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I woke up this morning at 5am an found that my Thunderbolt was running very hot. 60 degrees Celsius to be exact and the phones charging led was flashing from amber to green very quickly. I pulled the phone off its stock charger and pulled the battery to find that the battery its self was very hot and even producing and odd smell. I let the phone cool for five mins an once cold to the touch, I installed my spare battery and with heavy use, I am back to running temp of 34c and not sure what caused this??? Phone is rooted an running Bamf 1.6.2 overclocked to 1.4 and has been running like this since may 5th with no issues. I have noticed in the past two days, so very rapid battery drain but haven't installed anything new and i have all HTC sense apps not syncing... Any ideas?
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Do you use SetCPU to overclock? I would recommend it, as I think it would've prevented your phone from overheating.
I have 3 profiles set up, and then have the overall max set to 1.4ghz and min set to 245mhz using Smartass. I've found it's always a good idea to have a profile set up to limit the overclocking when the temperature is >50C, to prevent damage to the CPU. I have a profile to limit the max OC when the phone is charging, to help prevent it from overheating. I also use a profile to limit the max when the screen is off, since you don't need the extra speed then, and it helps on battery life. My profiles are:
Temp > 50C - Max=768; Min=245
Screen Off - Max=368; Min=245
Charging - Max=1024; Min=245
Just set up all these profiles and even added another. Thanks for the tip! I hope this helps with battery life also.
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tipsofme said:
Just set up all these profiles and even added another. Thanks for the tip! I hope this helps with battery life also.
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No problem, man. Hope it helps!
My battery life is night and day different! Thank you again!
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Are any of the governors better than the others for handling this?
The goverer used really depends on your own personal usage of the phone. Experment and see which works best for you. FWIW I use interactive and am pretty happy with it.
Ill try that one out. I found Ondemand to waste too much battery, and smartass to be passable.
i just had something weird happen myself. i just installed NONS3NS3 rom and then 'adownloader'. had it downloading a file then all of a sudden the phone locked up and was completely unresponsive. i pulled the battery and it was incredibly hot. waited for it to cool down and now everything is normal again. bizarre, because i could use adownloader just fine when i was on CM7.
My phone gets warm to when i charge it but not 60c. The kernel can cause this too.
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I woke up this morning at 5am an found that my Thunderbolt was running very hot. 60 degrees Celsius to be exact and the phones charging led was flashing from amber to green very quickly. I pulled the phone off its stock charger and pulled the battery to find that the battery its self was very hot and even producing and odd smell. I let the phone cool for five mins an once cold to the touch, I installed my spare battery and with heavy use, I am back to running temp of 34c and not sure what caused this??? Phone is rooted an running Bamf 1.6.2 overclocked to 1.4 and has been running like this since may 5th with no issues. I have noticed in the past two days, so very rapid battery drain but haven't installed anything new and i have all HTC sense apps not syncing... Any ideas?
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I would probably not use that battery again. Sounds like it crapped out on you. 2 days of decreasing battery life, than that...
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I would probably not use that battery again. Sounds like it crapped out on you. 2 days of decreasing battery life, than that...
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I don't think the battery has any issue. When a Li-on battery fails, it will create a lot of heat, but it will also alter the resistance and voltage characteristics in ways the phone will detect.
If SetCPU resolved the issue, then you've got an issue with your ROM. It shouldn't do that under normal circumstances, and even if you're using SetCPU, something is still trying to use resources abusively. I'd try a different ROM or radio and get SetCPU off of there. It's actually abusive in itself with resources. It's great for testing OC settings, but for long term implementations of settings, a script is the ideal tool for the job as it implements setting directly to the kernel with no further intervention.
I have an unlocked T-Mobile Sensation 4G and I've tried a lot of different rom (with Sense and AOSP, GB and ICS).
I had made battery calibration every rom change (Full charge -> wipe battery stats -> do some full discharge/charge circles in normal use).
Every time I have 50-100 mA battery drain in "sleep" according to Current Widget and another battery widget (tried another to commit that Current Widget tells truth).
The phone settings are maximum power-saving:
Fixed small brightness
2g only
Data and auto-sync are turned off
Wifi only if needed
CPU is downclocked to 1.2 gHz
Battery is stock. Phone is two months old.
In my regular usage (1 hours of calls, 10 min wifi) phone dies in 12 hours after full charge.
It is not my first android and I'm not a total noob. My Desire HD with one year old battery live 2 days with my usage.
Also I notice, that sometimes battery left is not accurate and changed after reboot to a bigger value. For example, 80% left -> reboot -> 82% left.
Any suggestion?
Thanks in advance!
Sorry for my poor English...
My suggestions:
1. Use system tuner or a similar app to check up on which apps are draining the most power (keeping the CPU on, etc).
2. If no culprit can be found, full wipe and reflash your ROM, and refrain from downloading any apps, see if that improves battery drain. If it does, slowly install more apps until the battery drain goes up again, and you'll know whats causing it.
3. If reflashing does not help batter life, you might want to try another ROM or kernel.
4. If none of those help, or even if they do, I highly recommend an ANKER battery, it'll at the very least boost your battery life a few more hours.
5. If the battery life still sucks, then it might be a hardware issue and you might want to get it exchanged or whatnot.
I used to have the same high battery drain problem, but after flashing new ROMS/Kernels and switching to an ANKER Battery, I now get 2 days of light/medium use out of my Sensation.
Currently using Insert Coin 4.5.0 with 1.5GHz overclock+undervolt if you're interested in trying.
MoodyTunic said:
My suggestions:
1. Use system tuner or a similar app to check up on which apps are draining the most power (keeping the CPU on, etc).
2. If no culprit can be found, full wipe and reflash your ROM, and refrain from downloading any apps, see if that improves battery drain. If it does, slowly install more apps until the battery drain goes up again, and you'll know whats causing it.
3. If reflashing does not help batter life, you might want to try another ROM or kernel.
4. If none of those help, or even if they do, I highly recommend an ANKER battery, it'll at the very least boost your battery life a few more hours.
5. If the battery life still sucks, then it might be a hardware issue and you might want to get it exchanged or whatnot.
I used to have the same high battery drain problem, but after flashing new ROMS/Kernels and switching to an ANKER Battery, I now get 2 days of light/medium use out of my Sensation.
Currently using Insert Coin 4.5.0 with 1.5GHz overclock+undervolt if you're interested in trying.
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Thank you, I will try.
How much does your battery actually drain overnight? Should be around 1% per hour or less if all is well. Disregard currentwidget in deep sleep mode as the Sensation has a very broken meter.
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Kameeeleon said:
How much does your battery actually drain overnight? Should be around 1% per hour or less if all is well. Disregard currentwidget in deep sleep mode as the Sensation has a very broken meter.
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I'll check it this night.
With jumping battery meter I don't know if these values will be correct. But when the battery value reaches 0% the phone shuts down immediately and don't turn on. So 0% it counts well.
i think im also having the same issue . i checked current usage when in sleep mode.its between 50-80
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12hrs with the standard battery is actually very good for a sense build, without sense it should go around 15 - if the battery is in good condition. The battery driver for the sensation is very buggy and you won't get accurate results with any measurement app. Don't worry about the standby or inuse readings as they will both be wrong.
If you're battery drains faster than 1% per hour in standby, assuming you are in a good signal area, then use a system info app to see which program isn't sleeping, then uninstall that program.
But it doesn't sound to me like you have a problem.
According to the log file it drains 1-2% in hour (now I'm using aosp build, MIUI). I think, new Anker battery is the only way. Thanks to all!
Maybe in the future we'll get a more accurate battery driver...
Running ARHD 6.5.3 XE...noticing the battery is horrendous. Went to sleep and battery was at 48%. When I woke up 7 hours later battery was at 4%. The phone was idle the whole night. This seems like crazy battery drain. I have nothing to compare to because I got the Sensation about 4 days ago and the second I got home with it it was rooted and ARHD XE ICS was installed onto it. My previous phone was the T-Mo G2x which had terrible battery but nowhere close to the drain I am seeing with the Sensation running ARHD 6.5.3 ICS with Sebastian kernel at 1.6 ghz. Using SetCPU with ondemand governor 192 min and 1.6 max. Screen off profile with 192 min and 1 ghz max. Any idea or suggestions are greatly appreciated!!
Seems excessive, you could try battery monitor widget pro and/or system tuner pro to see what processes are running and record the state of your phone e.g. wifi on, awake, GPS, data etc.
What are the percentages if you look in battery usage in settings?
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Maybe it's the cause of overclock. I use hypernonsense (great rom, too bad its discontinued), and it has pretty good battery life until I installed the overclock kernel. I still keep it because it's a lot faster.
Still, the battery shouldn't drain that much. I would try to remove the overclock to see if it's still that bad. If not much improvement, I would try to install another rom.
I don't want to make a new thread about battery life, can I ask here ?
Previously I was running on 6.5.3 XE w/ Seb 1.6Ghz.
Check out the screenshots,during that time wifi and data plan is on,auto-sync with 2 gmails,twitter,FB and weather.Does it sucks or is this normal ? I'm using stock battery.
You want that screen off profile to be much lower - I have mine at 300MHz powersave governor (that way it isn't constantly polling) with no noticable loss of responsivity when I switch the screen on. Then fully charge the battery and reset the battery stats from within ClockworkMod or 4ext
Also, I'd highly recommend JuiceDefender Ultimate - it's really customizeable for things like only activating 3G when screen is on or when in certain apps, then switches it on for a min every so often when the screen is off to check emails etc.
Hope that helps/makes sense!
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I don't want to make a new thread about battery life, can I ask here ?
Previously I was running on 6.5.3 XE w/ Seb 1.6Ghz.
Check out the screenshots,during that time wifi and data plan is on,auto-sync with 2 gmails,twitter,FB and weather.Does it sucks or is this normal ? I'm using stock battery.
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If you haven't already, get SetCPU and create some profiles:
Screen off: 300Mhz governor powersave
I also have progressively lower clock speeds as the battery life diminishes.
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Running ARHD 6.5.3 XE...noticing the battery is horrendous. Went to sleep and battery was at 48%. When I woke up 7 hours later battery was at 4%. The phone was idle the whole night. This seems like crazy battery drain. I have nothing to compare to because I got the Sensation about 4 days ago and the second I got home with it it was rooted and ARHD XE ICS was installed onto it. My previous phone was the T-Mo G2x which had terrible battery but nowhere close to the drain I am seeing with the Sensation running ARHD 6.5.3 ICS with Sebastian kernel at 1.6 ghz. Using SetCPU with ondemand governor 192 min and 1.6 max. Screen off profile with 192 min and 1 ghz max. Any idea or suggestions are greatly appreciated!!
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We have the same issue since i bought my phone few months ago (I even try insertcoin and ARHD because of the problem, but no changes).
I've read through the forum and i think the culprit is the stock battery. I'm ordering Anker 1900mAh (it has good feeback) for replacement and i'll let you know if there's any differences.
Can no frills do profiles? I heard to use that with ARHD instead of SetCPU.
i use no frills, for me its the best cpu app, you just set your desired speed, and thats it. no fancy stuff just plain and simple..
Im also on ARHD 6.5.3 with overclocking to 1.6, governer is on demand... I can get between 36-48 hours on a full charge...
Screen is using a high proportion, turn the brightness down some if you haven't already. Mine is rarely more than about 15%.
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if you have 4ext recovery you can go to the wipe settings an click on "wipe battery stats" but your battery has to be fully loaded.
Thanks for the suggestions guys. I have done all of the above mentioned things but still getting very poor battery life. Are you guys using the Anker extended battery or stock?
i have the stock battery and i heard that the anker batteries are ****.
sometimes they just explode and i think the 200 mah more dont bring much more batterie life with it.
BillyBohne said:
i have the stock battery and i heard that the anker batteries are ****.
sometimes they just explode and i think the 200 mah more dont bring much more batterie life with it.
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How long do you get on a full charge with stock battery? I actually just ordered an Anker =/ hope it's not ****...I'm running ARHD 6.5.4 with Bricked kernel 192 min with 1566 max using lagfree governor...battery life really leaves something to be desired...getting about 5 hours from 100% to 15% ...tried wiping batt stats and trying different profiles in SetCPU as well as underclocking. Any suggestions please throw them my way!!
Part of the problem IS because it is an Anker battery. I have heard many bad reviews about their batteries. Another issue is that most "extended" batteries really aren't any better than stock. A lot of times they are WORSE than stock batteries. If you tested the mA with a good digital meter I bet you would find between 1200-1400 on a full charge, with a supposedly 1900mAh battery. I hate to break it to everyone like this, but the only TRUE extended batteries you will find will be physically larger than stock. You can slap whatever damn label you want on a 1500mAh battery. Call it 3500mAh for all I care, you can't deny what it really is. A 1500mAh battery. You can't get more charge out of a battery unless it is physically larger that the original.
And I don't know about you guys, but I am skeptical about true extended batteries for the Sensation. The antenna contacts are on the battery cover! That means they would have to ship you a modified battery cover to fit the bigger battery. If they screw up one contact or don't put enough material on it from the factory, your sensation will be a signal-less paperweight.
Another thing I suggest is downloading BetterBatteryStats. If you have a bit of knowledge about how Android's OS works, you might be able to look at the Wakelocks section and see if something is preventing your device from entering Deep Sleep mode...the top four causes of battery drain are the screen, WiFi while on but not connected, GPS, and applications locking your device out of Deep Sleep.
Thanks for the reply. I am currently using the stock battery shipped with the phone. What do I check for in the app you mentioned to see if my phone is entering deep sleep?
I attached a screenshot of the wakelock section. Let me know if anything looks suspicious or if you need to see a different screen. Thanks!
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Thanks for the reply. I am currently using the stock battery shipped with the phone. What do I check for in the app you mentioned to see if my phone is entering deep sleep?
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Sorry, I tend to ramble on a bit
Best way to check would be to click the first drop down menu and look through Wakelocks and Kernel Wakelocks after your phone has been running for a bit. Start up the application for the first time, accept the changelog stuff, then close it out and lock your screen. 5-10 minutes later check that dropdown and see if anything says *Wakelock* by it. There should be a gauge under each item, it shows a percentage of time the process has been running since last boot, charge, or whatever option you pick in the second drop down menu. If any of the gauges are almost full or beyond 50%, there's the culprit.
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Sorry, I tend to ramble on a bit
Best way to check would be to click the first drop down menu and look through Wakelocks and Kernel Wakelocks after your phone has been running for a bit. Start up the application for the first time, accept the changelog stuff, then close it out and lock your screen. 5-10 minutes later check that dropdown and see if anything says *Wakelock* by it. There should be a gauge under each item, it shows a percentage of time the process has been running since last boot, charge, or whatever option you pick in the second drop down menu. If any of the gauges are almost full or beyond 50%, there's the culprit.
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Check my post above I posted 2 screens with kernel wakelocks from the dropdown and partial wakelocks...don't know what either means thank you for your help!
From that screenshot I don't see any major partial wakelocks. The HTC Facebook sync doesn't seem to be helping, but it isn't causing too much of a drain at the same time...try peeking through kernel wakelocks and see if anything stands out
Holy crap, CNT is what is doing it! The device has been running for a full hour and it has locked your device into Awake mode 100% of the time. I will do some research and see what role it plays.
Kernel wakelocks is just 100% to "No reference since charged yet"
CM10 battery life is pretty poor, anyone found a solution? I remember on defy someone improved by using stock battd folder in place of the original one, however desire s doesn't have this folder. Undervolted, full charge cycle, disabled auto brightness light to moderate use and only 8 hours. Display is main culprit according to system, maybe its getting too much voltage or something? I'm no dev its just a thought
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Perhaps you should calibrate your battery with an app like battery calibration
"It's suggested, but not necessary, to let the phone fully discharge after calibration, then charged to 100% without break."
Make it twice or three time then you should see a difference.
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Perhaps you should calibrate your battery with an app like battery calibration
"It's suggested, but not necessary, to let the phone fully discharge after calibration, then charged to 100% without break."
Make it twice or three time then you should see a difference.
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Battery stats is a myth: http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...-battery-stats-does-not-improve-battery-life/
The difference seen is purely down to the full charge cycles done in this method, after about 5 days the battery stabilized anyway, thanks anyway
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CM10 battery life is pretty poor, anyone found a solution? I remember on defy someone improved by using stock battd folder in place of the original one, however desire s doesn't have this folder. Undervolted, full charge cycle, disabled auto brightness light to moderate use and only 8 hours. Display is main culprit according to system, maybe its getting too much voltage or something? I'm no dev its just a thought
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I have the same issue on Pacman (CM 10).
My - I hope temporary - solution is to disable 3G as much as I can. For everyday usage, 2G (Edge) is sufficient for me. At home I am on wifi anyway, so I perform the heavy tasks then.
I noticed a very big difference when using 2G only vs. mode "3G preferred". It seems that there is a 3G battery draining issue with CM.
3g is known to drain battery. Keep it at 2g for better battery life.
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rain987 said:
3g is known to drain battery. Keep it at 2g for better battery life.
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I know this trick from the defy forums, cm10 had the same issue on that phone, I'm getting the best battery life with cm10.1 build 12 with andromod kernel, using ondemandx governer gives normal -ish life even with 3g enabled
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My phone drains 5-6% in an hour when I am on 4G but doing nothing. Is this normal? It is Galaxy S Relay 4G i415 installing mpj battery as the stock was disappeared. Does 4G go into like sleep mode if I am not using it?
If you are on CM11, this is normal
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I'm not sure about the CM11 nightly, but the battery decrease seems quite profound. Try using LiquidSmooth by reventech. The ROM is super stable and has amazing battery life compared to CM11
Omni is also quite a bit better on idle battery life than CM11. I've clocked my phone as getting about 60 hours on one charge with moderate - low use. But to answer the original question: Yes, the phone goes into Deep Sleep when not in use. You may have other apps taking wakelocks that make the phone come out of this state periodically. check out cpuspy and wakelock detector if interested.