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2.3.4 rooting/recovery Q

Quick question about rooting and clockwork. I managed to gain root on 2.3.3 without using clockwork a while back (i find it buggy sometimes) but the current re-rooting guide for 2.3.4 assumes clockwork usage. Does it matter if I use the procedure in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1007782 but bypass clockwork? I.e. using vanilla recovery.

Actually you don't need clockworkmod -- or even recovery mode -- for rooting. The process of rooting is simply putting the su binary into /system/bin directory and install Superuser app.
You could try to install zip from stock recovery, I'm pretty sure it won't hurt even the installation is not successful. For me, I always do the rooting by:
Code:
adb remount
adb push su /system/bin/
adb shell chmod 6755 /system/bin/su
Then install the Superuser app from Market.

suksit said:
Actually you don't need clockworkmod -- or even recovery mode -- for rooting. The process of rooting is simply putting the su binary into /system/bin directory and install Superuser app.
You could try to install zip from stock recovery, I'm pretty sure it won't hurt even the installation is not successful. For me, I always do the rooting by:
Code:
adb remount
adb push su /system/bin/
adb shell chmod 6755 /system/bin/su
Then install the Superuser app from Market.
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Does the bootloader need to be unlocked w/this method?

suksit said:
Actually you don't need clockworkmod -- or even recovery mode -- for rooting. The process of rooting is simply putting the su binary into /system/bin directory and install Superuser app.
You could try to install zip from stock recovery, I'm pretty sure it won't hurt even the installation is not successful. For me, I always do the rooting by:
Code:
adb remount
adb push su /system/bin/
adb shell chmod 6755 /system/bin/su
Then install the Superuser app from Market.
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Thanks for that. But for the n00b part of me, could you tell me which directory I need to launch that command from? I.e. which directory of the android sdk.
From memory it was something like c:\program files (x86)\android\android-sdk\tools... or something.
EDIT: mm, I just tried initating those commands from within both the \\tools and \\platform-tools and in both instances I either get "unrecognised command" or "error: device not found" or "remount failed: operation not permitted"; depending on whether the device is fully booted or just in recovery. Any ideas?

Help: Good For Eterprise on a previously rooted phone

Trying to install GFE on a previously rooted but now unrooted phone. It's failing because it thinks I'm still rooted.
I have unrooted, removed Superuser (the apk and from the App list), etc.
What the hell is it finding?

Maybe su or busybox in the xbin folder?

wewoapsiak said:
Maybe su or busybox in the xbin folder?
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Yes. They are both there. But how do I get rid of them now that I'm not rooted? ADB shell errors out with read only file system. If I re-root and delete them, then how do I make the file system read only again?
Also, do I need to get rid of /system/bin/su or is that part of stock Android?
Thanks so much for any help.

So all you did was delete the .apk? Download Super 1-click, re-root, then use it to unroot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682

wewoapsiak said:
So all you did was delete the .apk? Download Super 1-click, re-root, then use it to unroot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
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I rooted by flashing the update.zip and then unrooted by removing the Superuser app and then changing the file system to read only.
I thought SuperOneClick only worked with FroYo on the G2X and not with Gingerbread.

Success!!!!!!!! Many thanks to jboxer and others that pointed me in the right direction.
Here's what you need to do for anyone else facing this issue:
1. Boot into Clockwordmod Recovery and then connect your phone to the computer. CWM Recovery will be seen on ADB with root permissions.
2. Before issuing the following commands, after your phone is connected, use the menu in CWM Recovery to mount the system. If you don't mount the system you are seeing CWM's mini Android system and not the phone's.
3. Issue the following commands from your computer:
#adb uninstall com.noshufou.android.su
#adb shell rm /system/app/Superuser.apk
#adb shell rm /system/bin/su
#adb shell rm /system/xbin/su
#adb shell rm /data/local/tmp/psneuter
#adb shell "find /system/xbin -type l | xargs rm"
#adb shell rm /system/xbin/busybox
4. Use the CWM Recovery menu to unmount system.
5. Reboot your phone.
Before you attempt to re-run the Good setup, check one last time to make sure that su is gone from /system/bin and /system/xbin and that Superuser does not show up either in your Apps or when you go to Settings->Manage Apps. If any of this is still present you need to redo what is written above as the Good setup will fail.
I also recommend doing a Nandroid before unrooting, a second Nandroid after unrooting but before installing Good, and then a third Nandroid immediately after successfully installing Good.

[Q] Mysterious Superuser/root problem

Ok, so this is the problem:
I have a TF101, rooted since 3.2. I have been able to do OTA updates without problems so far, keeping my root with OTA Rootkeeper.
Last week, I tried figuring out how to automatically mount cifs-shares through Tasker. Whatever I tried, the share would not mount through Tasker. It mounted without problems through command line in Terminal Emulator.
Eventually, i narrowed it down to a root acces problem in Tasker, or the Locale Execute plugin, or the secure settings plugin. I noticed that neither of those had ever asked for SU-acces and there were no logs of it in the Superuser app. When downloading other root-needing apps (e.g. rootchecker), I had the same problem: whenever a new app would normally ask for root acces, instead of the usual Superuser-prompt, the app stalled for a few seconds and then gave an error message or just plain nothing. There was no log of this in the superuser app.
When setting the superuser app to 'always grant root', the situation stayed the same: new apps didn't get root, older apps still had root without problems.
While searching for similar occurences on the internet, I saw a suggestion somewhere to clear the cache and data for the superuser app, so I did.
Now superuser still doesn't prompt and NONE of my apps have root. Apparently even the superuser app itself has no root acces anymore, since it fails to get root acces when updating the su-binary.
My guess was that completely removing su and the superuser app and subsequently re-rooting the whole thing would fix this.
I tried unrooting/rerooting through various methods (Brk, Vipermod, this one, and the new Wolf's thingy), but to no avail.
Brk tells me eveything worked fine, but changes nothing, except it gave me an even older version of the su-binary.
Vipermod hangs on "daemon started succesfully" but apparently does nothing even after 10 minutes.
The Asus Backup Utility method changed absolutely nothing
The Wolf's method looked promising, but installing the "Superuser-3.0.7-efghi-signed.zip" failed. (maybe because I did this from CWM recovery instead of his recoveryblob recovery? Dunno.)
So far I can't seem to remove root, as OTA Rootkeeper assures me the superuser app is installed and the device is rooted, even if the root acces is not granted to it (or any other app).
Any ideas?
Update: tried installing SuperSU from CWM recovery to replace Superuser app, but it gave the same 'installation aborted' message. Is this because CWM has no root acces also?
update2: I have root acces through adb shell apparently. I looked here and here for a way to replace the superuser app. I managed to remount /system, delete Superuser.apk and push the Superuser.apk and su from "Superuser-3.0.7-efghi-signed.zip" onto the device.
No apparent change, not even in the su binary version number reported by Superuser app.
I downloaded the standalone su-binary from here too, and replaced /system/bin/su with that one, too, but after reboot the Superuser app still indicated su binary version 2.3.2-efgh.
I don't know exactly when this problem started, but it could have been caused by the recent update from 9.2.1.17 to 9.2.1.21? Is it possible to revert to the previous version? If so, how? Would I lose data/apps?

Type the following in terminal:
ls -l /system/*/su
My guess is that you have two binaries and one or both of them is not superuser with permission rwsr.xr.x

Ensuring CWM working properly, you just try do backup using CWM then, if it worked then it's has nothing to do with being root access problem. And flashing wolf's root zip via CWM is all it takes to regain root after the 9.2.1.21 update.
Mine was similar root access messed after flashing the 9.2.1.21 update. Tried rectified this by copying su from system/bin to system/xbin but still nothing, but my CWM work though and use it to flash wolf's root zip to correct the su missing in the system. Now it work great..
Sent from my awesome rooted Defy: 2.3.6

@gee one
ls -l /system/*/su gives me this:
-rw-rw-rw- root root 22364 2008-02-29 02:33 su
-rwsr-sr-x root shell 26324 2008-02-29 03:33 su
So you're on to sth. Top one is located in /system/bin, lower one is in /system/xbin.
Now what do I do with this? Copy one over the other? chmod? chown?
@farsight73
As said in the OP, I tried flashing wolf's root zip in CWM, but got an error and it aborted. I did the following:
put zip on removable sd
reboot to CWM
choose update from zip
select the right zip
confirm
I also tried this with /system mounted, but same result.
I don't have acces to pc now, I will try more tonight.a

[SOLVED]
Thanks for the replies, you got me in the right direction in that I was replacing the wrong su in the wrong way.
Since Brk Toolkit managed to get me an older su, I thought it could as well give me the right one second time.
I replaced the su and superuser.apk in the /adb folder of the Brk rootkit with the one from wolf's root zip, and then used Brk Toolkit to install su and superuser.
Upon reboot, the problem was solved.
Thanks a bunch!

For future reference, I think you could just elevate to the superuser by typing in terminal "/system/xbin/su" Then you could fix system/bin/su with "chmod 06775/system/bin/su"
Then " exit" should drop you to a normal shell, and "su" will promote you in the usual way.
The issue here is that xbin and bin are both in your path, and bin is probably first, so the non-super version is "found" first. "echo $PATH" will reveal your path variable.
sent from my transformer

gee one said:
For future reference, I think you could just elevate to the superuser by typing in terminal "/system/xbin/su" Then you could fix system/bin/su with "chmod 06775/system/bin/su"
Then " exit" should drop you to a normal shell, and "su" will promote you in the usual way.
The issue here is that xbin and bin are both in your path, and bin is probably first, so the non-super version is "found" first. "echo $PATH" will reveal your path variable.
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HEY MY FRIED I HAVE EXACTLY THE SAME PROBLEM
chmod 06775 /system/bin/su results"unable to chmod /system/bin/su: readonly filesystem "
echo $PATH RESULTS /system/bin/su: /system/Xbin/su
COULD U HELP ME WITH ZIS MY FRIEND
10Q

From adb or the terminal, type in "/system/xbin/su" to elevate to the superuser. Then mount system to read-write and delete the /system/bin/su version. Remount system as read only.
This will work if you have two versions of su and one of them is not really super.
sent while running with scissors

[Resolved] [Q] Help needed rooting G Pro! T_T

*Since this problem can happen to other LG devices, I'm writing here.
-Summarized Question for Busy XDAers-
1.Installed su binary and busybox through Android System Recovery 3e.
2.Can get root access from LG Recovery mode, half access on ordinary boot+adb shell, Permission denied on terminal emulator app. SuperSu not working, and 'root' is granting permission every 5 minutes.
3.HELP PLEASE!
-Full Question-
Maybe it can be a real noobish question, but I need help rooting my G Pro.
LG started Kitkat update a week ago, and G Pro also got Kitkat update.
I tried to root my device using old methods, and new methods for other G devices, but none of them worked.
So! I tried making one for me, using Android System Recovery 3e(maybe it could be a problem?)
I booted my device to recovery using
Code:
'adb reboot recovery'
and sideloaded zip file containing su binary and busybox.
Of course I signed it with testkey, so I could get SuperSu, su binary, and busybox installed on my system.
But, after rebooting my device, I felt something went wrong.
I typed
Code:
'su'
command on terminal enulator, and got
Code:
'Permission Denied'
error.
Assuming it's related to permission and owner of su binary, I tried
Code:
ls -al /system/bin/su
.
Here's the result:
Code:
[email protected]:/ $ su
Permission denied
1|[email protected]:/ $ ls -al /system/bin/su
-rwsr-sr-x root root 85096 2008-08-01 21:00 su
It seems...nothing's wrong!
So I tried with adb, and got # without asking Superuser app.
But I couldn't mount system, as well as other commands require root access.
I removed SuperSu and downloaded Superuser by ChainsDD, but that didn't work.
Instead, I could see on log that 'root' was granting permission every 5 minutes.
Not knowing what the problem is, I rebooted device to LG recovery(diffrent from Android Recovery 3e).
I could access adb from there, and got root access and removed some garbage apps.
Then, it means su binary and busybox is working.
What is the problem??? Please help!
EDIT:It was binary version problem lol

[Working]Root Kindle Fire HD8 6th Gen

Ladies and Gentleman,
I was able to root the HD8 6th Gen using Kingoroot while in airplane mode. I download the executable and ran it directly from my computer. My Fire tablet is on version 5.3.1.1 and was never registered with Amazon. I can run su in adb but the SuperUser app is not working on my tablet. I am looking into replacing the KingoRoot SuperUser app with SuperSU. I suggest you block updates as soon as you achieve root.

look at this thread to see if you can remove Kingroot and replace
https://forum.xda-developers.com/am...rtool-root-t3272695/post69855730#post69855730
This applied to 7" but may be same issue you are having. Note I would suspect you at least need to install the app since you used the PC version but then that might allow replacement fully. The Rootjunky script basically installs supersu and removes the kingroot app following this approach: https://www.droidmen.com/remove-kingroot-kinguser-with-supersu/
So now the questions are:
* Does the app work too or just PC version
* Does a device which has been used and registered with Amazon work? I am on 5.3.1.1, have OTA disabled, have Novalauncher sort of working, and managed to get Amazon to disable the ads lock screen but right now the device does not leave home due to Opendns constraints as I did not want to lose 5.3.1.1 while waiting.

Decided to try this on 5.3.2.1, ran Kingroot for PC few times (version 3.4.0 build 1142). Did not work. Hope it works for you 5.3.1.1 guys.

I believe 5.3.2 can be downgraded to 5.3.1.1 but I also believe 5.3.2.1 is confirmed to not be downgradable.
I was lucky and got my BF unit with 5.3.1.1 and blocked OTA right away

I register to reply this thread and tell everyone that 5.3.1.1 CAN BE ROOT using KingoRoot(not KingRoot)
blocked OTA and planning to place Kingoroot with Supersu now.
go kingoapp.c0m(replace 0 with o) and download the PC one.
Tried APK one but seems stuck at 90% or not enough patient?
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chemie99 said:
look at this thread to see if you can remove Kingroot and replace
https://forum.xda-developers.com/am...rtool-root-t3272695/post69855730#post69855730
This applied to 7" but may be same issue you are having. Note I would suspect you at least need to install the app since you used the PC version but then that might allow replacement fully. The Rootjunky script basically installs supersu and removes the kingroot app following this approach: https://www.droidmen.com/remove-kingroot-kinguser-with-supersu/
So now the questions are:
* Does the app work too or just PC version
* Does a device which has been used and registered with Amazon work? I am on 5.3.1.1, have OTA disabled, have Novalauncher sort of working, and managed to get Amazon to disable the ads lock screen but right now the device does not leave home due to Opendns constraints as I did not want to lose 5.3.1.1 while waiting.
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my device is registered with amazon and it works
Detailed instruction on post#38

so what is difference between
kingoroot
and kingroot
??
I am familiar with Kingroot but kingoroot seems to be another animal? Is kingo safe? We have a total of 3 lifetime posts from two accounts who are speaking its benefits....

chemie99 said:
so what is difference between
kingoroot
and kingroot
??
I am familiar with Kingroot but kingoroot seems to be another animal? Is kingo safe? We have a total of 3 lifetime posts from two accounts who are speaking its benefits....
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honestly I dunno, I'm new to android, just bought the kindle to start playing with android...
but I found it difficult to replace the kingoroot with supersu, when I type su in terminal, it show nothing, can't give root permission to terminal emulator.

I replaced kingoroot with supersu following instruction from androidforums.com/threads/script-replace-kingoroot-with-supersu.919175/
After it's done, supersu doesn't prompt for root access. So I set 'default access' to 'grant' in supersu settings, and it seems to be working.

g4ry12 said:
Decided to try this on 5.3.2.1, ran Kingroot for PC few times.
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I was not paying attention, it's KingoRoot, not KingRoot. Downloaded KingoRoot for PC (v1.4.9), and tried on 5.3.2.1. Rooting failed, unfortunately.

I ran the PC kingo and rooted.
I then tried to remove and replace with supersu and it failed
I lost root
I tried to rerun Kingo PC but it wanted debugging enabled even though it was
tried the apk kingo (from kingoapp.com; playstore it is a adware hack)
got stuck at 90%
exited and kindle was really sluggish; maybe something to do with my novalauncher or something?
power off reboot and stuck in boot up (Fire image). Now can't boot.
Message is be careful with kingo when removing....will try restore now.
Edit: wiping data and cache did not help. Did brick recovery to 5.3.1.1 (which is what it was on when I got it), and managed to recover. Glad I don't have to send this one back to Amazon!
I will now restart kingo root effort and if it works will report back steps (including supersu replacement).

So I have root according to kingo but "root checker basic" says I do not have root.
Try to open "superuser" (which is a kingo superuser app) and it is just a blank screen then back to Home.
The removal tool that @2ig2ag linked did not work.
It failed on "mount -w -o remount /system" with "mount: operation not permitted"
I also tried to manual cp the su file over and get error "read only file system"
Edit: Despite kingo saying you have root, you don't. At least not complete root. I am unable to copy anything into system/app via ES File explorer too. I am unable to grant programs that want access, that access. For example, Titanium BackUp is unable to detect "Su and Busybox" so no go.
I am able to pm disable the firelauncher for example but that is about it

chemie99 said:
So I have root according to kingo but "root checker basic" says I do not have root.
Try to open "superuser" (which is a kingo superuser app) and it is just a blank screen then back to Home.
The removal tool that @2ig2ag linked did not work.
It failed on "mount -w -o remount /system" with "mount: operation not permitted"
I also tried to manual cp the su file over and get error "read only file system"
Edit: Despite kingo saying you have root, you don't. At least not complete root. I am unable to copy anything into system/app via ES File explorer too. I am unable to grant programs that want access, that access. I am able to pm disable the firelauncher for example but that is about it
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I soft-bricked once, stuck at fire logo, sideload adb and resumed normal.
I didn't use the root checker to check, the superuser included will crash when I launch it,
but I can su in adb shell..
@2ig2ag's way not work for me either,
I cannot run the script, it said permission denied, then I try to run it manually,
I can remount /system, it do not show any error, but I am stopped at "cp ./su /system/xbin/daemonsu",
it said "daemonsu" text file in use.

tried ultra explorer as another way to get to /system and it just locks up when trying to detect root.
Tried manually installing supersu.apk and it locks up and requires reboot to get back to working device.
@phpbb88 I retried "mount -w -o remount /system" and it worked; maybe I wasn't in su at the time. I get the same error on file copy
So to summarize:
you can: adb su
you can: pm disable fire launcher and OTA (not sure if unrooted allows this too?)
you can not:
write to /system
install any apk that require root and grant root access
switch to supersu
adb remount (fails)
I would not call this a successful root. I am not even sure of the pm disables will last more than 24 hours.

chemie99 said:
tried ultra explorer as another way to get to /system and it just locks up when trying to detect root.
Tried manually installing supersu.apk and it locks up and requires reboot to get back to working device.
@phpbb88 I retried "mount -w -o remount /system" and it worked; maybe I wasn't in su at the time. I get the same error on file copy
So to summarize:
you can: adb su
you can: pm disable fire launcher and OTA (not sure if unrooted allows this too?)
you can not:
write to /system
install any apk that require root and grant root access
switch to supersu
adb remount (fails)
I would not call this a successful root. I am not even sure of the pm disables will last more than 24 hours.
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I am using a file explorer called "ES File explorer", it cannot view the system file when it is not root.
After Kingoroot, I can view them, but I still cannot create file in /system by using that File explorer.
However I can successfully create a dir in /system in adb shell, shown below.
[email protected]:/system # mkdir 123
[email protected]:/system # ls
123
app
bin
build.prop
data
etc
fonts
framework
lib
lib64
lost+found
media
priv-app
recovery-from-boot.p
sbin
security
sqfs
tts
usr
vendor
xbin
[email protected]:/system #

I have made progress...with kingo install I did this:
copy the files of the kingo root removal to sdcard/kingo
adb shell
su
mount -w -o remount /system
cd /sdcard/kingo
cp ./su /system/xbin/daemonsu
fails because it is locked. Then I started to think that the steps were for the kingo app and not the PC so
with adb window still open, run PC program and remove root
then
cp ./su /system/xbin/daemonsu
chmod 0755 /system/xbin/daemonsu
daemonsu -d &
./step1.sh
got some errors
then sideload the supersu apk via ES file explorer
then allow supersu to do it thing and reboot.
Now I have supersu running!''
edit:
but do I have root?
Titanium backup still fails but ultra explorer does say it has root
now adb shell su fails.....

chemie99 said:
I have made progress...with kingo install I did this:
copy the files of the kingo root removal to sdcard/kingo
adb shell
su
mount -w -o remount /system
cd /sdcard/kingo
cp ./su /system/xbin/daemonsu
fails because it is locked. Then I started to think that the steps were for the kingo app and not the PC so
with adb window still open, run PC program and remove root
then
cp ./su /system/xbin/daemonsu
chmod 0755 /system/xbin/daemonsu
daemonsu -d &
./step1.sh
got some errors
then sideload the supersu apk via ES file explorer
then allow supersu to do it thing and reboot.
Now I have root with supersu!
Titanium backup still fails but ultra explorer does say it has root
Edit: hmmm..
now adb shell su fails.....
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I cannot run the step1.sh, still show permission denied.
I tried manually, but got another permission error...
[email protected]:/sdcard/Kingo # cp ./su /system/xbin/daemonsu
[email protected]:/sdcard/Kingo # chmod 0755 /system/xbin/daemonsu
[email protected]:/sdcard/Kingo # daemonsu -d &
[1] 8434
[email protected]:/sdcard/Kingo # ./step1.sh
sh: ./step1.sh: can't execute: Permission denied
[1] + Done daemonsu -d
126|[email protected]:/sdcard/Kingo # cp ./su /system/xbin/su
[email protected]:/sdcard/Kingo # chmod 0755 /system/xbin/su
[email protected]:/sdcard/Kingo # ./chattr.pie -ia /system/xbin/ku.sud
sh: ./chattr.pie: can't execute: Permission denied
126|[email protected]:/sdcard/Kingo # ./chattr.pie -ia /system/xbin/supolicy
sh: ./chattr.pie: can't execute: Permission denied
126|[email protected]:/sdcard/Kingo #

after the errors, did you install supersu.apk?
I ignored the errors thinking they were from differences between kingo apk and kingo PC versions of what they put on device.
Supersu does manage to install itself but root checker still says I do not have root.

chemie99 said:
after the errors, did you install supersu.apk?
I ignored the errors thinking they were from differences between kingo apk and kingo PC versions of what they put on device
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I didn't finish all the steps in step1.sh, cause I have installed SuperSU at the beginning of time,
I then try to run Supersu and it said blahblahblah error, need to reboot my device.
wola, i lost my connection to root adb shell, and now going to root it again

phpbb88 said:
I didn't finish all the steps in step1.sh, cause I have installed SuperSU at the beginning of time,
I then try to run Supersu and it said blahblahblah error, need to reboot my device.
wola, i lost my connection to root adb shell, and now going to root it again
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I only install supersu as the step after running step1; it worked, and took hold (at least no errors and opening the program looks normal). The issue is that it won't grant access to anything (TB, flashfire, etc)

chemie99 said:
I only install supersu as the step after running step1; it worked, and took hold (at least no errors and opening the program looks normal). The issue is that it won't grant access to anything (TB, flashfire, etc)
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Kingoroot PC asked me to grant root access to it by pressing OK on my device's pop up when my device is under root,
but my device wouldn't show anything.
Is there any problem on fire OS that wouldn't show this pop up?