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Hey Guys, I'm interested in getting one of those R2D2 DROID 2 phones and I wish to use it on the optus network in Australia.
I believe optus uses a dual band 900/1900mhz ?
Some questions I have are too people that have tried this already.
Will the 3G data work on this phone?
How difficult and what modding needs to be done on this phone to get it too work?
Thanks for the help peeps : )
Let me get this straight.
You're asking whether you can use DROID2 R2D2 (a CDMA-only device that supports CDMA2000 and 3G CDMA 1x EV-DO Rev.A) on Optus's GSM network operating on 900/1800MHz bands with 3G UMTS/HSPA?
So, you want to use a pure CDMA device with no GSM support whatsoever on a GSM network, right?
Hardware wise this is almost identical to the milestone 2 right? I've heard that in other countries with the Verizon phone roaming is enabled so it would work with other networks? Excuse the noob question. How is cdma different to GSM?
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CDMA is one standard. GSM is another. There is almost nothing similar between these. Here's a question: how do you fit a GSM SIM card into a DROID2 R2D2? It has no SIM card slot.
Verizon CDMA devices can roam on CDMA networks.
Verizon Global phones can use GSM networks, because they have a GSM+CDMA transceiver in them.
The DROID2 (and the R2D2 variant) isn't a Global device.
The DROID2 GLOBAL is.
Please refer to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDMA2000 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSM so that you can stop asking these… weird questions.
How is it a weird question?
Some have modded/flashed the DROID 4 which is CDMA phone to work on GSM.
I am merely asking if its possible or if anyone's tried it.
DROID4 is a Global device. It has a CDMA+GSM+LTE transceiver.
DROID2 doesn't.
I was wondering if the Droid Razr Maxx HD for Verizon will work in Canada or do we have to wait for them to release a GSM/International model?
Pretty sure it won't on the HSPA/LTE networks. Only AT&T phones have the bands to support the Bell/Telus/Rogers HSPA/LTE networks.
I just need to figure out where I can buy a canadian one from now to use on AT&T...
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With VZWs newest spectrum deals, I thought they had to leave their LTE phones unlocked now? Even so, if it was unlocked with its global GSM capabilities turned on, I think it would only get HSPA+/UTMS/EDGE on AT&T...
overlord727 said:
I just need to figure out where I can buy a canadian one from now to use on AT&T...
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With VZWs newest spectrum deals, I thought they had to leave their LTE phones unlocked now? Even so, if it was unlocked with its global GSM capabilities turned on, I think it would only get HSPA+/UTMS/EDGE on AT&T...
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You could find a Canadian to pick up one for you and have it shipped over. It would put you back about $700 for a brand new one shipped to you ($600 + $72(tax in BC) + $25 (shipping) + $7(unlock)).
I'm not sure of VZW's LTE phone unlock status, but I think you'd only be able to get GSM network (EDGE) on this phone on AT&T.
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Pretty sure it won't on the HSPA/LTE networks. Only AT&T phones have the bands to support the Bell/Telus/Rogers HSPA/LTE networks.
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The Razr HD is quad band for 3G (HSDPA), which means it supports pretty much every network. Only LTE won't work.
pfak said:
The Razr HD is quad band for 3G (HSDPA), which means it supports pretty much every network. Only LTE won't work.
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My mistake! You are absolutely correct. I should read a bit more before I respond!
Here are the supported bands:
Droid Razr HD
CDMA 800 1900, LTE B13, WCDMA 850 900 1900 2100, GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900 EVDO Rev. A, HSDPA 21.1 Mbps (Cat 14), HSUPA 5.76 Mbps
Rogers Razr HD LTE
LTE B4 B17, WCDMA 850 900 1900 2100, GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900, HSDPA 21.1 Mbps (Cat 14), HSUPA 5.76 Mbps
does this phone could get unlocked to work in mexico? right now mexico dont support LTE/4g but at the same time Telcel, Movistar and Iusacell got the Galaxy S3, and this one supports 4g/lte, but i dont know if i can get one hd from verizon to get it work here on mexico, as far as i know, mexico works with gsm phones right? and this one is cdma
Pretty expensive! I think I might just wait to see if someone with a VZW one can prove if it works on a GSM carrier... Or wait for the next nexus...
Where are you guys purchasing your MAXX HD in Canada? The usual online suspects don't have it yet.
So would the Razr Maxx HD (verizon model) work in Canada (telus) on 4G or would it only be 3G/Edge service?
mcsingh said:
So would the Razr Maxx HD (verizon model) work in Canada (telus) on 4G or would it only be 3G/Edge service?
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Based on the charts:
LTE = No
HSPA = Yes
GSM = Yes
The 4G moniker is misleading. It should be used for LTE, but the providers in Canada have called their 3G+ networks (HSPA) 4G and confusing all their customers.
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pfak said:
Where are you guys purchasing your MAXX HD in Canada? The usual online suspects don't have it yet.
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My bad. I was talking about the Razr HD LTE, not the MAXX HD. I don't know of anyone in Canada selling the MAXX HD.
rajeshr said:
Based on the charts:
LTE = No
HSPA = Yes
GSM = Yes
The 4G moniker is misleading. It should be used for LTE, but the providers in Canada have called their 3G+ networks (HSPA) 4G and confusing all their customers.
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My bad. I was talking about the Razr HD LTE, not the MAXX HD. I don't know of anyone in Canada selling the MAXX HD.
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Based on your reply, you are telling us that this devices should work out of the box, with no additional software modification on international carriers, right?
One thing that wasn't clear to me is, does the Verizon devices (or at least any Razr HD) are sold with unlocked GSM radios?
@OP wait a month.I expect either Telus of Bell to pick up the MAXX version for the holidays. I couldn't wait nor wanted the MAXX, but my bet is on Bell picking up the MAXX.
hex_hack said:
Based on your reply, you are telling us that this devices should work out of the box, with no additional software modification on international carriers, right?
One thing that wasn't clear to me is, does the Verizon devices (or at least any Razr HD) are sold with unlocked GSM radios?
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No, that's not exactly what I said.
Sorry to be pedantic, but what I said was the Verizon Razr HD has the radios required to be compatible with the Bell\Rogers\Telus HSPA & the Rogers GSM network in Canada. I am not saying that this device would work out of the box without any modification as I do not know whether the Verizon Razr HD (or Razr HD MAXX) is unlocked for these carriers. If it is unlocked, it should work without any other modifications. However, if not, I assume you can get an unlock code to allow other networks to be used.
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No, that's not exactly what I said.
Sorry to be pedantic, but what I said was the Verizon Razr HD has the radios required to be compatible with the Bell\Rogers\Telus HSPA & the Rogers GSM network in Canada. I am not saying that this device would work out of the box without any modification as I do not know whether the Verizon Razr HD (or Razr HD MAXX) is unlocked for these carriers. If it is unlocked, it should work without any other modifications. However, if not, I assume you can get an unlock code to allow other networks to be used.
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Thanks for your answer, now it would be good if someone could confirm the lock status of the GSM radio of these devices.
Motorola razr droid maxx hd
I want to buy a phone and use Verizone in another country is not USA, how to get the unlock code and when it might occur? It makes sense to buy the phone and wait? The phone will work with GSM without code unlock????
hex_hack said:
Thanks for your answer, now it would be good if someone could confirm the lock status of the GSM radio of these devices.
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For what its worth, I emailed Verizon and the dude that replied told me that it was GSM unlocked for carriers outside USA.
"Thank you for your inquiry regarding the Droid Razr Maxx HD. My name is Michael, and I am happy to confirm that this device is unlocked as well. You would simply need to power off the device, insert the sim card that you would use overseas, and then power it back on to use it."
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For what its worth, I emailed Verizon and the dude that replied told me that it was GSM unlocked for carriers outside USA.
"Thank you for your inquiry regarding the Droid Razr Maxx HD. My name is Michael, and I am happy to confirm that this device is unlocked as well. You would simply need to power off the device, insert the sim card that you would use overseas, and then power it back on to use it."
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It would be unlocking it with a subsidy code or something like cellunlocking.net right? Im thinking to buy the razr maxx hd with verizon and use it here in mexico but first i need to be sure that it would work
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Verizon informed me that their 'world phones' (e.g. their razr series) are sim-unlocked for international use from the manufacturer.
However some people have reported that for AT&T and TMobile (national GSM carrier) that they have blocked their SIM usage.
Therefore I would assume that all bands would be available to use if you had any international SIM in there, Canada and Mexico etc, the only compatibility would be the LTE bands - if another country used the same LTE bands as the USA Razr, then I would think you would be able to utilise the 4g.
versd said:
Verizon informed me that their 'world phones' (e.g. their razr series) are sim-unlocked for international use from the manufacturer.
However some people have reported that for AT&T and TMobile (national GSM carrier) that they have blocked their SIM usage.
Therefore I would assume that all bands would be available to use if you had any international SIM in there, Canada and Mexico etc, the only compatibility would be the LTE bands - if another country used the same LTE bands as the USA Razr, then I would think you would be able to utilise the 4g.
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If theres not compability with 4g it would be on 3g/H?
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Hi Guys,
So I got a new Razr HD from Verizon, and took it to Canada where I live. I travel a lot from the USA to Canada. The phone specs seem to indicate that it has all the bands necessary to support all the GSM and LTE bands as well as CDMA when in the states. I was able to easily get 3G/H+ service from Rogers in Canada by simply changing the Network Mode to GSM/UMTS instead of Global and then adding an APN for Rogers. However, I cannot get LTE service. The LTE choice seems to be bundled with CDMA LTE/CDMA but I don't think that matters, I think its just a radio choice. However, when selecting this, I get an error from the phone saying "No LTE networks could be found" and Do I want to switch to GSM?
This is sad because the phone would be excellent on LTE. Does anyone know how to get a Verizon branded phone to run on Rogers LTE?
If you have any ideas let me know, I will test them.
Thanks,
Blue
BluePlanetMan said:
Hi Guys,
So I got a new Razr HD from Verizon, and took it to Canada where I live. I travel a lot from the USA to Canada. The phone specs seem to indicate that it has all the bands necessary to support all the GSM and LTE bands as well as CDMA when in the states. I was able to easily get 3G/H+ service from Rogers in Canada by simply changing the Network Mode to GSM/UMTS instead of Global and then adding an APN for Rogers. However, I cannot get LTE service. The LTE choice seems to be bundled with CDMA LTE/CDMA but I don't think that matters, I think its just a radio choice. However, when selecting this, I get an error from the phone saying "No LTE networks could be found" and Do I want to switch to GSM?
This is sad because the phone would be excellent on LTE. Does anyone know how to get a Verizon branded phone to run on Rogers LTE?
If you have any ideas let me know, I will test them.
Thanks,
Blue
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Short answer, you can't. Different LTE bands. Rogers is 4 and 17, Verizon is 1, 3, 5, 13, 25. No overlap, and no-one currently makes LTE hardware that supports ALL LTE bands.
EdwardN said:
Short answer, you can't. Different LTE bands. Rogers is 4 and 17, Verizon is 1, 3, 5, 13, 25. No overlap, and no-one currently makes LTE hardware that supports ALL LTE bands.
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Just wanted to add to this... I tested my Samsung Galaxy S3, a generic version that I got from Amazon, works on AT&T in the USA on LTE and in ROGERS in Canada. Too bad the Verizon Droid does not support a similar global LTE band. Or does AT&T and Rogers simply have the same LTE bands???
BluePlanetMan said:
Just wanted to add to this... I tested my Samsung Galaxy S3, a generic version that I got from Amazon, works on AT&T in the USA on LTE and in ROGERS in Canada. Too bad the Verizon Droid does not support a similar global LTE band. Or does AT&T and Rogers simply have the same LTE bands???
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Yes, AT&T and Rogers have maintained the same bands since they were partnered maybe 10 years ago. Fido is owned by Rogers, so it also uses the same, from GSM up to LTE.
Neither AT&T or Verizon use "global" LTE bands, because there aren't any. Almost every country/provider uses different bands. There's some crossover, but with LTE, buy a phone for the market you are in, because you probably couldn't afford the roaming rates abroad anyway.
Hey guys, I think I have a related question.. maybe you guys can help
I live in Toronto and Rogers is my wireless carrier. From my understanding, Rogers operates on band 4 (1700 / 2100 mhz) as well as 2600 Mhz.
I am thinking of gettnig the new DROID MAXX from Verizon. I have tried asking the Verizon / Motorola reps about whether the LTE would work in Canada but wasn't able to get a firm answer.
From the Motorola website, however, as well as from gsmarena.com, it looks like the DROID MAXX will have access to not only LTE 700mhz, but also at 1700 and 2100 mhz.
What are the chances that this phone will work on Rogers LTE?
Really hoping it could work out... let me know if you guys have any ideas..
do the phone have the same radio?
because my wife has a razr m and i was able to flash the Australian radio on it and now it works with tmobile and att
so just wondering if this is possible with the razr hd
here is a link to the razr m radio unlock
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2017987
i think it's the same
so if i flash the same radio as i did on the razr m it should work
it works i have it working on tmobile usa
http://flic.kr/p/dxmsdr
http://flic.kr/p/dxrUbh
But does it get 3G / HSPA+ signal?
I'm excited that you got it working on Tmobile, but does it only do EDGE speeds on Tmo? Does it do 3G or HSPA+?
So far only got Edge working at 2G speeds.
Have not managed to have it see 3G or 4G or even H.
I was right under a 3G area and 4G Lte Area ,.... nothing
My area is T-Mobile Houston and its been Refarmed already also
so for information for others that are interested, like me, what radio is flashed on the razr HD so an att or t-mo SIM works? links would be nice for the step by step...thanks.
This has been achieved -- more info available here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2022296
To all developers and devs , is there is any way to unlock any hidden lte bands in Droid ultra xt1080?? I'm in India and having band 3 or 40 is any way to unlock these ???? if any help should be appreciated..
aneeshmbabu said:
To all developers and devs , is there is any way to unlock any hidden lte bands in Droid ultra xt1080?? I'm in India and having band 3 or 40 is any way to unlock these ???? if any help should be appreciated..
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what do you mean by band 3 or 40, please elaborate? What network are you trying to use?
I am using Droid mini (XT1030) and it has worked fine with almost every GSm service provider in India.
4 G lte bands .. unfortunately in India/using band 3 and band 40 but Droid Maxx don't have those bands .. my question is some people are claiming can possible to unlock lte bands I'm qualicom devices .. so Is this possible in our Verizon droid Maxx case ?
aneeshmbabu said:
4 G lte bands .. unfortunately in India/using band 3 and band 40 but Droid Maxx don't have those bands .. my question is some people are claiming can possible to unlock lte bands I'm qualicom devices .. so Is this possible in our Verizon droid Maxx case ?
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well, I do not know about the 4G bands in India. I am not sure if its even worth a shot. I am in Bangalore and even 3g is poor at its bet over here... forget about 4G
What is the status of unlocking band 3 (LTE 1800 Mhz) which will be used by Idea cellular in a few months from now?
Has anyone unlocked band 3 on the Droid Maxx (XT1080) and also Droid Razr HD (XT926)?
Ironically I'm also interested in this. Using O2 in the UK and it uses 800 mhz for its 4g, while the Maxx supposedly doesn't support it.
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I think you must try QPST ...
Google for QPST and how to use that on Qualcomm devices... This may help