Hi to all,
I don't see any thread regards the possibility for a 3G phone into a 4G.
Maybe its a silly thought, can it be possible?
does to days phone have the same chip or chipset for a 4G, may be its disabled?, or need to have a 4G simcard?, or is it if you want a 4G phone, you need to buy new phone all together.
Wait to hear your thoughts.
barascus said:
Hi to all,
I don't see any thread regards the possibility for a 3G phone into a 4G.
Maybe its a silly thought, can it be possible?
does to days phone have the same chip or chipset for a 4G, may be its disabled?, or need to have a 4G simcard?, or is it if you want a 4G phone, you need to buy new phone all together.
Wait to hear your thoughts.
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as far as i know 4g is available in USA and in UK, so we are talking about LTE, our ordinary Seny doesent have LTE mobo installed. And ordinary Seny have same mobo as 4G - LTE module
Thanks for the reply dublinz.
So LTE and 4G are both different systems? does this mean for a 3G network phone to be close as a 4G it becomes an LTE?
Ok let me rephrase my question from my first post. Let say there is a
HTC sensation 4G and a HTC sensation XE with beats audio(which is dead at the moment). As you know other HTC devices didn't have the capability to have Beats Audio, know nearly all HTC's phones have that function thanks to the Dev teams.
Now, for the 4G or LTE, can it be emulated in a 3G phone so it can use the 4G networks. Let say some Dev team see what chip or software in a HTC Sensation 4G which is present, and it can be emulated in one way or another, or make some kind of a virtual software to have the 4G in a HTC sensation Xe for example.
Wait to here you're comments.
barascus said:
Thanks for the reply dublinz.
So LTE and 4G are both different systems? does this mean for a 3G network phone to be close as a 4G it becomes an LTE?
Ok let me rephrase my question from my first post. Let say there is a
HTC sensation 4G and a HTC sensation XE with beats audio(which is dead at the moment). As you know other HTC devices didn't have the capability to have Beats Audio, know nearly all HTC's phones have that function thanks to the Dev teams.
Now, for the 4G or LTE, can it be emulated in a 3G phone so it can use the 4G networks. Let say some Dev team see what chip or software in a HTC Sensation 4G which is present, and it can be emulated in one way or another, or make some kind of a virtual software to have the 4G in a HTC sensation Xe for example.
Wait to here you're comments.
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Your logic will be plausible if Sensation 4g doesent have extra module (hardware part) on its mobo. So Dev cant create virtual LTE board (my opinion), otherwise trust me HTC will implement it (you know fight for the buck ) You probably heard that Sensation 4G wont have ICS upgrade until June, it is down to LTE driver that create problems….
If you're talking about the 4g that T-Mobile claims (hspa+) then the xe has it as does the international sensation as does the T-Mobile sensation.
As for 4g-lte or 4g-wimax (sprint), no sensation has a possibility of even emulating this. It's just not built into the SoC.
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Ok, thanks for the reply guys. Thats all I needed to know.
Oh well in this case I keep on dreaming
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Hi Guys
A guy offered to exchange my SGS II for his sensation and i was thinking of going for it
Are there any problems with the US version of sensation ?
In my region, the mobile service is still GSM not 4G, do US versions of sensation support GSM or are they only 4G
Is the death grip problem serious or is it just someone trying to bash the sensation ?
Thanks
RADLOUNI said:
Hi Guys
A guy offered to exchange my SGS II for his sensation and i was thinking of going for it
Are there any problems with the US version of sensation ?
In my region, the mobile service is still GSM not 4G, do US versions of sensation support GSM or are they only 4G
Is the death grip problem serious or is it just someone trying to bash the sensation ?
Thanks
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We've only had it a day but I haven't seen any complaints so far. My Sensation is amazing. Still to early to know if we have problems or not.
I've seen 4g, 3g, and Edge listed on mine. Luckily I mostly see 4g.
Hello every one, I am thinking of getting a Sensation so decided to ask you about 2 issues ;
1) I keep seeing S-Off and for the hell of me I know not what this is.
2) While attempting a purchase on Amazon for phone and accessories, I always see Sensation and Sensation 4g. I can guess that the 4G has the 4g network capabilities which I will not need (in Egypt we do not have it yet) but for accessories will it really matter or is it the same when it comes to accessories and only the protocol differs.
Thanks a lot for the replies.
Accessories are the same.
S-off is r/w access to the nand on which system recovery and boot are stored.
Thanks. So no I can purchase accessories without needing to worry. As for the S-Off I still do not comprehend. What is it again?? Is it the ability to read and write to the nand from the recovery partition. did I understand correctly.
There is no difference between Sensation and Sensation 4G other than branding. Both have the same HSPA+ speeds, T-mobile is just branding it as "4G". Sensation 4G is for USA, and Sensation is for the other parts of the world (S4G is locked)
Swyped from my HTC Sensation
Pretty much. If s-off means nothing to you in terms of rooting your phone enjoy your purchase.
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S-off means you can put modified software (ROMs) on your device and generally make it better. You have two methods to get S-OFF: xda way (revolutionary.io) or official HTC way. The xda way is better
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in layman's terms, it's "rooting"your phone (ability to replace any and all files on your phone). Being able to do that will allow you the ability to change any visual aspect you can think possible on your phone, just about any kind of performance, over clocking your cpu, undervolting your phone, enabling faster charging times, extreme power saving abilities, even the ability top change the entire operating system to something completely different... Along with loads more you can do that were never possible "stock". Removing these chains can come at a risk if you don't know what you're doing so make sure you research before unlocking your phones full potential.
Thanks every one for your explanation. Highly appreciated. I will get it for sure then. Cya soon on sensation sub forums.
Get the sensation without the t-mobile branding on it. You can flash tmobile rom if you like after s-off and it would be the same as the tmobile version sensation 4G, unless you like the tmobile branding stamped on your phone
don't forget the different bands!
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don't forget the different bands!
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Hi skygear,
You and the user idavid actually posted contradicting claims You say the UMTS bands are _different_, idavid says they are the _same_ (several posts above yours). Can anyone actually verify what is actually the case?
Here's my phone - it's a T-Mobile Sensation 4G, and the website I bought it from originally claimed the UMTS bands were 900, 1700, 2100. When I got the box from them, the bands stated on the box were 1700, 2100, 1900 (in that order). I checked the website (newayci.com) again today and they corrected the specs to match those on the box, but in the carrier chart they claim my Sensation 4G won't work on Bell at all and only as 2G on Rogers - which does not make sense as Bell and Rogers use the same UMTS 1900 band.
So you see there's quite a lot of confusion, and it would be great if we could collectively clarify that. Is there any way to check it (except for getting a Rogers or Bell SIM with a 3G plan and putting that one in?)?
I am using the phone on Wind Mobile in Toronto, and it works fine, but I wasn't able to figure out so far if it will work as 3G on Rogers or Bell, who use UMTS 1900 band.
I posted the same question in another thread too, I'll report what I get from there (if anything).
Thanks in advance for help.
Im fairly new to the phone game but i know a little bit. I traded my inspire to a Sensation, unlocked it myself. Everything worked finr except my Data i couldnt use the internet in any way. I called 611 (atts customer serv) and they said the connection was rejected. Luckily i was able to convince the guy i got it from to trade me back and give me the extra money i gave him for the trade. Was i just being a dumbass not knowing what to do or is this an issue. On the phone i went into the carrier and APN and it all seemed fine... Just curious because i would still like that phone but of course want my data connection Thanks
Also someone told me that unlocking/flashing phones will drop them down 2 data speeds (4G-2G/EDGE) Is this true?
Smolt321 said:
Also someone told me that unlocking/flashing phones will drop them down 2 data speeds (4G-2G/EDGE) Is this true?
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Stop listening to ignorant people.
As for the problem you encountered, I believe you got the wrong Sensation. You need the Z710a for AT&T.
lianw is correct. Many of us are happily using the z710a on at&t.
Same guy as Smolt here for some reason it wouldnt let me log back in and after an hour of screwing with it and password retievals..... Well here i am... How do you tell the difference between the 2 Sensations? Did you have to call611 and give them the imei # to use data?
Ive got a post under my newly given moniker, if you find the time check it out. Any help is greatly appreciated and always thanked
So you traded the Sensation back to your original phone, so you no longer have a Sensation, and you still want to know why you were having problems?
People don't waste your time trying to figure out his issue, he doesn't have the phone anymore to try and fix it.
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So you traded the Sensation back to your original phone, so you no longer have a Sensation, and you still want to know why you were having problems?
People don't waste your time trying to figure out his issue, he doesn't have the phone anymore to try and fix it.
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I wanted to know if theres a way to fix it because if there is which according to these guys there is. Id like to get another... And why are we so worried about what other people are doing?
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... And why are we so worried about what other people are doing?
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Because not only are people wasting their time on answering your question, but you are also cluttering the forum...who knows, you may never get a sensation again or have the issue if you get the correct sensation and this thread them becomes trash.
unless the sensation supports the at&t 4g or 3g bands, you're limited to edge. that's what happened to me when i was using the inspire on t-mobile.
I think only bell or Virgin(from Canada) Sensation have 850 frequency, it is working fine on Rogers with 3g or HSPA after unlock(which i think it should work on at&t as they are using the same band). I hope this could help u a bit. T-mobile sensation doesn't work on at&t because it doesn't support 850.
I'm using the bell sensation z710a and get ATT 3g speeds with no issues.
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So I have a Tmobile 4G Sensation and I currently have it unlocked with an AT&T Sim card in it. Any way I can hit up to 3G or 4G? Right now I am only getting up to 2G maximum and it is killing me. I can not text or figure out a way to text using wifi and man is it a pain in the ass where I live. Anybody have a solution or a fix? Thank you in advance. Or just thank you for taking your time to read this thread.
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So I have a Tmobile 4G Sensation and I currently have it unlocked with an AT&T Sim card in it. Any way I can hit up to 3G or 4G? Right now I am only getting up to 2G maximum and it is killing me. I can not text or figure out a way to text using wifi and man is it a pain in the ass where I live. Anybody have a solution or a fix? Thank you in advance. Or just thank you for taking your time to read this thread.
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It's not possible to get 3G or higher speed I believe. It's baseband issue. And what do you mean by "text using wifi"? I believe 2G is enough for SMS messages
Yeah, I'm using my tmo sensation on (att) straight talk, and I only get edge. The sensation doesn't have the 850/1900 bands for att
The T-Mobile Sensation is the Z710e model and will not work on AT&T's 3G bands.
To work on AT&T's 3G, you need the Z710a model.
As other have already said, you will only get a Edge(2G) connection using it on AT&T. Also you can not use WiFi Calling on AT&T because that is a service provided by T-Mobile.
Sounds like you should switch back to T-Mobile if possible because edge speeds on sensation are awfully and painfully slow.! If I were you I would switch back so I could get the WiFi calling and 4g speeds back . Personally it would Drive me crazy having to only have edge. I think if you want to enjoy your sensation Again you need to switch back to T-Mobile. I do know by speaking with T-Mobile , that sometimes they share towers with AT&T. So sometimes my device will pick up a AT&T tower. This is what T-Mobile told me. I don't know how accurate that statement is but this is what a service tech told me. Anyway , it might be the best for you just to switch back to T-Mobile. This way you don't have to live with edge all the time! I wish you the best. Good luck.
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realsis said:
Sounds like you should switch back to T-Mobile if possible because edge speeds on sensation are awfully and painfully slow.! If I were you I would switch back so I could get the WiFi calling and 4g speeds back . Personally it would Drive me crazy having to only have edge. I think if you want to enjoy your sensation Again you need to switch back to T-Mobile. I do know by speaking with T-Mobile , that sometimes they share towers with AT&T. So sometimes my device will pick up a AT&T tower. This is what T-Mobile told me. I don't know how accurate that statement is but this is what a service tech told me. Anyway , it might be the best for you just to switch back to T-Mobile. This way you don't have to live with edge all the time! I wish you the best. Good luck.
sent from HTC sensation, soff, 3.33 firmware, viper Rom, sense 4.1, kernel version PYD-X stable 3.1, mugen battery 3800mah. Please press thanks if I helped in anyway.
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I'll just deal without internet until March when I can upgrade to the new Nexus phone coming out or the "latest" phone by then. Thanks guys! :silly:
LoneFlac said:
So I have a Tmobile 4G Sensation and I currently have it unlocked with an AT&T Sim card in it. Any way I can hit up to 3G or 4G? Right now I am only getting up to 2G maximum and it is killing me. I can not text or figure out a way to text using wifi and man is it a pain in the ass where I live. Anybody have a solution or a fix? Thank you in advance. Or just thank you for taking your time to read this thread.
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Did you update your APN so you can text?
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Oh yeah I can text and call and even browse the webs on 2G its just slow. I never use internet anyways I was just wondering for the occasional facebook and or browse thanks guys.
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y htc changed there phone just for tmobile new post says we can change models i know we haven't found it yet but has to be a unlock somewhere
As most of our countries are progressing in connection speeds - and for instance in Sweden, where I am - most New phones come with Free 4G instead of the former 3G.
As we know Sensation works w 4G in the US T-Mobile Network - but Is There the possibility to somehow use 4G in Europe and anywhere else w our Sensation? As far as I figure - it's only a question of radio + possibly kernel? Am I right or are there other issues w that idea? - if I'm right - then can we not patch /port stuff like this from newer devices somehow? - don't flog Me if this has been discussed previously - i tried searching but came up with nothing! Thanks for any info available on this - and happy holidays folks!
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio Z715e using xda premium
fireplayer said:
As most of our countries are progressing in connection speeds - and for instance in Sweden, where I am - most New phones come with Free 4G instead of the former 3G.
As we know Sensation works w 4G in the US T-Mobile Network - but Is There the possibility to somehow use 4G in Europe and anywhere else w our Sensation? As far as I figure - it's only a question of radio + possibly kernel? Am I right or are there other issues w that idea? - if I'm right - then can we not patch /port stuff like this from newer devices somehow? - don't flog Me if this has been discussed previously - i tried searching but came up with nothing! Thanks for any info available on this - and happy holidays folks!
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio Z715e using xda premium
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As far as I know our Sensations are capable of using 4G in every part of the world, of course if your network provides it. You don't have to change anything
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fireplayer said:
As most of our countries are progressing in connection speeds - and for instance in Sweden, where I am - most New phones come with Free 4G instead of the former 3G.
As we know Sensation works w 4G in the US T-Mobile Network - but Is There the possibility to somehow use 4G in Europe and anywhere else w our Sensation? As far as I figure - it's only a question of radio + possibly kernel? Am I right or are there other issues w that idea? - if I'm right - then can we not patch /port stuff like this from newer devices somehow? - don't flog Me if this has been discussed previously - i tried searching but came up with nothing! Thanks for any info available on this - and happy holidays folks!
Sent from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio Z715e using xda premium
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Sensation doesnt have 4G technology (neither LTE nor WiMax) ..the T-Mobile US 4G is just a marketing of their speeds which used to be good at that point of time (remember year and half ago ) ..
Sensation only supports HSPA (14.4 Mbps ) thats all ..which is still a 3G band
and to Get 4G first we need to have Hardware support ..which is obviously lacking