[Q] What is S-Off and what is the difference between Sensation and the 4g. - HTC Sensation

Hello every one, I am thinking of getting a Sensation so decided to ask you about 2 issues ;
1) I keep seeing S-Off and for the hell of me I know not what this is.
2) While attempting a purchase on Amazon for phone and accessories, I always see Sensation and Sensation 4g. I can guess that the 4G has the 4g network capabilities which I will not need (in Egypt we do not have it yet) but for accessories will it really matter or is it the same when it comes to accessories and only the protocol differs.
Thanks a lot for the replies.

Accessories are the same.
S-off is r/w access to the nand on which system recovery and boot are stored.

Thanks. So no I can purchase accessories without needing to worry. As for the S-Off I still do not comprehend. What is it again?? Is it the ability to read and write to the nand from the recovery partition. did I understand correctly.

There is no difference between Sensation and Sensation 4G other than branding. Both have the same HSPA+ speeds, T-mobile is just branding it as "4G". Sensation 4G is for USA, and Sensation is for the other parts of the world (S4G is locked)
Swyped from my HTC Sensation

Pretty much. If s-off means nothing to you in terms of rooting your phone enjoy your purchase.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA Premium App

S-off means you can put modified software (ROMs) on your device and generally make it better. You have two methods to get S-OFF: xda way (revolutionary.io) or official HTC way. The xda way is better
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in layman's terms, it's "rooting"your phone (ability to replace any and all files on your phone). Being able to do that will allow you the ability to change any visual aspect you can think possible on your phone, just about any kind of performance, over clocking your cpu, undervolting your phone, enabling faster charging times, extreme power saving abilities, even the ability top change the entire operating system to something completely different... Along with loads more you can do that were never possible "stock". Removing these chains can come at a risk if you don't know what you're doing so make sure you research before unlocking your phones full potential.

Thanks every one for your explanation. Highly appreciated. I will get it for sure then. Cya soon on sensation sub forums.

Get the sensation without the t-mobile branding on it. You can flash tmobile rom if you like after s-off and it would be the same as the tmobile version sensation 4G, unless you like the tmobile branding stamped on your phone

don't forget the different bands!

skygear said:
don't forget the different bands!
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Hi skygear,
You and the user idavid actually posted contradicting claims You say the UMTS bands are _different_, idavid says they are the _same_ (several posts above yours). Can anyone actually verify what is actually the case?
Here's my phone - it's a T-Mobile Sensation 4G, and the website I bought it from originally claimed the UMTS bands were 900, 1700, 2100. When I got the box from them, the bands stated on the box were 1700, 2100, 1900 (in that order). I checked the website (newayci.com) again today and they corrected the specs to match those on the box, but in the carrier chart they claim my Sensation 4G won't work on Bell at all and only as 2G on Rogers - which does not make sense as Bell and Rogers use the same UMTS 1900 band.
So you see there's quite a lot of confusion, and it would be great if we could collectively clarify that. Is there any way to check it (except for getting a Rogers or Bell SIM with a 3G plan and putting that one in?)?
I am using the phone on Wind Mobile in Toronto, and it works fine, but I wasn't able to figure out so far if it will work as 3G on Rogers or Bell, who use UMTS 1900 band.
I posted the same question in another thread too, I'll report what I get from there (if anything).
Thanks in advance for help.

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[Q] HSDPA isnt working on htc inspire 4g

Hi, Guy actually i purchased HTC inspire 4g from someone it was rooted and have gingerbread 2.3.5 but the thing is HSDPA isnt working only G (GPRS) and E (EDGE) connections are working i downloaded update from HTC website the update was available 2.3.3 i also installed and checked in that rom same thing E connection not showing H+ (HSDPA) what should i do now please guyss help me out i still try to solve that since 2 weeks i also researched on this matter at xda developers and i saw that some guys are saying that all HTC inspire 4g are HSDPA and HSUPA locked you have to unlock that i dont know how to do that and i dont know how many persent (%) this news is correct but i really need help please help me out guyssss.
i saw this news but the link isnt working which is highlighted to red color (I use this method one)
Originally Posted by d4redevil
I got my HTC fully working with the links provided below.
All HTC Inspire stock phones come with HSPA LOCK, you must unlock HSPA
starting with these steps:
Follow these steps.
1.
*ROOTED
*ENG SOFF
(I use this method, and works perfect: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961406)
*I use Radio- 26.06.04.06_M, share
(link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...877295&page=50)
*HSPA UNLOCKED
(get stock/rooted/hspa unlock rom here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=965634) flash it
and update it, then.
*and i use Cm 7.2 ROM
*Once you have that, LOCK YOUR DEVICE TO ALL NEW WCDMA/HSPA TOWERS ONLY!
*Also connects to edge, etc.etc. if your not hspa/wcdma area.
Dial *#*#4636#*#* on the dailer.
Select Phone Information.
Scroll down to "Set Preferred Network Type".
Select WCDMA Only. and hit home and reboot,
works, its easy and u your inspire is SICK!
thanks to xda, and cyanogen mod again!
I hope this helps
shawn87 said:
Hi, Guy actually i purchased HTC inspire 4g from someone it was rooted and have gingerbread 2.3.5 but the thing is HSDPA isnt working only G (GPRS) and E (EDGE) connections are working i downloaded update from HTC website the update was available 2.3.3 i also installed and checked in that rom same thing E connection not showing H+ (HSDPA) what should i do now please guyss help me out i still try to solve that since 2 weeks i also researched on this matter at xda developers and i saw that some guys are saying that all HTC inspire 4g are HSDPA and HSUPA locked you have to unlock that i dont know how to do that and i dont know how many persent (%) this news is correct but i really need help please help me out guyssss.
i saw this news but the link isnt working which is highlighted to red color (I use this method one)
Originally Posted by d4redevil
I got my HTC fully working with the links provided below.
All HTC Inspire stock phones come with HSPA LOCK, you must unlock HSPA
starting with these steps:
Follow these steps.
1.
*ROOTED
*ENG SOFF
(I use this method, and works perfect: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961406)
*I use Radio- 26.06.04.06_M, share
(link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...877295&page=50)
*HSPA UNLOCKED
(get stock/rooted/hspa unlock rom here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=965634) flash it
and update it, then.
*and i use Cm 7.2 ROM
*Once you have that, LOCK YOUR DEVICE TO ALL NEW WCDMA/HSPA TOWERS ONLY!
*Also connects to edge, etc.etc. if your not hspa/wcdma area.
Dial *#*#4636#*#* on the dailer.
Select Phone Information.
Scroll down to "Set Preferred Network Type".
Select WCDMA Only. and hit home and reboot,
works, its easy and u your inspire is SICK!
thanks to xda, and cyanogen mod again!
I hope this helps
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This only works if you are on ATT if you are on another carrier all you will get is Edge.
Sounds like you have t-mobile service! Who is your service provider?
ai6908 said:
Sounds like you have t-mobile service! Who is your service provider?
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Wholly hell where did you come from lmao
Sent from my Inspire 4G using Tapatalk 2
ai6908 said:
Sounds like you have t-mobile service! Who is your service provider?
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Am in srilanka now am using dialog GSM connection
shawn87 said:
Am in srilanka now am using dialog GSM connection
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Your issue is that your carrier uses a different 3g band. The Max you will get is edge
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zelendel said:
This only works if you are on ATT if you are on another carrier all you will get is Edge.
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Really? then dude how can i get H+ Speed in other countries like SRILANKA
i used other HTC's Model all are working perfectly (like incredible droid verizon, HTC evo design 4g sprint etc...
any solution???
shawn87 said:
Really? then dude how can i get H+ Speed in other countries like SRILANKA
i used other HTC's Model all are working perfectly (like incredible droid verizon, HTC evo design 4g sprint etc...
any solution???
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You have to get a device that uses the same bands. Devices in the US use different bands depending on the carrier. You won't be able to do anything about it on the inspire
Sent from my Inspire 4G using Tapatalk 2
shawn87 said:
Really? then dude how can i get H+ Speed in other countries like SRILANKA
i used other HTC's Model all are working perfectly (like incredible droid verizon, HTC evo design 4g sprint etc...
any solution???
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Do you realize there is a huge difference between CDMA and GSM right. In the us they all use different 3g bands.
You should always research your device before you by it. Mainly if buying a device from another county
Sent from my Inspire 4G using Tapatalk 2
zelendel said:
Do you realize there is a huge difference between CDMA and GSM right. In the us they all use different 3g bands.
You should always research your device before you by it. Mainly if buying a device from another county
Sent from my Inspire 4G using Tapatalk 2
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Yep, now i understood thanks guys n specially to zelendel:good: he replied me 3 times
i really like to use HTC devices specially american devices carrier like T-mobile, Verizon, Sprint, AT&T. Guys i have a question i want to know which device carrier is the best n which 3g band can normally use in asian? is there any thing throught that i can check like IMEI number or any code throught that i can check?
shawn87 said:
Yep, now i understood thanks guys n specially to zelendel:good: he replied me 3 times
i really like to use HTC devices specially american devices carrier like T-mobile, Verizon, Sprint, AT&T. Guys i have a question i want to know which device carrier is the best n which 3g band can normally use in asian? is there any thing throught that i can check like IMEI number or any code throught that i can check?
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The best thing to do is find out what bands your carrier uses. Then compare it to the ones for a phone you like. If att doesn't work then T-Mobile maybe a better option as they use the Euro bands where ATT doesnt
Sent for a corner cell in Arkhum
Your best bet is to use probably a t-mobile phone from US or phones from SE asia and europe for indian subcontinent countries. AT&T based 3G phones will probably wont work there...but again like zelendel said, check it out with your service provider first...
@ zelendel! finally coming out of WM shell brotha!!
ai6908 said:
Your best bet is to use probably a t-mobile phone from US or phones from SE asia and europe for indian subcontinent countries. AT&T based 3G phones will probably wont work there...but again like zelendel said, check it out with your service provider first...
@ zelendel! finally coming out of WM shell brotha!!
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welcome man. If there is anything you need feel free to hit me up. I am no dev but if you click on the gotham link you will see I am still up to my old tricks lmao

T-mobile 4g Radio

OKAY so I decided to update this thread:
There are two versions of the One X. One with aws bands and one without. I have a device without AWS (I am about 80 % sure). There are reports of people getting 4g on AWS with the Rogers Version as of now, and more testers need to check it out as it could still be possible on ATT.
This flash here theoretically could enable the One X radio to lach onto AWS (The radios here are for the One S Ville.)
http://ville.giev.de/?page_id=42
I have flashed all three, and although I did not get 4g, I got faster ping and a near immediate connection onto T-mobile. To all the people saying this will "brick" the phone, it does not and you have nothing to worry. But as always make sure to do a backup. The radio hacks for the Skyrocket/Note were also based on flashing the Galaxy S2 radio directly on top. This should work the same.
I'm interested in this as well. What does is involved and the risk? I don't have warranty on my phone, so I'm a little bit leery in being first.
ver2go said:
I'm interested in this as well. What does is involved and the risk? I don't have warranty on my phone, so I'm a little bit leery in being first.
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if your rooted ull should be fine just make a back up of ur current set up. this is just a clockwork flash, it may not even flash, but if it does then there's a high chance of 4g.
i've done radio hacks before for the droid 3/skyrocket/note all from a similar concept. ex. flashing the t-mobile galaxy s2 radio on the note, to enable 4g.
if anyone could provide me with a better solution for an unlock i am sure i can get this to work. seems that the htc unlocker server is down right now
it's the same thing as flashing different radios via clockwork posted in the One X android dev forum
I'll give it a try, hopefully it won't mess anything up. So I just flash the radio in recovery. If no good, I just flash the correct radio again?
There is a one click no HTC Dev bootloader unlock in the Dev forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1734558
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I flashed:
Radio from RUU_Ville_U_HTC_Europe_1.78.401.2 [Recommended] (update by rhcp)
0.16.31501S.17_2_10.23.31501S.10L
From your link. It flashed correctly. The phone on data and voice still works. I confirmed the version in Settings is not my original:
0.17.32.09.12_10.86.32.08L
I'm still on Edge, but I'm in a crappy cell area, so still not certain if radio or my area. I might give the:
Radio from Stock T-Mobile US (update by rhcp)
0.16.31501S.02_10.18.31501S.08L
Radio a try too.
good to hear no negative results got my phone unlocked so i will be testing tonight. also do u guys have the newer sims or older ones?
I have an older sim I believe. It is one that came from an activation kit I bought off ebay. I tried the T-Mobile radio and same results, still on Edge, but still could be my location.
What in gods name are you guys doing! ? Are you trying to brick your phones? It's already been confirmed that the hardware on this phone does not support the proper bands for T-Mobile 3g!
seh6183 said:
What in gods name are you guys doing! ? Are you trying to brick your phones? It's already been confirmed that the hardware on this phone does not support the proper bands for T-Mobile 3g!
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Prove it. Why would the phone soc be any different than the one s one.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
ECEXCURSION said:
Prove it. Why would the phone soc be any different than the one s one.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium
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It's not just the SOC that determines hardware compatibility. There are various radio amplifiers and filters which are tuned to the specific frequencies that the phone is likely to encounter. If a phone is going to be sold in multiple markets, sometimes the hardware filters are set up for all frequencies and some are disabled via software, but often times this is not the case.
It's not impossible that a radio reflash can make it work, though highly improbable.
sassafras
Interested in this. There might be better luck flashing the tmo radio since I don't think any European operators use AWS bands, correct me if I'm wrong.
Can anyone explain why flashing this radio from a different device won't brick our phones?
tspx23 said:
good to hear no negative results got my phone unlocked so i will be testing tonight. also do u guys have the newer sims or older ones?
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I have a tmobile one s, but i also have the one from att and i am so interested on using this phone over tmobile 4g let me know if i can of help. I am using my micro sim that came with the one s and i am getting edge (asume its the latest from tmobbile 4g mucro sim. I am on 1.85 rooted but i did not unlock. though i am sure we can flash through CWM. any ways i am sure there is a way out to get 3g or 4g on the one x on tmobile did not find the way yet.
flashed both of the t-mobile modems no luck for me either, although my ping is significantly higher and connects to t-mobile a LOT quicker.
does anyone know how to edit the LTE settings. it is odd but for most ATT LTE phones they have the 1700mhz frequency i think it would be a matter of just defaulting that....
the radios also show up in my baseband so i have successful flashes
EDIT: one more thing, before i was not able to use data at all considering i had the newer t-mobile sims but now data works but on edge speed.
danada said:
Interested in this. There might be better luck flashing the tmo radio since I don't think any European operators use AWS bands, correct me if I'm wrong.
Can anyone explain why flashing this radio from a different device won't brick our phones?
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it's just a file in your system. it could potentially brick your phone but you can always get into recovery and restore. which is why i stated you should create a back up of your device before trying it out.
however, i was fairly certain it wouldn't do that because the internals of the One S/One X are nearly identical, they both share the same processor and most likely similar (if not same, radios).
either way, the the radios work, getting me higher ping, and working data without having to switch out my sim for an older one, hope there is a way to activate the 1700 band !
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_x_at&t-4614.php
EDIT 2: apparently there are two models of the ATT One X/XL one with the 1700 band and one without
tspx23 said:
flashed both of the t-mobile modems no luck for me either, although my ping is significantly higher and connects to t-mobile a LOT quicker.
does anyone know how to edit the LTE settings. it is odd but for most ATT LTE phones they have the 1700mhz frequency i think it would be a matter of just defaulting that....
the radios also show up in my baseband so i have successful flashes
EDIT: one more thing, before i was not able to use data at all considering i had the newer t-mobile sims but now data works but on edge speed.
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Likely the software has been changed to support T-Mobile, but the hardware (filters, amplifiers, etc) are non-existent, so you'll never get actual 1700 MHz AWS support.
Of course, this is just a 50,000 foot view perspective without actually trying it myself.
sassafras
sassafras_ said:
Likely the software has been changed to support T-Mobile, but the hardware (filters, amplifiers, etc) are non-existent, so you'll never get actual 1700 MHz AWS support.
Of course, this is just a 50,000 foot view perspective without actually trying it myself.
sassafras
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you might be right about this one but there are certain One X/XL's that do have the 1700 band found out through some searching and trying to figure out the reason behind it.
If that's correct.... the people with the 1700 band would have 4g when they flash this radio! also use *#*#4636#*#* to change network type to lte/gsm
--- for other phones though like the Skyrocket/Note they were directly compatible with T-mobile radios.
Okay, I flashed the Tmo One S radio and did not receive a brick. What I did receive is a not-so-good connection that will switch between HSPA+ and 3G quite often.
I don't have a WIND sim to test with, but I tried running AT commands on my phone and they don't seem to be working. I tried doing a network scan with AT+COPS=? waited forever and had nothing displayed.
Strange...
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Rebooted and ran the commands again. Still don't see any AWS carriers.
uid=0 [email protected]:/ # +COPS: (1,"CAN Rogers Wireless Inc.","ROGERS","302720",7
),(2,"ROGERS","","302720",2),(1,"CAN Rogers Wireless Inc.","ROGERS","302720",0),
(1,"","","302220",2),(1,"","","302610",2),(1,"","","302610",7),(1,"","","302220"
,7),,(0,1,2,3,4),(0,1,2)
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danada said:
Okay, I flashed the Tmo One S radio and did not receive a brick. What I did receive is a not-so-good connection that will switch between HSPA+ and 3G quite often.
I don't have a WIND sim to test with, but I tried running AT commands on my phone and they don't seem to be working. I tried doing a network scan with AT+COPS=? waited forever and had nothing displayed.
Strange...
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Rebooted and ran the commands again. Still don't see any AWS carriers.
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Don't you need a wind sim to connect im pretty sure the Canadian version will work on aws
Confirmed on my end that even with the T-Mobile radio, I'm not getting HSPA+. Even when I drove by the Moscone center where 1900Mhz was refarmed during Apple's WWDC (maybe it was just that day?). I was hoping this would be like the Note and Rocket where I can flash different radios.
Any other new phone capable of this? The S III? If not, I may have to either wait for 1900MHz refarm or switch to Straight Talk.
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Confirmed on my end that even with the T-Mobile radio, I'm not getting HSPA+. Even when I drove by the Moscone center where 1900Mhz was refarmed during Apple's WWDC (maybe it was just that day?). I was hoping this would be like the Note and Rocket where I can flash different radios.
Any other new phone capable of this? The S III? If not, I may have to either wait for 1900MHz refarm or switch to Straight Talk.
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Picking up an att s3 today to test it out. Most likely there's two versions of one x one with aws and one without. I know mine doesn't though.
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Don't you need a wind sim to connect im pretty sure the Canadian version will work on aws
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I'm not exactly sure of this one.
If someone is willing to let me cut up their WIND sim (or lend me their WIND microsim), I'll re-flash the tmo radio and meet you somewhere to test it (Toronto, please).
~dan
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Just popped in an old WIND sim that I used to test AWS connectivity at first. Saw WIND Away with the standard radio, and after flashing the Tmo radio I see WIND Away and AT&T (AT+COPS=? shows Rogers, ATT, Telus, Bell).
I live by the lake, that would explain why ATT shows up.
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Check this out http://imgur.com/Nb984,rUvM6. Not using the One S radio...

[Q] How do I know if my phone can get 4G

It's probably a silly question but I don't know how to check. I bought an HTC One X off ebay, it' s brand new and unlocked (but I can tell it used to be on orange.). I'm currently on O2 but thinking about switching so I can get 4G but I won't bother if my phone can't get it. So how do I know if it can use the 4G network?
Thanks in advance.
Assume you are talking LTE (although the official definition of "4G" was revised to include evolved forms of HSPA).
For LTE compatibility, you have to find the specs for the exact model of One X you have (which may get confusing) and find out what band/frequency of LTE the phone is compatible with. Don't confuse this with the GSM or HSPA bands, you've got to look for the LTE band.
Then you need to find the LTE band/frequency used by your carrier. If the LTE frequencies are the same (phone is compatible with your carrier's LTE network) and the phone is unlocked, it should work.
Keep in mind that frequency/band support is most usually set in hardware. So the phone has to be equipped (in hardware) with the correct band. No amount of radio flashing will change the LTE band.
Thanks for your help. So how do I find out the exact model of my phone?
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IllusiaX said:
So how do I find out the exact model of my phone?
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And therein lies the challenge. Matching your phone to a model number or accurate specs is not an easy thing. Telling us what carrier version or country would be a good start.
Also, be sure to hit the "thanks" button for any of my posts that you find helpful.
Thanks! I'm on O2 pay as you go but I bought the phone unlocked from eBay, it was previously on the orange network. I'm in the UK and I'm pretty sure the phone is a UK model.
I can't find the thanks button on this app but ill be sure to press it when I check in on my laptop
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[Q] No HSPA+

Hi, I recently got a HTC one X and a Three Sim. According to the network checker I'm in the ultra fast area, I don't ever seem to get a HSPA+ 21MBIT Signal, I'm using a app called Network Signal Info, the max it goes to is HSPA 14.4MBIT, I checked the specs on my phone and it does support HSPA+ 21MBIT.
Anyone know why I never get the HSPA+ signal/speed ? My brother on the same network in the same area gets HSPA+, he has a Samsung Note 2.
Zaim2012 said:
Hi, I recently got a HTC one X and a Three Sim. According to the network checker I'm in the ultra fast area, I don't ever seem to get a HSPA+ 21MBIT Signal, I'm using a app called Network Signal Info, the max it goes to is HSPA 14.4MBIT, I checked the specs on my phone and it does support HSPA+ 21MBIT.
Anyone know why I never get the HSPA+ signal/speed ? My brother on the same network in the same area gets HSPA+, he has a Samsung Note 2.
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You want to make sure you have the right APN settings. Are you rooted or on stock software? I don't know how that career works, but for AT&T, different sim cards with differently. There are LTE sim cards, HSPA+, sim cards, or just plan EDGE sim cards. You want to make sure that is something as well. Can you provide a bit more information? HSPA is bascially the basic 3G service (at least here in the states). Also, what spectrum is that career using?
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You want to make sure you have the right APN settings. Are you rooted or on stock software? I don't know how that career works, but for AT&T, different sim cards with differently. There are LTE sim cards, HSPA+, sim cards, or just plan EDGE sim cards. You want to make sure that is something as well. Can you provide a bit more information? HSPA is bascially the basic 3G service (at least here in the states). Also, what spectrum is that career using?
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Hi, thanks for your reply, I've checked the APN settings and they seem fine, I'm using the stock firmware (Android 4.1). My other brother who's on Tmobile has a HTC one S, he gets the HSPA+ 21, i put his sim in my one X and it doesn't go above HSPA 14.4, he tried my sim in his and he get hspa+ 21, so it seems the issue is with the phone.
I'm about to do a factory reset, hopefully that'll sort it out, if not i'm going to have to contact HTC.
I still don't know of you are rooted or not. You may want to ruu to determine if it is a hardware issue. If not then contact HTC.
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Herc08 said:
I still don't know of you are rooted or not. You may want to ruu to determine if it is a hardware issue. If not then contact HTC.
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Hi the phone isn't rooted. The Reset didn't work, sent a email to HTC. I really don't want to root the phone, will wait and see what HTC say.
Alright then. Not going to advise rooting. If you have the 3.18 software then I don't know what could be the reason.
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Herc08 said:
Alright then. Not going to advise rooting. If you have the 3.18 software then I don't know what could be the reason.
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My software number is 3.14.401.31.
HTC Replied saying:
"Thank you for contacting HTC regarding your HTC One X.
My name is X and I am a Technical Support Agent for the HTC Written Team.
I'm sorry to hear that you are experiencing difficulties with accessing HSPA+ on your device.
In regards with this, there is no network within the UK that supports any speed above 14.4MB using HSPA. If there has been a carrier modification applied to allow DCHSDPA then it may be possible although the HTC One X and HTC One S do not support this.
If it is the HTC One SV then this would allow DCHSDPA to function if the modification has been applied by your network provider."
So how can they explain why others get HSPA+ and I don't? an inferior phone (HTC ONE S) gets HSPA+ with my sim but I don't, even with the sim's swapped i still don't get HSPA+ 21mbit.
Couldn't tell you. But you have the international one x, so this is the wrong forums for you.
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[Q] How can the 4G frequency be changed from 1700mhz to 1800 mhz

I've searched for 3 days now, trying to get some info on this, there are various discussions on xda and on other sites that come along the same line, most of the answers are:
No it can't be done - it's hardware related - there are different variants for each region (seems this is not the case with the ONE)
You need someone with QPST but it probably can not be done.
But there is none that actually clears it up, it's mostly "I think it is...................."
What I found out is that the chip regulating 4G LTE connectivity on all HTC one variants is the same (600 MHz Hexagon QDSP6V5A part of the MSM8974 chip and it can sport the ALL LTE frequencies), so it is not a hardware difference between the EMEA and the Verizon, now the question is do I need someone with this QPST or will it only be a case of changing the baseband - all this, is my own conclusion, feel free to give me feedback on this
now on the Verizon site LTE spec says:
Network: LTE Band 13/4 (700/1700 MHz)
CDMA/1xEVDO Rev. A (800/1900 MHz)
the HTC site for Verizon says 4G LTE:
EMEA: 800/900/1800/2600 MHz
Verizon: 700/AWS/1800/2600 MHz
Yet I still don't get any 4G
Sadly there is so much info and it's hard to follow it all. So please can someone explain what and how things actually work?
Why do I need to know all this? Cause I have a Verizon m8 and I'm using it in Europe and I can't get 4G - atm I'm using Insertcoin with ElementalX 8.0.5 kernel and everything is working on the phone aside 4G - I flashed various roms on it, never had ANY problem, aside small things that a Google search solved.
Anyone that can enlighten me? Any help would be appreciated.
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So are you not getting any 4G LTE? If so I'm not sure why. I get 4G LTE almost everywhere I go.
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Nope not getting it at all
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masucu said:
I've searched for 3 days now, trying to get some info on this, there are various discussions on xda and on other sites that come along the same line, most of the answers are:
No it can't be done - it's hardware related - there are different variants for each region (seems this is not the case with the ONE)
You need someone with QPST but it probably can not be done.
But there is none that actually clears it up, it's mostly "I think it is...................."
What I found out is that the chip regulating 4G LTE connectivity on all HTC one variants is the same (600 MHz Hexagon QDSP6V5A part of the MSM8974 chip and it can sport the ALL LTE frequencies), so it is not a hardware difference between the EMEA and the Verizon, now the question is do I need someone with this QPST or will it only be a case of changing the baseband - all this, is my own conclusion, feel free to give me feedback on this
now on the Verizon site LTE spec says:
Network: LTE Band 13/4 (700/1700 MHz)
CDMA/1xEVDO Rev. A (800/1900 MHz)
the HTC site for Verizon says 4G LTE:
EMEA: 800/900/1800/2600 MHz
Verizon: 700/AWS/1800/2600 MHz
Yet I still don't get any 4G
Sadly there is so much info and it's hard to follow it all. So please can someone explain what and how things actually work?
Why do I need to know all this? Cause I have a Verizon m8 and I'm using it in Europe and I can't get 4G - atm I'm using Insertcoin with ElementalX 8.0.5 kernel and everything is working on the phone aside 4G - I flashed various roms on it, never had ANY problem, aside small things that a Google search solved.
Anyone that can enlighten me? Any help would be appreciated.
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Each model must have a different *antenna* configuration so that they are optimized to their respective regions. The *antenna* is separate from the actual radio you mentioned above. This is why there are so many models, which I thought I had explained in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2710720&page=5
Even if you could override what band the phone connected to, the performance would be abysmal. The fix for this would be to physically change the antenna. If you could do this on your own, you deserve an honorary degree in electrical engineering since antenna design isn’t the easiest thing in the world. Here’s where to start: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell's_equations
Since there is a discrepancy between the Verizon and HTC spec sheets, I would do the following:
1.) Focus your research on seeing which one is correct by contacting HTC and Verizon.
2.) If Verizon’s is correct, you’re done. Romania’s carriers only transmit LTE on 1800 Mhz (band 3). Otherwise…
3.) If HTC’s sheet is correct, focus on why you can’t detect 1800 MHz. It must be something in your unlock method or Verizon really locked the hell out of the radios for some reason.
subhumanderelict said:
Each model must have a different *antenna* configuration so that they are optimized to their respective regions. The *antenna* is separate from the actual radio you mentioned above. This is why there are so many models, which I thought I had explained in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2710720&page=5
Even if you could override what band the phone connected to, the performance would be abysmal. The fix for this would be to physically change the antenna. If you could do this on your own, you deserve an honorary degree in electrical engineering since antenna design isn’t the easiest thing in the world. Here’s where to start: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell's_equations
Since there is a discrepancy between the Verizon and HTC spec sheets, I would do the following:
1.) Focus your research on seeing which one is correct by contacting HTC and Verizon.
2.) If Verizon’s is correct, you’re done. Romania’s carriers only transmit LTE on 1800 Mhz (band 3). Otherwise…
3.) If HTC’s sheet is correct, focus on why you can’t detect 1800 MHz. It must be something in your unlock method or Verizon really locked the hell out of the radios for some reason.
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Cheers mate, went to an actual engineer that handles repairs here in Romania for various brands and we both decided to make it our own personal project to make this happen a Verizon M8 turned into a Euro version one, ill report back with the results in about 2 weeks. Seems technically it can be done, just needs a some work. Thanks again for the reply though.
masucu said:
Cheers mate, went to an actual engineer that handles repairs here in Romania for various brands and we both decided to make it our own personal project to make this happen a Verizon M8 turned into a Euro version one, ill report back with the results in about 2 weeks. Seems technically it can be done, just needs a some work. Thanks again for the reply though.
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That's actually kind of admirable! Seriously, I wish you luck; it would be really awesome if you succeeded. If you begin making progress, I would love to hear about it!
Just in case you didn't know about it, here is the teardown guide with a link to the tools you'd need to open up the M8:
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/HTC+One+(M8)+Teardown/23615
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masucu said:
Cheers mate, went to an actual engineer that handles repairs here in Romania for various brands and we both decided to make it our own personal project to make this happen a Verizon M8 turned into a Euro version one, ill report back with the results in about 2 weeks. Seems technically it can be done, just needs a some work. Thanks again for the reply though.
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Hi Macusu,
Just to remember, I believe the problem is not only related to the antenna itself, maybe there are other kind of locks since, as discussed in the other topic, Here in Brazil and I`m not being able to attach it to 4G 2600MHz (Even if the phone supports this frequency).
UntouchableS said:
Hi Macusu,
Just to remember, I believe the problem is not only related to the antenna itself, maybe there are other kind of locks since, as discussed in the other topic, Here in Brazil and I`m not being able to attach it to 4G 2600MHz (Even if the phone supports this frequency).
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Thing is they are waiting for all the tools atm, I mean they don't yet have all the new kits for it, it should be arriving, and the engineer is actually a certified person being one that works in a certified HTC service, so once we get the entire .... kit, he will start working on it toghther with the software engineer and so on, hope that it will all sort out, i did get another phone in the mean time as well, but as i said i will be reporting back.
Thank
subhumanderelict said:
That's actually kind of admirable! Seriously, I wish you luck; it would be really awesome if you succeeded. If you begin making progress, I would love to hear about it!
Just in case you didn't know about it, here is the teardown guide with a link to the tools you'd need to open up the M8:
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/HTC+One+(M8)+Teardown/23615
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Thanks for the guide, hopefully we wont need it but I will let you know how it goes.
masucu said:
Thanks for the guide, hopefully we wont need it but I will let you know how it goes.
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Did you succeed?
MikkelJakobsen said:
Did you succeed?
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I would like to know also...
sandm4n said:
I would like to know also...
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So would I...I'm also from Brazil and brought the Verizon model because it is said to support the 2600 frequency. So frustrating

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