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[App In Progress] Touchfree Navigation using sensors!!

Everyone in this forum (well there are exceptions) and using HD2 have issues with hard buttons, including myself, while working my Proximity Screen Off app, I thought of a completely new way of navigation for HD2!! How about using combination of sensors??
1) Shake to go back to home
2) If proximity sensor blocked less than a second go Back
3) If proximity sensor blocked less than 2-3 seconds and more than 1 second trigger
menu.
4) If proximity sensor blocked more than 3 seconds launch search
Haven't started on this yet, I need to know if this community really needs an app like this. Also please share your ideas!!!

I think it would be awesome, especially to show off

Might cause problems if the screen accidentally comes on while in your pocket.
Otherwise I like the concept.

Seems like that could have a lot of flaws, because wat if the sensor get blocked by accident while navigating through traffic
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itsme_4ucz said:
Everyone in this forum (well there are exceptions) and using HD2 have issues with hard buttons, including myself, while working my Proximity Screen Off app, I thought of a completely new way of navigation for HD2!! How about using combination of sensors??
1) Shake to go back to home
2) If proximity sensor blocked less than a second go Back
3) If proximity sensor blocked less than 2-3 seconds and more than 1 second trigger
menu.
4) If proximity sensor blocked more than 3 seconds launch search
Haven't started on this yet, I need to know if this community really needs an app like this. Also please share your ideas!!!
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Mmmm i dunno i think the seconds issue is a bit difficult bcz not everyone is able to guess how many seconds passed everytime
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I guess that a navigation based on acceleration values and sensors is a good idea:
I mean say:
1) Shake to go back to home (<--- ur idea excellent)
2) If proximity sensor blocked then trigger menu
3) Positive or negative values of acceleration along Z (vertically) determines going up and down
4) Positive or negative values of acceleration along X (horizontally) determines navigating left or right
I don't know if that can be done and how It's just an idea
Thanks for your effort

I like the shake idea using the g sensor, but the proximity sensor isn't really in an area that is easily accessible with your finger
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mm... interesting idea
but i'm not sure it will be very useful though... for me

I've not had any problems with my hard keys so not sure that this would do it for me.
However I have always thought that albums (photo and music) should go through the pictures/album covers if your device was tilted to the left or right.
On second reading you're not talking about adding this feature to apps are you, just to have some new menu and home ideas!!

is it posible to use gesture on gsensor? like moving your handset in circle to "search", move your phone from right to left to go "back"?

honestly I think this would be impractical and a waste of time.
I like the idea of G Sensor doing things though, like maybe shake to launch an app or an address to map to or something like that.

If you can solve all the technicalities, I believe this would be awesome. I guess the software would have to have a value of:
Locked screen = normal proximity sensor
More than 5 seconds blocked plus angle = call = screen off
On the other hand, what about shake the phone and a bar with soft buttons comes up on the bottom of the screen covering the launcher and not the icons, shake or press a swipe the bar and the bar goes off.
Wish I knew programming.

What about shake phone to wake up?
Not unlock but just wake up as is this is the most used action which involves hardware keys.
***sorry about my english***

indrema said:
What about shake phone to wake up?
Not unlock but just wake up as is this is the most used action which involves hardware keys.
***sorry about my english***
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so your phone is turning on in your pocket when you walk? not good
i'd say do it, but that way that blocking proximity for a tiny bit (very short, like just swype over with hand)) will bring up menu such as Vol +- (overlayed over any app) and it contains back, menu search etc...any block longer will be overlooked(so it's not doing if u sheild ur phone from sunlight or hide it in school(lol)
for waking up u can already use all buttons so shift them.

Nice idea.
I think gestures on screen with fingers are better.(if it's possible)
Like: Move with 2 fingers from right to left would be the same as a click on the "back button".
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Otherwise... i think there are some Apps who have some of these gestures... There might be problems.. :/

Please work on an app for this. That would be awesome. The proximity app is is so useful too
Or maybe just implement most used or just one or two functions like search, back, menu, etc.
Or even better let it be user defineable.
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Not a bad idea...it certainly would be in invention worthy of the name.
And it would also make our lovely HD2s super marvelous!!!!!.......atleast for showing off!!

App Button Savior has all of it. It is faster than using the proximity.
1. This would surely be usefull if you are in a car and must navigate through the menu/programm.
(button savior icons are too small for this if you are in a car)
usefull for back/forward/start programm like google voice etc etc.
2. Option automatic activate the app if the phone is hooked to micro usb.

Problem with multitouch

When I press and hold 1 finger on the screen at the exact same spot and then tap with another finger, the phone thinks I am pressing with 2 fingers even though i already released the second one. When I move my finger just a millimeter on the screen, it realizes i am only pressing with one finger and the other 'false' input disappears. This leads to problems with games that have a joypad like input and another button, when pressing the button and releasing the joypad, the phone still thinks I am pressing on the joypad... Are you guys experiencing the same? It makes some games unplayable

Try to disable HTC Gestes ?

Yeah, forgot to mention, I disabled htc gestures, but problem remains. Is this touchscreen lower quality? it can only track up to five fingers
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It's weird, I haven't any problems with my touchscreen. I read the HTC One S's touchscreen can track up to 10 fingers...

My One S (US) can only track 2. Might be defective screen but that's the case with my One S
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You can only use 2 finger multitouch if you have the htc gestures option enabled (settings->display & gestures->htc gestures). If you don't have it enabled you can use up to 5.
I got an email from htc that I could request them to enable more fingers on screen for a further update. He also said that I should boot the phone in safe mode and see if I still have my problem, but when booting in safe mode I don't have any apps to check if i still encounter my problem....

sorry if I ask this after a year but have you by any chance solved the problem? I'm experimenting the exact same issue and it makes it impossible to play some games
thanks,
Luca

[Q] Double Tap To Wake While On A Table

According to a tweet from HTC (https://twitter.com/htc/status/461511570959663104), you're supposed to be able to double tap the screen while it is sleeping in order to wake the device.
This doesn't work for me unless I do it really hard or have it in my hand. Anyone have the same experience? Any setting I need to change? Maybe it's my ROM? (Skyfall)

Are you using enough of your finger to tap it?
On mine I have to almost tap it with the full pad of the end of my finger. I can't just double-tap with the tip of my finger.

Yeah, that's never worked for me either. It seems like the sensor only gets activated once I pick it up.

Yeah someone in marketing was misinformed. Unless you're using a custom kernel, you need to move the device first to get it to wake from a tap or swipe

Thanks for the feedback. I ask because someone tweeted @ me: "Bring your unit back to the carrier you purchased it from. It's worked fine for us with no issue at all."

For me, I tap the screen once and then double tap it right after. Seems to do the job.
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Settings, display and gestures, g sensor calibration. Calibrate it poorly intentionally slanted against a book or whatnot. It thinks your device is tilted when it is laying down.
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well really its like this ==> Settings/Display & gestures/Motion Launch Gestures/HELP =(look (close its really there =] ) and then under Double tap it reads "Pick up the phone in portrait orientation and double tap to wake " but if I really double tap mine while its laying flatly screen up with some force it wakes just make sure you really give it good tapping.
Other than that test to see if picking it first portrait orientation and give it a few taps and see if it wakes.
I just saw the post above mine that is a great answer/work around. I like that kind of thinking.

wtoj34 said:
Settings, display and gestures, g sensor calibration. Calibrate it poorly intentionally slanted against a book or whatnot. It thinks your device is tilted when it is laying down.
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I was going to reply with this exact method until I saw that you did so.
This works, and resolves the issue completely. now a light double tap even turns on the screen while it is laying flat.

It's a pretty simple concept. Unlike the LG G2, this phone came with some more smarts to save battery. The G2 device is ALWAYS active to receive phone taps, thus using more battery. The M8 device only once the phone is in motion it turns on the sensor to recieve any kind of double tap, thus saving battery! Pretty nice IMO and smart. Motion control window says itself you need to pick up device then double tap to activate.
For people who want to bypass this you can:
A. Tap the phone hard while on a desk thus causing the phone to move around waking up the motion sensor to activate double tap.
B. Give the G Sensor setting a bad setting so when device is laid flat on a surface the phone thinks it's not flat thus activating the double tap feature all the time thus using more battery.
So either love the feature for what it is or don't and us more battery.

The M8 double-tap to wake requires you to pick up the phone. The double-tap motion is not enough. If you double tap it while flat on a table it may work but usually it does not or very inconsistent.. Lift it and it will always work.

What's happening is when you move or pick up the phone the proximity sensor is activated, allowing the double-tap function to work, but after a few seconds of leaving it on the table, the sensor will shut off until it is disturbed again.

Orch4rd said:
What's happening is when you move or pick up the phone the proximity sensor is activated, allowing the double-tap function to work, but after a few seconds of leaving it on the table, the sensor will shut off until it is disturbed again.
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Not quite. Pick it up upside down and tap - nothing will happen. Double tap to wake works only right side up in portrait - which makes a lot of Sense.
You don't want anything to wake it when it's upside down in your pocket, right?

berndblb said:
Not quite. Pick it up upside down and tap - nothing will happen. Double tap to wake works only right side up in portrait - which makes a lot of Sense.
You don't want anything to wake it when it's upside down in your pocket, right?
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Interesting!
Actually I notice what's also keeping the double-tap function to work is the light senor, regardless the phone's position.
The sensor is located left of the front camera; try covering it up and see if you can double-tap to wake your phone

Orch4rd said:
Interesting!
Actually I notice what's also keeping the double-tap function to work is the light senor, regardless the phone's position.
The sensor is located left of the front camera; try covering it up and see if you can double-tap to wake your phone
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Just tried it: Yes I can

No.. You definitely can't. Either you're not covering the sensor or you're not using a Verizon m8.

Confirmed.. Cover sensor, DT2W doesn't work.

berndblb said:
Not quite. Pick it up upside down and tap - nothing will happen. Double tap to wake works only right side up in portrait - which makes a lot of Sense.
You don't want anything to wake it when it's upside down in your pocket, right?
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Hey how are things ?
No idea if supported on this device but wouldn't Swipe to Wake (Up) be better solution to Double Tap?
PS Need you over on Nexus 6P.

Born<ICs said:
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Hey how are things ?
No idea if supported on this device but wouldn't Swipe to Wake (Up) be better solution to Double Tap?
PS Need you over on Nexus 6P.
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Hey there. Long time no see. Wish i could afford the 6P... And i love the M8. Should be good for another year.

[Q] Double Tap E8 to wake the screen works intermittently

I've kept the E8's so called Motion Launch Gestures feature turned on.
The screen doesn't wake up 3 out of 10 times of tapping on it.
Is this a bug or am I missing something?
The way I do is, pick the phone up in portrait position and then tap on the screen.
This may be a very minor one, but it irritates when you assume that the phone would wake up on the tap and it doesn't, where you'll have to end up using the power button for the same.
Please let me know your experience or if you've got a few tips to get around it!

vinay.habib said:
I've kept the E8's so called Motion Launch Gestures feature turned on.
The screen doesn't wake up 3 out of 10 times of tapping on it.
Is this a bug or am I missing something?
The way I do is, pick the phone up in portrait position and then tap on the screen.
This may be a very minor one, but it irritates when you assume that the phone would wake up on the tap and it doesn't, where you'll have to end up using the power button for the same.
Please let me know your experience or if you've got a few tips to get around it!
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It did happen to me a few times in the beginning, but not anymore. The catch here is that the gyroscope phone has to detect a movement for the double tap to work. So, if it's lifted from a table or so with very minute change in the axis,the motion sensors won't work. Otherwise it would work just fine.
My usage of the dot view made it easier, because double tapping with the case open and folded back always produced a movement/vibration. Now even without the dot view, most of the times, I'm able to get it right. It's just about getting used to it I guess. Just lift your device from any table or so, and slightly tilt it towards yourself. That is enough to trigger the motion launch gestures.

Thanks! I'll give that a try!

Motion Launch

So I noticed that double tap on screen to make it light up isnt always working for me, sometimes i have to tap it for like 10 times before it works and sometimes it doesnt work at all.
Anyone else having this issue?
I have the settings turned on.
Settings --> screen --> motion launch --> first one is on.
Would like to hear your experiences with this.

same here.
i think that you need to raise your phone in portrait first (vertically) before you are able to wake it by double tapping

The phone needs to detect movement before double tap to wake to work as per the example in the motion launch settings.

Double tap to wake use proximity sensor and motion sensor. Do you have a screen protector (or anything else) that interfere with proximity sensor ?
No need to raise it vertically. If you move it frankly on a table, you can use double tap to wake.

Kidy973 said:
Double tap to wake use proximity sensor and motion sensor. Do you have a screen protector (or anything else) that interfere with proximity sensor ?
No need to raise it vertically. If you move it frankly on a table, you can use double tap to wake.
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Im not using a screen protector yet, also the case i'm using is the one that HTC provides.
The Phone is on my table, i tap on twice to unlock nothing.
I did notice that if you tap above the middle of the screen it'll work however if you use the lower end of the screen it wont work.

YorbenB said:
Im not using a screen protector yet, also the case i'm using is the one that HTC provides.
The Phone is on my table, i tap on twice to unlock nothing.
I did notice that if you tap above the middle of the screen it'll work however if you use the lower end of the screen it wont work.
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The phone needs some kind of motion. Chances are you're pressing the top half of the phone which is heavier, and the bottom half is moving enough for the phone to warrant the double top.
If the phone is perfectly still, no matter where you touch it, double tap won't work.