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Poor hardware video decoding on Tab

I picked up the Tab yesterday after selling my Archos 70. To be honest the video processing onthe tab is poor. Speed wise iits great but the hardware decoder seems to not process the video correctly. This is apparent on 720p content, the image seems to be pixelated or downscaled very poorly, resulting in jagged image quality. It seems that lower resolution files such as 480p does not suffer from this problem. I have tried mp4 and mkv 720p files and the problem is still very noticable. After trying rockplayer xyplayer and a host of others i noticed that the image is far sharper under software decoding ( but too slow to be usable) , one hardware decoding is enabled the image becomes blocky.
To be honest the main reason for buying the tab was for the playback of 720p content on a good quality screen. ( archos 70 screen has poor contrast and viewing angles) , has anyone else noticed this poor hardware decoder issue? and is there any way around it? , I am running the latest firmware and feeling a bit dissapointed, my galaxy S has no such decoding issues.

Poor? It plays perfectly my test file, a 1080p trailer for the last Indiana Jones... And that beast reaches a bitrate of even 50mbps!
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I have noticed the same thing.
Whit 720p movies the Tab do some thing to the image. Pixelated/downscale weird frames sometimes. When just watch on the Tab screen i dont noticed its so much. But when i connect it to the hdmi dock and run the move on big screen its gets really noticeable.
And its like you say, on low res movies its looks good like youtube or other movies.
But whit 720p its looks weird some time whit lost frames or what you can call it.
Can't explain it whit my poor English.
The Tab play all my movies just fine. No lagg or so. Its just like the above described. Its seems it have problems to decode or handle the image the way it should look like.
And i use the stock Samsung player.
Think the Tab has same problem when you look at pictures in the gallery. Its downscale/mess up the image. Have read about that here on Xda
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It doesn't happened to me when I play with Samsung Video 720 & 1080p.
I don't trust RockPlayer.
FYI.

No issues here either, 1080P and 720P all played fine... best file format seems to be XviD..

AlexTheStampede said:
Poor? It plays perfectly my test file, a 1080p trailer for the last Indiana Jones... And that beast reaches a bitrate of even 50mbps!
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I agree. The Tab plays my ripped blu-ray movies beautifully. I keep resolution at 1080 too. No lag or picture quality issues.
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I use the the standard video player and it works fine, rockplayer lagged and put movies out of sync for me

Use stock player instead, never really trust rockplayer

cannot play any 720p mkv at all. Stock/Rock player. I can play 720p MP4, but audio does not work : (

no problems using 720p movies with standard video player

b0ricuaguerrero said:
no problems using 720p movies with standard video player
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what format?

Tried Zimly media player, or doubletwist?

dalamchops said:
cannot play any 720p mkv at all. Stock/Rock player. I can play 720p MP4, but audio does not work : (
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I think your problem is that there is DTS / Multi channel audio in your movies.
The Galaxy Tab can't play Movies whit 5.1 audio. It haves to be stereo sound or it won't play.
It's kind of sucks, because almost every 720p movie haves multi channel audio that SGT can't handle.
Little annoying that movies have to be converted only for the audio.
What i do is that i convert my movies whit Formatfactory.
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[Q] HD playback with no lag...?

Im trying to watch either .mp4 or .mkv but both lag in stock player and moboplayer. Anybody get this to work with zero lag?
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I get no lag using Vital Player.

Popsiclestand said:
I get no lag using Vital Player.
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Just tried that and it lagged a lot...
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What are the specs on the videos that you are trying to play?
Here is a vid of me using Vital Player on the transformer with a H.264 encoded MP4 and an MKV movie. No lag, no sync issues.
http://vimeo.com/23927515

If the movies you're trying to watch are encoded with High profile then playback will be laggy no matter what on the TF.

Popsiclestand said:
What are the specs on the videos that you are trying to play?
Here is a vid of me using Vital Player on the transformer with a H.264 encoded MP4 and an MKV movie. No lag, no sync issues.
http://vimeo.com/23927515
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Nice!
Okay I'm a new when it comes ti all these video formats.. all I know is that I get choppy playback
So this handles 1080 but with some tweaks I'm assuming..again, I'm a new at this
Were those movies you converted? Is so you mind writing up a little tutorial
Thanks

For the MKV, I downloaded it was already encoded so I am not sure of its specs, but the playback quality and resolution are excellent even on my desktop's 24" HD monitors.
For the MP4 played at the beginning of the video, that was shot in 1920x1080, brought into Premiere CS5 for editing and exported through Adobe Media Encoder using H.264 at 1280x720.
There are some threads with Handbrake encoding specs on the forums as well.
When using Vital player make sure the Decode Mode settings are set to automatic. It will automatically recognize there is no hardware acceleration (as I understand is normal with the Tegra-2). It will then compensate with "software acceleration". Also in the Video Mode settings I have it set to speed over quality as the performance is better without sacrificing much of the quality to my eye.
With these settings, Vital Player should play just about any video you might download off of a torrent site. I have yet to find a video that does not play well through it. I'm not sure if other users who say it does not work for them have checked the Vital Player settings, if my videos are just not up to the elusive "high profile" they are talking about, or if I just have a rare Transformer that just works, but as you can see in the video it does work for me.

Popsiclestand said:
For the MKV, I downloaded it was already encoded so I am not sure of its specs, but the playback quality and resolution are excellent even on my desktop's 24" HD monitors.
For the MP4 played at the beginning of the video, that was shot in 1920x1080, brought into Premiere CS5 for editing and exported through Adobe Media Encoder using H.264 at 1280x720.
There are some threads with Handbrake encoding specs on the forums as well.
When using Vital player make sure the Decode Mode settings are set to automatic. It will automatically recognize there is no hardware acceleration (as I understand is normal with the Tegra-2). It will then compensate with "software acceleration". Also in the Video Mode settings I have it set to speed over quality as the performance is better without sacrificing much of the quality to my eye.
With these settings, Vital Player should play just about any video you might download off of a torrent site. I have yet to find a video that does not play well through it. I'm not sure if other users who say it does not work for them have checked the Vital Player settings, if my videos are just not up to the elusive "high profile" they are talking about, or if I just have a rare Transformer that just works, but as you can see in the video it does work for me.
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So you had to encode the mkv or mp4 before playback? So it cant just play them straight up?
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I believe that nearly any video you get is going to need be encoded in some form at some time.
The MKV was more than likely encoded by someone else before I downloaded, but no further encoding was necessary on my end. The MP4 was shot on my own camera (Canon 7D recording at 1920x1080p) and needed to be edited. When you export directly from the timeline in Premiere, it must be encoded to even be usable. For sites like YouTube or Vimeo to even accept them there must be encoding. The H.264 encoding that I used is the highest setting for that type of video's purpose (HD web playback). It is different than what I would have exported for burning to Blu-Ray but is adequate for a screen the size and resolution of the Transformer's.
When I return home, I will try bringing in the raw, unedited video from the 7D (which is around 3GB for a 4 minute vid at that resolution btw) and see if Vital Player plays it back with no lag. I seriously doubt it as some average computers have a hard time playing that back without lag. Even Final Cut Pro can't import raw 7D video without a conversion (Adobe Premiere does not have this problem though). Why anyone would want to play a video of this size and resolution on a tablet is beyond me (3GB for 4mins is ridiculous in a playback form). I can't even imagine wanting to watch a full length movie in that form.
Both of these videos seriously choke in any player other than Vital Player (including Mobo, QQ, and MVideo). I couldn't play any video in my library with them or the stock player, but all of these files play just fine in Vital.

I'm playing 720p with no problem
converted with Handbreak. Settings below.
container: "mp4" everything else turned off
picture: "1280x720"
video: "h.264 (x264)"
target size as least as large as the source
advanced: reference frames = 4
b-frames = 0
I'm using moboplayer and downloaded some sort of codec pack (the player prompted me the first time and opened the app store). The default player also works.

AtomicAge said:
I'm playing 720p with no problem
converted with Handbreak. Settings below.
container: "mp4" everything else turned off
picture: "1280x720"
video: "h.264 (x264)"
target size as least as large as the source
advanced: reference frames = 4
b-frames = 0
I'm using moboplayer and downloaded some sort of codec pack (the player prompted me the first time and opened the app store). The default player also works.
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Maybe that's all I was missing for the other players (I didn't get prompted to download codecs). I'll stick with Vital Player though simply because it's already on my tablet and it works.

Popsiclestand said:
Maybe that's all I was missing for the other players (I didn't get prompted to download codecs). I'll stick with Vital Player though simply because it's already on my tablet and it works.
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Ive tried lots of different players and anything i download from BitTorrent (.mkv which I convert to MP4 for my Xbox) won't play worth a damn on my transformer. They are all720p. They all lag like crazy. Can the transformer not handle this?
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tsatrom said:
Ive tried lots of different players and anything i download from BitTorrent (.mkv which I convert to MP4 for my Xbox) won't play worth a damn on my transformer. They are all720p. They all lag like crazy. Can the transformer not handle this?
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90% of all HD videos you download the internet are ripped from blu-ray and likely encoded with high profile h264 because that's what looks best. the tegra 2 cannot handle these files at 720 or 1080p, and thus they need to be re-encoded to main profile, which as i understand it, means a much lower bitrate (and thus worse picture).

you can read more about it here
http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?t=98211 (bottom of page)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264/MPEG-4_AVC#Profiles

fakeyfakerson said:
you can read more about it here
http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?t=98211 (bottom of page)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264/MPEG-4_AVC#Profiles
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Thanks guys
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I got all excited because of this thread...but I just gave VitalPlayer a shot on a 720p high profile x264 and it still sucks. No artifacts but the framerate is really low it seems.
In case anyone is interested I did receive this message from ASUS:
"On this issue, we have tested some of the 1080p video is playing well. We have cooperation with google and will launch android 3.1 in June to resolve the 720p and 1080p video playback problems."
We'll see...

GetLaid said:
I got all excited because of this thread...but I just gave VitalPlayer a shot on a 720p high profile x264 and it still sucks. No artifacts but the framerate is really low it seems.
In case anyone is interested I did receive this message from ASUS:
"On this issue, we have tested some of the 1080p video is playing well. We have cooperation with google and will launch android 3.1 in June to resolve the 720p and 1080p video playback problems."
We'll see...
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i believe that is flash only, as in 720/1080 youtube streaming which is much lower quality than a high profile blu-ray rip. the problem is tegra 2, which is a year old, not supporting 720/1080p playback. it's the reason boxee box dropped tegra for an intel chip.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060825
this thread seems to do a pretty good job of explaining everything and going through how to get HD vids working

[Q] SGR 1080P video playback

Hey guys I am having problem in playing a 1080p videos in my sg-r
since it's a dual core phone it should be able to play 1080p videos
can anybody tell me how to play ?

Download mxviedo player from market
Via galaxy s2 lite ......

try dice player or bs player ....
dont forgot to install arm7 plugin...
they r the best option as they are hardware accelerated....
njoy

I have tried these options but plyback is sluggish or laggy
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NEO-xx said:
I have tried these options but plyback is sluggish or laggy
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From what I have tried dice player runs 1080p .mp4 files pretty fine.
But it seems you are trying to play very high bit rate 1080p .mkv/.mp4 files which I guess gets a bit too much for R / most other smart phones to play.
If the above is true then you'll have to convert those videos to a lower bit rate format.
Hope it helps.

But those videos were running on my friends sgs2 properly without Any third party apps
And I have read that sgr supports
Full he playback and now the native player is not able to do so.
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NEO-xx said:
But those videos were running on my friends sgs2 properly without Any third party apps
And I have read that sgr supports
Full he playback and now the native player is not able to do so.
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becoz our tegra supports 1080 p video playing capabilities.... (as we can play in optimus 2x but only 24 fps)
butt somehow samsung has blocked some of the capabilities of sgr

1080p playback?
So in short we can't play 1080p videos on our SG-R?

hansg01 said:
So in short we can't play 1080p videos on our SG-R?
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We can play them buddy . . . !
I have played some good quality 1080p MP4 videos on my device. Its just that it shouldn't be a very high bitrate. I have yet to try any mkv files though, will try & update here.
Tegra 2 naively supports recording of 1080p videos which had been disabled by Samsung due to some reasons currently not clear.
But they can't block a device which naively supports recording 1080p videos from playing Full HD videos as it depends on which video player you use.
The generic Samsung player doesn't play 1080p videos but Dice player does and its currently free.
Hope this helped.

hansg01 said:
So in short we can't play 1080p videos on our SG-R?
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yup....we cant (only low birate videoz can be playble)...
until some dev here do some thing about it....

Will it be able to handle 720p/1080p flash videos?

For websites that require flash, will it be able to play 720p or 1080p videos at full speed? On my iPad(which im debating on returning) there is a browser called Puffin where it will play a 720p flash video in browser but choppy, however there is a fullscreen button that grabs that flash video and plays it full screen at full speed. I was just wondering will the tf700 be able to handle flash video in 720p or even 1080p?

uwotm8 said:
For websites that require flash, will it be able to play 720p or 1080p videos at full speed? On my iPad(which im debating on returning) there is a browser called Puffin where it will play a 720p flash video in browser but choppy, however there is a fullscreen button that grabs that flash video and plays it full screen at full speed. I was just wondering will the tf700 be able to handle flash video in 720p or even 1080p?
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Puffin is available for android and it can handle 720p streaming natively too from what I've seen. Also, torrent for better quality.

Puffin isn't anygood for viewing those kind of movies/videos. Why don't you try using opera mobile. Which for me, by far the best browser to play flash movies from. Even high quality ones.

demandarin said:
Puffin isn't anygood for viewing those kind of movies/videos. Why don't you try using opera mobile. Which for me, by far the best browser to play flash movies from. Even high quality ones.
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Dat lag bro. Firefox works best for me.

I have already watched several 720p flash videos smoothly with Dolphin Browser. But no experience with 1080p(which imho will work as smoothly)

i can confirm that it can handle 1080p as im playing it right now using opera

60fps YouTube on Android?

Now that YouTube supports videos at 60fps, is there an app that supports viewing at that framerate? I'd love to be able to utilize this new feature on my phone.

YouTube released it yersterday. We have to wait

vaindil said:
Now that YouTube supports videos at 60fps, is there an app that supports viewing at that framerate? I'd love to be able to utilize this new feature on my phone.
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ask yourself one all important question.. does your device support playing vids at 60fps?

simms22 said:
ask yourself one all important question.. does your device support playing vids at 60fps?
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Whoa, whoa, whoa. Why are you trying to inject logic into a conversation on xda?! You should know better than that!
#stayparanoid

Pirateghost said:
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Why are you trying to inject logic into a conversation on xda?! You should know better than that!
#stayparanoid
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LMFAO

simms22 said:
ask yourself one all important question.. does your device support playing vids at 60fps?
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I believe the Nexus 5 does, doesn't it? I managed to manually download a 60fps video, and the VLC app confirms that the framerate is 60fps. I noticed a distinct difference when watching that video compared to the 30fps version. Am I crazy to have noticed a difference? Does the Nexus 5 not support 60fps playback?

vaindil said:
I believe the Nexus 5 does, doesn't it? I managed to manually download a 60fps video, and the VLC app confirms that the framerate is 60fps. I noticed a distinct difference when watching that video compared to the 30fps version. Am I crazy to have noticed a difference? Does the Nexus 5 not support 60fps playback?
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FATALITY

i also notice a difference between 30 and 60fps video. does the n5 not support it?

lucasgta95 said:
FATALITY
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Awfully helpful, thank you.
This thread seems to indicate that 60fps is possible, at least in the boot animation.

Unless the refresh rate is being locked to 30Hz, hardware wise there shouldn't be anything to stop it from displaying 60 frames of video in a second. However I don't think the app has been updated to support it yet.

well, everywhere i have read, it says nexus 5 can do 30fps while playing video. now i do know that we can get 60fps in gaming. is it a hardware limitation? that i cant answer..

simms22 said:
well, everywhere i have read, it says nexus 5 can do 30fps while playing video. now i do know that we can get 60fps in gaming. is it a hardware limitation? that i cant answer..
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I think even a 2011 device can run at 60fps
Try downloading a 60fps video, watch on native or mx player and see for yourself

For those still interested. Yes the Nexus 5 can play 60fps video.
As for watching 60fps YouTube, I have finally found an app for it.
Simply install Viral Popup from the Play Store.
Open the app and open the Settings from the menu dropdown in the top-right. Enable "Dash Player".
Now back out of Settings and find a 60fps video. Select the video and once it starts playing, pause the video, then click the [Gear] button and you'll see a list of qualities. Scroll down and you should see two 720p options, choose the second one. Rewind the video and hit play.
Enjoy 60fps YouTube on Android
NOTE: Not all 60fps videos will work in the app yet. It seems 1080p 60fps videos will not load at all.
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Does this still work? I can't find the option anywhere anymore in Viral from the play store, nor in Viral from the developers Google+ page...

japzone said:
For those still interested. Yes the Nexus 5 can play 60fps video.
As for watching 60fps YouTube, I have finally found an app for it.
Simply install Viral Popup from the Play Store.
Open the app and open the Settings from the menu dropdown in the top-right. Enable "Dash Player".
Now back out of Settings and find a 60fps video. Select the video and once it starts playing, pause the video, then click the [Gear] button and you'll see a list of qualities. Scroll down and you should see two 720p options, choose the second one. Rewind the video and hit play.
Enjoy 60fps YouTube on Android
NOTE: Not all 60fps videos will work in the app yet. It seems 1080p 60fps videos will not load at all.
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Yes the nexus can play 60 fps since all my videos from the note 3, note 4 and galaxy alpha play fine. YES i do record in 60 fps
Plus you should check this out, https://github.com/PkmX/lcamera