolling but .....
I bought a tablet - an Android tablet with a great spec.
However a tablet on its own isnt really enough for day to day use. Thats where the keyboard fits in.
Its not a case that the transformer is 'just' an overpriced netbook its more a case that for the money you are getting an 'iPad' AND a 'netbook' all rolled into one.
Then add in ... Kindle, iPod, Media viewer and its a great 'all in one' ......
That was my logic anyway ....
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Well stated wilbur-force. Pretty close to my thinking also. Docked TFs, to me, are an "extra benefit". I bought primarily for the eclectic uses of a "tablet". Portability formost. And the opportunity to learn a new OS..android. Admittedly, am looking forward to getting one of the projected desktop docks though.
upperkingjr said:
Since I attached the dock I now feel like its a under powered over priced netbook, Is this what it really is?
For 200 BUCKS I could have a windows powered netbook that is more usable.
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Then go and exchange your TF for a netbook and leave all of us who are happy with the purchase (and did some research before making stupid comparisons) alone.
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Well stated wilbur-force. Pretty close to my thinking also. Docked TFs, to me, are an "extra benefit". I bought primarily for the eclectic uses of a "tablet". Portability formost. And the opportunity to learn a new OS..android. Admittedly, am looking forward to getting one of the projected desktop docks though.
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yep - ill be keeping an eye out for when the desktop docks appear.
Long train journey yesterday. Used my TF dockless to watch a movie and play a little RoboDefense and then the keyboard was snapped on to write a speech for a Junior football presentation while listening to music. Dropboxed the doc to my home PC and the missus had it printed off for me by the time i got home plus i was using my HTC Desire as a wifi hotspot to browse the web PLUS the TF was charging my phone at the same time ...... its a great piece of kit !
A $200 dollar netbook won't get you the same performance.
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Then go and exchange your TF for a netbook and leave all of us who are happy with the purchase (and did some research before making stupid comparisons) alone.
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I am on the fence on whether to buy this tablet or keep my recently acquired galaxy tab (woot deal). So, I appreciate the different perspectives. I can then decide whether the posts are valid to me and if not I'm certainly not going to criticize the individual for sharing insight.
For the record, I'm not flaming you but ask yourself "Why read the OP's post if it is going to be upsetting to you?".
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Is a 200 dollar netbook more "usable" ? If you could tell me what a 200 dollar windows powered netbook could do better than the transformer, i'd gladly discuss with you the merits of your assertion. Let me start with two thing thats it can't do: video encoding, and playing select pc games. I would never try to convert video on a crappy netbook as it would take forever, nor would i try to play any worthwhile game on a netbook especially a 200 dollar one with integrated graphics and 10 inch screen. Your turn!
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To each their own. For my daily use this tablet is great, the keyboard dock allows me to actually use it as a produtivity device and not just for entertainment. I travel frequently for work, with this I can leave my laptop at home 90% of the time. As to the comment about it being under powered I have to disagree, it has more than enough power to run Android like a champ. I was listening to a podcast in the browser and jumping between Touchdown, Pulse and multiple browser tabs, pretty much exactly what I use my laptop for most of the time and it never skipped a beat. Sure it would be on the underpowered side if you installed an OS like Windows, but that's why you're not running Windows on it. I've been with Android since the beginning (have an old beat up G1 to prove it) so I already have a pretty significant investment in the Marketplace, because of that and Android tablet just makes sense for me.
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The op is just a dushe bag that prob works for microsoft
upperkingjr said:
Since I attached the dock I now feel like its a under powered over priced netbook, Is this what it really is?
For 200 BUCKS I could have a windows powered netbook that is more usable.
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You do know you can remove the tablet from the dock, right?
Hey everyone I haven't got a clue about tablets which is why I'm asking you guys which tablet I should get. I need it mostly for school (ebooks, music, play videos online, etc). Speed isn't my biggest concern but I don't want to go back to Windows Me speeds either . Money is probably my biggest concern and I really don't want to spend a fortune on it mainly because my college funds are draining my money and my soul. Any advice would be appreciated .
If this is the wrong forum for this i apologize.
matt75371 said:
Hey everyone I haven't got a clue about tablets which is why I'm asking you guys which tablet I should get. I need it mostly for school (ebooks, music, play videos online, etc). Speed isn't my biggest concern but I don't want to go back to Windows Me speeds either . Money is probably my biggest concern and I really don't want to spend a fortune on it mainly because my college funds are draining my money and my soul. Any advice would be appreciated .
If this is the wrong forum for this i apologize.
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so you want a honeycomb tablet or ANY tablet in general? is 450e too much? you want a good battery life? screen size 7 or 10 inch? you want future android updates? you want good xda community? tell more and i will answer
wow lol
well honeycomb would be very nice but im assuming price skyrockets w/ it so a general tablet would be perfectly okay one i would prefer to be upgradeable. I would like a good xda community because i'm sure ill try to load something on it and brick it. Battery life isn't a big concern granted it doesn't die out in like an hour. Screen size... 10in would be nice but i wouldn't mind a 7in. As for price I'd like to keep it under 300-400 but as i look up tablets it doesn't sound reasonable lool
Xoom!
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wow lol
well honeycomb would be very nice but im assuming price skyrockets w/ it so a general tablet would be perfectly okay one i would prefer to be upgradeable. I would like a good xda community because i'm sure ill try to load something on it and brick it. Battery life isn't a big concern granted it doesn't die out in like an hour. Screen size... 10in would be nice but i wouldn't mind a 7in. As for price I'd like to keep it under 300-400 but as i look up tablets it doesn't sound reasonable lool
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well here are 3 tablets that i recommend
dell streak 7
pros: cheap (on amazon 300e) , good xda community, you can get working honeycomb via xda, it has tegra 2 so its powerful (fast), 7 inch screen with gorilla glass
cons: bad battery life (average 3 hours when used), no official updates anymore.
samsung galaxy tab
pros: also pretty cheap (350e on amazon), also good xda community, can get honeycomb via xda, you can make calls with it, also 7 inch screen and gorilla glass, good battery life, 3g.
cons: single core A8 processor (not so fast), no official updates anymore.
asus transformer
pros: genuine 3.0 tablet, will get all coming updates very fast, good community, GREAT screen, 10 inch wit gorilla glass screen, VERY FAST, good built quality, awesome battery life (+9 hours), everything in this device is awesome
cons: expensive (450e (altought its cheap for a 3.0 tablet)), some devices have bad speakers.
so what do you say?
EDIT: and yes i own a transformer, thats why i love it
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Xoom!
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xoom is not cheap i recommend transformer
Transformer is having tons of problems from what ive heard, the good models are very good, but youre taking a shot buying one. Iconia's are also having problems but not as much. I would recommend those two though. If you dont need SD card or usb or any of that shabang, you can get a galaxy tab 8.9, they are relatively cheap, and have the perfect screen size (8.9" )
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Transformer is having tons of problems from what ive heard, the good models are very good, but youre taking a shot buying one. Iconia's are also having problems but not as much. I would recommend those two though. If you dont need SD card or usb or any of that shabang, you can get a galaxy tab 8.9, they are relatively cheap, and have the perfect screen size (8.9" )
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really my transformer works great, no speaker issue or any else issues... and i dont recommend samsungs tab (10/8.9) because it has touchwiz skin on top of honeycomb so the updates are going to take ages and as for iconia tab, it has locked bootloader and not so fast updates. asus has very fast updates, good support, much more developement than any of 3.0 tabs and no skin with honeycomb
i gotta say im quite impressed w/ the transformer price but if a lot of them are not working up to par that is quite disappointing. A random question - what's the difference between a tablet pc and a tablet? Is it just the keyboard addition? does the transformer come w/ the keyboard or is that a separate purchase?
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i gotta say im quite impressed w/ the transformer price but if a lot of them are not working up to par that is quite disappointing. A random question - what's the difference between a tablet pc and a tablet? Is it just the keyboard addition? does the transformer come w/ the keyboard or is that a separate purchase?
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dont know whats the difference between those 2 but the transformer is 450e without the dock and 550 with the dock...
Maybe a Advent Vega?
Gotta throw in my 2 cents. I looked and Transformer and Xoom, but didn't like the price. Started hearing about the Advent Vega (Point of View Mobii), and that was my choice. Solid machine, less expensive, etc.
Honeycomb looks great and fast!
Tablet NVIDIA Tegra 250 1GHz Dual Core
Multi-touch LCD 10.1" 1024x600
RAM 512MB + 512MB NAND
WiFi
Bluetooth
GPS
3G slot (on some devices)
USB 2.0, HDMI
1.3Mpix webcamera
microSDHC slot
Pros
Unbrickable (so they say, I've flashed alot of ROM's on it)
Cons
Only 1 gb memory (512 OS, 512 apps) but SD cards up to 32 gb
Viewing angles of the screen
Here is a link to a Vega forum post, watch the video.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1040966
Let me know if you have any specific questions.
J
The Xoom is crap and way too expensive! Don't even consider it. If money wasn't a problem and you wanted a tablet, I would go with the iPad 2 or Samsung 10.1. Tablet PCs are obviously more expensive than tablets because you're actually buying a computer and not some toy. The best and relatively cheap Tablet PC is the HP TM2T. Keep in mind there are some tablet PCs upwards of 2k. Outside of the iPad, 10.1 and true tablets I wouldn't recommend anything. I think you would just be wasting money.
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The Xoom is crap and way too expensive! Don't even consider it. If money wasn't a problem and you wanted a tablet, I would go with the iPad 2 or Samsung 10.1. Tablet PCs are obviously more expensive than tablets because you're actually buying a computer and not some toy. The best and relatively cheap Tablet PC is the HP TM2T. Keep in mind there are some tablet PCs upwards of 2k. Outside of the iPad, 10.1 and true tablets I wouldn't recommend anything. I think you would just be wasting money.
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I would also recommend that you go to your local Best Buy and play with the tabs first hand. I did not too long in order to see HC for myself and really did like it, it is gorgeous. The Moto Xoom felt great in hands, but its screen sucked. It seemed faster than the Iconia A500 which also has the Tegra 2. That was odd. The Iconia had the nicer looking screen. I have had the original iPad and VS Gtab, but believe 7 inches is the way to go. Both 9.7 and 10.1 are IMO too big, but most people seem to disagree. Good luck!
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I would also recommend that you go to your local Best Buy and play with the tabs first hand. I did not too long in order to see HC for myself and really did like it, it is gorgeous. The Moto Xoom felt great in hands, but its screen sucked. It seemed faster than the Iconia A500 which also has the Tegra 2. That was odd. The Iconia had the nicer looking screen. I have had the original iPad and VS Gtab, but believe 7 inches is the way to go. Both 9.7 and 10.1 are IMO too big, but most people seem to disagree. Good luck!
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Third post in a row LOL...I just saw something and this might be of interest:
http://www.androidcentral.com/hands...mpaign=Feed:+androidcentral+(Android+Central)
1) I second the Advent Vega recommendation. I am typing on mine now and LOVE it.
2) I just broke the chain.
Which ROM are you using? I love the keyboard with VegaComb 1.6.
htc
Has anybody used new HTC tablet ? any feedback ?
first of all let me just say thank you to all of you - i appreciate ALL the feedback and device suggestions - i went and tried out a lot of the tablets. I have to say the xoom was most disappointing (quite heavy didnt feel right). The Advent Vega is really nice but i had a chance to get the asus eee transformer w/ keyboard at $350 so I jumped it and grabbed it. Thank you all for all your input it was all read and much appreciated
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first of all let me just say thank you to all of you - i appreciate ALL the feedback and device suggestions - i went and tried out a lot of the tablets. I have to say the xoom was most disappointing (quite heavy didnt feel right). The Advent Vega is really nice but i had a chance to get the asus eee transformer w/ keyboard at $350 so I jumped it and grabbed it. Thank you all for all your input it was all read and much appreciated
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You welcome and that's an AWESOME deal!
Good choice!!!! The Transformer is the obvious choice with the keyboard dock, especially if you plan to use it for school too. As you might have guessed, I have one too for much the same reason.....except school was out for me about 16years ago, however, I wanted something I can enjoy as a tablet but also use for work e.t.c
Once again, good choice!
This time it's a bit different.
While it can be argued the iPhone 4S has little more (if anything) than a SGSII, this new iPad really makes all other tablets look like pieces of wood. The CPU might still be a dual core, but honestly who cares if the graphic card is quad core, twice as powerful as the yet-to-be-launched Tegra 3?
I think that, this time, the Android (and Windows) users will have to sit and wait. I don't know when we'll see a 10" tablet with a 2048 x 1536 display. Not to talk of the graphic card.
I'm just talking of hardware specs here, of course... I am a proud Androider, I don't want to start the same OS war. At all. What I'd like to hear is:
When will we be seeing something like this on our tablets?
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This time it's a bit different.
While it can be argued the iPhone 4S has little more (if anything) than a SGSII, this new iPad really makes all other tablets look like pieces of wood. The CPU might still be a dual core, but honestly who cares if the graphic card is quad core, twice as powerful as the yet-to-be-launched Tegra 3?
I think that, this time, the Android (and Windows) users will have to sit and wait. I don't know when we'll see a 10" tablet with a 2048 x 1536 display. Not to talk of the graphic card.
I'm just talking of hardware specs here, of course... I am a proud Androider, I don't want to start the same OS war. At all. What I'd like to hear is:
When will we be seeing something like this on our tablets?
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Huh?? What the heck are you smoking? "Yet to be lunched" Tegra 3? It's been out for a while. Also, how is the apple GPU "twice as powerful" as the 5-core Tegra?
FYI, the Asus Transformer Prime TF700 has a 1920x1200 IPS display and the lovely Tegra. The screen is absolutely lovely, and the 3D games are to die for. Worldwide launch will be in June, but a few of us lucky guys who bought the TF201 (and thus are already enjoying Tegra 3 goodness) also get to play with the newest toys...
Sorry for not having checked if Tegra 3 had already come out before posting... I assure you I have never smoked anything in my life!
iPad's graphic card is twice more powerful than Tegra 3, according to what Tim Cook reported yesterday in the keynote. If it's true or not, we'll see, but the announcement is startling anyway. I know there are tablets with quite a nice display, but the resolution of the iPad is unprecedented for a tablet... That's impressive! I love it when competition reaches this levels
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Sorry for not having checked if Tegra 3 had already come out before posting... I assure you I have never smoked anything in my life!
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Good time to get started!
UltimateGoblin said:
iPad's graphic card is twice more powerful than Tegra 3, according to what Tim Cook reported yesterday in the keynote. If it's true or not, we'll see, but the announcement is startling anyway. I know there are tablets with quite a nice display, but the resolution of the iPad is unprecedented for a tablet... That's impressive! I love it when competition reaches this levels
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Well, Apple is well known for massive massive massive fluff (or blatant lies) in their presentations. In all likelihood they took one specific game/graphic app and specifically optimized the heck out of it, then tested it against a Tegra 3 system which ran an un-optimized game.
Yeah, the resolution is nice, but I can assure you the competition is not waiting.
The IPS panel on the TF701 is stunning. Perfect color rendition, viewing angles like mad, etc. Plus it's a wide display which is nicer for watching movies, and it's a lot lighter than the new iPad (which needs to lay off the Krispy Kremes)
The iPad as a device is great. It all comes down to do you like ios
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The iPad as a device is great. It all comes down to do you like ios
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Yup, I agree. Some people may say "android phone and iPad for best of both worlds".
Personally, I prefer android on both for easy synch, google cloud services, etc. It all depend on which ecosystem you prefer to be tied in to - some people may prefer iCloud, etc.
Any android tablet priced over $200 does not stand a chance against the iPad. Furthermore after W8 launches android will be relegated to junky KIRFs from ZTE and Pantech where it truly belongs.
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Any android tablet priced over $200 does not stand a chance against the iPad.
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I would not say that.
But it is true that now a new benchmark has been set. And I personally believe that this time, for the first time, the price that the iPad is selling at is justified by the impressing hardware. How many times have we said "I can find better at a cheaper price"? Now OEMs will have to struggle a little. Not only they will have to compete with iPad's hardware, but also with its price. Which, I repeat, now really seems something like... competitive.
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Any android tablet priced over $200 does not stand a chance against the iPad. Furthermore after W8 launches android will be relegated to junky KIRFs from ZTE and Pantech where it truly belongs.
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Agee in part outside of the w8 thing which is a joke. Happy to see more options but I have yet to see a windows op system on a mobile device I could stomach
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Any android tablet priced over $200 does not stand a chance against the iPad. Furthermore after W8 launches android will be relegated to junky KIRFs from ZTE and Pantech where it truly belongs.
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Lol?
I like the new ipad, but i just cant stand iOS and it lack of customization.
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The screen resolution is pretty good and I imagine the Android tablets will be 1080p capable this year. Thats not copying Apple, screen resolutions are always getting better over time. Most tablets have pretty poor screen densities when compared with phones. The Asus Transformer resolution of 1920x1200 sounds like a good one since it will fit 1920x1080 video fine with extra room for the ICS buttons below.
I am torn between getting the new iPad or waiting for W8 pads to arrive...
Any opinions?
I need it for school as well, so that's one point for W8 running normal Windows applications.
hype
I think there's a lot of hype with the W8 tablets, likely those will be a bit expensive if they come with a X86 cpu to take advantage of the existing windows aplications.
Yes, the ARM ones will be cheaper but it's like a developing for a new OS, Microsoft will have to start from scratch and the competition is already established.
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I think there's a lot of hype with the W8 tablets, likely those will be a bit expensive if they come with a X86 cpu to take advantage of the existing windows aplications.
Yes, the ARM ones will be cheaper but it's like a developing for a new OS, Microsoft will have to start from scratch and the competition is already established.
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Yeah, that's what I'm thinking too. Windows 8 might be a big tablet hit, it also might die out from the heavy competition... They might just be a bit too late.
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I am torn between getting the new iPad or waiting for W8 pads to arrive...
Any opinions?
I need it for school as well, so that's one point for W8 running normal Windows applications.
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Install Windows 8 on one of your computers and give it a go. For me, it was a giant disappointment.
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For me too, but when Windows 8 reaches tablets, we'll surely start to see a mixture between tablet apps and Windows applications. It WILL be expensive though. I think I'll get the iPad
I really think that the "new iPad" is great, but i dislike iOS, i think that iOS, android and "WindowsFail 8" on tablets need to be more productivity oriented. Today tablets are gimmick, big phones, with little extra usability over them, but if they want the tablets to replace PC they need somethiing more beside social apps and games.
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I really think that the "new iPad" is great, but i dislike iOS, i think that iOS, android and "WindowsFail 8" on tablets need to be more productivity oriented. Today tablets are gimmick, big phones, with little extra usability over them, but if they want the tablets to replace PC they need somethiing more beside social apps and games.
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Problem is when you start adding stuff like keyboards,mice and desktop OS-like features you may as well get an ultra portable laptop that does those things much better than a tablet.
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I really think that the "new iPad" is great, but i dislike iOS, i think that iOS, android and "WindowsFail 8" on tablets need to be more productivity oriented. Today tablets are gimmick, big phones, with little extra usability over them, but if they want the tablets to replace PC they need somethiing more beside social apps and games.
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I agree, but apps like OneNote and Google Docs on Android and iOS are slowly adding to the productivity-abilities of tablets and phones.
Tablets are mostly gimmics, but they sure are very cool ones?
I will let you all know, my company is giving us all iPads next month for work.
I'm looking for your thoughts/opinions after using him/her for a week or so. What is your primary use for the Surface Pro? Worth it? Or have you returned it? Plan to stick with it? Or jump ship when the next superhotawesome drops?
Got the Rt for my Daughter and finally the Pro for myself was waiting for what seemed like forever. I'm very satisfied with it, it's perfect for what I do I'm self employed and blends all my devices into one convenient package. It's that sweet spot and I'm sure I will have it for a long time.
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I'm looking for your thoughts/opinions after using him/her for a week or so. What is your primary use for the Surface Pro? Worth it? Or have you returned it? Plan to stick with it? Or jump ship when the next superhotawesome drops?
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I have the Surface pro and I love it,It has complete replaced my i7 laptop.it has plenty of Storage space ism not san why everyone was complaining of course the os requires Storage what type of idiot would expect it not to eat into the available Storage.
Interface
The new interface Was design for touch after a week of usage I could not imagine using win 7 on this device. MS did a great Job when designing the interface.
handwriting recognition
no os available Oat there has better handwriting recognition in comparison to windows8. My handwriting could be in Chicken scratch but somehow handwrite recognition gets it right every time
Stability
Overall the device is Stable I only had to reboot once, because chrome does not play Well on surface. Everything else runs like a Champ.
you Cannot compare the Surface pro to any android or iPad. Both are Just cool toys in comparison, the Surface Pro is a true productivity tool.
Battery Life
Have you used a Lenovo. The t 410 battery life is terrible in comparison. I get more than 4 hours on my Surface Pro. Microsoft tried to be too honest with specs.
I have not had problems with battery life. I charge it once a day. I am enjoying using it so far. I have had a couple of issues with legacy software that I need for work not running with the scaling, so i choose to disable that on the particular app and then it runs.
I even dropped the sucker from pretty high up and nothing happened (I know, I feel stupid). I find myself really reaching for the screen, so much easier than using a mouse. I really wish more software was optimized for that. Firefox needs an update that would let me use it with my fingers (I don't mean in modern UI, I mean desktop mode).
Overall, I am really satisfied. It's a powerful machine and it's been a lot of fun setting it up.
I have had a 128 Pro since launch day. I have an RT as well (well, I should say my wife has it) and we are bot very happy with the Surface.
I have a 64gb pro (Couldn't find the 128) and bought the 128 off of MS. Going to keep this one and return it later when I get my 128. I am quite happy with it. Although it is weird to adjust to the touch keyboard. I couldn't handle the type. It was nice, but too thick and weird when folded back. Overall, it runs like a champ. 5 sec boot. 3 sec shut down. 6+ hours when just using onenote mostly. I love it. Now, it would replace my laptop if I could just get my hands on the 128. Soon. The only thing I'm disappointed in is Chrome support for Windows 8 and touch screens. It's pretty crappy to be honest.
I've had mine for almost a week now - still getting used to it.
I have the 128 GB version - replacing my old 2 year old Alienware M11x R1 (relegated now to my daughter for her school PC) - quite simply - the SP is what I was originally looking for when I bought the M11x..
I run Office, various browsers, many other apps, as well as code on it.. doesn't miss a beat. Averages around 5-6+ hours on a single "typical" charge doing standard "productive" (which you cannot do on an Android/iPad tablet) by my estimates - less if you watch a lot of youtube/streaming videos.
Make no mistake - this *IS* a PC wrapped in a tablet format. To that end - it has some quirks in trying to accommodate both form factors - and it's very unapologetic in the way it attempts to stay the course between these 2 very different form factors. To be clear - *you* must adapt to it..
That being said - my 2 cents - it's lighter and much more portable than an ultrabook, and much more useful than the typical "consumer" driven tablets of Android/iOS...
Combine the 2 (again it doesn't give you a choice.. ) - you have a very unique experience that you'll either immediately fall in love with - or hate.. I'll be the first to admit that it's not going to be a device for "everyone" - but I also believe that MS has a winner on their hands in the form of a truly productive, viable, and unique device that will ultimately be adopted much more widely in professional and enterprise environments than the "typical" consumer market - though I imagine it'll do quite well there as well - especially for students..
To answer your question - yes I'd recommend it and yes I'm keeping it..
I had the RT for 20 days and took it back for the pro.Would never recommend an RT for someone with similar wants and needs. I am so glad I did and the timing was perfect. It is what I wanted in a tablet/laptop.
Still waiting here in the UK.... :/
I've got an RT and once the Pro is out I'll get one, then the one I dont like will go to the tech here at work...
I have had the 128 for 6 days. So far, I am using it as a replacement for the HP envy15. I was already using windows 8 on a desktop, but windows 8 on a tablet is cool. The device gets a little warm, as I use it all day, but so far its great. You cant beat having access to legacy apps on a tablet. I cant wait for the app market to grow.
Love my pro
The 128 was never in stock but I have a 64 gb micro sd for storage.
This unit replaced my iPad mini and Lenovo Yoga 13.
Even though I bought it from Staples I was still able to get Microsoft complete warranty on it. Best $149 you can spend, it includes accidental.
Got the 64 GB with type keyboard running Ubuntu 12.10 loving this thing!
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Got the 64 GB with type keyboard running Ubuntu 12.10 loving this thing!
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How'd you get the wifi drivers working on 12.10? I'm still having issues with that.
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How'd you get the wifi drivers working on 12.10? I'm still having issues with that.
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You'll need a USB to ethernet adaptor with plug and play functionality on linux (most branded ones work I think) and then start up the tablet with the adaptor plugged in and connected properly etc. I think ubuntu then normally prompts for driver installs which it will do via the ethernet.
Using USB WiFi adaptor. I asked over in Ubuntu irc and they said there's a bug with the Marvell drivers and a fix is being issued.
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Picked up at 128gb pro on monday. The build quality is great, but it's just a bit heavy to use as a tablet. It's doable, but really it's better suited sitting on a desk with the stand. I was previously using a Lenovo Thinkpad Tablet 2 but it was too slow to run certain programs needed for work (large excel sheets, MATLAB, Access, etc). The battery life is as advertise - I get around 5 hours with brightness at half. I thought I'd be able to stretch it to 6 hours but there really isn't much optimizing left to do so I haven't been able to. Compared to any arm based tablet, yea the battery life is weak but really it has the specs of a real laptop and compared to the MacBook Air 11" it has the same battery life with a better screen and weighs less so it's quite a nice machine imo. I didn't think I would need the digitizer and pen but I'm finding more ways to use it and it makes for a nice addition. I kind of wish Microsoft went with a 16:10 form factor though... 16:9 tablets are really just too narrow and awkward to be used in portrait mode when holding it like a tablet.
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Picked up at 128gb pro on monday. The build quality is great, but it's just a bit heavy to use as a tablet. It's doable, but really it's better suited sitting on a desk with the stand. I was previously using a Lenovo Thinkpad Tablet 2 but it was too slow to run certain programs needed for work (large excel sheets, MATLAB, Access, etc). The battery life is as advertise - I get around 5 hours with brightness at half. I thought I'd be able to stretch it to 6 hours but there really isn't much optimizing left to do so I haven't been able to. Compared to any arm based tablet, yea the battery life is weak but really it has the specs of a real laptop and compared to the MacBook Air 11" it has the same battery life with a better screen and weighs less so it's quite a nice machine imo. I didn't think I would need the digitizer and pen but I'm finding more ways to use it and it makes for a nice addition. I kind of wish Microsoft went with a 16:10 form factor though... 16:9 tablets are really just too narrow and awkward to be used in portrait mode when holding it like a tablet.
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16:10 isn't going to make it any better in portrait mode. The Surface just isn't designed to be used in portrait mode. It's awkward and Metro is optimized for landscape mode.
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Using USB WiFi adaptor. I asked over in Ubuntu irc and they said there's a bug with the Marvell drivers and a fix is being issued.
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There is a driver update if you do it through device manager. Can't check speeds till i get home.
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There is a driver update if you do it through device manager. Can't check speeds till i get home.
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That didn't work for me before but works now! Thanks for the info! its running well here
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There is a driver update if you do it through device manager. Can't check speeds till i get home.
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Can you post the file for the update?