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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nf/20080514/tc_nf/59789
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Interesting...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nf/20080514/tc_nf/59789
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Cool. I'm pretty sure I'll get one. It will surely be much better than the pretty much messed-up and incapable Diamond.
I use my PDA for business purposes and couldn't care less for it in my personal world. That said, the iPhone can't touch the Windows Device in the business world.
- First there are issues with iTunes. I can't stand it and every time i tried installing it on my computer something stopped working. So unless they make it work with WMDC it won't work for me. I haven't seen (other than a virus) a software that is more invasive than iTunes!
- No WiFi Sync. I sync via Bluetooth all day long when I'm at the office.
- No or very limited customization/personalization!
- Usability! Don't take me wrong it is very user friendly in general especially if you never used a "Smart" phone/device, but try to dial a number while driving! On standard phones, you can blindly feel your way around the dial screen, not so on the iPhone. Well, if you have a PDA without numbers, you can always use voice dial and it works great for me. Not so on the iPhone. Or just try to imagine you have FAT FINGERS, then the screen doesn't work at all (not that you could dial a number on my Dash with fat fingers ) Have you ever tried to operate the iPhone in cold conditions. Well it doesn't! Something with the screen just doesn't want to work when it is very cold.
- My friend is telling me that he can't delete certain stuff of the phone. Can only be done on iTunes and then it needs to be synced. To me that sounds like a one way street. I need to sync the latest changes I have done on either device or laptop.
- No MMS
- No 3G YET, but my TMo Dash doesn't either.
- Not enough Software yet (which probably will change in a year or two). I have around $200 worth of software on my PDA and NONE is available for iPhone. This saves me carrying my laptop all over the place.
- Not available on all networks. It is a locked device and I dare you to unlock it
- You can't do that attitude.
- Why do they keep on pushing the iTunes this and iTunes that on you.
It is difficult to focus on all the good when you are used to your WM device having all the options available and then once you jump on the iPhone wagon these options are just not available.
My buddy, who took the iPhone plunge, ended up getting his old Siemens SX66 back (updated to WM6) and gave his $500 iPhone to his wife, who absolutelly loves it, she uses it mainly as a MP3 player (and sometimes as a phone).
I do love the High Res Screen, ease of use and overal looks of the iPhone. If the features and software become available it would definetly be a WM killer, but as of yet, the only people i see using an iPhone are the ones who don't really need a WM device. If I wouldn't depend on the stuff that is on my Smartphone, i'd probably have an iPhone too.
In my opinion it is a very good looking but a "Not Enough" or Simple device. Here, check it out:
http://www.tryphone.com/main.seam;j...Main&conversationPropagation=end&cid=442382#g
they are making it support activesync soon last i heard
bluetooth is not wifi activesync used to be able to sync using wifi as well as bluetooth but that was removed (so that harms wm devices too)
iphone can do mms using third party software
all iphones used outside of usa are unlocked and can use Edge or gprs networks of those countries not really with apples consent though
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I use my PDA for business purposes and couldn't care less for it in my personal world. That said, the iPhone can't touch the Windows Device in the business world.
- First there are issues with iTunes. I can't stand it and every time i tried installing it on my computer something stopped working. So unless they make it work with WMDC it won't work for me. I haven't seen (other than a virus) a software that is more invasive than iTunes!
- No WiFi Sync. I sync via Bluetooth all day long when I'm at the office.
- No or very limited customization/personalization!
- Usability! Don't take me wrong it is very user friendly in general especially if you never used a "Smart" phone/device, but try to dial a number while driving! On standard phones, you can blindly feel your way around the dial screen, not so on the iPhone. Well, if you have a PDA without numbers, you can always use voice dial and it works great for me. Not so on the iPhone. Or just try to imagine you have FAT FINGERS, then the screen doesn't work at all (not that you could dial a number on my Dash with fat fingers ) Have you ever tried to operate the iPhone in cold conditions. Well it doesn't! Something with the screen just doesn't want to work when it is very cold.
- My friend is telling me that he can't delete certain stuff of the phone. Can only be done on iTunes and then it needs to be synced. To me that sounds like a one way street. I need to sync the latest changes I have done on either device or laptop.
- No MMS
- No 3G YET, but my TMo Dash doesn't either.
- Not enough Software yet (which probably will change in a year or two). I have around $200 worth of software on my PDA and NONE is available for iPhone. This saves me carrying my laptop all over the place.
- Not available on all networks. It is a locked device and I dare you to unlock it
- You can't do that attitude.
- Why do they keep on pushing the iTunes this and iTunes that on you.
It is difficult to focus on all the good when you are used to your WM device having all the options available and then once you jump on the iPhone wagon these options are just not available.
My buddy, who took the iPhone plunge, ended up getting his old Siemens SX66 back (updated to WM6) and gave his $500 iPhone to his wife, who absolutelly loves it, she uses it mainly as a MP3 player (and sometimes as a phone).
I do love the High Res Screen, ease of use and overal looks of the iPhone. If the features and software become available it would definetly be a WM killer, but as of yet, the only people i see using an iPhone are the ones who don't really need a WM device. If I wouldn't depend on the stuff that is on my Smartphone, i'd probably have an iPhone too.
In my opinion it is a very good looking but a "Not Enough" or Simple device. Here, check it out:
http://www.tryphone.com/main.seam;j...Main&conversationPropagation=end&cid=442382#g
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lol @ this post. you must have just used a 5 min demo from the store. the iphone can do a lot of the stuff you're complaining about.
I thought they already added activesync to iPhone? If not.. I know for sure it's coming soon.. that was AMAZING to me they were doing that...
iTunes is the thing that will probably prevent me from ever getting an iPhone though... I HATE iTunes. HATE HATE HATE. Everything apple FORCES u to use iTunes and I think it's stupid.
will be interesting to see the features of this v2 phone... I would assume that is the one they would throw on 3G.
i use itunes even though i dont have an ipod or iphone
i like it
Cool. I'm pretty sure I'll get one. It will surely be much better than the pretty much messed-up and incapable Diamond.
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Have you used a Diamond yet? Or are you just guessing...
I think the Raphael will definately be better than the iPhone for most uses, and I also think the Diamond will be better with the ability to have a far greater number of programs...
Of course you can unlock the iPhone but you loose warranty i heard. But in europe the iPhone is provider locked as well. For example, in Austria the iPhone is sold unter T-mobile (germany as well, Deutsche Telekom), so if you want to unlock it to be able to use A1 or O2 or whatever else you have to void your warranty to be able to do that.
You just gotta jailbreak it if you want more. And that's marginally.
http://www.appletell.com/apple/comment/unlocked-iphones-to-be-sold-in-europe-the-moon/
there been rumors for awhile about them also being sold unlocked in europe
in which case apple will have to give warrenty
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Have you used a Diamond yet? Or are you just guessing...
I think the Raphael will definately be better than the iPhone for most uses, and I also think the Diamond will be better with the ability to have a far greater number of programs...
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I think he was being sarcastic
as far as unlocked iphones people are now buying these "hi-phones" which they're making claims are better than iphone to begin with... haven't seen a 3g version of it though
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Have you used a Diamond yet? Or are you just guessing...
I think the Raphael will definately be better than the iPhone for most uses, and I also think the Diamond will be better with the ability to have a far greater number of programs...
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It depends. 4GB storage is plain insufficient in a multimedia device. This device has been killed on the drawing board.
And if the GUI will be as slow as on the videos, it'll be really hard to use.
Of course, I don't disagree the Diamon has a lot more apps. It's just that I also have an iPAQ 210 in my poxket so I have something high-end to run my WinMo apps on- my phone doesn't necessarily need be a WinMo phone. This is why I have a Nokia N95 as my generic multimedia phone right now.
Yeah, the unlock iPhone rumor, is just that a rumor. Trust me, my friend came to visit me here in US with his Austrian iPhone and he ended up with one of my old Nokia phones while he was here as the iPhone was locked. He asked for unlock but Tmo will not budge on this one. Any other phone they will send you the SIM unlock codes wihtin 24 hours. Besides TMo Europe and TMo US are 2 complete separate units and for some reason they are not communicating that well with each other. That's unfortunate, they could have an awesome worldwide network.
I currently use a AT&T Tilt 2 (aka HTC Touch Pro 2/Rhodium) and I love most everything about it, especially the keyboard, but I am increasingly becoming aware of how limited it is compared to the newer phones on the market that have faster processors, much more RAM, and far superior cameras/camcorders. I'm not much of a techie, but I can understand flashing/tweaking my devices if the instructions are clear enough, so I've been trying to research the new phones on the market on my own to decide what my next device should be... Now, I'm even more confused than I was before!
I've always used Windows Mobile (Siemens SX56, then SX66, then Kaiser, now Rhodium), therefore I have no experience with Android or Windows 7. Android seems like the logical progression, as it's not locked down like W7 and iPhone, but I am hesitant about going over to the unknown and regretting it. My (very un-technical) wish list for a new device is:
New device MUST have a hard, slide-out, landscape keyboard (so, iPhones need not apply! LOL)
Decent camera with flash and HD video (preferred)
Sync well with Microsoft Outlook, as my entire life is in my Contacts, Calendar, Tasks, etc.
Must have GPS (but I believe most devices have GPS anyway) -- I currently use Bing for navigation, as it is free and has voice-guided directions
Must either have large memory capacity or expandable memory (card) capability
I'm not a gamer by any stretch, so I'm not looking for a toy, but to have a device that would actually play decent videos (from YouTube and the like) would definitely be a plus. Also, I find that I don't use my Rhodium much for music, as I'm able to store much more music on my 60GB MP3 player than I would on my device anyway.
I basically want a phone that will contain & manage my life, allow me to easily sync with my computer(s), act as my portable computer, and have a few cool bells/whistles to make my life easier. I've looked at what AT&T has on offer and the only device that I seem to like is the LG Quantum, but I am very hesitant since the prices on Ebay have some down pretty drastically on that one (you can pick one up for a little over $100 now, which can't be a good sign if Rhodiums are still selling for almost the same price) and the new W7 system just doesn't entice me yet. I want to control a lot on my phone, so I feel like I might be taking a step backwards if I went with that device. I'm not opposed to getting an unlocked phone from another carrier, but I want to be sure that I am still able to get the most out of whatever device I buy.
What devices out there would fit my criteria? What have those who also loved their Rhodiums switched to? Is there anything on the horizon for AT&T users that I should wait for?
Thanks for allowing me to pick your XDA brains! I've been here for several years and have always found our members helpful and knowledgeable, so I appreciate and respect your insights/opinions... Thank you!
Debbie
I want a great HTC keyboard device with Android but nothing has came out, hope next bunch of mobiles in Sept/Oct can bring some
Not true. Wife has the T-Mobile G2 which is an HTC phone. It is great.
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Not true. Wife has the T-Mobile G2 which is an HTC phone. It is great.
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Same here.... T-Mobile G2 is cool phone...
my wife has the HTC evo shift, which is great, also the mytouch 4g slide is an amazing phone.
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I'm not sure I like the white on the radar and the quality of the hd7's screen and its older cpu/gpu put me off, but the lumia only has 8gb of storage. I'm leaning towards the lumia 710 right now because I prefer its design, but I feel like I'll need more than 8gb of storage.
P.S. are there any services similar to google music (or a google music app for that matter) on windows phone? That would pretty much solve the storage issue. (It's what I use on my android phone.)
One advantage of the HD7 is that, being a first-gen phone, it's highly hackable. If you want to do custom ROMs or heavy tweaking of stock ROMs, the HD7 is your best bet. It also has the largest screen, which help with things like using the on-screen keyboard.
The Radar strikes me as the Trophy v2, a device I was never terribly impressed with to start. However, it does have the advantages of a second-gen device: the faster processor and the front-facing camera. The CPU quality is not yet an issue, really - some games might load a little faster, but all of them are designed to play very smoothly on first-gen phones - but it might be a bit more feature-proof. It's also worth considering that pretty much any phone can be "skinned" with coatings that make it more resistant to damage and change the color, but are cheap and add little weight or size.
The Lumia 710 is a very nice device, but I agree tha 8GB is just too little storage. Is it possible to tear it down and put in a bigger microSD card? Many phones, including the HD7, don't actually have a soldered-in storage chip, they just use an internal uSD that can be replaced if you know how.
Google Music could be done on the phone, but it would have to be via an app. A quick check of the marketplace turns up nothing useful. Hmm, maybe this should be fixed... You can also use Pandora (and any other site that supports HTML5 streaming) on the phone; just open the page in a browser, and the music stream will start playing (you can control the station via the browser windows, of course) and the play/pause/volume controls that are built into the phone will be usable from any app, no need to keep the website in the foreground.
However, WP7 natively supports Zune Pass. For $10/month (less if you buy a multi-month subscription), you get all-you-can-eat music streaming. It can only be played on Windows Phones, Zune software on PC, Zune devices, and Xbox 360 (the files are DRMed, and will also stop working if you stop paying) but the selection is very nice, and my HD7 makes a good portable music player. It's a great way to get around the issue of not being able to keep your whole music collection on the phone. It's also a good way to discover new music; there's a feature called "Smart DJ" that automatically creates playlists based on songs, albums, or artists.
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One advantage of the HD7 is that, being a first-gen phone, it's highly hackable. If you want to do custom ROMs or heavy tweaking of stock ROMs, the HD7 is your best bet. It also has the largest screen, which help with things like using the on-screen keyboard.
The Radar strikes me as the Trophy v2, a device I was never terribly impressed with to start. However, it does have the advantages of a second-gen device: the faster processor and the front-facing camera. The CPU quality is not yet an issue, really - some games might load a little faster, but all of them are designed to play very smoothly on first-gen phones - but it might be a bit more feature-proof. It's also worth considering that pretty much any phone can be "skinned" with coatings that make it more resistant to damage and change the color, but are cheap and add little weight or size.
The Lumia 710 is a very nice device, but I agree tha 8GB is just too little storage. Is it possible to tear it down and put in a bigger microSD card? Many phones, including the HD7, don't actually have a soldered-in storage chip, they just use an internal uSD that can be replaced if you know how.
Google Music could be done on the phone, but it would have to be via an app. A quick check of the marketplace turns up nothing useful. Hmm, maybe this should be fixed... You can also use Pandora (and any other site that supports HTML5 streaming) on the phone; just open the page in a browser, and the music stream will start playing (you can control the station via the browser windows, of course) and the play/pause/volume controls that are built into the phone will be usable from any app, no need to keep the website in the foreground.
However, WP7 natively supports Zune Pass. For $10/month (less if you buy a multi-month subscription), you get all-you-can-eat music streaming. It can only be played on Windows Phones, Zune software on PC, Zune devices, and Xbox 360 (the files are DRMed, and will also stop working if you stop paying) but the selection is very nice, and my HD7 makes a good portable music player. It's a great way to get around the issue of not being able to keep your whole music collection on the phone. It's also a good way to discover new music; there's a feature called "Smart DJ" that automatically creates playlists based on songs, albums, or artists.
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Zune pass is nice, but google music is appealing because it is free. There seem to be a couple of google music apps in development right now (mainly CloudMuzik. Its developer says he's submitting it to the market tonight. He's the guy who made metro browser, which I am a fan of.)
I should add that I owned a samsung focus back when I was on at&t. I switched to tmobile because I have a MUCH better plan now. If I could, I'd get a focus s, but being on tmobile obviously restricts that. My current phone is a nexus s which I plan on keeping as a toy. I'd like something more stable as a daily driver and I love windows phone. Google music is really the only service I'd miss. I don't have a single song on my nexus s's internal memory, it's all in the cloud and it hasn't failed me once.
One other question I have is about sideloading apps. If I'm not mistaken, you have to "jailbreak" your phone to do this. How difficult is this and how difficult is it to install updates/undo it?
A Google Music Player is coming to the marketplace very soon! It's in the software Dev section
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and i would reccommend the nokia since they will have the most vested interest in windows phone, so updates and like will be much better
I don't really like appying the term "jailbreak" to Dev-Unlock (which is all that you need for sideloading apps). Developer unlock is a built-in feature of the OS, and is officially available to anybody... you just normally have to pay some money to use it (students can get it free through DreamSpark). One advantage of it being an official feature is there's no risk of it bricking the phone or preventing updates. There are some apps that can mess up the phone if used incorrectly (mostly things like registry editors) and they require an additional level of unlock, which we call interop-unlock. It's still technically a feature of the OS, but it's a hidden one not supposed to be available to end users. Currently the HD7 is the only phone on your original list that can be interop-unlocked, and you'll probably have to flash a lower firmware version to it first, then upgrade again afterward.
Currently, none of the free options for dev-unlock work on any of the phones you mentioned, although with enough effort you can downgrade the HD7 to pre-NoDo and use the original ChevronWP7 Unlocker, then manage to carry that forward through the upgrade to Mango. It's not easy, though. The official method is to get an AppHub (marketplace developer) account from Microsoft. $99/year, or free if you're a student. Well worth it to me, but your opinion may vary.
For what it's worth, you could of course get the Samsung and just SIM-unlock it. It might even support the right 3G / HSPDA+ (what TMO calls "4G", basically twice as fast as their usual 3G) bands, although I'd be a little surprised; most AT&T phones don't support TMO's higher-speed networks. Samsung phones can currently be both dev- and interop-unlocked easily using the WindowBreak project (provided they don't have the latest firmware update, which one bought now might not). Additionally, the first-gen Samsung phones (but not second-gen, like the Focus S) can now use custom ROMs. That was just published today. No word yet on support for second-gen custom ROMs on either HTC or Samsung, though.
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I don't really like appying the term "jailbreak" to Dev-Unlock (which is all that you need for sideloading apps). Developer unlock is a built-in feature of the OS, and is officially available to anybody... you just normally have to pay some money to use it (students can get it free through DreamSpark). One advantage of it being an official feature is there's no risk of it bricking the phone or preventing updates. There are some apps that can mess up the phone if used incorrectly (mostly things like registry editors) and they require an additional level of unlock, which we call interop-unlock. It's still technically a feature of the OS, but it's a hidden one not supposed to be available to end users. Currently the HD7 is the only phone on your original list that can be interop-unlocked, and you'll probably have to flash a lower firmware version to it first, then upgrade again afterward.
Currently, none of the free options for dev-unlock work on any of the phones you mentioned, although with enough effort you can downgrade the HD7 to pre-NoDo and use the original ChevronWP7 Unlocker, then manage to carry that forward through the upgrade to Mango. It's not easy, though. The official method is to get an AppHub (marketplace developer) account from Microsoft. $99/year, or free if you're a student. Well worth it to me, but your opinion may vary.
For what it's worth, you could of course get the Samsung and just SIM-unlock it. It might even support the right 3G / HSPDA+ (what TMO calls "4G", basically twice as fast as their usual 3G) bands, although I'd be a little surprised; most AT&T phones don't support TMO's higher-speed networks. Samsung phones can currently be both dev- and interop-unlocked easily using the WindowBreak project (provided they don't have the latest firmware update, which one bought now might not). Additionally, the first-gen Samsung phones (but not second-gen, like the Focus S) can now use custom ROMs. That was just published today. No word yet on support for second-gen custom ROMs on either HTC or Samsung, though.
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No, none of the wp7 phones are pentaband/aws compatible sadly, else I wouldn't even be considering any of these phones, I'd just go straight for a lumia 900.
So is there no consumer-oriented unlock tool for the lumia? I wouldn't say I "need" it, but I like toying around with beta software.
@mmian, that was the app I was referring to (cloudmuzik) and I think the nokia is what I'm going to go for. The free nav software is enticing and I prefer their design over htc's (never really been a fan of them, had a g1 which was pure **** and a sensation which wasn't a bad design, but they clearly put all of their time/money into making it look nice rather than having a good, responsive touchscreen that doesn't let dust into it. /rant). Now that I know google music is coming, the storage isn't an issue.
Well, beta software can actually be distributed through the marketplace now (the dev has to specifically add your account to the beta, though). Almost everything WP7-related on XDA-Devs is either custom ROMs or XAP files (sideload-able application packages, though), and you need dev-unlock to install the latter (and a custom bootloader to install the former).
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Well, beta software can actually be distributed through the marketplace now (the dev has to specifically add your account to the beta, though). Almost everything WP7-related on XDA-Devs is either custom ROMs or XAP files (sideload-able application packages, though), and you need dev-unlock to install the latter (and a custom bootloader to install the former).
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Wow, I had no idea! That's actually a really cool system. Thank you guys for all the help btw.
Just a little info also... there is an article on wmpoweruser saying the lumina 710 is pentaband.
http://wmpoweruser.com/250-rogers-c...taband-and-works-on-wind-and-mobilicity-also/
I don't think any of the others are (non nokia's that is)
For £7.50 a month you don't only get unlimited streaming and localises downloads on Zune pass. You also can get 10 DRM-free songs each month. That works out to be 75p per song! Zune pass works out to be much cheaper for legal song downloads and streaming. DRM-free songs that you get each month can be saved on your PC and are yours for a lifetime even if you stop paying for the subscription.
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Just a little info also... there is an article on wmpoweruser saying the lumina 710 is pentaband.
http://wmpoweruser.com/250-rogers-c...taband-and-works-on-wind-and-mobilicity-also/
I don't think any of the others are (non nokia's that is)
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Yep, that's why I'm getting it (a mid/low end device) instead of an 800/900 which aren't pentaband.
@drupad2drupad: You're confusing the old and the new subscriptions, sadly.
The old Zune Pass subscription was $15/month ($12.50 if you bought a year at a time), all-you-can-eat downloads and streaming, and 10 song credits for DRM-free purchase each month.
The new subscription, as of some time late 2011, is $10/month (probably $7.50 if you buy 12 at a time, but I haven't checked) but you don't get any song purchase credits - just the (DRMed) streaming and downloads.
It's still a good service, but if you consider the cost of those 10 song purchases, the original plan was the better deal. However, they've discontinued that first plan; the only way you can have it now is if you're grandfathered in. I wish they'd kept both options available; I have the old plan but a new subscriber can't get it.
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@drupad2drupad: You're confusing the old and the new subscriptions, sadly.
The old Zune Pass subscription was $15/month ($12.50 if you bought a year at a time), all-you-can-eat downloads and streaming, and 10 song credits for DRM-free purchase each month.
The new subscription, as of some time late 2011, is $10/month (probably $7.50 if you buy 12 at a time, but I haven't checked) but you don't get any song purchase credits - just the (DRMed) streaming and downloads.
It's still a good service, but if you consider the cost of those 10 song purchases, the original plan was the better deal. However, they've discontinued that first plan; the only way you can have it now is if you're grandfathered in. I wish they'd kept both options available; I have the old plan but a new subscriber can't get it.
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Really?
Din't know that all! Read all the review around, wonder why I never bothered to check the dates on them. Luckily after my 14 day free trial, I've moved on to 1-month basis. I din't realize I was going to lose the downloaded songs as I just kept thinking the 10 I download are now DRM-free! I knew it can't be that simple. And it's not. Thanks for pointing that out.
That really means all these few months of songs I've been liking and getting into a groove of listening will go as soon as I stop the service! Bugger!
Yeah, I really liked that plan (and am grandfathered in) but new subscripers can't get it. Such a waste of opportunity on Microsoft's part, to not offer both options and let people choose which they wanted.
The download credits are handled slightly differently from how you describe; I receive 10 credits each month, and when I select a song to "buy" there is an option to pay with a download credit instead. They don't roll over month to month - use it or lose it - but Zune software shows how many credits you have left, and it's a clickable link that will show you the most-played songs in your collection that you didn't buy yet (i.e. that are DRMed downloads), so you can slowly convert your whole collection, in the order that you care most.
You can also use the credits to buy some songs that aren't available for streaming (why anybody would choose to block streaming is unclear to me, but some artists did...)
Anyhow, yeah, it sucks that they discontinued it, even though if you weren't diligent about using your song credits you ended up paying extra each month.
Hi all,
New to these threads so won't bore you.
I can purchase a few months old TF300 for US$250 in Hong Kong - want to allow my five year old daughter to use it - she already has iPad and iTouch but no Android device.
Anyway, price seems fine but wondering what the hell to do with it - my daughter likes games, movies and general stuff and uses her Apple products a great deal.
Once I get unit, I believe the OS is still stock, should I root and play around or just let her utilise stock version.
Also, and a big worry to me, I'm on a Mac OS ecosystem only and not sure if I can play with this item on a iMac/ Macbook as you chaps can on a PC.
Any help welcome as need to pick-up device on Thursday - will also be getting a new iTouch 64G at quite a good used price point - US$320 - so she can have best of both World's.
By the way, I'm not keen on the iPad basically due to lack of storage options even though I use 64G model.
she's freaking five year old already with an ipad and itouch ffs. freaking spoiled her already. make her go outside and exercise and run around or just watch tv.
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Hi all,
New to these threads so won't bore you.
I can purchase a few months old TF300 for US$250 in Hong Kong - want to allow my five year old daughter to use it - she already has iPad and iTouch but no Android device.
Anyway, price seems fine but wondering what the hell to do with it - my daughter likes games, movies and general stuff and uses her Apple products a great deal.
Once I get unit, I believe the OS is still stock, should I root and play around or just let her utilise stock version.
Also, and a big worry to me, I'm on a Mac OS ecosystem only and not sure if I can play with this item on a iMac/ Macbook as you chaps can on a PC.
Any help welcome as need to pick-up device on Thursday - will also be getting a new iTouch 64G at quite a good used price point - US$320 - so she can have best of both World's.
By the way, I'm not keen on the iPad basically due to lack of storage options even though I use 64G model.
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I use an older Macbook Air, it works fine.
When I zip something to pass along mac places extra files in each folder, icon files and .DS_Store file. They don't hurt anything but tend to confuse others. They are hidden in mac but visible in other operating systems. CleanArchiver allows exclusion of these files while zipping, if I remember to use it.
For someone five I believe I'd keep stock rom until she becomes familiar with the differences in Android and Apple. Later you can play and it won't be as confusing when you change roms and things are missing or operate differently. Now it you are buying for your daughter but for you to play with then go for broke.
Take your time and read some threads before making changes and you should be OK.
My work doesn't allow anyone to have their phone on them (besides breaks, as usual a couple idiots ruined it for everyone)
We are allowed to listen to music via ipods/mp3 players. I dislike ipods/touch, and prefer to have bluetooth and sd card slot (for my music/books). Right now I'm using an used galaxy player 3.6. It's very sluggish, so I was wondering any other devices that run android, about the same size as a phone, but has no cellular capabilities at all.
So far I haven't been able to find much, as easy as it would be to get a used or cheap phone, I'm worried about bringing one in. In case they have no clue that it isn't being used as a phone. And a tablet is just too big to carry around in a factory(and looks funny)
brex91 said:
My work doesn't allow anyone to have their phone on them (besides breaks, as usual a couple idiots ruined it for everyone)
We are allowed to listen to music via ipods/mp3 players. I dislike ipods/touch, and prefer to have bluetooth and sd card slot (for my music/books). Right now I'm using an used galaxy player 3.6. It's very sluggish, so I was wondering any other devices that run android, about the same size as a phone, but has no cellular capabilities at all.
So far I haven't been able to find much, as easy as it would be to get a used or cheap phone, I'm worried about bringing one in. In case they have no clue that it isn't being used as a phone. And a tablet is just too big to carry around in a factory(and looks funny)
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