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i am i need of phones that will work on the Rogers hspa 3g network in canada. i right now have a tmobile hd2 running android 2.3 and i got my wife a tmobile mytouch 3g running android 2.2. but from the information i found we will not get the 3g band because the phones 3g frequencies are wrong. can anybody help me confirm that? we right now use them but they are only on the 2g band and our reception is pretty terrible right now. if that is the case can anybody tell me if at&t phones operate 3g on the right frequency for rogers? thanks allot.
im specifically wanting to know if the Samsung Captivate S will work on rogers 3g. thanks!(but if somebody can tell me if most at&t 3g phones will work on rogers that would be greatly appreciated. thanks!)
chk Nexus S
Check out Nexus S ...might be available soon in canada for rogers
yeah the nexus s looks nice, but i still need to know if at&t and rogers operate on the same 3g band. because the tmobile phones we have do not work on the rogers 3g.....
I was wondering if the Droid Razr Maxx HD for Verizon will work in Canada or do we have to wait for them to release a GSM/International model?
Pretty sure it won't on the HSPA/LTE networks. Only AT&T phones have the bands to support the Bell/Telus/Rogers HSPA/LTE networks.
I just need to figure out where I can buy a canadian one from now to use on AT&T...
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With VZWs newest spectrum deals, I thought they had to leave their LTE phones unlocked now? Even so, if it was unlocked with its global GSM capabilities turned on, I think it would only get HSPA+/UTMS/EDGE on AT&T...
overlord727 said:
I just need to figure out where I can buy a canadian one from now to use on AT&T...
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With VZWs newest spectrum deals, I thought they had to leave their LTE phones unlocked now? Even so, if it was unlocked with its global GSM capabilities turned on, I think it would only get HSPA+/UTMS/EDGE on AT&T...
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You could find a Canadian to pick up one for you and have it shipped over. It would put you back about $700 for a brand new one shipped to you ($600 + $72(tax in BC) + $25 (shipping) + $7(unlock)).
I'm not sure of VZW's LTE phone unlock status, but I think you'd only be able to get GSM network (EDGE) on this phone on AT&T.
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Pretty sure it won't on the HSPA/LTE networks. Only AT&T phones have the bands to support the Bell/Telus/Rogers HSPA/LTE networks.
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The Razr HD is quad band for 3G (HSDPA), which means it supports pretty much every network. Only LTE won't work.
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The Razr HD is quad band for 3G (HSDPA), which means it supports pretty much every network. Only LTE won't work.
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My mistake! You are absolutely correct. I should read a bit more before I respond!
Here are the supported bands:
Droid Razr HD
CDMA 800 1900, LTE B13, WCDMA 850 900 1900 2100, GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900 EVDO Rev. A, HSDPA 21.1 Mbps (Cat 14), HSUPA 5.76 Mbps
Rogers Razr HD LTE
LTE B4 B17, WCDMA 850 900 1900 2100, GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900, HSDPA 21.1 Mbps (Cat 14), HSUPA 5.76 Mbps
does this phone could get unlocked to work in mexico? right now mexico dont support LTE/4g but at the same time Telcel, Movistar and Iusacell got the Galaxy S3, and this one supports 4g/lte, but i dont know if i can get one hd from verizon to get it work here on mexico, as far as i know, mexico works with gsm phones right? and this one is cdma
Pretty expensive! I think I might just wait to see if someone with a VZW one can prove if it works on a GSM carrier... Or wait for the next nexus...
Where are you guys purchasing your MAXX HD in Canada? The usual online suspects don't have it yet.
So would the Razr Maxx HD (verizon model) work in Canada (telus) on 4G or would it only be 3G/Edge service?
mcsingh said:
So would the Razr Maxx HD (verizon model) work in Canada (telus) on 4G or would it only be 3G/Edge service?
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Based on the charts:
LTE = No
HSPA = Yes
GSM = Yes
The 4G moniker is misleading. It should be used for LTE, but the providers in Canada have called their 3G+ networks (HSPA) 4G and confusing all their customers.
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Where are you guys purchasing your MAXX HD in Canada? The usual online suspects don't have it yet.
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My bad. I was talking about the Razr HD LTE, not the MAXX HD. I don't know of anyone in Canada selling the MAXX HD.
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Based on the charts:
LTE = No
HSPA = Yes
GSM = Yes
The 4G moniker is misleading. It should be used for LTE, but the providers in Canada have called their 3G+ networks (HSPA) 4G and confusing all their customers.
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My bad. I was talking about the Razr HD LTE, not the MAXX HD. I don't know of anyone in Canada selling the MAXX HD.
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Based on your reply, you are telling us that this devices should work out of the box, with no additional software modification on international carriers, right?
One thing that wasn't clear to me is, does the Verizon devices (or at least any Razr HD) are sold with unlocked GSM radios?
@OP wait a month.I expect either Telus of Bell to pick up the MAXX version for the holidays. I couldn't wait nor wanted the MAXX, but my bet is on Bell picking up the MAXX.
hex_hack said:
Based on your reply, you are telling us that this devices should work out of the box, with no additional software modification on international carriers, right?
One thing that wasn't clear to me is, does the Verizon devices (or at least any Razr HD) are sold with unlocked GSM radios?
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No, that's not exactly what I said.
Sorry to be pedantic, but what I said was the Verizon Razr HD has the radios required to be compatible with the Bell\Rogers\Telus HSPA & the Rogers GSM network in Canada. I am not saying that this device would work out of the box without any modification as I do not know whether the Verizon Razr HD (or Razr HD MAXX) is unlocked for these carriers. If it is unlocked, it should work without any other modifications. However, if not, I assume you can get an unlock code to allow other networks to be used.
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No, that's not exactly what I said.
Sorry to be pedantic, but what I said was the Verizon Razr HD has the radios required to be compatible with the Bell\Rogers\Telus HSPA & the Rogers GSM network in Canada. I am not saying that this device would work out of the box without any modification as I do not know whether the Verizon Razr HD (or Razr HD MAXX) is unlocked for these carriers. If it is unlocked, it should work without any other modifications. However, if not, I assume you can get an unlock code to allow other networks to be used.
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Thanks for your answer, now it would be good if someone could confirm the lock status of the GSM radio of these devices.
Motorola razr droid maxx hd
I want to buy a phone and use Verizone in another country is not USA, how to get the unlock code and when it might occur? It makes sense to buy the phone and wait? The phone will work with GSM without code unlock????
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Thanks for your answer, now it would be good if someone could confirm the lock status of the GSM radio of these devices.
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For what its worth, I emailed Verizon and the dude that replied told me that it was GSM unlocked for carriers outside USA.
"Thank you for your inquiry regarding the Droid Razr Maxx HD. My name is Michael, and I am happy to confirm that this device is unlocked as well. You would simply need to power off the device, insert the sim card that you would use overseas, and then power it back on to use it."
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For what its worth, I emailed Verizon and the dude that replied told me that it was GSM unlocked for carriers outside USA.
"Thank you for your inquiry regarding the Droid Razr Maxx HD. My name is Michael, and I am happy to confirm that this device is unlocked as well. You would simply need to power off the device, insert the sim card that you would use overseas, and then power it back on to use it."
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It would be unlocking it with a subsidy code or something like cellunlocking.net right? Im thinking to buy the razr maxx hd with verizon and use it here in mexico but first i need to be sure that it would work
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Verizon informed me that their 'world phones' (e.g. their razr series) are sim-unlocked for international use from the manufacturer.
However some people have reported that for AT&T and TMobile (national GSM carrier) that they have blocked their SIM usage.
Therefore I would assume that all bands would be available to use if you had any international SIM in there, Canada and Mexico etc, the only compatibility would be the LTE bands - if another country used the same LTE bands as the USA Razr, then I would think you would be able to utilise the 4g.
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Verizon informed me that their 'world phones' (e.g. their razr series) are sim-unlocked for international use from the manufacturer.
However some people have reported that for AT&T and TMobile (national GSM carrier) that they have blocked their SIM usage.
Therefore I would assume that all bands would be available to use if you had any international SIM in there, Canada and Mexico etc, the only compatibility would be the LTE bands - if another country used the same LTE bands as the USA Razr, then I would think you would be able to utilise the 4g.
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If theres not compability with 4g it would be on 3g/H?
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I keep hearing conflicting reports from users on here can people using the rogers unit here in the states on at&t please confirm if you are in fact getting LTE?
yes it does get at&t LTE and has been confirmed
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yes it does get at&t LTE and has been confirmed
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Can u point me to where because All I saw was one screenshot of a guy saying he had it working but it didnt actually say LTE by the signal bar. The other people in the thread werent having any luck and were stuck on hspa.
The 4g symbol on the rogers version means its connected to lte, it would read h+ on hspa
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Huh. No, the Rogers Razr HD uses LTE as the icon for LTE. I have one on Rogers in Vancouver, and I get an LTE icon when connected.
EdwardN said:
Huh. No, the Rogers Razr HD uses LTE as the icon for LTE. I have one on Rogers in Vancouver, and I get an LTE icon when connected.
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Thats what I thought. Can someone who is actually using it on AT&T confirm they are in fact getting LTE?
I'm interested in this as well.
PLEASE SOMEONE USING A ROGER'S RAZR HD on AT&T PLEASE CONFIRM YOU ARE IN FACT GETTING LTE??!!
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PLEASE SOMEONE USING A ROGER'S RAZR HD on AT&T PLEASE CONFIRM YOU ARE IN FACT GETTING LTE??!!
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This is by no means definitive for all part of the US but I am in AT&T's Philadelphia market and using the SAME SIM in the SAME LOCATION, I CAN get LTE on my Motorola Atrix HD, then move the SIM to an Unlocked Rogers XT925 and only get HSDPA +. Both phones have the same APN settings (APN=PTA). I've even tried creating a separate LTE APN per another XDA-DEV thread with no luck.
If any one else has gotten LTE on the XT925, please share how you did it.
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This is by no means definitive for all part of the US but I am in AT&T's Philadelphia market and using the SAME SIM in the SAME LOCATION, I CAN get LTE on my Motorola Atrix HD, then move the SIM to an Unlocked Rogers XT925 and only get HSDPA +. Both phones have the same APN settings (APN=PTA). I've even tried creating a separate LTE APN per another XDA-DEV thread with no luck.
If any one else has gotten LTE on the XT925, please share how you did it.
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Under the signal bars do you see 4G or H+? I have confirmed LTE works fine on the Razr HD as long as you have the correct data plan and are using the PTA apn. What might be confusing you is the Rogers RAZR HD displays 4G here in the states when connected to LTE and H+ when connected to HSPA/HSDPA. Hope that addresses your concern. Run a speed test to confirm my findings are 100% accurate.
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Under the signal bars do you see 4G or H+? I have confirmed LTE works fine on the Razr HD as long as you have the correct data plan and are using the PTA apn. What might be confusing you is the Rogers RAZR HD displays 4G here in the states when connected to LTE and H+ when connected to HSPA/HSDPA. Hope that addresses your concern. Run a speed test to confirm my findings are 100% accurate.
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I'm getting H+. I've confirmed the plan, function and bands I'm seeing on the network using the same SIM at the same location in an Atrix HD vs. the Razr HD. I get LTE:14 on the Atrix HD. HSDPA:9 or HSPAP:15 on the Razr HD.
Speed test (w/ same SIM, both phones in same location):
Razr HD (displays H+): 4337kbps down/ 1771kbps up
Atrix HD (displays 4G LTE): 12264kbps down/4843kbps up
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Under the signal bars do you see 4G or H+? I have confirmed LTE works fine on the Razr HD as long as you have the correct data plan and are using the PTA apn. What might be confusing you is the Rogers RAZR HD displays 4G here in the states when connected to LTE and H+ when connected to HSPA/HSDPA. Hope that addresses your concern. Run a speed test to confirm my findings are 100% accurate.
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BTW- Can you provide your APN setting for PTA for verification? And are there any other APNs loaded, just not active?
Ok. Here is an update.
I turned OFF Select Preffered Network automatically.
Did an manual search
The phone came back with 5 instances of "AT&T" (no add'l info)
Tried to attach to each one
On the 4th one, I attached and got LTE.
I did a power cycle and still have LTE because the phone should have stored the LOCI info, there is a possibility once I move out of this local area or lose LTE coverage that I may need to do a new manual selection.