I picked up the Tab yesterday after selling my Archos 70. To be honest the video processing onthe tab is poor. Speed wise iits great but the hardware decoder seems to not process the video correctly. This is apparent on 720p content, the image seems to be pixelated or downscaled very poorly, resulting in jagged image quality. It seems that lower resolution files such as 480p does not suffer from this problem. I have tried mp4 and mkv 720p files and the problem is still very noticable. After trying rockplayer xyplayer and a host of others i noticed that the image is far sharper under software decoding ( but too slow to be usable) , one hardware decoding is enabled the image becomes blocky.
To be honest the main reason for buying the tab was for the playback of 720p content on a good quality screen. ( archos 70 screen has poor contrast and viewing angles) , has anyone else noticed this poor hardware decoder issue? and is there any way around it? , I am running the latest firmware and feeling a bit dissapointed, my galaxy S has no such decoding issues.
Poor? It plays perfectly my test file, a 1080p trailer for the last Indiana Jones... And that beast reaches a bitrate of even 50mbps!
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I have noticed the same thing.
Whit 720p movies the Tab do some thing to the image. Pixelated/downscale weird frames sometimes. When just watch on the Tab screen i dont noticed its so much. But when i connect it to the hdmi dock and run the move on big screen its gets really noticeable.
And its like you say, on low res movies its looks good like youtube or other movies.
But whit 720p its looks weird some time whit lost frames or what you can call it.
Can't explain it whit my poor English.
The Tab play all my movies just fine. No lagg or so. Its just like the above described. Its seems it have problems to decode or handle the image the way it should look like.
And i use the stock Samsung player.
Think the Tab has same problem when you look at pictures in the gallery. Its downscale/mess up the image. Have read about that here on Xda
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It doesn't happened to me when I play with Samsung Video 720 & 1080p.
I don't trust RockPlayer.
FYI.
No issues here either, 1080P and 720P all played fine... best file format seems to be XviD..
AlexTheStampede said:
Poor? It plays perfectly my test file, a 1080p trailer for the last Indiana Jones... And that beast reaches a bitrate of even 50mbps!
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I agree. The Tab plays my ripped blu-ray movies beautifully. I keep resolution at 1080 too. No lag or picture quality issues.
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I use the the standard video player and it works fine, rockplayer lagged and put movies out of sync for me
Use stock player instead, never really trust rockplayer
cannot play any 720p mkv at all. Stock/Rock player. I can play 720p MP4, but audio does not work : (
no problems using 720p movies with standard video player
b0ricuaguerrero said:
no problems using 720p movies with standard video player
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what format?
Tried Zimly media player, or doubletwist?
dalamchops said:
cannot play any 720p mkv at all. Stock/Rock player. I can play 720p MP4, but audio does not work : (
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I think your problem is that there is DTS / Multi channel audio in your movies.
The Galaxy Tab can't play Movies whit 5.1 audio. It haves to be stereo sound or it won't play.
It's kind of sucks, because almost every 720p movie haves multi channel audio that SGT can't handle.
Little annoying that movies have to be converted only for the audio.
What i do is that i convert my movies whit Formatfactory.
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Im trying to watch either .mp4 or .mkv but both lag in stock player and moboplayer. Anybody get this to work with zero lag?
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I get no lag using Vital Player.
Popsiclestand said:
I get no lag using Vital Player.
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Just tried that and it lagged a lot...
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What are the specs on the videos that you are trying to play?
Here is a vid of me using Vital Player on the transformer with a H.264 encoded MP4 and an MKV movie. No lag, no sync issues.
http://vimeo.com/23927515
If the movies you're trying to watch are encoded with High profile then playback will be laggy no matter what on the TF.
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What are the specs on the videos that you are trying to play?
Here is a vid of me using Vital Player on the transformer with a H.264 encoded MP4 and an MKV movie. No lag, no sync issues.
http://vimeo.com/23927515
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Nice!
Okay I'm a new when it comes ti all these video formats.. all I know is that I get choppy playback
So this handles 1080 but with some tweaks I'm assuming..again, I'm a new at this
Were those movies you converted? Is so you mind writing up a little tutorial
Thanks
For the MKV, I downloaded it was already encoded so I am not sure of its specs, but the playback quality and resolution are excellent even on my desktop's 24" HD monitors.
For the MP4 played at the beginning of the video, that was shot in 1920x1080, brought into Premiere CS5 for editing and exported through Adobe Media Encoder using H.264 at 1280x720.
There are some threads with Handbrake encoding specs on the forums as well.
When using Vital player make sure the Decode Mode settings are set to automatic. It will automatically recognize there is no hardware acceleration (as I understand is normal with the Tegra-2). It will then compensate with "software acceleration". Also in the Video Mode settings I have it set to speed over quality as the performance is better without sacrificing much of the quality to my eye.
With these settings, Vital Player should play just about any video you might download off of a torrent site. I have yet to find a video that does not play well through it. I'm not sure if other users who say it does not work for them have checked the Vital Player settings, if my videos are just not up to the elusive "high profile" they are talking about, or if I just have a rare Transformer that just works, but as you can see in the video it does work for me.
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For the MKV, I downloaded it was already encoded so I am not sure of its specs, but the playback quality and resolution are excellent even on my desktop's 24" HD monitors.
For the MP4 played at the beginning of the video, that was shot in 1920x1080, brought into Premiere CS5 for editing and exported through Adobe Media Encoder using H.264 at 1280x720.
There are some threads with Handbrake encoding specs on the forums as well.
When using Vital player make sure the Decode Mode settings are set to automatic. It will automatically recognize there is no hardware acceleration (as I understand is normal with the Tegra-2). It will then compensate with "software acceleration". Also in the Video Mode settings I have it set to speed over quality as the performance is better without sacrificing much of the quality to my eye.
With these settings, Vital Player should play just about any video you might download off of a torrent site. I have yet to find a video that does not play well through it. I'm not sure if other users who say it does not work for them have checked the Vital Player settings, if my videos are just not up to the elusive "high profile" they are talking about, or if I just have a rare Transformer that just works, but as you can see in the video it does work for me.
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So you had to encode the mkv or mp4 before playback? So it cant just play them straight up?
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I believe that nearly any video you get is going to need be encoded in some form at some time.
The MKV was more than likely encoded by someone else before I downloaded, but no further encoding was necessary on my end. The MP4 was shot on my own camera (Canon 7D recording at 1920x1080p) and needed to be edited. When you export directly from the timeline in Premiere, it must be encoded to even be usable. For sites like YouTube or Vimeo to even accept them there must be encoding. The H.264 encoding that I used is the highest setting for that type of video's purpose (HD web playback). It is different than what I would have exported for burning to Blu-Ray but is adequate for a screen the size and resolution of the Transformer's.
When I return home, I will try bringing in the raw, unedited video from the 7D (which is around 3GB for a 4 minute vid at that resolution btw) and see if Vital Player plays it back with no lag. I seriously doubt it as some average computers have a hard time playing that back without lag. Even Final Cut Pro can't import raw 7D video without a conversion (Adobe Premiere does not have this problem though). Why anyone would want to play a video of this size and resolution on a tablet is beyond me (3GB for 4mins is ridiculous in a playback form). I can't even imagine wanting to watch a full length movie in that form.
Both of these videos seriously choke in any player other than Vital Player (including Mobo, QQ, and MVideo). I couldn't play any video in my library with them or the stock player, but all of these files play just fine in Vital.
I'm playing 720p with no problem
converted with Handbreak. Settings below.
container: "mp4" everything else turned off
picture: "1280x720"
video: "h.264 (x264)"
target size as least as large as the source
advanced: reference frames = 4
b-frames = 0
I'm using moboplayer and downloaded some sort of codec pack (the player prompted me the first time and opened the app store). The default player also works.
AtomicAge said:
I'm playing 720p with no problem
converted with Handbreak. Settings below.
container: "mp4" everything else turned off
picture: "1280x720"
video: "h.264 (x264)"
target size as least as large as the source
advanced: reference frames = 4
b-frames = 0
I'm using moboplayer and downloaded some sort of codec pack (the player prompted me the first time and opened the app store). The default player also works.
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Maybe that's all I was missing for the other players (I didn't get prompted to download codecs). I'll stick with Vital Player though simply because it's already on my tablet and it works.
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Maybe that's all I was missing for the other players (I didn't get prompted to download codecs). I'll stick with Vital Player though simply because it's already on my tablet and it works.
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Ive tried lots of different players and anything i download from BitTorrent (.mkv which I convert to MP4 for my Xbox) won't play worth a damn on my transformer. They are all720p. They all lag like crazy. Can the transformer not handle this?
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tsatrom said:
Ive tried lots of different players and anything i download from BitTorrent (.mkv which I convert to MP4 for my Xbox) won't play worth a damn on my transformer. They are all720p. They all lag like crazy. Can the transformer not handle this?
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90% of all HD videos you download the internet are ripped from blu-ray and likely encoded with high profile h264 because that's what looks best. the tegra 2 cannot handle these files at 720 or 1080p, and thus they need to be re-encoded to main profile, which as i understand it, means a much lower bitrate (and thus worse picture).
you can read more about it here
http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?t=98211 (bottom of page)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264/MPEG-4_AVC#Profiles
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you can read more about it here
http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?t=98211 (bottom of page)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264/MPEG-4_AVC#Profiles
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Thanks guys
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I got all excited because of this thread...but I just gave VitalPlayer a shot on a 720p high profile x264 and it still sucks. No artifacts but the framerate is really low it seems.
In case anyone is interested I did receive this message from ASUS:
"On this issue, we have tested some of the 1080p video is playing well. We have cooperation with google and will launch android 3.1 in June to resolve the 720p and 1080p video playback problems."
We'll see...
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I got all excited because of this thread...but I just gave VitalPlayer a shot on a 720p high profile x264 and it still sucks. No artifacts but the framerate is really low it seems.
In case anyone is interested I did receive this message from ASUS:
"On this issue, we have tested some of the 1080p video is playing well. We have cooperation with google and will launch android 3.1 in June to resolve the 720p and 1080p video playback problems."
We'll see...
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i believe that is flash only, as in 720/1080 youtube streaming which is much lower quality than a high profile blu-ray rip. the problem is tegra 2, which is a year old, not supporting 720/1080p playback. it's the reason boxee box dropped tegra for an intel chip.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1060825
this thread seems to do a pretty good job of explaining everything and going through how to get HD vids working
can the tf 101 play back HD videos in 720p or 1080p with good performance? so far ive treid .mkv, .wmv and .mp4 108ßp files but all of them were way too slow or didnt play at all - is there something one has to do in orderto play HD movies, or is the tf101 too weak?
I've played 720p MKV's and MPEGs with reasonable performance on the stock ROM, but whenever i try to play anything 1080p the wheels start coming off. AFAIK b/c the transformer doesn't have a 1080p screen it won't be able to play 1080p videos (or if it can, it has to downsize them) and that's why it goes haywire whenever i try
In my own experience, I've found that using .avi format encoded with h246 codec (I use TVC) works surprisingly well. I've only converted 720p vids and they run damn smooth. Haven't tried 1080p. Don't need to really. More pixels and I think my eyes might bleed.
Hope that helps. Except the bleeding eyes part.
720p (either mkv, avi or mp4) works okay when using player capable of HW decoding, like MX or Dice Player. I'm not sure about 1080p, but i doubt it would work with acceptable performance.
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720p works okay when using player capable of HW decoding, like MX or Dice Player. I'm not sure about 1080p, but i doubt it would work with acceptable performance.
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Ah yes! Very true. Be sure to go to the Market and download "Mobiplayer" and all its codecs. That's your best video player for the tablet right there. That's what I use to play my files. TF definitely can play these resolutions, but it depends on the format, like on any device.
Rumor is that 1080p Main/Low profile works with HW decoding, but not the High profiles.
Mx video player or dice works well. Some mkvs play better on dice and vice versa
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Hey folks, I was trying to watch a video on my TF101 that I made with my Galaxy S II today, it's a 1920x1080 17Mbit/sec h264 video file. MX player won't play it in hardware. Any way to fix that?
Try Dice Player with the tegra plugin.
Freemake Video Convertor
Easiest converter I've used....take your 1080p file select 720p mkv or what ever other extension and press convert. Might look into the audio settings a bit more tho. (I haven't yet) but the audio comes out not as loud...
Then use MX video...with HW video and SW audio.
Also this might save you time if you try the converter...don't use the Android setting...didn't work for me...wasted 4 hours (slow laptop).
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I really didn't want to have to transcode the video.
Diceplayer didn't work, even with the plugin. It was a stuttery, frame dropping mess. At least in MX, it plays in super slow motion.
For me, BS Player seems to be the best for playing HD mkv files.
It's not an MKV file. It's h264 in an MP4 container recorded by my Galaxy S II phone.
Did you try playing it in S/W mode? I've had to use it for 1280x720 videos on my TF101 and Captivate with MX.
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It's not an MKV file. It's h264 in an MP4 container recorded by my Galaxy S II phone.
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Argh, sorry. I really suck at multitasking.
I was just transfering a mkv file over to my Transformer when I wrote that comment. lol
What I meant to say was that BS Player seems best for me to play HD movies (with big file size).
Anybody else having severe lag when playing back 1080p videos taken with the phone? I uploaded the videos onto my PC and they playback smoothly but on the phone it's a choppy mess. I've tried clearing cache and data using the app manager for the video player but it doesn't help.
Mine do that as well. Not sure why.
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There is something wrong with either the OS or the hardware. I've tried multiple video players from the market & I get the same results. :banghead:
720p movies play fine. Why are you watching 1080p movies on a screen that isn't even 1080p? Just a question so please no knee jerk reactions here.
i only have a couple 1080p videos that i converted to < 4gb and stayed that way. i put them on the internal sdcard. although ive only watched a couple minutes of them..they play fine for me on stock video player. the others converted to > 720p but not sure what exactly thats called..lol. i use audioconvertor to rip dts track out and make ac3 audio because my tv doesnt support dts automatically but only the stereo does.
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720p movies play fine. Why are you watching 1080p movies on a screen that isn't even 1080p? Just a question so please no knee jerk reactions here.
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I record them in 1080p so that I can take advantage of my 1080p TV. I use the mhl adapter but because the video player is laggy it lags on my TV also. My Gnex doesn't lag with 1080p vids so I would hope the S3 wouldn't as well.
Got a bunch of digital copies of movies from DVD/Blu-Ray's I've bought, unfortunately they look pixelated and or blocky on the tablet. Is this because the resolution of the tablet is 1280×800 and most of these movies are DVD quality which somewhere around 640x480? Is there any way to convert them to higher res?
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Got a bunch of digital copies of movies from DVD/Blu-Ray's I've bought, unfortunately they look pixelated and or blocky on the tablet. Is this because the resolution of the tablet is 1280×800 and most of these movies are DVD quality which somewhere around 640x480? Is there any way to convert them to higher res?
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Are you using the built-in video player or something else? I had this issue when I was using MX Player and fixed it by changing the decoding.
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Are you using the built-in video player or something else? I had this issue when I was using MX Player and fixed it by changing the decoding.
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Tried using MX Player and doesn't look any better. Maybe just the initial movie quality is bad.
My two cents.
MX Player's software decoder tend to pixelize movies a bit, even movies that are encoded in 720p or 1080p. The color gradient is terrible. I tried hardware mode and it seems to fix the pixelazation problem a bit. Although using the stock video player seem to yield better movie playback results.
To answer your other question, you cannot increase the resolution of a movie file. You have to go back to the original movie, and re-encode it at a higher res. In the case of the digital copies, you are pretty much stuck at the resolution the created the file with.
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