Yinlips ydpg18a (5" 5-pt capacitive) - Android General

Heads up:
Doing my semi-monthly google for "android capacitive 'shoulder buttons'" to see any news on devices with gaming controls (shoulder buttons tend to be enough of a key phrase), and noticed a bit of news on Yinlips ydpg18a from a couple days ago. I'm a forum noob so no links, but it's easy enough to search the model.
Looks like another PSP-like body/controls with Android brains and some added bits (HDMI out, USB host, accelerometer) (but no GPS or bluetooth), but unlike earlier models, this one has capacitive screen. $150ish with the previous resistive model clearanced around $110, but I guess those prices may fluctuate depending on the shop.
I didn't look over the specs too hard, mainly I just balked at the JXD s7100's lack of shoulder buttons and the aforementioned PSP-likes with no capacitive screens, and my interest piqued at this Yinlips model.
I figured those Chinese factories would get around to interesting updates, but I got impatient since January and bit on a used Xperia Play which I figured would hold me fine, but I underestimated the pace they're cranking out updates to their Chinese handhelds.
Of course, I'll be waiting to see what the word is on this ydpg18a from actual users, so I figure 3-4 weeks before a good body of chatter on the matter.

Well, the new YINLIPS YDPG18A can be found at eBay website now.
Just go to eBay and write: YINLIPS YDPG18A
I also can not write links now, but it's really interesting this model.
Also AsiaPads sell this new version

Adding information, JXD launched the model JXD S5110. Also can find at eBay.
Both are capacitive screen, but JXD already supports Android 4.0

JaviR said:
Adding information, JXD launched the model JXD S5110. Also can find at eBay.
Both are capacitive screen, but JXD already supports Android 4.0
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Nope, over at dingoonity it was discovered that the S5110 actually has a resistive touch screen, 3pt.
One seller(willgoo) contacted JXD and was told that it was "between" a capacitive and resistive screen. Supposedly fairly responsive but we'll see as mine left HK latish today their time/EARLY morning my time... hope that it's routed to the local airport so I MIGHT get lucky and have it tomorrow ...

willgoo also sells the 18A, and they've been participating in the s5110 thread @ dingoonity and generally seem to be very responsive and helpful. i.e. seem to be a very good seller or so my experience so far would indicate, plus their willingness to participate in a forum, very unusual for chinese sellers or at least as far as posting on english boards goes...
My s5110 should get delivered today as it made it to local dhl delivery office about an hour ago...

Well, as I have seen on forums the capacitive or resistive screen of JXD S5110 was a problem caused by JXD it seems. Anyway I received my YDPG18A from AsiaPads without any problem in Spain this friday by EMS shipping. Service was good for me, I don't know if it's so good than Willgoo or not, but AsiaPads is ok.
Regards

i was thinking about buying a yinlips just because of the emulators
but im kind of scared of the quality of these china handhelds and battery time

JaviR said:
Well, as I have seen on forums the capacitive or resistive screen of JXD S5110 was a problem caused by JXD it seems. Anyway I received my YDPG18A from AsiaPads without any problem in Spain this friday by EMS shipping. Service was good for me, I don't know if it's so good than Willgoo or not, but AsiaPads is ok.
Regards
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So wheres the review then?

Well, I'm not an experienced user, so I'm not sure about what can I test.
My first videoconsole was an ATARI, later NES and SNES. Some years later PS2 and last was Nintendo Wii (gift), I really played few times the wii, so you can think last years I'm a little lost about videogames world but the YINLIPS makes me happy because can play those old games again and portable! Also this islike a Tablet PC (I already have a SciPad prodigy).
I think the difference between YDGP18 and YDPG18A is just the screen. Now it's Android 2.3 yet.
While I think what can I test I show a picture taked just now
(I can not write links and pics yet........ I need to write some posts more)
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By the way, I received a discount code for AsiaPads
code: ce0aa8b8
Discount: 5%
Finish: 30th JUN 2012

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New Cruz Tablet

I think we should have a section for the new Cruz Tablet. Good specs and $299 on sale at Best Buy I think alot of us will be picking this up. Also the new Viewsonic Dual boot tablet looks interesting as well.
I'm getting pretty interested in this, a little apprehensive about picking up a tablet that hasn't been rooted yet, but I've been spending a lot of time learning the android kernel and studying other root exploits, might be fun to have a fresh "slate" to work with
EDIT:
Fuggit, just put one on my credit card. I'll post when I get it. First order of business will be getting the real deal market working on it, I'm gonna look into it while it ships.
I was interested in this as well, but now I'm a little nervous. I've been to two Borders Books in my area and at the first one the eBook version worked but the tablet was dead. The sales guy said it just stopped working one day. Okay.....
So then I went to another one and the eBook was dead and they didn't have a tablet on display. Hmmm......
Then about a week past and I found myself in the first Border's again and their eBook version was dead and the tablet display was gone.
Oh, and my pre-order for the tablet was canceled by Borders. No reason given.
so I think I'll hold off on this one...seems they have some quality control issues going on...
Needs froyo
Just picked it up and its nice but without froyo I think I will return for the Archos 70 when it comes out.
cross install
seems im able to install most programs from the market and most work no problem.
Launcher pro
Launcher pro works great.
Hey guys, what is the processor listed at for The Cruz Tablet, it has never been posted on their website? My hope is its not an ARM11 cause then upgrading to froyo 2.2 will be unlikely with working FLASH.
CPG
MyTabletLife.com
I picked up a CRUZ Tablet from SEARS yesterday...
I was really looking for a Viewsonic G-Tablet but couldn't find any SEARS in the tri-state area with them in stock.
Here are my initial thoughts on the CRUZ:
nice screen
snappy processor
mine came with 2x 8GB SDHC cards
decent (loud) speakers
good battery (rated at 10 hours but haven't had time to test this)
rubbery back cover makes it easy to hold (or prop upright on desk)
capacitive home/menu/back buttons are SUPER sensitive
has dedicated volume rocker
has dock connector (but no accessories yet)
It's missing market and sync but I've been side-loading with reasonable success. It's running 2.0 so many applications will not install (Angry Birds, FBreader, etc.)
2.0? Not even 2.1? Ugh. I was afraid of that.
Any idea what the CPU is? Hopefully not Telechips.
Hoping for a decent CPU as well. trying to decide if I should keep the ViewSonic or get this one.
need root
We need to get 2.2 on this thing!! Could be great with some help
kevinniven said:
Just picked it up and its nice but without froyo I think I will return for the Archos 70 when it comes out.
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Archos 70 might have a better CPU but after a little digging I found that the cruz tablet has a lot more RAM. I can't find it now, and the archos site doesn't list the memory under specs but I remember it trumping the 70 in some way. Would really like to know what that damn cpu is, anyone get a busybox on there yet? lshw is in busybox right?
/shrug I been hearing good things. Had to put off getting mine but I'm up for some froyo or cyanogen porting.
We need a #cruz-dev irc, anyone wanna set one up? I think you can just start a room on freenode can't you?
How did you get market installed?
Here is info about the processor on the Cruz Tablet: MyTabletLife.com
Its not an ARM chip, its MIPS. Android is ported over.. 2.2 will be possible, and Flash at some point. Just all development will run behind, as its ported. Its a powerful processor, but I am not sure this was a good move. Randy on MyTabletLife found out some games wont install and say "incorrect CPU".. Could be lots of issues here.
CPG
MyTabletLife.com
Here is a video review of the Cruz tablet. Don't be to rough on me it's my first video review.
Cruz Video Review
I'm pretty sure the Tegra cpu in the Viewsonic easily trumps the cpu VM chose for the CRUZ.
I guess I just had bad luck with this then. I bought one at Best Buy and got home and started playing with it. After about 15 minutes of browsing the web, the screen went all-white and if I "flexed" the device slightly it would come back to normal. Obviously there was a short in the LCD wiring. I exchanged it for another only to find out that that one would not hold a charge. After an hour of being plugged in and not used it still said "Charging: 0%".
I promptly returned it instead of another exchange. The way I see it if I had two of these tablets and each of them had a different, fatal hardware issue I wasn't going to risk a third attempt.
I ordered a Viewsonic G Pad from Sears in spite of the bad reviews of the software. The Hardware specs read like a dream for a <$400 device and there are already Devs working to address the software issues.
With all these tablets coming out now. I see no here as mentioned Coby KYROS.
The Coby KYROS has a resistive screen
Looks like a rebranded SmartPad (EUOGO.com)
tipstir said:
With all these tablets coming out now. I see no here as mentioned Coby KYROS.
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Particular reason why you are spamming threads?

Archos Tablets?

Any plans for a section for those?
i think they have potential and my store already has the 70 and 101 in stock ready to go on sale.
i might be getting both.
just wondering if there is any interest on here to make those tablets woork their money's worth
Archos has proven them self with great products so far. I was thinking about getting the 101 but have found something else that I like a little better. Still not POSITIVE on not getting the 101 though. Would like to see an Archos section here also. There seems to be a community out there for them after watching a lot of youtube vids about some of the products (even the older products). Just wondering, where do you work exactly? I've been watching the Archos website for about a month or so and they still do not have the 101 or 70 ready to ship.
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Archos has proven them self with great products so far. I was thinking about getting the 101 but have found something else that I like a little better. Still not POSITIVE on not getting the 101 though. Would like to see an Archos section here also. There seems to be a community out there for them after watching a lot of youtube vids about some of the products (even the older products). Just wondering, where do you work exactly? I've been watching the Archos website for about a month or so and they still do not have the 101 or 70 ready to ship.
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yeah, i've been following the website also and it still does not have them ready to ship.
i work at office depot and we have both the 70 and 101 in store ready to display.
we'll most likely put them up after black friday most likely by sunday. i am guessing every office depot has it in stock also. i'll post on here as soon as they come out on the shelves.
may i ask what you found that you liked?
i'm also considering something to adapt in my car in place of my regular head unit.
i was looking at the galaxy tab but not very impressed with the pricing.
viper3ez said:
yeah, i've been following the website also and it still does not have them ready to ship.
i work at office depot and we have both the 70 and 101 in store ready to display.
we'll most likely put them up after black friday most likely by sunday. i am guessing every office depot has it in stock also. i'll post on here as soon as they come out on the shelves.
may i ask what you found that you liked?
i'm also considering something to adapt in my car in place of my regular head unit.
i was looking at the galaxy tab but not very impressed with the pricing.
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What part of the country do you live in? I'm in the south now and things seem to get here a little later than other places, if it all.
I found this and I've done some checking on the website itself to make sure everything was was the 'up and up' with them, they seem good.
http://www.merimobiles.com/M10_Android_2_2_Flash_10_1_1GHz_Capacitive_3G_p/meri0533.htm
It doesn't have the camera on it BUT I like that the screen is 4:3 like the IPad instead of the wide screen like the 101. I miss my IPad but what I really liked about it was the casing, it just felt good in my hands. I'm leaning more towards this tablet because of the IPad like casing and slightly better viewing area (in my opinion)
jagpoag said:
What part of the country do you live in? I'm in the south now and things seem to get here a little later than other places, if it all.
I found this and I've done some checking on the website itself to make sure everything was was the 'up and up' with them, they seem good.
http://www.merimobiles.com/M10_Android_2_2_Flash_10_1_1GHz_Capacitive_3G_p/meri0533.htm
It doesn't have the camera on it BUT I like that the screen is 4:3 like the IPad instead of the wide screen like the 101. I miss my IPad but what I really liked about it was the casing, it just felt good in my hands. I'm leaning more towards this tablet because of the IPad like casing and slightly better viewing area (in my opinion)
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i'm in texas.
that merimobile product looks promising with the multitouch and 1080p but other than that i'll be quite skeptical.
the reviews seem more like a question and answer session.
sounds like one guy trying to import a product from taiwan and sell over here.
and those people asking about 3g dont seem to realize that most service providers operate on different 3g frequencies.
viper3ez said:
i'm in texas.
that merimobile product looks promising with the multitouch and 1080p but other than that i'll be quite skeptical.
the reviews seem more like a question and answer session.
sounds like one guy trying to import a product from taiwan and sell over here.
and those people asking about 3g dont seem to realize that most service providers operate on different 3g frequencies.
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Yeah all of the "reviews" so far are just idiots that are asking stupid questions about it. It's not even been shipped yet..lol. Just preorder for now much like a lot of the other tablets. I've called and talked to their customer service a few times. They are based in Canada and do sell the "lower end" products I guess you would say. I'm still not sure that I'm going to be getting this tablet though. The Archos 101 has a lot that I want in a tablet (capacitive touch is a BIG for me) and if they are going to be in stock in Office Depot, that could seal the deal for me.
I just had my manager open our lockup so I can see them as he's an android fan himeself, turns out what we have is the viewsonic 10" and the archos 7 home (instead of archos 70 internet).
I'm pretty bummed. Back to stalking the archos website for ship date for me.
I just checked the Archos site and the 70 is actually available now (no more "notify me", instead they have "add to cart") wish I could say the same for the 10. Looks like we are going to waiting a while longer on that one. This is the second time I've seen the 70 available though. It only stayed that way around 20 hours last time.

[Q] quiz: why did you return your g-tablet?

I got my g-tablet from Sears on November 2 and returned it to the store yesterday. I told them it does not have flash as stated on the box and the display is of very poor quality. I got full refund.
Why did I return it?
- Nvidia quality sucks: I had dead laptop, because of defective nvidia chip. If you don't believe it check this: Apple, Dell and HP got a class action suit against Nvidia: www nvidiasettlement com. OpenGL drivers are full of bugs they may have fixed Angry Birds, but there are plenty other bugs I'm sure.
- Nvidia does not conform to standards. No NEON instructions in Tegra. They try to play their desktop video card game, by providing custom APIs and making their applications incompatible with other ARM CPUs. So far it is the opposite - applications that run good on every other Cortex A8, does not play on Tegra.
- Nvidia keep their specs closed. I tried to get information on how to hook a hardware JTAG debugger, but all specs are opened only for partners.
- The device has the worst display I've seen. In portrait mode it gives me distorted colors even when looked at 90 degrees angle.
- The device is made by Malata and not Viewsonic. There is no track history for this company and I don't want to risk my money with unknown hardware quality (software we all know sucks)
For all folks expecting Notion Ink Adam: I'm sorry but this is going to be the same crap. Notion Ink has no proven record (neither Pixel Qi),combined with a low quality Nvidia chip, this is going to hurt.
I'm going to wait for the upcoming Acer tablet with a 10-inch screen that will run a Qualcomm dual-core 1 Ghz processor (produced on the new 28nm technology, supports out of order execution).
One good word about the G-tablet: the apx mode allows you to flash any OS, but the tablet has only 512MB internal Flash, which is not enough for dual boot.
My perfect tablet needs to be a laptop replacement: that means dual boot Android/Gentoo Linux, ability to boot every other ARM OS(windows phone,etc) from a sdcard. Also it has to have a case with keyboard and mouse pad (to be used as laptop when needed).
The TnT interface shows how clueless are Viewsonic about what the people actually need.
I bought mine about 3 days ago.. and I'm returning it today because of the poor viewing angles on the screen.. and also because of the laggy ui.. even with custom roms
edit: changed my mind and I'm going to keep mine for a while. there's a lot of great work being done with custom roms that might fix the lagginess. looking forward to notion inks announcement on december 9th!
i have had mine for about a week, the only way i'm returning it is if something better comes out within my 30 day window. it certainly does have flaws but i'm gonna give it more of a chance.
I am keeping mine because I am running Android 2.2 which doesn't take advantage of the dual-core processor, and because it is more of an accessory than a laptop replacement for me. This is definitely a hacker's unit more than an out-of-the-box laptop replacement.
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To get a better one
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Keeping mine. Roebeet has been working hard to make this tablet worth something. I have no compaints with this device while running tnt lite other than the screen viewing angles. Even still, 9 times out of 10, im holding my device right in front of me so viewing angles are not as big of factor. This device is really just ahead of its time. The hardware is there, just the operating system is yet to be optimized for a 10 inch tablet with a tegra 2 processor. Roebeets tnt lite is just a sneak peak at what this thing is capable of. Once there is a 100% stock android it will run even faster, or even android 3.0. With this thing being completely open, its only a matter of time. This is a hackers paradise. Its so new that not everyone was able to get their hands on it yet. Give this thing time, i think you will be suprised what this thing can do and regret returning it.
I'm keeping mine. With a good bit of modding its actually nice to use. The screen angles are pretty bad in good lighting but is fine in low light situations. So I just use it in landscape in good light areas. Aside from the screen and sadly the TnT software this Malta pad is great. It even has a potential to be a beast as new products are released and Tegra 2 support becomes stronger.
Anything we get until Feb of next year is going to be a bit of a mess. All the top tier companies who only want to release a 100% consumer friendly product are holding off for Honeycomb. The current releases are either mid tier companies hungry for market share, bottom of the barrel companies releasing crap, and start ups like Adam using time as an opportunity.
We're on the bleeding edge and it shows. Likely the only company thats going to put in the effort needed to make this a good experience is Adam. They're a new company with something to prove. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if the their tab ends up going for $600 and still selling well.
Bottom line: If you can put up with the viewing angles and 1 reboot a day this is a decent deal. Especially if you got it for $280 like I did .
Keeping mine and bought up Sears stock for today's sale, sorry about that anyone who shops near me. These rock after being loaded up correctly
No way I'm taking my back. After flashing to TnT Lite 2.02 it's a keeper. Now if I could only get wireless tethering to work it would be golden.
does this question really belong in development?
switt said:
Bottom line: If you can put up with the viewing angles and 1 reboot a day this is a decent deal. Especially if you got it for $280 like I did .
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For $280 this tablet is a steal. There is no doubt in my mind that I would keep this tablet at that price.
However, at $417 after tax I'm on the fence about keeping this tablet. Performance wise, I can't complain. It's easily the fastest tablet on the market right now. After loading up TnT Lite with flash, this tablet is amazing. It's so much fun surfing the web. Battery life is great, this thing sips power.
but the screen, OMG the screen. It's just bad. I don't know any other way to say it. In portrait mode, it's usable but you can tell the image looks different at the top than it does at the bottom. I've found that there is really only one way to hold the tablet to get a good view and that is directly infront of you slightly below eye level.
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does this question really belong in development?
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That was my question also, but I decided not to comment as I had assumed that a mod would've moved it to general by now.
Anyways ATM I'm keeping it. My primary reason for returning it would be driven by the form factor, as I REALLY MUCH prefer 7" for tablets. Just more portable and better for reading fiction, which means IF I keep that I'll also want a complementary 7" tablet. I just find 10" to be unwieldly.
As secondary reasons I would point out the absence of various features advertised on the box itself.
Just wish that a 7" Tegra2 would come out... I'd be all over it.
Where do i get one for $280
switt said:
I'm keeping mine. With a good bit of modding its actually nice to use. The screen angles are pretty bad in good lighting but is fine in low light situations. So I just use it in landscape in good light areas. Aside from the screen and sadly the TnT software this Malta pad is great. It even has a potential to be a beast as new products are released and Tegra 2 support becomes stronger.
Anything we get until Feb of next year is going to be a bit of a mess. All the top tier companies who only want to release a 100% consumer friendly product are holding off for Honeycomb. The current releases are either mid tier companies hungry for market share, bottom of the barrel companies releasing crap, and start ups like Adam using time as an opportunity.
We're on the bleeding edge and it shows. Likely the only company thats going to put in the effort needed to make this a good experience is Adam. They're a new company with something to prove. That said, I wouldn't be surprised if the their tab ends up going for $600 and still selling well.
Bottom line: If you can put up with the viewing angles and 1 reboot a day this is a decent deal. Especially if you got it for $280 like I did .
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Where do i get one for 280$, see them at staples for 399$?
acuralegendz said:
Where do i get one for 280$, see them at staples for 399$?
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some sears outlet stores have refurbs for 279
I think the problem with the question of "why did you return it" is that the people who did return it are probably not scanning this forum anymore.
I've been scanning the negative comments (which are mostly valid crticisms, I might add), and I've compiled a list in my head:
- The crappy UI
- The crappy UI (important enough to be mentioned twice)
- The viewing angles, especially when watching while laying on a desk. (btw, flip the device around, so that the camera is on the bottom, and you can get around that).
- No official Flash yet, even though the darn icon is on the box.
- App compatibility issues, in particular the g-sensor issue in games.
- Lack of h264 high profile playback support (this is a Tegra 2 hardware limitation, btw).
- Performance, even with the UI mods. That seems to be more of an Android limitation, given that dual core is not being exploited.
- Lack of HDMI given that there's no dock, and a lack of accessories like a case.
- The bang-for-the-buck.
The last one is important because I have seen more than few posts from people returning the item who mentioned that they might have kept it of were $300, or if they could snag a $279 outlet device. It's not that the device is "bad", but more that you didn't want to break the bank for a device that is really not fully optimized yet. And I can understand that 100%.
roebeet said:
I think the problem with the question of "why did you return it" is that the people who did return it are probably not scanning this forum anymore.
I've been scanning the negative comments (which are mostly valid crticisms, I might add), and I've compiled a list in my head:
- The crappy UI
- The crappy UI (important enough to be mentioned twice)
- The viewing angles, especially when watching while laying on a desk. (btw, flip the device around, so that the camera is on the bottom, and you can get around that).
- No official Flash yet, even though the darn icon is on the box.
- App compatibility issues, in particular the g-sensor issue in games.
- Lack of h264 high profile playback support (this is a Tegra 2 hardware limitation, btw).
- Performance, even with the UI mods. That seems to be more of an Android limitation, given that dual core is not being exploited.
- Lack of HDMI given that there's no dock, and a lack of accessories like a case.
- The bang-for-the-buck.
The last one is important because I have seen more than few posts from people returning the item who mentioned that they might have kept it of were $300, or if they could snag a $279 outlet device. It's not that the device is "bad", but more that you didn't want to break the bank for a device that is really not fully optimized yet. And I can understand that 100%.
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I'm FIRMLY in the $300 camp as BOTH Staples & Sears had the gTab right next to a $299 and $249 Atom based netbooks(ASUS, Acer, Toshiba and something else...). Kind of a smack in the face to be asked to pay $400 for a less functional device, although I can kind of understand part of the reason being that the Tegra2 SoC isn't quite as cheap as ALL of the other SoCs. $400 still just seems like a hype price to me, and I do feel kind of ripped... would feel better IF it had a better camera(maybe 2) and GPS builtin... ...and if I had any REAL expectations of longterm VS support and OS upgrades, e.g. next Android version...
Yes, and I'd have to add viewing angles to my list of possible return reasons from using it a bit last night(in bed) with some sideloaded apps that forced portrait mode...
gturnersr said:
I got my g-tablet from Sears on November 2 and returned it to the store yesterday. I told them it does not have flash as stated on the box and the display is of very poor quality. I got full refund.
Why did I return it?
- Nvidia quality sucks: I had dead laptop, because of defective nvidia chip. If you don't believe it check this: Apple, Dell and HP got a class action suit against Nvidia: www nvidiasettlement com. OpenGL drivers are full of bugs they may have fixed Angry Birds, but there are plenty other bugs I'm sure.
- Nvidia does not conform to standards. No NEON instructions in Tegra. They try to play their desktop video card game, by providing custom APIs and making their applications incompatible with other ARM CPUs. So far it is the opposite - applications that run good on every other Cortex A8, does not play on Tegra.
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Wow, glad you were given an opportunity to complain about NVidia.... The class action suit you're referring to was in reality a problem of the OEM which NVidia and most OEMs covered completely. My Dell laptop at work died and was replaced with a newer model in ONE WEEK. Two year old information = FUD.
I returned mine after about 2 weeks. Didn't work well out of the box and wanted something with smaller screen. I went ahead and got the Galaxy Tab instead.
But I will be checking out the Sears Outlet for the blackfriday returns to play around with it.
Because of touch screen
I got my g tablet from Sears the day before Thanksgiving and had a lot of time to play with it. I had gotten to market to work and installed several apps and had even gotten used to the stock UI. But I am extremely disappointed in the responsiveness of the touch screen. There are time you have to press very hard on the icon to open a program. And typing is a chore. Unless there is something you have to do to calibrate the screen I will be returning it Monday. Also, I thought I read that it came with a temporary plastic film over the screen, but mine did not. There was a foam protector attached to the inside of the box.
Is there anything I can do to increase the sensitivity of the touch screen? I would love to keep it - but not with the way the touch screen is working (or NOT WORKING)
cutterjohn said:
I'm FIRMLY in the $300 camp as BOTH Staples & Sears had the gTab right next to a $299 and $249 Atom based netbooks(ASUS, Acer, Toshiba and something else...). Kind of a smack in the face to be asked to pay $400 for a less functional device, although I can kind of understand part of the reason being that the Tegra2 SoC isn't quite as cheap as ALL of the other SoCs. $400 still just seems like a hype price to me, and I do feel kind of ripped... would feel better IF it had a better camera(maybe 2) and GPS builtin... ...and if I had any REAL expectations of longterm VS support and OS upgrades, e.g. next Android version...
Yes, and I'd have to add viewing angles to my list of possible return reasons from using it a bit last night(in bed) with some sideloaded apps that forced portrait mode...
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Tegra 2 is in the starting point of it's cost curve, so about $75 of the price is cost and correlating profit margin, since companies are not going to scale to their cost
You will find that the newer Tegra 2 devices in Q1 & Q2 2011 will all be around $500, since you will then also be paying for better displays and brand names too
The display on this device is how they were able to put a Tegra 2 in it -cost balancing. Ironically, if the OEM would have rotated the display 180 degrees when building them, it would not be an issue. Display looks as good as the Archos 101- when upside down

New 7" Tablet from china

First Tablet witch ICS
With new processor and GPU. and its cost only $99
http://www.ainovo.com/
The Novo7 operates on a 1GHz MIPS-based XBurst CPU and comes incorporated with the Vivante GC860 GPU that is responsible for offering 3D graphics. Boasting of Google CTS certification, it is equipped with a 7-inch capacitive multi-touchscreen display. This slab is capable of lending support to connectivity options such as Wi-Fi 802.11b/g/n, USB 2.0, HDMI 1.3 and microSD.
Not bad for 99 bucks, might buy one
Mhh i might give it a try. Decent h/w for a nice price... <3
I am interested as well, but I may wait to see what kind of development it gets before buying....
its all sold out when i tried to buy one.
I can't wait to get my hands on one. I would buy more for my relatives if it work w/o any lag & i hope some devs get their hands on some too.
Guess I was right on time. Ordered one 2 days back. Said it will take 2 weeks before they'll start shipping. They hope it will reach me before christmas.
Screen sucks from what I've read (crappy resolution) but if I look at novo7 reviews with gingerbread on it on youtube, device looks fast and everything works.
I'll only be using it on the go and while i'm in the library studying so its perfect for me, webbrowsing and games.
And it has a microsd card slot. Perfect when I take pictures with my camera and put it in if I'm somewhere even though the resolution is not that great.
My employer is selling $99 tablets with Gingerbread, and possibly 800Mhz processors...the only saving grace is their capacitive screens.
Next up, $200 outdated resistive-screened Coby, 800Mhz, no GPU. Better? $250 Coby, 1Ghz no GPU and a VGA webcam...rejoice.
This tablet is like a bolt out of the blue for awesomeness. Thank you XDA.
Sent from my Wildfire S
Lets hope lots of devs will be able to get their hands on them. I think I'm going to wait until the 8" or 10" to come out before getting one. But, I'll probably buy my two nieces one each so they won't be fighting over one.
I finally received mine today Time to unpack it
How to i get support if i buy this tablet. will i get support from india?
I'd like to know more about this tablet. For all of you who have it: Is it worth the buy?
Ok don't be angry . I'm gonna sell it, I just had a quick look at the device to see if everything worked before selling it.
I looked round the internet and found out that the tablet is basically a regular Novo 7 tablet only with android 4.0 installed.
Then I read that the sourcecode for the regular gingerbread Novo 7 tablets has been released and they're expecting a 4.0 update.
Having paid 120 euros incl. shipping for the device and seeing that I can get the regular gingerbread Novo 7 for way cheaper, I decided to sell the device and will wait and see what the future brings.
Untill then guess its back using my HP Touchpad.
What I noticed in the 1 minute I used the device. Fast opening video and photos. Screen resolution is indeed low but actually looks better then I expected. I could see details in the photos and they looked good.
The Device itself felt great. Perfect size, not heavy. The white back looks awesome.
It actually doesnt look/feel cheap at all.
I guess overall the device is really awesome, only downside is the screen but if you can live with a normal screen instead of a supersharp screen then you should definitely get one.
So, my new Novo 7 Paladin arrived at my door about an hour ago. I live in Shanghai, so I ordered online yesterday & it arrived today.
Price was 499 RMB (or around $79 USD ), and seller paid shipping charges. Pretty amazing deal. Many sellers at that price online in China...check this link here...
I've spent maybe 30 minutes or so playing with it...
- It came with Android 4.0 installed as advertised. This is my first exposure to the new OS, so I'm still getting used to it.
- The device came with a bunch of Chinese apps & several games preloaded (a bunch of which I've already uninstalled).
- Wi-Fi fired right up & was online in moments...no problems
- It seems like a simple, solid device...not flashy by any means, but I'm not sure what more you could expect at this price point.
- I haven't tried any movies or music yet...I'm charging it up right now & will play with it more later.

JXD S5110- First ICS Handheld Game !

Hello,
I wanted to present the new portable console JXD Android 4.0! After S7100, the S610, here again a look at the PSP console, but to the credit of having established an ICS above and specifications correct for this type of machine. Also note that the selling price is 75 euros on this site: http://www.willgoo.com/jxd-s5110-game-console-android-40-wifi-otg-capacitive-screen-4g-p-247 . html
It has a capacitive screen 5 points from 5 inches.
Here are the features:
Operate System: Android 4.0
Chip: Amlogic M3 (ARM Cortex A9 1GHz CPU, 3D graphics acceleration ARM Mali400 hardware GPU), 512MB DDR3
Storage: 4GB
Flash: 10.3
Touch System: 3-point all touch screen function
Screen: 5.0-inch Capacitive Touch Screen
Resolution: 800-by-480-pixel
Extras: Gravity
Wi-Fi: 802.11 b / g / n
Video: Support RMVB, AVI, MPEG-4 ASP, DivX, WMV, FLV and F4V etc.
TV-OUT: Support 1080P HDMI out
Audio: Support MP3, WMA, OGG and FLAC etc.
E-book: Support PDF, TXT, CHM, HTML etc. and UMD
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Enjoy!
I think this is the correct link to the shop
http://www.willgoo.com/jxd-s5110-game-console-android-40-wifi-otg-capacitive-screen-4g-p-247.html
The JXD site is here
http://www.jxd.hk/products.asp?id=611&selectclassid=009006
I am watching this with great interest.
Yes, you are right for the Link, sorry for the broken link.
I have just ordered on Willgoo.
I'll come back to tell you my opinion on it.
Here is hoping for a quick root for this device. I am in the market.
I'll come back to tell you my opinion on it.
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Thank you, looking forward to that. Enjoy the unboxing
I've ordered one that should arrive this week.
I also hope it will be quickly rootable.
I already have a JXD S601 which looks like this S5110 but with a 4,3' 480x272 resistive screen.
I really like it and use it a lot....
This S5110 seems to fix the only weak point of the S601 which was for me the LCD.
We'll see....
for those want to buy this console, here is a willgoo Discount code (coupon)
willgoo201254 (8% discount)
(hope this will not considerated as spam...)
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I've just ordered mine. Curious how this CPU compares to the yinlips equivalent.
I should have looked into the CPU before purchasing, I really hope it has NEON extensions.
First thing I'll probably test is if I can set up Ubuntu in chroot.
Then maybe getting Linux to boot natively.
Does anyone know if the analog stick is mapped to the dpad as a digital control or if it's properly implemented as an analog input.
I still haven't received my console but the first feedbacks are disapointing.
The screen is a resistive one and the CPU runs at 600Mhz.
JXD just lies on the spec.
4th message down in this page :
http://boards.dingoonity.org/other-game-systems/jxd-s5110/msg40955/
Ixox said:
I still haven't received my console but the first feedbacks are disapointing.
The screen is a resistive one and the CPU runs at 600Mhz.
JXD just lies on the spec.
4th message down in this page :
http://boards.dingoonity.org/other-game-systems/jxd-s5110/msg40955/
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Ouch! That is not good news. Can you cancel the order or is it too late.
Maybe put the seller under notice that the item has been misrepresented and you will require a full refund?
600Mhz may be fixable but the resistive screen can't be.
Ixox said:
I still haven't received my console but the first feedbacks are disapointing.
The screen is a resistive one and the CPU runs at 600Mhz.
JXD just lies on the spec.
4th message down in this page :
http://boards.dingoonity.org/other-game-systems/jxd-s5110/msg40955/
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Mine left Hong Kong today(picked up in Shenzhen late yesterday afternoon(all local times -- 12h ahead of my tz)) so IF I'm REALLY lucky I MIGHT get it tomorrow dependent upon where they stage to in the US, might even be the local airport, but probably not I'd guess...
Yeah, the resistive touch screen is a bummer, but I'm going to keep mine, unless it's defective at which point I may as well just return pay extra and switch to the Yinlips YDPG18A for a little more.
IF you really wanted to, you probably could ask the seller about returning -> just don't accept the package IF you had it shipped by a private parcel service, e.g. DHL...
This has an SoC(bit better one actually) as the JXD S601 which also initially shipped clocked to 600MHz but now I think that most people can run it OK @ 800MHz(I think that even one of the official fws did this plus some customized kernels even up to 1GHz). i.e. it should be eventually possible to at least hack the kernel binary to run at higher speeds although the SoC(-a9 but gimpaed a bit of cache ram) is fabbed on a 65nm process so it might be kind of iffy wrt heat and power...
(G18A has a -a8 based SoC made on a 40nm process and actually supposedly a bit better, BOXCHIP A10D).)
My s5110 should get delivered today as it made it to local dhl delivery office about an hour ago...
I'll post once I've had a chance to play with it a bit, or better yet just wander on over to the dingoonity thread as several people there already have them and the earliest I'd expect to be able to realistically/helpfully comment would be tomorrow.
OK, mine came today. (Ordered from willgoo late friday afternoon my time, early saturday morning their time, picked up by DHL late wednesday afternoon(their time), and arrived at my house mid-afternoon Friday... pretty quick all around. I don't think that the "free" shipping is worth it for such small/light items unles they're REALLY cheap items as well...) ...but of course the drawback to this story are the 2 8GB uSD cards that I ordered from newegg still have yet to arrive(I went for the free shipping as anything else would've been a significant part of the uSD cost...)
Touch screen is VERY responsive for resistive, but not as good as any capacitive screened device that I've owned.
WiFi is GODAWFUL. (range/signal strengthwise. worst device that I've owned wrt this.)
Came with a DVD full of various pirated wares, some from my brief perusal Android apps(maybe legit free versions), and some GBA/etc. pirated roms.
US Customs opened up my DHL outer sleeve, and the box that my seller placed the JXD box in... can't tell if they nosed around further as the JXD box lacked cellohane/shrinkwrap and/or tap closing it so if they did they SURPRISINGLY repacked it neatly
Update to my s5110 experience:
rebski said:
Ouch! That is not good news. Can you cancel the order or is it too late.
Maybe put the seller under notice that the item has been misrepresented and you will require a full refund?
600Mhz may be fixable but the resistive screen can't be.
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I received mine on friday.
Screen is described now as being "between" resistive and capacitive and is certainly MUCH more responsive to nails/fingers than ANY resistive screen that I've had access to in a while, but not as sensitive as capacitive. (It is 3pt.)
WiFi is godawful. Worst by FAR signal strength in a device that I've ever seen, cannot reliably pickup my router in the backyard where ALL of my other devices have no problem. Signal strength(via status icon) seems to get pulled VERY low while connecting/obtaining IP even in the same room as the router.
Screen is ok, but viewing angles aren't spectacular but it generally never bothers me so best ask someone more anal about that sort of thing. (I own a VS gtab which has horrible viewing angles but doesn't bother me as generally I'm looking straight on at my devices when in actual use, but I can see the diff. btwn some of my devices and my Samsung Galaxy Tab 7.0+ screenwise.)
en_US ICS kb is borked by the fact that essential keys(numeric screen select/etc.) are hidden by the home/back/etc. softkeys/status bar. baidu en_US kb works ok as a replacement though.
ICS fw is stuck at 600MHz but claims 1GHz. There is a GB fw(2.3.4 IIRC) and a hacked OCed kernel available(same story as with s601).
Also available are root and play store package.
I've kept mine mostly stock ATM(sideloaded some diagnostic tools mostly) in the hopes that JXD do a fw like with the s601, higher voltage & clock rate that work for ICS fw.
Sound lag is obvious in the shipped genesis emulator, jump sound occurs a bit after pressing jump in sonic & knuckles.
Mario 64 seemed to run OK with the provided N64 emu. (see dingoonity thread)
This is all @ 600MHz/shipped ICS fw.
I've still yet to install fpse as that is my real main interest perfwise as it'll 0obviously does well enough emulating older systems & N64(which I just used as a rough perf metric given that I care little about N64).
Basically it's under a $100 w/"free" shipping option, so what can you expect? (Although they certainly could've easily done better on WiFi...)
Originally I had also though of picking up a Yinlips YDP G18A (capacitive touchscreen(for real) 5pt.) but now have decided to wait out summer/early fall to see what pops up in handhelds with game controls & SoCs.
I ordered mine from willgoo using DHL and it basically got here in 2d of shipping, Shenzhen, PRC -> Michigan. US Customs HAD opened the package, DHL shipping sleeve, cardboard outer box, but I think that at most they might have popped the lid open on the actual JXD "retail" box as everything was still neatly packaged in it when I opened it. Plastic DHL bag was hacked to hell though and has nice green US customs tape on it...
JXD S5110 to win on Openconsoles France
Hello Guys,
Today on Openconsoles France, Win a JXD S5110 !
http://caanoo.forumactif.org/t3362-win-a-jxd-s5110-contest-is-open-english-version
Enjoy !
So between the models S5100, S5110 and S3000 which is the cheapest one that's got the L R shoulder buttons and the 5 point capacitive screens? I've noticed there are also variations on the models (S5100A S5100B ... ) ?

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